@@Jay-nk6dm oh, the two of them would clash for sure... they're both very headstrong and hot-headed. But on the other side of things, the title fights in 2010 and 2012 would've probably been even crazier than they already were... Would've been fun both on and off track.
@@Ennui. for sure. Seeing a “slow” shumacher with his gravitas and political fight at ferrari going up against a faster alonso who can’t play politics would’ve been can’t-miss tv. My guess is FA would’ve left ferrari after 2011, possibly to join Mercedes who drops jenson. Then Hamilton possibly would’ve joined ferrari in 2013 instead. Man this would’ve been spicy for sure
Was my hero as a child use to run around the playground pretending to be schumi lol great memories growing up with this man in f1, such sad sad news that we will probably never see him ever again in the public eye and never fully be the same man ever again, but once and adrenaline junky always an adrenaline junky, couldn’t just have a relaxing holiday at the beach haha that wasn’t Micheal he had to keep chasing that buzz of speed and for that I’ll always respect and love the man! He will never be forgotten, legend
Yeah, well said. Lucky he didn't kill himself when he was racing motorcycles either! But a skiing accident of all things still makes me sad. He was wearing a helmet too. Great memories, nonetheless.
@toddventura7191 like ken block going for it on a snow mobile and that's it another legend gone , although micheal is alive it is so sad to end out the way it did after all the danger and crashes in f1 to have a tumble skiing and basically have your life took away , it's very unfortunate, I do hope the red baron gets better one day 🤷🏻♂️
@@tosgem it was just a development car likely never tuned as fully as an actual race-ready gp2 car would be, and this was still his first time ever driving one. Still impressive
Truly the greatest driver of the modern era. He changed the game for drivers and set a standard that every professional driver strives for. It is such a shame he is still in recovery after his skiing accident
1. There was no GP2 in the 80's/90's 2. Many drivers at that time skipped F3000 (F2) qnd jump straight from F3 to F1 Schumacher actually raced sports cars before he joined F1
Schumacher drove F3 in the mid 80s no GP2 at the time but F2, and he skipped that one to drive for Sauber-Mercedes in World Sports Car Championship 1989-1991.
@@ForzaPolska06 His manager Willi Weber suggested this path to him to make him a better allround driver. And now he's considered by many to be the greatest allround driver ever 👏🏻
@@nielspeelen5748 Now I know Verstappen is an amazing and all but he keep being an A consistently. He's a great driver but that didn't change him being an A. I believe the same can be said to almost every WDC champs. They're an A but no one can change the fact that they're truly the greatest of each gen.
always thought this proofed there should be an non championship race once a year with the f1 grid on spec gp2/f2 cars, dont need to be the newest spec. this would proof whos the fastest in equal machinery yearly, would be a great spectacle ,
right, never knew this but good plan. He never got to his peak level ever again but still a great driver, a Michael Schumacher on 80 % is still better then half the F1 field in those days i guess.
Fun fact: it was car of Josef Král Who told a few days ago, how difficult it was for Schumacher. In f2 cars are not any "drive helpers", so they had to make car slower puropsly to be moře Driveable for Michael
@@greatkali5866 YT channel Eisking - Stevo Eisele and Josef Král. In Last episode they were talking about this. It was F2 car which Josef král drove when he was f2 driver
I remember Schuey at Jerez when he tried to ram Villeneuve but hit him in the wrong place and ended up putting himself out of the race, and the championship too as he was disqualified, given it was only 3 years after he'd done a similar move on Damon, sadly for Damon, that one worked and both cars retired giving Schuey the championship, but any questions of just how accidental the 94 incident was were somewhat emphatically answered in 97. Ironically though in the end, a hill beat Schumacher....
His comeback was to help mercedes to build a competitive car again and as Soos as he made the podium he said there you go and that's my cue Hamilton your turn.
No. He was “four tenths off”… i.e the lap record plus four tenths. I’m not a huge Schumi fan, tbh, but I suspect that it’s not truly like-for-like (conditions, tyres, fuel loads)… otherwise I reckon that would be pretty disappointing for a 7 x WDC, even considering the fact that he’d had a few years away from the sport.
Well not necessarily - it's like in testing - consistency is nearly always what they're looking for - that way it enables comparisons to be made. Plus to run flat out all the time would be much more expensive - bc he would have needed fun race mode. For this purpose upshifting early would have saved stress on the engine and gearbox etc.
He had different setup with easier steering cuz time wasnt important he was getting rdy for f1 and it has power steering. Info shared by driver of the car michael was driving(J.Kral)
Lol imagine thinking one of the greatest drivers ever, wasnt ready for a return to f1? Lmao 😂 they still have four wheels and obey the laws of physics. Something he clearly had mastered.
@@diplomatofthesosbrigade931 So almost, he got into the test because he had a really bad crash in motorcycle at the Mugello that was the main reason to test with the GP2 (but this one is off record)
I dislike Schumacher, as I dislike cheats. He as a very talented driver, but I certainly do give him props for his work ethic, both for perfecting his "behind the wheel" ability, but also for learning the technical side. It's a shame that his "drive" (as in willpower/desire) was a tenth too great to remain within the grey-area of legality, rather than stomping on the rule-book when push came to shov...ing rivals off the track to win championships.
@@mrmiyagi3524in 2 years, he tried to take his rivals out at the end of the season. He was ahaed in the points, but if neither of them scores any points, he wins. So tldr, he crashed intentionally.
I agree. The difference between Schumacher and Hamilton is kind of like that between Ali and Tyson. Both are legendary competitors. But only one is a great champion. I am less enthusiastic when someone of poor character is elevated to such a position of status.
@@PeterAngles-xu7tl still alive though, general "RIP" is used to offer condolences after someone ceases to be alive. & nobody really knows how damaged his brain actually is, therefor nobody actually knows how much of Micheal is still within his brain. brain on, plox.
If he had replaced Massa in 2009...
Just imagine the Ferrari lineup in 2010, Schumacher & Alonso would've been nuts.
alonso wouldve destroyed him, coming from a non-alonso fan. i dont think shumacher would have liked that considering they were rivals
@@Jay-nk6dm oh, the two of them would clash for sure... they're both very headstrong and hot-headed.
But on the other side of things, the title fights in 2010 and 2012 would've probably been even crazier than they already were...
Would've been fun both on and off track.
@@Ennui. for sure. Seeing a “slow” shumacher with his gravitas and political fight at ferrari going up against a faster alonso who can’t play politics would’ve been can’t-miss tv. My guess is FA would’ve left ferrari after 2011, possibly to join Mercedes who drops jenson. Then Hamilton possibly would’ve joined ferrari in 2013 instead. Man this would’ve been spicy for sure
Nah Massa was back for 2010 already. It would have been 2009 only and it would be Kimi and Schumacher... Still an awe-inspiring lineup
The whole point of keeping Massa was that Santander wanted him for the Brazilian market.
That's crazy but doesn't come to close to Alonso having to drive a GP2 McLaren for 3 years
Lmao
best comment on the internet
GP2 engine…..GP2 engine…..
@@silverbullet831 AUGH
The engine feels good
Alonso knows the pain how slow GP2 cars go
He drove those till last year 😂😂
@@blklgnd maybe it is the drivers problem?
@@sargublast7168either you don't know who tf Alonso is or you're just joking
Was my hero as a child use to run around the playground pretending to be schumi lol great memories growing up with this man in f1, such sad sad news that we will probably never see him ever again in the public eye and never fully be the same man ever again, but once and adrenaline junky always an adrenaline junky, couldn’t just have a relaxing holiday at the beach haha that wasn’t Micheal he had to keep chasing that buzz of speed and for that I’ll always respect and love the man! He will never be forgotten, legend
Yeah, well said. Lucky he didn't kill himself when he was racing motorcycles either! But a skiing accident of all things still makes me sad. He was wearing a helmet too. Great memories, nonetheless.
Probably the best all around driver ever.
He was ruthless and shameless, long live the Red Baron.
@toddventura7191 like ken block going for it on a snow mobile and that's it another legend gone , although micheal is alive it is so sad to end out the way it did after all the danger and crashes in f1 to have a tumble skiing and basically have your life took away , it's very unfortunate, I do hope the red baron gets better one day 🤷🏻♂️
Alonso drove a GP2 engine car in F1.
Thats just to tell no matter if youre retired as a racing driver, ur still a racing driver at heart
But that is not an average (retired) racing driver That is the Red Baron.
4 tenths for the record lap!!!!! Even at that age he still had the speed! That man is truly the goat
Just imagine being the record holder
‘Yeah I’m faster than Schumacher’
It's actually terribly slow. Over rated
@@tosgem it was just a development car likely never tuned as fully as an actual race-ready gp2 car would be, and this was still his first time ever driving one. Still impressive
@Paul i mean his mercedes stint is still tainted imo, then again not everyone is like Alonso. He was clearly washed in his 40s
He never lost it. They just hadn't realised how good Rosberg was yet.
Dammm they put the goat in a gp2 car
🐐
He did drive a F3000 race in Japan in 1991, finishing second to his team mate Ross Cheever.
What a beautiful car
God Bless this man.
what a Legend
Fernando: "I know the feeling, Schumi. I know how it feels to drive a GP2 car."
Truly the greatest driver of the modern era.
He changed the game for drivers and set a standard that every professional driver strives for.
It is such a shame he is still in recovery after his skiing accident
@@MD-uu5nt he's getting better, he can comunicate now and speak a little with the help of a computer but it's still pretty tough 😢
@@blklgnd Where do you get that from? According to any public information he is a vegetable.
@@ashleyhubber5734 read something on a random newspaper
Damn he never drove in gp2
Raced for Sauber Mercedes in a C9, C11
1. There was no GP2 in the 80's/90's
2. Many drivers at that time skipped F3000 (F2) qnd jump straight from F3 to F1
Schumacher actually raced sports cars before he joined F1
@@ForzaPolska06 cool
Schumacher drove F3 in the mid 80s no GP2 at the time but F2, and he skipped that one to drive for Sauber-Mercedes in World Sports Car Championship 1989-1991.
@@ForzaPolska06 His manager Willi Weber suggested this path to him to make him a better allround driver. And now he's considered by many to be the greatest allround driver ever 👏🏻
Atleast he need to make sure first then he did it with 1 podium in the mecedes and several top 5 finish back in 2011
Would have been awesome to see Alonso and Schumacher at Ferrari without team orders
Wow.. i always never liked schumi when he was driving..
The greatness of the man hit only when he left...
Salute!!!
You never know what you have until it's gone. It'll be the same with Hamilton and Verstappen.
@@nielspeelen5748 Now I know Verstappen is an amazing and all but he keep being an A consistently. He's a great driver but that didn't change him being an A. I believe the same can be said to almost every WDC champs. They're an A but no one can change the fact that they're truly the greatest of each gen.
@@amin7581ig to become a wc, you do need to become an A
Same Happened with Montoya too. Now F1 fans are commenting like, "He was a beast, agressive, exciting to watch, too fast" etc.
If Schumacher was in Ferrari they would actually have to make a decent car
He is just a goat.
Driving a gp2 car would be good for someone going to McLaren F1. If you can drive a fast car- you can certainly exceed the potential of the McLaren.
Not anymore. McLaren now have a rocket ship.
Alonso must be jealous of Norris and Piastri.
“GP2 Engine… GP2!”
He was a pay driver, perhaps the greatest example of one, which is why he never got to drive any feeder Formula series before his debut.
always thought this proofed there should be an non championship race once a year with the f1 grid on spec gp2/f2 cars, dont need to be the newest spec. this would proof whos the fastest in equal machinery yearly, would be a great spectacle ,
I would love to see that but don't think it will ever seriously happen unfortunately
What a legend
Daniel Riccardo should race in F2 and get the F2 championship to prove he still got it.
right, never knew this but good plan. He never got to his peak level ever again but still a great driver, a Michael Schumacher on 80 % is still better then half the F1 field in those days i guess.
He got beat every year, and either performed minimum expectations or below for a works team. There were at least 10 better drivers.
Wait... is that how Jerez is pronounced?!
Didn't hear it but its pronounced HERES but S with a rolled tongue, kinda like a PH sound in english
GP2 Engine
Fun fact: it was car of Josef Král Who told a few days ago, how difficult it was for Schumacher. In f2 cars are not any "drive helpers", so they had to make car slower puropsly to be moře Driveable for Michael
where do you know this from?
@@greatkali5866 YT channel Eisking - Stevo Eisele and Josef Král. In Last episode they were talking about this. It was F2 car which Josef král drove when he was f2 driver
Thank you for pronouncing jerez as jerez and not yeresz
Goat 🐐
That GP2 was best car he ever drove!
Alonso drove a GP2 too...
"gp2 engine" ahh thingy
I remember Schuey at Jerez when he tried to ram Villeneuve but hit him in the wrong place and ended up putting himself out of the race, and the championship too as he was disqualified, given it was only 3 years after he'd done a similar move on Damon, sadly for Damon, that one worked and both cars retired giving Schuey the championship, but any questions of just how accidental the 94 incident was were somewhat emphatically answered in 97. Ironically though in the end, a hill beat Schumacher....
Gp2 engine, gp2
The comeback was a big mistake. His 3 years at Mercedes were a disaster
not really, that comeback was nice due to the fact he comeback just for pure fun since already archived everything.
His comeback was to help mercedes to build a competitive car again and as Soos as he made the podium he said there you go and that's my cue Hamilton your turn.
Was still faster than Alonso's McLaren
He took 4 tenths off the GP2 lap record? Driving God.
No. He was “four tenths off”… i.e the lap record plus four tenths. I’m not a huge Schumi fan, tbh, but I suspect that it’s not truly like-for-like (conditions, tyres, fuel loads)… otherwise I reckon that would be pretty disappointing for a 7 x WDC, even considering the fact that he’d had a few years away from the sport.
@@philcollard well he got used to TC enabled F1 car sobmuch to the point he forgot what it's like to drive one without TC on.
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't he the most successful pay driver in F1 history?
Didn't he at least test an F-Nippon before his Jordan debut at Spa?
Michael Schumacher：GP2 engine...GP2 ahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
alonso scored points too
4 tenths off is impressive but at the same time it’s Michael fucking Schumacher he should’ve been setting the record
Well not necessarily - it's like in testing - consistency is nearly always what they're looking for - that way it enables comparisons to be made. Plus to run flat out all the time would be much more expensive - bc he would have needed fun race mode. For this purpose upshifting early would have saved stress on the engine and gearbox etc.
He had different setup with easier steering cuz time wasnt important he was getting rdy for f1 and it has power steering. Info shared by driver of the car michael was driving(J.Kral)
Unfortunately, he wasn't aiming to break gp2 lap record on that day.
He was coming from a motorbike accident that gave him nerve damage. 4 tenths off is impressive.
It depends on track and ambient temperature surface grip. Driving only 3 days and 4 tenths off is huge .
not allowing him to test with a real current F1 car was so shady and disgusting.. again everyone tried to nerve him..
if he replaced massa ferrari would godly dominate
Mick nomacher 🤣😂
Pro český fanoušky. Mám pocit že to byla formule Pepy krále
Maybe he will make a comaback someday.....
Max Verstappen also never raced in formule 2 😳
At least, he has driven a GP2 car to prepare for the F1® comeback.
19/04/2023 01:53.
He had a single podium in 3 years. It's hard to win championships when your car isn't twice better than everybody else and Jean Todt is not your boss
Yup it’s funny when everyone talks about modern drivers having the best cars yet act like this dude didn’t have one of the most dominant cars ever
gp2 engine
At the young age of 41, Michael Schumacher became the oldest F1 rookie of the 21st century in 2010.
Lol imagine thinking one of the greatest drivers ever, wasnt ready for a return to f1? Lmao 😂 they still have four wheels and obey the laws of physics. Something he clearly had mastered.
I bet he drove that thing like a hire car.
Gp2 engine. Gp2.
Did you know why he did this test in the first pkace?
He explained it; to get back in the groove of driving an open-wheeler.
@@diplomatofthesosbrigade931
So almost, he got into the test because he had a really bad crash in motorcycle at the Mugello that was the main reason to test with the GP2 (but this one is off record)
im on a cusp hes not gonna recover
Yeah but Max verstappen's the bestest in the whole worlds
Kid, go touch some grass, you've been online for too long.
GP2 engine.. GP2
We know
GP2 engine, GP2... AARGH
Hamiltons poor form this year puts better context to Schumi’s 2nd innings.
Gp2 engine...gp2 AGHGHHHG
This video proves how irrelevant mick schumacher is 😂
How does it do that?
Michael Schumacher is the worst Mercedes driver statistically speaking
Hereth! xD
He did do f2 dummy
Best driver after Senna to sad that he was to dump to drive ski sad sad.
I dislike Schumacher, as I dislike cheats.
He as a very talented driver, but I certainly do give him props for his work ethic, both for perfecting his "behind the wheel" ability, but also for learning the technical side.
It's a shame that his "drive" (as in willpower/desire) was a tenth too great to remain within the grey-area of legality, rather than stomping on the rule-book when push came to shov...ing rivals off the track to win championships.
Explain?
@@mrmiyagi3524in 2 years, he tried to take his rivals out at the end of the season. He was ahaed in the points, but if neither of them scores any points, he wins. So tldr, he crashed intentionally.
I agree. The difference between Schumacher and Hamilton is kind of like that between Ali and Tyson. Both are legendary competitors. But only one is a great champion. I am less enthusiastic when someone of poor character is elevated to such a position of status.
🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
Explained fairly well. Touche mate. Schumi fan approves here.
Not the goat
Then the Motorcycle injury was a lie.
The most overrated F1 driver ever
step in for massa but they didn’t they used Badoer what a pointless exersise that was
Just Italians doing their thing
He tested for Ferrari at Mugello but wasn’t well enough recovered from his motorcycle accident
He had a neck injury as a result of a motorcycle accident earlier in the year, he wasn't as fit for racing as we all would've liked for him to be.
RIP Micheal.
he died?!!
@@HateToSayThisBut no
@@PeterAngles-xu7tl still alive though, general "RIP" is used to offer condolences after someone ceases to be alive.
& nobody really knows how damaged his brain actually is, therefor nobody actually knows how much of Micheal is still within his brain.
brain on, plox.