Haven't finished the video but personally I think sulfur quarry really isn't that big a deal on vanilla settings because the scarcity of diesel and the amount of sulfur you get per diesel isn't much because in the time it takes for 1 diesel to roll through quarry you could go to the snow with a Jacky and get 5x the amount of sulfur easily. In terms of progression I think it's just because the game is so old that metas have been established to streamline progression and for console specifically I think a big problem is the limited player count on servers being maxed at 100 whereas pc is 1k+ population in a single server there's alot more competition and strain on the resources around the map that naturally makes progression a little harder. In my experience if you're early enough in wipe you can get on farm a few animals for leather armor and get a crossbow then immediately head to cargo or oil rig etc to push for tier 3 loot within the first hour or two of a fresh wipe. I've long said that while pc has alot more cheaters and those huge zergs console is a whole other beast because in my opinion the average console player is alot more skilled than the average pc player.
Progression is not ruined or too fast if you have a life and a squad that shares that aspect of having a life because me and my guys we try to get on it we can so we progress slow because we are busy with daily life.
I think they need to make what they have in the tec tree they need to expand it to teir 4 - 5 so things like rockets you have to go up farther before raiding
I play on a server that has tech tree disabled, I like the grind personally. A tax on T2 and T3 could help slow progression but even with no tech tree on a 2x server I'm able to run barrels and Crates and have plenty of mats for T3 and at least a SAR within 2 hours. Within 3 hours I'm running cargo and getting AK. If slower progression is what you want then you would have to play a vanilla with no tech tree. Sulfur quarry on anything but vanilla servers is really not needed imo. On 2x and 3x etc... diesel is simply too easy to aquire. Love the videos jade.
I think a great way to fix some of these issues would be to make availability of different tiers of weapons and tools and armor be progressed over time by way of weekly events. Like no jackies or chainsaws till the second/third week of monthly wipe. Groups still have the edge BUT can't completely outpace anyone that doesn't pull an 18 hour shift on wipe day. Make it so rockets and c4 aren't available till week two or three. Bring back the prim time. Would help with offlines I think as well. With this type of progression, groups wouldn't be unbeatable in the first three days and with better things like jackies not available till the second week, someone could start wipe a few days late and still stand a chance. Servers wouldn't die in 72 hours.
@@JadeMonkey would make for some crazy times. A special event each week that unlocks things for people. Have to complete certain tasks, etc. Something like needing to complete all puzzles to get rockets. People barely run monuments anymore. I've been in full on clans of people that don't know how to run Launch lol
Progression is fine. Aks are more frequent because people are actually starting to bring them out to PVP bro when people had Aks when this game first game out, everyone was gear feared. I still run into a lot of that.
Yeah man, I wanna make sure to make the game take even more time - my daughter was getting too much time spent with her. Add that tax and lower drop rates and increase crafting costs! Make vanilla 0.5x
Joins no offline server to only be offlined . Joins server with active admin gets admin abused.. admin destroyed our base. Only reliable server I've thought of is urs jade
I agree with the tech tree and think it should have tax (u should disable it on ur server) and be able to access all tech trees in a T3 but I completely disagree with the sulfer quarry because the reason what you just said teas already make it so you get 600 sulfer from one node so they already good and if a big clan takes over the quarry you can always blow a hole in it or ladder over and steal the loot from it but i do see what you mean by the sulfer quarry being op
Its seems too fast to you because of your played hours and the amount of time you spend on a wipe. There are thousands of players that don't even touch one ak in months
@denzelmartin634 sweater players think everyone also spend 8 hours a day playing rust. When in reality there is ppl playing 8 hours in a full wipe 🤣 If u want aks as a solo try doing some card puzzles. U can find tier 3 weapons on the elite loot boxes 😬🤟
To be fair its us all collectively that optimize the fun out of games. People are too worried about end game and raiding sometimes. If you just play thr game to have fun than progression isnt crazy
Go Play Minecraft then, nobody wants their 2x2 getting foundation wiped from C4s on wipeday, its annoying when u get gun downed by AK full metal within 2 hrs of wipe
@@darth9302 he said a whole bunch of nonsense, we don’t “collectively” optimize the fun out of games, that’d not at all how it works. Enjoyment from a game is subjective but it can most certainly become broken and UNenjoyable from exploiters/cheaters or systems imbalances and glitches.
@@THE_MOONMAN endgame and raiding absolutely matters if you spent $60 dollars on a game that you struggle to advance in due to system imbalances, otherwise you’re just wasting your money
I'm my opinion if your talking only moded severs but if you mean official severs I don't think so just because it can be hard to get an al if your solo especially if it's the beginning of the wipe it's really rough but idk there can be a chance for a crazy snowball.
I agree, the game would be better without a tech tree but I understand why they can't just remove it because most players will have a negative feeling about the change if it feels like something is being taken away. I would love if official servers went no tech tree because it makes it more interesting than just Scrap Farming Simulator. And inhibiting progression with no tech tree could also solve the sulfer quarry problem because people actually need to search for items they need to BP instead of just recycling everything while grabbing diesel until they have 2250 scrap to tech tree rockets.
I have an idea for a more interesting server just not learned enough to make it so: A server where you can't craft T2 or T3, but blue card rooms have T2 and red card rooms have T3 and maybe a rule where you can't just wall off a monument if you do somehow get the stuff to do it
Sulfur quarry isnt the problem, its mainly tech tree, cause you have to take heli or brad for m2s hvs aks, L9s, rockets to get them, and theres a slight chance in locked crate but it would slow down the raids also making the server last longer. And also if there were 200 pop servers, it would always be popin but the map would have to be larger, like 5k maps
Hey there Jade, I need some help on my in game kits. I need a tutorial on how to put mega stacks in the kits, not the Veretech or any other killfeed kits I mean the ones FP have added into the game.
I'm on a vanilla server we own HQM and sulphur quarry it's a 100 pop server. We currently have 4 boxes of HQM we have 5 vending of AKs an unlimited amout of sulphur. Something is to easy 😂
Can’t believe they never even had another ptb update it’s been 2 months last thing they put in the game was those kit vending machines like who even asked for those
Or hear me out duo servers/ squad servers. Somewhere for these groups to actually play against each other not dominate solos and trios. We need many many more servers.
I dont think so, i think its perfect where its at. You should be able to progress quickly so you can be able to fight larger groups. As a person who respects tf out of solos in game, im thinking about the solo player that gonna struggle regardless with big groups so why hurt the little guys. Hurt the big groups. Actually enforce the 8 man team limit.
I have an idea for any and everyone… you decide to play on a 2x but then continue to complain that your getting raided “too fast” I have an idea and it’s to stop playing on 2x servers😑🤡
Tech tree is perfectly fine. Have separate servers with no tech tree allowed Also sulfur quarry isn’t just for big groups. it’s also for solos to to get sulfur equivalent to big groups
Upload a video of you fighting every single group on every single rust console server solo taking over sulfur quarry. If it isnt a problem show the last +20 wipes, +100 servers I'm asssuming +10,000 fights.
Bro what ? You speak for yourself on that one it’s all about getting kills and owning the server for me your jus complaing because your a role player and go for the life aspect of the game don’t claim something based on your opinions make real news on updates lmao
Haven't finished the video but personally I think sulfur quarry really isn't that big a deal on vanilla settings because the scarcity of diesel and the amount of sulfur you get per diesel isn't much because in the time it takes for 1 diesel to roll through quarry you could go to the snow with a Jacky and get 5x the amount of sulfur easily. In terms of progression I think it's just because the game is so old that metas have been established to streamline progression and for console specifically I think a big problem is the limited player count on servers being maxed at 100 whereas pc is 1k+ population in a single server there's alot more competition and strain on the resources around the map that naturally makes progression a little harder. In my experience if you're early enough in wipe you can get on farm a few animals for leather armor and get a crossbow then immediately head to cargo or oil rig etc to push for tier 3 loot within the first hour or two of a fresh wipe. I've long said that while pc has alot more cheaters and those huge zergs console is a whole other beast because in my opinion the average console player is alot more skilled than the average pc player.
Progression is not ruined or too fast if you have a life and a squad that shares that aspect of having a life because me and my guys we try to get on it we can so we progress slow because we are busy with daily life.
I think they need to make what they have in the tec tree they need to expand it to teir 4 - 5 so things like rockets you have to go up farther before raiding
I have to be honest, I totally agree.
Personally i liked it better when it was find the item then you can research it i dont care for the tech tree but its here now
I play boosted servers anyways sense I can only be on a few hours a week it's to tough when you lose all your stuff while at work
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I play on a server that has tech tree disabled, I like the grind personally. A tax on T2 and T3 could help slow progression but even with no tech tree on a 2x server I'm able to run barrels and Crates and have plenty of mats for T3 and at least a SAR within 2 hours. Within 3 hours I'm running cargo and getting AK. If slower progression is what you want then you would have to play a vanilla with no tech tree. Sulfur quarry on anything but vanilla servers is really not needed imo. On 2x and 3x etc... diesel is simply too easy to aquire. Love the videos jade.
Im with u 💯
I think a great way to fix some of these issues would be to make availability of different tiers of weapons and tools and armor be progressed over time by way of weekly events. Like no jackies or chainsaws till the second/third week of monthly wipe. Groups still have the edge BUT can't completely outpace anyone that doesn't pull an 18 hour shift on wipe day. Make it so rockets and c4 aren't available till week two or three. Bring back the prim time. Would help with offlines I think as well. With this type of progression, groups wouldn't be unbeatable in the first three days and with better things like jackies not available till the second week, someone could start wipe a few days late and still stand a chance. Servers wouldn't die in 72 hours.
I agree with you, that sounds like a great idea
@@JadeMonkey would make for some crazy times. A special event each week that unlocks things for people. Have to complete certain tasks, etc. Something like needing to complete all puzzles to get rockets. People barely run monuments anymore. I've been in full on clans of people that don't know how to run Launch lol
Progression is fine. Aks are more frequent because people are actually starting to bring them out to PVP bro when people had Aks when this game first game out, everyone was gear feared. I still run into a lot of that.
Is the horrible lag problem on your server been fixed
That’s an issue with all high pop custom servers. G-portals issue.
Me personally if you don’t like how the game is made just don’t play the game
Yeah man, I wanna make sure to make the game take even more time - my daughter was getting too much time spent with her. Add that tax and lower drop rates and increase crafting costs! Make vanilla 0.5x
Joins no offline server to only be offlined . Joins server with active admin gets admin abused.. admin destroyed our base. Only reliable server I've thought of is urs jade
Bro rust is dying when are monuments coming in
Rust isn't dying at all 🤣🤣 forever having to queue for the server I'm in. Always 20+ people
Nah When is next gen coming
I agree with the tech tree and think it should have tax (u should disable it on ur server) and be able to access all tech trees in a T3 but I completely disagree with the sulfer quarry because the reason what you just said teas already make it so you get 600 sulfer from one node so they already good and if a big clan takes over the quarry you can always blow a hole in it or ladder over and steal the loot from it but i do see what you mean by the sulfer quarry being op
I hate when ppl offline you then say that you should been on so you hit them with I got a job and I touch grass so legendary 😂
Its seems too fast to you because of your played hours and the amount of time you spend on a wipe. There are thousands of players that don't even touch one ak in months
I feel that, I never get an ak there's always some asshole sitting at a monument with an M2 just beaming whoever goes near locked crate
@denzelmartin634 sweater players think everyone also spend 8 hours a day playing rust. When in reality there is ppl playing 8 hours in a full wipe 🤣 If u want aks as a solo try doing some card puzzles. U can find tier 3 weapons on the elite loot boxes 😬🤟
Ive said it before. They need to make it harder for raids to happen. It will be BP wipe and big bases will be rocket raiding in a day. It’s insane
I think the way the stove used to be where you had to cook efficiently was good I miss that
To be fair its us all collectively that optimize the fun out of games. People are too worried about end game and raiding sometimes.
If you just play thr game to have fun than progression isnt crazy
Go Play Minecraft then, nobody wants their 2x2 getting foundation wiped from C4s on wipeday, its annoying when u get gun downed by AK full metal within 2 hrs of wipe
He said collectively.
Including the ak kit guys.
If your gonna be mad be mad at what he actually said.
@@darth9302 he said a whole bunch of nonsense, we don’t “collectively” optimize the fun out of games, that’d not at all how it works. Enjoyment from a game is subjective but it can most certainly become broken and UNenjoyable from exploiters/cheaters or systems imbalances and glitches.
@@THE_MOONMAN endgame and raiding absolutely matters if you spent $60 dollars on a game that you struggle to advance in due to system imbalances, otherwise you’re just wasting your money
@@NoLimit_Niko it was a suggestion not a declaration of how it is.
You shouldn't argue dishonestly.
I'm my opinion if your talking only moded severs but if you mean official severs I don't think so just because it can be hard to get an al if your solo especially if it's the beginning of the wipe it's really rough but idk there can be a chance for a crazy snowball.
I agree, the game would be better without a tech tree but I understand why they can't just remove it because most players will have a negative feeling about the change if it feels like something is being taken away. I would love if official servers went no tech tree because it makes it more interesting than just Scrap Farming Simulator. And inhibiting progression with no tech tree could also solve the sulfer quarry problem because people actually need to search for items they need to BP instead of just recycling everything while grabbing diesel until they have 2250 scrap to tech tree rockets.
Please make a server. start from the beginning
And when you get to tier 2. No tier 3😊
I have an idea for a more interesting server just not learned enough to make it so: A server where you can't craft T2 or T3, but blue card rooms have T2 and red card rooms have T3 and maybe a rule where you can't just wall off a monument if you do somehow get the stuff to do it
I feel like tech tables should be locked in card rooms at safe zone monuments.
You can put blocks on the tech tree on console we blocked below f1 in t2 then all of t3 and after db in t1
Double all weapon and Explo cost on the tech tree and make weapon bodies pull rate significantly lower. I also feel like comps are to giving.
Sulfur quarry isnt the problem, its mainly tech tree, cause you have to take heli or brad for m2s hvs aks, L9s, rockets to get them, and theres a slight chance in locked crate but it would slow down the raids also making the server last longer.
And also if there were 200 pop servers, it would always be popin but the map would have to be larger, like 5k maps
Someone needs to make a server with no tech tree. I’ve been wanting to play on one. Progression is way too fast. Any bozo farming a road can get an AK
you sadly can't do that on console yet
You know what's OP Jade, the staff of Epimetheus.
Hey there Jade, I need some help on my in game kits. I need a tutorial on how to put mega stacks in the kits, not the Veretech or any other killfeed kits I mean the ones FP have added into the game.
I'm on a vanilla server we own HQM and sulphur quarry it's a 100 pop server. We currently have 4 boxes of HQM we have 5 vending of AKs an unlimited amout of sulphur. Something is to easy 😂
Can’t believe they never even had another ptb update it’s been 2 months last thing they put in the game was those kit vending machines like who even asked for those
Or hear me out duo servers/ squad servers. Somewhere for these groups to actually play against each other not dominate solos and trios. We need many many more servers.
I dont think so, i think its perfect where its at. You should be able to progress quickly so you can be able to fight larger groups. As a person who respects tf out of solos in game, im thinking about the solo player that gonna struggle regardless with big groups so why hurt the little guys. Hurt the big groups. Actually enforce the 8 man team limit.
I've made server with NO TECH TREE also NO SULFUR QUARRY Also shops ruined progression.
So I have a Xbox and I bought a rust server on gportal and I don’t have owner of my own server do you know how to fix this
Don’t buy a server.
@@andrewroff5387 🤣🤣🤣
Jade Monkey could u ever suggest them adding the combat update from pc? i think it would make the game much more enjoyable
I wish your severs didn’t have all bps it makes it way to easy it’s already a 2x
Is scrap heli coming out with mini heli
i think they should add the tax and the safe zone update
That moment you seem to forget they added easy and hard mode.... 😂
Wait did they buff sulfer? The sulfer qurry is legit better on pc and nobody says anything.
The sulfer quarry is the same on pc and console.
@@andrewroff5387ok thank you I haven’t played in a while.
its so ezy to get guns now
I have an idea for any and everyone… you decide to play on a 2x but then continue to complain that your getting raided “too fast” I have an idea and it’s to stop playing on 2x servers😑🤡
Been thinking about buying rust on pc.. I love this game on console but holy it’s getting boring
Is your server down ??
Does anyone know a good build sever
Tech tree is perfectly fine. Have separate servers with no tech tree allowed
Also sulfur quarry isn’t just for big groups. it’s also for solos to to get sulfur equivalent to big groups
What if they walk and turret it off.
Upload a video of you fighting every single group on every single rust console server solo taking over sulfur quarry. If it isnt a problem show the last +20 wipes, +100 servers I'm asssuming +10,000 fights.
@@Alckee bro get gud. I’m not using all my storage space for 1 person. Agree or disagree
@@G59Slayz2.0 Notice how U didn’t upload the video. 0-1 fold 😭😭 just say you’re scared and bad
@@Alckee im at work lil bro
I already told you I’m not wasting my storage space clipping all that. You gonna pay me to do so?🤣 thought not
I was raided the first night of wipe on console so it would be great if there was something done to stop raiding.
Go play PVE ark if you are moaning at getting raided. I work I get offline raided is it annoying yes but I know what i signed up for
Bro what ? You speak for yourself on that one it’s all about getting kills and owning the server for me your jus complaing because your a role player and go for the life aspect of the game don’t claim something based on your opinions make real news on updates lmao