My problem with powerplay before was the need to dedicate time to keeping your rank up. Now that rank progress DOESN'T decrease each week, I might actually pledge to a power.
@@owa1985 I can understand where you're coming from, but I never did the powerplay stuff myself, so there's no 'again' for me. Plus, correct me if I'm wrong, but if you already did that grinding, wouldn't you still have previously purchased modules?
@Nerf_Craft That's semi true, but I don't have a habit of stocking up on modules I am not currently using. Although, I did go out of my way to get a size 8A Prismatic when I saw the reset memo, so I'm largely fine. It wasn't so bad previously because you could just coast for 3 weeks while waiting for the time gate to expire then truck enough Aisling merch for the simps in one go before the rank updates on Thursday. Now you spend so much time on the warp animation fucking around Orrere and Diso to get to like rank 5 after nonstop trucking for an hour and you see it takes rank 34 to get back to the damned modules.
And no, the points needed to climb each rank is not the same. It has a velocity so you need more and more points as you rank up. So rank 30 is not the same as going from 0 to 5 six times.
Can I just say this is a breath of fresh air? This is gonna make pledging actually meaningful and something that will actively segregate the galaxy which was always the way it was supposed to be. The only other thing I'd want to see is alliances between some of the power play powers. Either through player action or just as for story reasons.
Over the past few weeks I've been reacquainting myself with Elite after a long absence by watching lots of videos by several different creators. Looks like the myriad commenters I've seen bemoaning the lack of a reason to use stealth builds and silent running have got their wish. Only at the cost of possibly ruining it for the rest of us that just want the modules, and to be left in peace to play a video game. Assuming the changes fdev postponed this update for take the aggression down a tad, I might consider pledging; but if making a cargo run gets my Type-9 shot out of the sky, I will probably remain unpledged.
My understanding is that the PowerPlay NPC aggression is at least part of the reason why the Ascendancy update (which includes PP2.0) got delayed. I don't think FDev intended them to be as spicy as they turned out on the test server.
@@NoXion100 that's my hope as well. I would understand if they scanned me and I was carrying illegal goods, but I don't do that regularly and if I was, I'd run a stealth build to try and dodge them. That's a mechanic I can work around without it disrupting my normal gameplay.
I'm going to give it a try. If I don't like it, I'll just unpledge from powerplay. That process at least seems straightforward and somewhat commitment-free. Hopefully, it will be further refined and improved as time goes on. The video was amusing and funny though! Wish me luck.
Refined and improved? my boy, Powerplay 1.0 came out before engineering. it took them 10 years to release something even more half assed. Next refinement will be a shut down of the servers lmfaooo
@@ProgenitorFoundry They (Fdev) certainly have a history of ball-dropping. They are almost habitual ball-droppers at this point, but I've been playing since late 2015. As of today, my Steam profile sits at an embarrassing 3580 hours of playtime. I've stayed that long by focusing on the aspects of the game I enjoy, not getting too worked up about other aspects of the game loop I don't enjoy. Although I certainly understand your position, I'm hoping this recent effort by Fdev to be more responsive continues and changes for the better are made to the game. Sorry for the Wall-0-Text ;)
@@Сталкер-ь2х I've used heatsinks to evade scans when carrying suspect cargo effectively. It's more complex in combat as you're automatically revealed to anything you shoot at. Thargoids are definitely affected by heat level.
The enforcers attacking you without being able to defend yourself is absolutely atrocious. Why would you ever want to be blacklisted from 80% of the bubble at any time?
This is bullshit. I mean Grad-A bullshit. It almost sounds like someone sabotages the game, because their ego can't fathom that they fucked up. What is it with Space-Sims and braindead design choices, i don't get it?
Luckily the NPCs attacking too much is why it was delayed, so other than that last minute catch I'm still looking forward to some new stuff to do. Looking forward to being part of the rebel alliance... The odd choices in the PP galmap view such as by default having things turned off, and other wording things that are confusing like "reinforcement systems" just meaning those that are not yet fully fortified, is as expected in ED (sigh), and it always going to be hard to show a dozen different things in colours - especially for the colour blind (or just those not able to discern minute differences in shades of green lol). UI and plain language nerds are needed who are not so close to the devs that they cannot see the problematic wood for the trees.
On the bright side, I’m pretty sure the aggressive goons were exactly why this whole thing was delayed, so for all I know, they could get less aggressive last-minute.
Crime, what Crime? This is a Gankers charter. No crime at all to attack 89% of players in your 11% of the bubble. It's positively encouraged. They seem to want to change one of the most friendly games into GTA V.
Did I understand correctly that you'll always be attacked by npcs in systems controlled by other powers as long as you're pledged? Even if you're not actively engaging in powerplay activities? Not that it appears you can be 'not engaging in powerplay activities', since even just scanning other ships seems to count.
The aggressiveness has been toned down twice now, not sure when this footage was taken but hopefully it won’t be nearly this bad. Being essentially wanted in 90% of the galaxy sounds like it’ll suck and end up with a single power situation.
Yes. If you're pledged to a power, and go to a system owned by any other power than your own, then you will have NPCs that will actively and openly engage in combat with you. The moment you sign up for powerplay, you give any systems involved in powerlpay the greenlight to attack you whenever they want.
@@wil4me Well, that's going to be a deal breaker for a lot of people. Hell, it might be a deal breaker for me. Sometimes I just want to do some space trucking or mining and zone out. If I'm restricted to my power's systems to do that, that's going to be really annoying.
@@kuro_neko5863 at least it makes it seems like some stations like outpost might not have power police patroling. Also seems that station access wont be blocked either
i thought the idea with PP 2.0 was to get more people to engage with it, not make it even more unlikely anyway uses it. New system seems way too disruptive to normal play to be worth it.
775000 merits to get to level 100, and you got 2200 for those five weekly tasks? I hope the rewards scale up a bit as you rank up, because I doubt anyone will go along with 350+ weeks of doing this (especially with them becoming persona non grata in 80% of the bubble) to get there.
You get merits for activities as well. Some people have already documented the activities that give merits, and have provided estimated ranges on how many merits you get. For combat and SAR alone, the rough estimate is 1 merit per 15k credits from bounty hunting, and roughly 20ish per escape pod turned in.
They only need to make a couple small corrections. 1. Make zones of power control into class A and class B. Class B areas they will demand you leave then give you a countdown before attacking. Class A they attack you on site. 2. Make active and inactive rosters for your chosen powet. If you are active you can take missions and earn credite but are vulnerable to attack by other powers. Inactive you cannot earn merits or take missions but will not be attacked. You still get the bonuses earned. Also there will be a cool down to change your status.
At least now it feels slightly more dangerous to fly into enemy systems, and visible actions show notifications rather than waiting to the end of the week to see your status changing.
Why do diffrent empire factions attack each other?, why does a Federation commander get attacked by the alliance? Doesnt really make sense in the context of who these people are and what they actually stand for, you got 12 of the same option with a different reward line. Also why didnt they add some Powerplay factions to Colonia or finally add the Sirius Corporation as the 4th Superpower. It fells cheap and we already need a Powerplay 3.0 with it being -2 Days old. What a shame
Excellent details and entertaining. Having said that, if I had nothing to do with Power Play before, this solidifies me NOT having anything to do with Power Play 2.0.
i love how they spent months working on the powerplay revamp, delayed the mandelayed TWO times because of it, and they somehow manage to make it worse than the first system. I was actually mildly interested in playing powerplay, and doing stuff, but this video has made it abundantly clear i should steer away from all that. And it could be fixed by one simple thing : Don't have people attack you unless you're ACTIVELY doing something related to powerplay.
@@VerticalBlank yup. delayed two times and it's still gonna wind up dead on arrival. I'm thinking nobody interract with the new system at all. if very few people are pledging they'll realise they screwed up and might make it actually decent.
Speak for yourselves be aggression has been turned down a bit and I agree that it was a little high in some of these preview videos however as a combat pilot and a someone who runs the majority of my Squadron as a combat pilot I have to say these changes are amazing. I am now fully committed back to Elite dangerous after a long time of searching Elsewhere for action and fun. I don't think this is going to be dead on arrival but if you play the game as Euro Truck Simulator in space then I can see the lack of appeal. However this actually feels like it adds significant stakes and consequences and acts as a mild campaign of sorts. Something like helldivers and they're very live in game universe.
It's not correct that you will get attacked everywhere. Somehow they got it wrong, maybe it's still from the preview server where there was a bug with the agressiveness of NPCs but they fixed it.
Imagine going Lorne Malvo on an orbital station. Klaxons go off, red emergency lighting, shops close security windows, armed goons start pouring in as civilians flee (probably why it’d never happen, Euro ratings and all). Heck, set that off if you approach the wrong person as your power contact.
Yeah and the lifts get closed so you need to go into vents or something to get to your ship, but maybe only if you're scanned by a policeman in the station or something
You make some good points, that basically its Suicide to Participate in this because The Reward is not worth the Risk....THOUGH Free Rebuys are nice. What I think is that if you had the necessary Commanders with you to Flip Sectors, then that would payoff if you could just control the traffic in and out of Sectors, particularly one that had Precious Resources.
Thanks for the excellent explanations. I love subtle British humor and this video had me laughing a lot. I wonder are the opposing Powerplay NPCs any better or worse than opposing NPCs, (pirates, criminals etc) in regular gameplay? Running cargo the same type of ships attacking per my Elite combat ranking? If the same then all the ships we built for these activities should work just fine for Powerplay. As the fight will come to us now and then we also get combat points. The disadvantage is taking a break from Powerplay transporting passengers, becoming allied with local system factions, engineering ship modules and other activities. The worse maybe farming raw materials in a system 30 jumps away from the bubble with a ship designed for this. With my luck an opposing Powerplay NPC will be there. We'll see... Regards
Thank you, this is hilarious. Hard pass on PP 2.0 for me I'm afraid. I've no desire to become a performing seal jumping through hoops and getting heat from NPCs just for some modules that I've done perfectly well without for years.
Lol! Tbh I could use just wait a month and do one cutter run to earn a new weapon. With the new system I'm gonna have to do a bunch of nonsense bullshit? Gee thanks
@meta3584 nah cytoscramblers are useful. Pacifier frags are useful. Pack hounds are useful. I'm sure I'll find a use for those imperial hammers ....maybe. Dunno about the rest so maybe you're right that **most** are useless, but there was still enough there for me to use. And they added a new one too
It's so reading this. Folk hated power play exactly because it was so uninvolved and safe. Now they give you actual stuff to do and make it dangerous folk moan. Astounding. What did folk actually want?@@Byssbod
Omg thanks, that was exactly the info I was missing when I started the assignments and wondered "what is an acqusition system"? Btw, selling to black markets did not count for me (had no choice as I had a fine and gave it a shot), it seems it has to be the commodity market only.
Help, I can't give away my powerplay undermining goods? For some reason I am unable to give them away on starports in enemy stations within what looks like the influence area of the good's origin?
I love this so much. Mandelay this until Christmas so that it actually comes out in a state where input has been taken into consideration from the 'ptr'.
The only nice thing is that now you can obtain everything in the same pledge so you're not forced to jump from one to another and stock on modules. For everything else, I only see negatives. No allied factions, everyone else sees you as the enemy and additional grind is requested if you want to unlock other stuff - and more than half of them are semi or completely useless. At least they could have released the Type-8 for all shops and not just keep it for Pre-purchase options!
For a veteran commander such as myself who can comfortably ignore NPCs, the NPC enforcers attacking us in no-fire zones doesn't really deter me. However, I am an extremely rare case, and nearly everyone else is going to struggle to find a reason to suddenly make themselves hostile to 80% of the galaxy. Great job, FDev!
It's not even so much that they'd be dangerous. More that being consantly chased by them will get _really_ annoying _really_ fast. I do like that "Hostile" means something now, but there's a limit.
Since the factions are hostile to each other, it really feels like you should be required to dock at a stronghold for the faction you want to pledge to. It just makes sense, in order to pledge you should be at a station owned by that faction. That would prevent the weird situation where you get shot at the second you leave the slot.
I wouldn’t call it bad, i think it just needs some more work, i think other power stations attacking you isn’t as crazy as it seems, yeah its annoying but just hangout in your powers space, and if you leave go prepared. Also I think the merits should be adjusted so you get more in a week, but the tier system looks good to me. I like incremental buffs that it gives you. Honestly I quite like is. I think its definitely an improvement to old power-play. Just needs some community feedback.
I thought it was just me. I questioned if I had a stroke whilst reading those blocks of... text. The map has become diabolical and makes my high end gaming laptop feel like a Spectrum just opening it. o7 commanders.
I logged in last night for the ascendancy update. I didn’t even pledge to a power. Just looked through the menu, and was attacked on a barren rock outside of the bubble. Managed to get back to my ship and jump away with 10% hull, but I’m confused what exactly about my aimless wandering had offended the NPCs around me.
somehow the escapepods not counting on mine. i did exactly like in the vids, but I sell it at different system but still it's reinforcement system and same PP
Yeah the hostility the AI have is a huge turn off for me. I wanted to do 2.0 because of the possible ARX rewards. but now it just seems like a pain in the butt.
According to information I can find online, they start unlocking at rank 34. The order depending on who you're pledged to. So Aisling for example would almost certainly have prismatic shields unlock first, followed by the other modules at later ranks.
Funny enough, FDev assured that with PP 2.0 you don't need to hop between powers... you can stay pledged to one your entire ED career.... I've been doing that with Felicia Winters this whole time
IMHO, you could put into this video perspective almost any activity present in ED and start to hate it... I will definitely give Powerplay 2.0 a try to experience it and possibly like it a lot... or mayby not... :)
My procrastination has screwed me, I pledged to Aisling 101 weeks ago to get prismatic shields but just figured I'd grab them when I was in the mood to engineer them which never happened as I normally fly shieldless. Now I'm looking at this new system thinking I should have just deleivered the propaganda and bought 1 of each. I have absolutely no intention of playing powerplay so I guess I'll never have prismatic shields now, at least I already have the weapons I care about.
why are Empire factions attacking members of the Empire? makes no sense, I don't recall explorers form Star Trek attacking biologists or medical officers because they were different colors. or Tie fighter pilots attacking star destroyers because they are a different ship. wtf Frontier?
So, now that PP2 is there - I enjoy it. There is still room for improvement. But it’s so much better and more engaging than PP1. (Still there is a lot of guess work - I’m sure guides are already in the making) 😊
Thank you for this. DRIVES ME CRAZY that frontier devs can't just tell us what an Acquisition, or Reinforcement system is without all the absolutely useless writings. Why can't they use the same terminology throughout. This is the kinda crap that kills the player count. Its like I am on a mystery tour trying to figure out just what they want.
They are rivals though not enemies. The only open war is with the thargoids. Humanity is not in civil war all over the bubble. It makes sense to be jockeying for power, influence and resources but it doesn't make sense to have every pledged pilot a kill on sight target.
The aggression of the npcs definitely makes me not want to pledge since I mainly do exploration and exobiology, but i like the idea of the bonus pay from the exobio power. Will just have to be super careful when returning to the bubble from trips. Hopefully the exobio power will be close to the edge of the bubble so I won't have to fly through hostile systems
Orrrrrr, the Commanders pledged to Pranav Antal (the bio bonus dude) work together to expand their Galactic Power's sphere of influence so that some part of it - even if just a small part - touches uninhabited / unclaimed space. Then you have a safety corridor from the Black back into the Bubble in which you are passing through friendly space. Which is kinda the whole intent behind this update; give players reason to invest in their chosen Galactic Power, working cooperatively to maintain and expand their GP's domain to capitalize on the bonuses they provide.
8:29 I think are being a bit too Overly Critical for a new system and Sarcastic and totally missing the REAL Problem which is The Amount of Work is not worth the reward......180 Merits for doing all of THAT???
I didn't catch what you said, if you did say, about what happens to our fc's? Can we still park in hostile systems? What if I choose to just go un-pledged? How do I get modules as a lone mercenary? We merc's need love too!
You don't; it's a trade-off. Not pledging allows you to freely cross borders and dock at any station unmolested. But the price of this peace of mind is you aren't eligible for the perks that come with pledging to a Galactic Power. Risk vs. reward.
That would be fine if some superpowers would be extremely hostile to each others, smuggling stealth builds would finally be useful, but am I understanding it right, you are hostile to ALL 11 POWERS when you pledge loyalty to any one of them?
My problem with powerplay before was the need to dedicate time to keeping your rank up. Now that rank progress DOESN'T decrease each week, I might actually pledge to a power.
I... Dunno... Having to spacetruck like a madman to reunlock stuff I used to have leaves a terribad taste in my mouth.
@@owa1985 I can understand where you're coming from, but I never did the powerplay stuff myself, so there's no 'again' for me.
Plus, correct me if I'm wrong, but if you already did that grinding, wouldn't you still have previously purchased modules?
@Nerf_Craft That's semi true, but I don't have a habit of stocking up on modules I am not currently using. Although, I did go out of my way to get a size 8A Prismatic when I saw the reset memo, so I'm largely fine. It wasn't so bad previously because you could just coast for 3 weeks while waiting for the time gate to expire then truck enough Aisling merch for the simps in one go before the rank updates on Thursday. Now you spend so much time on the warp animation fucking around Orrere and Diso to get to like rank 5 after nonstop trucking for an hour and you see it takes rank 34 to get back to the damned modules.
And no, the points needed to climb each rank is not the same. It has a velocity so you need more and more points as you rank up. So rank 30 is not the same as going from 0 to 5 six times.
Can I just say this is a breath of fresh air? This is gonna make pledging actually meaningful and something that will actively segregate the galaxy which was always the way it was supposed to be. The only other thing I'd want to see is alliances between some of the power play powers. Either through player action or just as for story reasons.
This guide helped immeasurably and I now know exactly who I'll be pledging to.... no-one.
Have to agree, definitely not going to be an early adopter of this one.
I am not sure if Powerplay 2.0 is what I have hoped for. I am glad Exploration exists…
What will you say when ,,Prismatic shield need" will knock at your house door bell dude)))?
@@kyrofromgahool2009 "Thanks but I have Bi-Weaves"...
@@kyrofromgahool2009 Of the 69 ships in my fleet, only 5 of them have prismatic shields. They suck. Bi-weaves are the ones to get.
I’m already pledged to the only power I need.
It’s called The Pilot’s Federation.
i wonder why we are even allowed to pledge at all considering we're all part of pilot's federation
Thanks for not sugar-coating it.
Over the past few weeks I've been reacquainting myself with Elite after a long absence by watching lots of videos by several different creators.
Looks like the myriad commenters I've seen bemoaning the lack of a reason to use stealth builds and silent running have got their wish.
Only at the cost of possibly ruining it for the rest of us that just want the modules, and to be left in peace to play a video game.
Assuming the changes fdev postponed this update for take the aggression down a tad, I might consider pledging; but if making a cargo run gets my Type-9 shot out of the sky, I will probably remain unpledged.
My understanding is that the PowerPlay NPC aggression is at least part of the reason why the Ascendancy update (which includes PP2.0) got delayed. I don't think FDev intended them to be as spicy as they turned out on the test server.
@@NoXion100 that's my hope as well.
I would understand if they scanned me and I was carrying illegal goods, but I don't do that regularly and if I was, I'd run a stealth build to try and dodge them.
That's a mechanic I can work around without it disrupting my normal gameplay.
One does not simply walk into opposing power
no-fire zone is scuffed... really fdev?
It sounds like a bug. Especially with the patch still in beta, and delayed for more adjustments.
maybe this is the new feature ?
I'm going to give it a try. If I don't like it, I'll just unpledge from powerplay. That process at least seems straightforward and somewhat commitment-free. Hopefully, it will be further refined and improved as time goes on. The video was amusing and funny though! Wish me luck.
I live in the Colonia region. I've no inclination to participate in Power Play.
@@cetifoxproductions I wondered about that; I'm sure most folks out that way won't participate. Would be a long haul just to try it honestly.
Refined and improved? my boy, Powerplay 1.0 came out before engineering. it took them 10 years to release something even more half assed.
Next refinement will be a shut down of the servers lmfaooo
@@ProgenitorFoundry They (Fdev) certainly have a history of ball-dropping. They are almost habitual ball-droppers at this point, but I've been playing since late 2015. As of today, my Steam profile sits at an embarrassing 3580 hours of playtime. I've stayed that long by focusing on the aspects of the game I enjoy, not getting too worked up about other aspects of the game loop I don't enjoy. Although I certainly understand your position, I'm hoping this recent effort by Fdev to be more responsive continues and changes for the better are made to the game. Sorry for the Wall-0-Text ;)
Think I am going to pledge to the Thargoids.
PRAISE THE FAR GOD
Praise the Murder Flowers!
To the gulag you go@@CrimsonGamer99
To the gulag you all go
Why vote for the lesser evil lol
If i could get some sort of ID scrambler as a module reward, id be more open to this.
Heatsinks MIGHT work. We'll have to see.
@@stephenbaillie2955 doesnt ai ignore your heat signature?
@@Сталкер-ь2х I've used heatsinks to evade scans when carrying suspect cargo effectively. It's more complex in combat as you're automatically revealed to anything you shoot at. Thargoids are definitely affected by heat level.
Gonna be fun to actually make use of my DBX that sits at a cool 17% while not being made of paper mache.
So, Dont pleadge to anyone. Kit the mandalay out and have fun. Got it....
@@StevenHandDH exactly what I'm doing. Maybe by the time I got to the end of space and back again they'll have this fixed.
Doing the same!
The enforcers attacking you without being able to defend yourself is absolutely atrocious. Why would you ever want to be blacklisted from 80% of the bubble at any time?
This is bullshit. I mean Grad-A bullshit. It almost sounds like someone sabotages the game, because their ego can't fathom that they fucked up. What is it with Space-Sims and braindead design choices, i don't get it?
its all about these fancy care packages at x y and z ranks and 100+, dont know what they do but i want them:3
Because you a real G and don't give a fuq! Yayaeee!
To be fair the whole reason it is delayed is to address these issues before launch. I am optimistic it wont be like this
@@dwsnzhopeful? Sure. Optimistic? No way in hell, considering Fdev’s track record.
I think that is one of my favourite vids that you have ever done... ;)
I'm still smiling... :)
Luckily the NPCs attacking too much is why it was delayed, so other than that last minute catch I'm still looking forward to some new stuff to do. Looking forward to being part of the rebel alliance...
The odd choices in the PP galmap view such as by default having things turned off, and other wording things that are confusing like "reinforcement systems" just meaning those that are not yet fully fortified, is as expected in ED (sigh), and it always going to be hard to show a dozen different things in colours - especially for the colour blind (or just those not able to discern minute differences in shades of green lol).
UI and plain language nerds are needed who are not so close to the devs that they cannot see the problematic wood for the trees.
On the bright side, I’m pretty sure the aggressive goons were exactly why this whole thing was delayed, so for all I know, they could get less aggressive last-minute.
Thank you Galnet News for collecting the merits, so I don't have to" 😉
I like this, but crime needs an overhaul
Crime, what Crime? This is a Gankers charter. No crime at all to attack 89% of players in your 11% of the bubble. It's positively encouraged. They seem to want to change one of the most friendly games into GTA V.
@@williamvorkosigan5151 yeah.. give me back my massive bounties for murdering people, ganking isn't supposed to be "legal" that's no fun.
Did I understand correctly that you'll always be attacked by npcs in systems controlled by other powers as long as you're pledged? Even if you're not actively engaging in powerplay activities? Not that it appears you can be 'not engaging in powerplay activities', since even just scanning other ships seems to count.
The aggressiveness has been toned down twice now, not sure when this footage was taken but hopefully it won’t be nearly this bad. Being essentially wanted in 90% of the galaxy sounds like it’ll suck and end up with a single power situation.
Yes. If you're pledged to a power, and go to a system owned by any other power than your own, then you will have NPCs that will actively and openly engage in combat with you. The moment you sign up for powerplay, you give any systems involved in powerlpay the greenlight to attack you whenever they want.
@@wil4me Well, that's going to be a deal breaker for a lot of people. Hell, it might be a deal breaker for me. Sometimes I just want to do some space trucking or mining and zone out. If I'm restricted to my power's systems to do that, that's going to be really annoying.
@@kuro_neko5863 at least it makes it seems like some stations like outpost might not have power police patroling. Also seems that station access wont be blocked either
@@Bean41 The playerbase just going "forget it, lets just back one guy and dissappear" would be so funny
i thought the idea with PP 2.0 was to get more people to engage with it, not make it even more unlikely anyway uses it. New system seems way too disruptive to normal play to be worth it.
775000 merits to get to level 100, and you got 2200 for those five weekly tasks? I hope the rewards scale up a bit as you rank up, because I doubt anyone will go along with 350+ weeks of doing this (especially with them becoming persona non grata in 80% of the bubble) to get there.
You get merits for activities as well. Some people have already documented the activities that give merits, and have provided estimated ranges on how many merits you get.
For combat and SAR alone, the rough estimate is 1 merit per 15k credits from bounty hunting, and roughly 20ish per escape pod turned in.
lol i am dead... excellent comment
Earning merits is not limited to the weekly tasks
I am intrigued a bit. I will be referencing this thank you.
They only need to make a couple small corrections.
1. Make zones of power control into class A and class B. Class B areas they will demand you leave then give you a countdown before attacking. Class A they attack you on site.
2. Make active and inactive rosters for your chosen powet. If you are active you can take missions and earn credite but are vulnerable to attack by other powers. Inactive you cannot earn merits or take missions but will not be attacked. You still get the bonuses earned. Also there will be a cool down to change your status.
At least now it feels slightly more dangerous to fly into enemy systems, and visible actions show notifications rather than waiting to the end of the week to see your status changing.
Why do diffrent empire factions attack each other?, why does a Federation commander get attacked by the alliance? Doesnt really make sense in the context of who these people are and what they actually stand for, you got 12 of the same option with a different reward line.
Also why didnt they add some Powerplay factions to Colonia or finally add the Sirius Corporation as the 4th Superpower. It fells cheap and we already need a Powerplay 3.0 with it being -2 Days old. What a shame
Power Grind 2.0
Super helpful!
Thank you.
Excellent details and entertaining. Having said that, if I had nothing to do with Power Play before, this solidifies me NOT having anything to do with Power Play 2.0.
I absolutely love how *happy* you both are in your delivery in this video - it's really made my day =D Thanks so much, and it's a sub from me =]]
great video!! Looking forward to bumbling through all the new content
idunno this looks like fun, i am stoked
i love how they spent months working on the powerplay revamp, delayed the mandelayed TWO times because of it, and they somehow manage to make it worse than the first system.
I was actually mildly interested in playing powerplay, and doing stuff, but this video has made it abundantly clear i should steer away from all that.
And it could be fixed by one simple thing : Don't have people attack you unless you're ACTIVELY doing something related to powerplay.
THIS. Why would I want to blackball myself in 80% of the bubble for an activity I barely touched before the revamp?
@@FreemanicParacusia Completely agree, it gives small benefits for massive aggro. Nobody sane would sign up.
@@VerticalBlank yup. delayed two times and it's still gonna wind up dead on arrival. I'm thinking nobody interract with the new system at all. if very few people are pledging they'll realise they screwed up and might make it actually decent.
Speak for yourselves be aggression has been turned down a bit and I agree that it was a little high in some of these preview videos however as a combat pilot and a someone who runs the majority of my Squadron as a combat pilot I have to say these changes are amazing. I am now fully committed back to Elite dangerous after a long time of searching Elsewhere for action and fun. I don't think this is going to be dead on arrival but if you play the game as Euro Truck Simulator in space then I can see the lack of appeal. However this actually feels like it adds significant stakes and consequences and acts as a mild campaign of sorts. Something like helldivers and they're very live in game universe.
It's not correct that you will get attacked everywhere. Somehow they got it wrong, maybe it's still from the preview server where there was a bug with the agressiveness of NPCs but they fixed it.
There should be on foot pew pew when you enter an opposite superpower station, pew pew and run back to ship
Imagine going Lorne Malvo on an orbital station. Klaxons go off, red emergency lighting, shops close security windows, armed goons start pouring in as civilians flee (probably why it’d never happen, Euro ratings and all).
Heck, set that off if you approach the wrong person as your power contact.
Yeah and the lifts get closed so you need to go into vents or something to get to your ship, but maybe only if you're scanned by a policeman in the station or something
I want to be a level 100 arch mage!
Very helpful and delivered with great wit. Thanks
Genuinely both funny and informative. Great work!
You make some good points, that basically its Suicide to Participate in this because The Reward is not worth the Risk....THOUGH Free Rebuys are nice. What I think is that if you had the necessary Commanders with you to Flip Sectors, then that would payoff if you could just control the traffic in and out of Sectors, particularly one that had Precious Resources.
Thanks for the excellent explanations. I love subtle British humor and this video had me laughing a lot.
I wonder are the opposing Powerplay NPCs any better or worse than opposing NPCs, (pirates, criminals etc) in regular gameplay? Running cargo the same type of ships attacking per my Elite combat ranking? If the same then all the ships we built for these activities should work just fine for Powerplay. As the fight will come to us now and then we also get combat points.
The disadvantage is taking a break from Powerplay transporting passengers, becoming allied with local system factions, engineering ship modules and other activities. The worse maybe farming raw materials in a system 30 jumps away from the bubble with a ship designed for this. With my luck an opposing Powerplay NPC will be there. We'll see...
Regards
Some napkin math is telling me it takes ~365 days to get to max rank by just doing the dailies. Dunno how I feel about that...
I can't get caught by the PP Popo again
Just found there is a 2nd power play map mode "powerplay activity filter", which has "acquiring" and "reinforcing" filters, among others
been lookin forward to this since it was announced and been holdin off on playin till it releases
what the conceptual difference between Powerplay 1.0 and 2.0? is this the same thing in a different wrapper?
'LUCKY' I Ground For "Prismatic Shields" And Then "Pack Hound Missles" Years Ago. 😵💫
Welcome to the Ganking update
Flickering at 0:53 still not sorted then 😢 devastating
It'll certainly suck if that 10 month bug is not yet squashed. I will have to keep relying on Morbad's forum workaround
@@dwsnz thank yo for that comment, will try it. i hate this flickering so much in VR
Thank you, this is hilarious. Hard pass on PP 2.0 for me I'm afraid. I've no desire to become a performing seal jumping through hoops and getting heat from NPCs just for some modules that I've done perfectly well without for years.
The old system sucked because it was useless. This one now just shuts you out of larger portions of the bubble
Lol!
Tbh I could use just wait a month and do one cutter run to earn a new weapon. With the new system I'm gonna have to do a bunch of nonsense bullshit? Gee thanks
@@Byssbod most of those weapons werent that useful. Only really the prismatic shields were
Just don't pledge?
@meta3584 nah cytoscramblers are useful. Pacifier frags are useful. Pack hounds are useful. I'm sure I'll find a use for those imperial hammers ....maybe.
Dunno about the rest so maybe you're right that **most** are useless, but there was still enough there for me to use. And they added a new one too
It's so reading this. Folk hated power play exactly because it was so uninvolved and safe. Now they give you actual stuff to do and make it dangerous folk moan. Astounding. What did folk actually want?@@Byssbod
Omg thanks, that was exactly the info I was missing when I started the assignments and wondered "what is an acqusition system"? Btw, selling to black markets did not count for me (had no choice as I had a fine and gave it a shot), it seems it has to be the commodity market only.
months and months of work for this? is this a joke right?
Looking good so far, thank you!
Help, I can't give away my powerplay undermining goods? For some reason I am unable to give them away on starports in enemy stations within what looks like the influence area of the good's origin?
I love this so much. Mandelay this until Christmas so that it actually comes out in a state where input has been taken into consideration from the 'ptr'.
The only nice thing is that now you can obtain everything in the same pledge so you're not forced to jump from one to another and stock on modules. For everything else, I only see negatives. No allied factions, everyone else sees you as the enemy and additional grind is requested if you want to unlock other stuff - and more than half of them are semi or completely useless. At least they could have released the Type-8 for all shops and not just keep it for Pre-purchase options!
Wow, this channel is great. I love the dry sarcasm humor. Subscribed.
I guess ill never be acquiring prismatic shields
It's truly a crime that we still can't pledge our undying loyalty to Tharg the Merciless
oh, i can see the PowerPlayPolice being SUPER FUN during Community Goals 🙄
PP PoPo!
Or you want to repair / restock / refuel before the last titan explosion and the station is hostile...
For a veteran commander such as myself who can comfortably ignore NPCs, the NPC enforcers attacking us in no-fire zones doesn't really deter me. However, I am an extremely rare case, and nearly everyone else is going to struggle to find a reason to suddenly make themselves hostile to 80% of the galaxy. Great job, FDev!
It's not even so much that they'd be dangerous. More that being consantly chased by them will get _really_ annoying _really_ fast. I do like that "Hostile" means something now, but there's a limit.
maybe a new video ignoring npcs an killing ppl on there own stronghold carrier?
@@ImAkiyamasome folk find it annoying. I say don't do power play and let us who find that stuff fun have it setup to be dangerous.
@@kudosbudo weird flex, the both of you
Since the factions are hostile to each other, it really feels like you should be required to dock at a stronghold for the faction you want to pledge to. It just makes sense, in order to pledge you should be at a station owned by that faction. That would prevent the weird situation where you get shot at the second you leave the slot.
I love your videos, they are awesome and genius in the same time! o7 💚✌
"Parish Council" sent me.
They should really make it so that a power won't attack it's allies like Empire factions attacking each other
Great video. So, they had a chance to finally fix power play. But, decided not to.
I wouldn’t call it bad, i think it just needs some more work, i think other power stations attacking you isn’t as crazy as it seems, yeah its annoying but just hangout in your powers space, and if you leave go prepared. Also I think the merits should be adjusted so you get more in a week, but the tier system looks good to me. I like incremental buffs that it gives you. Honestly I quite like is. I think its definitely an improvement to old power-play. Just needs some community feedback.
Just needs community feedback 😂 you must by new to ED or you're shilling. ED haven't listened to the community since the beginning 🙄
I really hope this will be a good change.
I thought it was just me. I questioned if I had a stroke whilst reading those blocks of... text. The map has become diabolical and makes my high end gaming laptop feel like a Spectrum just opening it. o7 commanders.
I logged in last night for the ascendancy update. I didn’t even pledge to a power. Just looked through the menu, and was attacked on a barren rock outside of the bubble. Managed to get back to my ship and jump away with 10% hull, but I’m confused what exactly about my aimless wandering had offended the NPCs around me.
From generally punitive to actively punishing... did they base it on the CnP revision?
They just said on stream the aggro was turned down by far
somehow the escapepods not counting on mine. i did exactly like in the vids, but I sell it at different system but still it's reinforcement system and same PP
Nvm i just found out that it must be in the power contact not in search and rescue contact. Damn why it's becoming confusing.
@@tetiitet I believe the description of the task tells you to hand it in at a power contact.
@@cmdrandreyuenari4150 yea
You’d think all Imperial and Fedeeal factions would be friendly with their own at least. What, are they both embroiled in civil wars?
Yeah the hostility the AI have is a huge turn off for me. I wanted to do 2.0 because of the possible ARX rewards. but now it just seems like a pain in the butt.
Why can I not "like" this piece of creative genius more than once???
what rank do you need to achieve to buy powerplay modules?
According to information I can find online, they start unlocking at rank 34. The order depending on who you're pledged to. So Aisling for example would almost certainly have prismatic shields unlock first, followed by the other modules at later ranks.
@@ImAkiyama sounds like another horrible grind...
The rebuy perks should be available in every part of the galaxy something like “power insurance for rebuy” this would make more sense.
Funny enough, FDev assured that with PP 2.0 you don't need to hop between powers... you can stay pledged to one your entire ED career....
I've been doing that with Felicia Winters this whole time
Hold on. Elite Beat Danger is rated T for Teen. Does your mom know you're playing this?!
I'll give it a try but I am going to make another account for this. My explorer pilot can't have this kind of smoke.
This was actually really helpful
Kind of a negative title, don't you think? Looks like it's good, not bad!
I think 'a really bad intro' is a self-deprecating take on their video, not powerplay.
IMHO, you could put into this video perspective almost any activity present in ED and start to hate it... I will definitely give Powerplay 2.0 a try to experience it and possibly like it a lot... or mayby not... :)
My procrastination has screwed me, I pledged to Aisling 101 weeks ago to get prismatic shields but just figured I'd grab them when I was in the mood to engineer them which never happened as I normally fly shieldless. Now I'm looking at this new system thinking I should have just deleivered the propaganda and bought 1 of each. I have absolutely no intention of playing powerplay so I guess I'll never have prismatic shields now, at least I already have the weapons I care about.
why are Empire factions attacking members of the Empire? makes no sense, I don't recall explorers form Star Trek attacking biologists or medical officers because they were different colors.
or Tie fighter pilots attacking star destroyers because they are a different ship. wtf Frontier?
They just said on stream the aggro was turned down by far
So, now that PP2 is there - I enjoy it. There is still room for improvement. But it’s so much better and more engaging than PP1. (Still there is a lot of guess work - I’m sure guides are already in the making) 😊
Thank you for this. DRIVES ME CRAZY that frontier devs can't just tell us what an Acquisition, or Reinforcement system is without all the absolutely useless writings. Why can't they use the same terminology throughout. This is the kinda crap that kills the player count. Its like I am on a mystery tour trying to figure out just what they want.
Well, we'll see how it goes.
I pledge to no one, never have, never will.
Other than engineers i see no problem in having issues with enemy powers trying to kill you when you're in their territory
They are rivals though not enemies. The only open war is with the thargoids. Humanity is not in civil war all over the bubble. It makes sense to be jockeying for power, influence and resources but it doesn't make sense to have every pledged pilot a kill on sight target.
The aggression of the npcs definitely makes me not want to pledge since I mainly do exploration and exobiology, but i like the idea of the bonus pay from the exobio power. Will just have to be super careful when returning to the bubble from trips. Hopefully the exobio power will be close to the edge of the bubble so I won't have to fly through hostile systems
Orrrrrr, the Commanders pledged to Pranav Antal (the bio bonus dude) work together to expand their Galactic Power's sphere of influence so that some part of it - even if just a small part - touches uninhabited / unclaimed space. Then you have a safety corridor from the Black back into the Bubble in which you are passing through friendly space.
Which is kinda the whole intent behind this update; give players reason to invest in their chosen Galactic Power, working cooperatively to maintain and expand their GP's domain to capitalize on the bonuses they provide.
That's what I said, about being close to the edge of the bubble
Is it solo play to or open only
8:29 I think are being a bit too Overly Critical for a new system and Sarcastic and totally missing the REAL Problem which is The Amount of Work is not worth the reward......180 Merits for doing all of THAT???
I didn't catch what you said, if you did say, about what happens to our fc's? Can we still park in hostile systems? What if I choose to just go un-pledged? How do I get modules as a lone mercenary? We merc's need love too!
You don't; it's a trade-off. Not pledging allows you to freely cross borders and dock at any station unmolested. But the price of this peace of mind is you aren't eligible for the perks that come with pledging to a Galactic Power. Risk vs. reward.
Well at least we will be getting option for players to colonize systems outside of bubble some day in a clearly not immediate future
Oh dear Lord. I hate it already.
@@FakeJeep That video is outdated by the way. They were a bit too early.
Happy I got all the modules i need from powerplay. I will try it but it's not good enough to close most of the bubble for me
That would be fine if some superpowers would be extremely hostile to each others, smuggling stealth builds would finally be useful, but am I understanding it right, you are hostile to ALL 11 POWERS when you pledge loyalty to any one of them?
Imagine a game developer making a confusingly obtuse feature that players actively avoid...... 😰
As good a review as can be made. Beautiful.😅