Why The U.S. Is Falling Behind In Arctic Shipping
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- Arctic sea lanes might be ice-free in the summertime by 2035, according to scientists. That could mean faster global shipping times, and Russia and China are already taking the lead on their side of the frozen North. So why aren't the U.S. and Canada doing more?
Watch the video above to find out more about the opportunities and perils of increased Arctic shipping in what could be the world's next big economic zone.
Sick of shipping delays? There might be a faster way to ship supplies around the world in the not too distant future.
With melting sea ice in the Arctic, Russia and China are expanding their shipping infrastructure over the Eurasian continent. Last year’s Suez Canal incident, when a ship got stuck and blocked global traffic for several days, was seen as just the argument to entice businesses to explore using Arctic shipping routes.
“Many Russian officials are very quick to jump on the fact that Arctic sea routes are potentially much more useful for avoiding the kind of bottlenecks that one would see in either Panama or Suez Canal,” said Marc Lanteigne, associate professor of political science at the Arctic University of Norway.
China claims using the Northern Sea Route would shave almost 20 days off the shipping time now spent traveling through the Suez Canal.
But Arctic transit is no small feat and is still highly unpredictable. Captain Kenneth Boda took the U.S. Coast Guard cutter HEALY through the Arctic over Alaska and Canada this past summer.
“It can be extremely brutally cold in the Arctic and then you can have a beautiful sunny day,” he told CNBC from his captain’s quarters on the ship. The HEALY is one of two specialty ships known as icebreakers that the U.S. has to traverse the ice-clogged waters.
However, scientists are predicting that by 2035 Arctic sea lanes might be ice-free in the summertime.
While that could be good news for shippers, it is a real threat to the Native Arctic communities. Dalee Sambo Dorough, the international chair of the Inuit Circumpolar Council, told CNBC, “The idea that it can be traveled across in a smooth and relatively safe fashion, because there’s no ice, is very scary.”
Two of the largest shippers in the world, MSC and Maersk, told CNBC they’ve decided not to ship in the Arctic. MSC cited both environmental degradation and unpredictability issues, among other considerations.
Others, though, argue global environmental conditions could improve, with reduced carbon emissions from shorter transits.
“It’s really a question of saving shipping cost-saving time versus that lack of predictability,” Gabriella Gricius from the North American and Arctic Defense and Security Network told CNBC.
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Why The U.S. Is Falling Behind In Arctic Shipping
Find it interesting how the Northwest Passage literally goes through Canada, yet the word Canada/Canadian was only mentioned about twice in the entire video.
What do you expect from the US?
The US claims that the Northwest Passage and other waters claimed by Canada are "international waters". Just wait until Russia and the PRC decide that they agree and want to park nuclear subs in Hudson Bay and James Bay. Also, if there is oilspills, who is harmed? It sure isn't the USA.
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The Northwest Passage isn't really a thing in the foreseeable future. The Northeast Passage is already used for tourism while the Northwest Passage is an adventure for the coast guard. Here's an American taking the Northeast passage on a cruise on a 40 years old icebreaker. There's no need to fight over the Northwest passage because it won't be used this century and by then the Northeast passage will have full support infrastructure in place for at least 50 years. It will never be relevant for shipping.
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Because Canada aren't worldwide shitheads like Russia.
Not a single mention of the fact that the Northwest passage is sole Canadian water & territory, not a global 'Shipping route' and contrary to what the U.S coast guard Captain said throughout this video, the Northwest passage does not run "north of North America" it runs directly through it.
Another lie is that China is doing anything in Arctics. 99% of what's happening with the Northen Sea Route is solely Russia's doing. China is only involved finantially in some projects just like Quatar, India and Saudi Arabia. In fact India had invested more in Russian Arctics than China because India really needs coal. Hell even Finland and S. Korea do more than China or US, as they buld some of the ice-class ships for Russia.
Russia's building tens of ports, hundreds of km of railroads and roads there, tens of icebreakers, dosen of new cities. Rosatom is about to build tens of small floating nuclear power stations to electrify the sea rout, Russia is building the longest internet cable along the NSR. The number of projects and the amount of investments there is tremendous. And in the video they talk as if it's China's doing all that, and Russia's just provide territory.
This Canadian pipe dream of claiming the Nortwest passage is not gonna happen. The US holds all the cards in this dispute, and it is geopolitically important to us so why would we ever back down?
@@tiffanylaserna1288 Canada has laid claim to the passage for centuries. The passage is in between dozens of Canadian arctic islands, occupied by Canada's Inuit.
ummm Alaska?
@@tiffanylaserna1288 Russia/China also hold all the cards on the Crimea/Taiwan disputes, and it is geopolitically important to them so why would they ever back down?
This completely glossed over the fact that the US trip through the Northwest passage was considered an invasion of sovereign Canadian waters
Even if you accept the position that those waters are Canadian, as I do, ships have a right to "innocent passage" under international law. If they have legit business and are peaceful then they have a right to sail through. It's no different than how our ships can sail through Indonesian waters as we please so long as we remain peaceful and don't exploit natural resources or spy or what have you.
@@accessthemainframe4475 I'm pretty sure the ice breaker counts as a "state vessel" and not just some random civilian vessel.
@@zapfanzapfan Im sure these icebreakers do have special access that most ship don't have. No doubt is Canadian territory but Im sure US and Canadian government gives icebreaker ship special access to pass through these icy areas so long as they pass through nothing else. Its the Arctic, would be interantional embarrassment if they didn't allow these icebreakers to pass through. Though the situtation will be different when the ice melts and ships pass through it more frequently.
@@zapfanzapfan Doesn't matter if it's a "state ship" or not, they still have the same right as private vessel's. Even warships have the right to innocent passage.
Clearly that would be the cleverest invasion route. A Detroit - Windsor passage is much more risky.
How is it even an argument that Canada doesn't own the northwest passage? It literally passes through the middle of the Canadian arctic archipelago...
Same in indonesia
Even though the strait/passage lies entirely within Canada it is often the case that you have to allow others to pass through it unrestricted due to the rules of "transit passage" effectively making the passage international waters.
American and Russian navy disagree
Canada is weak, they don’t have a say
@@stephenlambert6407 lets see what say they have if they invite Russian and Chinese passage. Be be careful who you think you are friends with as the US ALWAYS has an anterior motive just like the others.
Only corporations would see the melted ice caps as a good thing.
Technically this video is doing the same thing
@@Bugneedfix I agree.
@@Bugneedfix CNBC is a corporation too…
The funniest part is that media in the West when talking about Arctics always mention that melting ice caps can open the sea routs during summer or winter and that's what Russia hope for. In reality Russia is building icebreakers fleet that can operate all year aroung regardless if there is a global warming or there isn't. Russia just don't care if the ice cap melting stops.
In the End, It'll cause the European coastal countries to experience cold winters because the Golfstream gets weaker with the desalination of the water because of the Ice caps melting.
Central Europe will expect drought and this will be even worse in the United States of A.
So the US doesn't agree with Canadian territorial waters?
They don't. There is a view from outside Canada that these are 'international waters'. I disagree being that Canadian sovereign lands (islands) are on either side of the passages.
@@johnbee7729 that argument makes no sense? Are the Straights of Mallaca Malaysian/Singaporean us the Red Sea Egyptian/Sudanese/Israeli? No, because both are international passages.
United Nations granted sovereignty of the Northwest Passage to Canada
@@ecognitio9605 Are you blind? The short cut goes directly through Canada and ONLY our territorial islands, period. There isn’t another country between/beside the route.
Arguably the only part of this route that is international waters is near Alaska and Greenland, but if you look at the map, the rest of the route is sandwiched in our islands and territory. Americans are so self absorbed and ignorant it’s strange.
12 nautical miles
The last bit may become the most relevant in the near future: the militarization of the artic.
That's why Alaska was so useful during the cold war.
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Canada did militarize, in the event of WW3 bombers would come over Canada, NOT Alaska, We had 3 radar lines (Pinetree, mid-Canada and Dew) that had radar stations that would detect incoming bombers and later ICBMs
Not to mention we would also be hit if the nukes fell short, so we had lots of interceptors and even air-to-air nukes
Canada's problem is that we have historically not been at war for long stretches, so our military is small, same with the air force and especially the navy, while at points they were big (WW1, WW2 and highest per Canadian was the war of 1812)
The annoying thing about the NW Passage is that it directly goes through Canadian waters (100km from any land is that country water), which due to the US of A being gung ho about using this new shipping path (saying its international to not have to pay for transit), is leading to tension between the countries
How about America, China, and Russia stay the hell out of Canadian waters. In fact, I love how our arctic sovereignty is conveniently glossed over in this video. It's almost as though Americans treat what is lawfully our territory as their own. It doesn't work that way. The fate of the Northwest Passage is to be decided by Canadians, especially the Inuit, and no one else. By international law and maritime law, the entire passage is Canadian territory. It also happens to be a diverse eco-system that supports the livelihood of the Inuit, and shipping will disrupt that. At the very least, Canada is owed tariffs comparably to those seen on the Panama and Suez canal for the use of OUR waterway.
Russia and China aren't planning anything in those waters. The ice there is much much thicker and further away from Russian gas and for China from European, African and the major South American markets. The North West Passage will never be able to compete with the route hugging Russia.
They are in Russian waters on the Northeast side, if you think the entire arctic ocean is Canadian water im laughing.
@@95ellington yeah the guy got me laughing in us Navy.
Canada and America should work together. American support and Canadian control
Freedom of passage and its international waters, deal with it.
The Northwest Passage is an internal Canadian waterway.
The Northwest Passage is Canadian Territory and needs to be treated as such. It is not an international waterway
But it is an international waterway, it is just not international waters those are legally 2 different things.
@schrodingers cat it's not an international waterway. The US coast guard has to ask permission to enter and travel through the Northwest Passage. Also to be labeled an international waterway, it has to be well traveled and where there is no other option to go a different route. With the Panama Canal, there's tolls to use that waterway. And same thing with the Northwest Passage
@sooje nite I agree, the Somalis get screwed over by countries stealing fish in their fishing waters. It is Slightly different then the Northwest Passage, since the NW passage run through the middle of the Canadian Arctic Archipelago. Where in Somalia the water are off the coast with no land in between. Countries need to respect others territorial waters
As a American it is Canadian territory.
@@baronvonjo1929 Please write your congress-critters telling them to officially recognize that.
Artic is canada and Russians. Not usa
Northwest passage is clearly in Canadian waters. We have land on both sides of the passage.also Santa Claus is canadian
Since when was Northern Canada not part of Canada? Now that there’s money to be made?
So glad that Russia and China are hardly mentioned here! Therefore they can quietly go about their business of exploiting the Artic route to their benefit and become totally dominant in this route even because Russia has around 40 icebreakers (plus 12 over this decade) and the USA has...2?
What is the US going to do about it anyway? Every asian country has major interest in the norther sea route and the US cant tell them which route they must take.
"Leftists are the enemies within".... Putin and Chinese Communists are laughing at the West....
@@vlad_47 True but you know Uncle Sam has had for many decades now the nasty habit of meddling into other people's business.
@@josealbinosantosnogueira6013 Let them try to meddle with this. That route is nearly half as long as the Suez route.
China for example cant be forced to not use the russian route.
South Korea and India have invested in this project so also want to use it.
Not only that they have inveated a lot and built multipule bases there
Isn't it quite sad? By 2035, it'd be possible to send ships through that route, and as Ms. Dorough said, "the region can be traveled smoothly and safely because there's no ice." It's the Arctic for Christ's sake. It's supposed to be covered in ice. Disappointing.
Right. Meanwhile floods will destroy more more more
Scary
Nope. During the history of the Earth there are PLENTY of times when the Arctic wasn't "covered in ice".
plus it's importance to reflect sunlight into space, a landing spot for polar bears, the underwater ecosystem...
@@lucieneadg5837 I researched a bit and yes, there were times the Arctic was ice-free. From an article I read, 5 million years ago, the Arctic was ice-free because its waters were being circulated. Then 2.6 million years ago, geography changed and thermally isolated the region which encouraged ice sheets to form. Isn't it sad that we managed to melt the ice in the 300,000 years we existed? It's been there longer than modern humans existed.
Absolutely not. The Arctic has an extremely low diffusion when it comes to contaminants. Even little pollution there will cause proportionally more damage as it will not be able to dilute into the environment. Any attempt to justify Arctic shipping is ONLY seated in profits and will harm the environment.
@Wedak Tofi For you to have this kinda girl or guy of your dream you need money look up Stephen Bernard Halterbeck to make more money for yourself
but the profits are based on needing to use less resources by having larger ships and less travel time.
@@paxtoncargill4661 to make profit look up Stephen Bernard Halterbeck
You know humans are going to do it anyways
Translated to plain English:
Please don't circumvent our 12 carrier groups and our control of all major trade lanes! Please? Because uhum, THE ENVIRONMENT! Yes, That's it! The environment!
Thank you for talking about indigenous voices in these issues which is often ignored by many Geopolitical debates in the media
it is ironic to hear these indigenous voices yapping about lost indigenous ways sitting in modern houses heated with oil/gas/coal eating modern food, enjoying modern healthcare and yet trying to make you feel bad for their lost indigenousness. It all is a gravy train. Money for nothing. But admittedly a very good reason for a left-bent snowflake to find another S to kiss.
Fascinating video. Don't often say that from CNBC but kudos to you and well done. Definitely would like to hear more.
Canada should have control over the passage, it’s a short cut not an essential waterway for a country sorry China and America
Not if they are more that 12 miles out. If the entire north pole melts what then?
It will never be economically viable unlike the one hugging Russia
It's international waters
If Canada wanted control or even cared about controlling the passing their Coast Guard would be doing what the US Coast Guard in doing.
@@chevy8018 they are ya dingus... This video just never mentioned it. Canada has had icebreakers up there for decades...
The US/Canadian side of the Arctic is practically useless in this navigation. They have nothing to offer to be honest. the US/Canada west coast bringing goods to Europe via that route is impractical and costlier than the currently established trade routes. It's really China/Asia using it going to Europe that matters. I don't understand what the US has anything to say about it.
We don't wanna hurt anything. We just want to break the ice and spread pollution to another untouched place. We're gonna make a lot more money by doing it. What's wrong with that.
A few people understand it…
Right, you can’t trust china and russia.
Giid point. This is painful. Sea ice IS CRUCIAL
You can't BREATHE MONEY. AIR QUALITY? I HOPE YOU CHOKE ON YOUR MONEY
What is a ship a driving through water polluting the environment?
I'm hoping that the global community can come together to at least make an Arctic fishing treaty so we can avoid the current horrendous overfishing in international waters from devastating the Arctic ecosystem. Seriously doubt that China (the worst offender) would sign that though. Enforcement would also be difficult.
Won't be if you treat illegal fishers as pirates
CCP wouldn't care. They have no policy incentive either way for wild-caught fishery. It's mostly Chinese fishermen, cause now average Chinese fishermen has enough money to buy ocean worthy boats. They will just re-register their boat under a different flag, like what happened to everything else Chinese govt banned.
Countries like Iceland, UK, France that fought wars over wild-caught fishery would care more. In fact, unlike those countries, CCP don't answer to voters, they don't care about repercussions of passing such treaty, they just care about beating US & EU in the superpower game.
@@voidvector u r absolutely wrong this since US is the ONLY developed country that haven't sign the Law of Sea Treaty established by UN. Hell, even China and India signed in 1980s. Only fools believe the US media AND gov.
@@voidvector u have small eyes
For that to happen the US needs to recognize the NWP as internal Canadian waters.
The northwest passage is Canadian territory
I just had to do a research project on the coming importance of the artic shipping. Pretty cool to see this video bow
You should also check the Novatek shipyard in Murmansk that was bult recantly, how they make concrete floating factories for LNGs and other resources. Like in Novaya Zemlya they plan to excavate resourses and use floating plant together with floating nuclear power plant. And when the project is over and the resources are depleted they can move to another location on that archiepelago, and leave nothing behind.
World is drowning and effecting with climate change here corporates are planning new route to ship goods.
What a crazy world !
lol, you like shipping across the world burning more carbon ?
Icebreakers are nuclear powered
@@SaiPraneeth21 dude it creates eco logical problems that's the primary thing
Check actual tidal gauge measurements. Nothing major is happening.
Do you prefer to be frozen?
Finally, something I can talk about at parties.
How about completely ignoring the fact that USCGS Healy was escorted through the NWP and Canada's EEZ by the military Icebreaker HMCS Harry Dewolf amongst other CCG Icebreakers. NWP lies within Canada's EEZ and it will remain our sovereign waters.
Nice video.
First thing the US needs to do is recognize that the Nortthwest Passage is internal Canadian waters. Once the US does that the rest of the world will (grudgingly in some cases) fall into line. Then Canada can legally control who is allowed to transit through the NWP. Our friend and ally the US? Sure! Chinese fishing fleet? Sorry, closed for you.
The US insisting that the NWP is international waters actually harms their own economic and defence interests. Baffling behaviour.
its for tax reasons
having it be internal means that canada can get duties and stuff from shipping and have plans if something happens like a disaster
having it international means theres no cost and canada has to foot the bill for infrastructure and emergencys
The movie Don't look up got it correct. Instead of raising the alarm on melting ice, we are discussing profits. Humans will not make it to another planet.
Human extinction is inevitable
The only question is how will it happen
Naturally or self inflicted
Wouldn’t they pollute that water. Maybe because they started doing this this is why The glaciers are starting to melt. I am against all of this this is wrong
Bunker diesel cause ~40% of the worlds transportation pollution. But I want my goods same day.
Then let them melt lol
This is more than bunker look up Stephen Bernard Halterbeck and see testimonies
Amazon saw a shipping problem 5 years ago. Started investing in planes and ships
Sovereign property of Canada. The Yanks wouldn't appreciate us running HMCS Ottawa up the Potomac, same laws/principles apply here.
I mean Canada is practically apart of the us
Canadian internal waters guys. The US needs to respect established legalities.
The average NWP, North West Passage (mostly thru Canada) ice sheet is much THICKER and reamins much longer thoughout the year than the NSR, Northern Sea Route, which goes close to Russia and will become a third Route for the Chinese BRI, Belt and Road Inititive...
A question I never thought to ask.
US has very little say about shipping. Compared to China, the biggest trading nation, US is a dwarf in terms of shipping. It does use its military bullying around though. Had it spent more money on civilian shipping, it probably would’ve been much better positioned
Opening the Arctic to commercial navigation is very, very, very scary ! I am shaking on my couch...
In 2007 Al Gore claimed the Arctic would be ice free in 2014. now they guess it will be ice free in 2035. Sounds like pie in the sky to me.
Honestly I don't feel bad for U.S. "falling behind" on this matter. As if humanity hasn't caused enough rough times to the ice caps. Let's declare the Arctic waters an international nature reserve, prohibiting any vessels to pass through.
The US falling behind doesn't mean the Arctic is saved, it means Russia and China are ahead
No. Russia and China are going to SIGNIFICANTLY increase their trade with Europe. If you think they’re not going to take advantage of that you’re crazy. Russia is already building some of the biggest ports in the world along its northern border. They’re WAAAAAAY ahead of you.
@@brixan... China I’m not sure, but Russia yes.
As the U.S. falls behind. Canada takes the lead.
@@randomassname445 That is not how things work either the US and Canada lead or Russian and China will its not either the US or Canada you have your teams wrong. Canada and the US are obliviously on the same side any disagreements are insignificant the teams are china/russia vs US /canada that's all. The US and Canada already hold regular military exercises in the arctic its just a matter of building infrastructure
3:36 This woman is the face of the USA: "I pretend to be nice by smiling a lot, but whatever I say goes"
Is Panama in trouble?
Lol Canada needs to pursue a hefty load of lobbying to other countries whether their Arctic route should be used as prime route as Russia's is so much faster and cheaper as one for Europe-Asia shipping line. Both Canada and US have no clear reason to disparage the usage of Russian route if there are any some sorts of dispute.
It's is in Norway North of northern Canada. It is literally part of northern Canada.
THIS IS CANADIAN WATERS
The arctic is Canadian bar a small portion which belongs to Alaska and a bit of Russia and Denmark. I agree with MSC and the captain: we should not exploit the arctic or it'll be impossible to clean up the mess if there's an oil spill.
Am sure that with economic pressures (or corporate greed) will take every opportunity to eff up the Arctic waterways. Only a matter of time
Totally agree!
I participated in building of 3 world largest nuclear icebrackers (project 22220) and floating nuclear power plant "Akademik Lomonosov"(that now working in Arctic).
Artic Shipping will certainly sparkle another set of international tensions. Canada and Russia are just some of the countries who have already stated moves and voicing rights and concerns on the subject. The legal and strategic aspects of this route are more complex than simple commercial interests. The fact we have this route as an option is very concerned. All the ice is becoming liquid water and causing increasing havoc in many parts of the world. This is just the start!
There is an old town here in the SHOW-ME-STATE called New Madrid. It’s like the Oldest Town In Missouri. There is an old saying from early in the 18th Century about life along the Mighty Mississippi River one MOMENT…
and the next moment:
“Keep one EYE on the RIVER, and the other EYE on the HILLS”
🌊✝️🌊
I think its clear from this video that no one with a shot at making money cares if Canada is crushed and Inuit are destroyed and all the existing islands and continental seaports are drowned and all us peasants are left scrabbling for food & water .. I cannot for the life of me see who they think is going to buy all this cool stuff they are shipping and mining. Oh .. THATS why we need to go to space, to find customers.
@@rb-pk8ds The heart of the problem you stated is limitless and immoral greed. We unfortunately have plenty of that and is causing society to implode. I see nothing wrong with being rich but when you get to a level where money is just a tool for you to shape society to your own views and in detriment to millions, we definitely have a problem. Are are already experiencing lots of that.
Hey. Some smart points. environmental costs outweigh everything else.
How come there is still so much ice? From reading reports and videos one must logically presume there is hardly any ice left.
Intresting how they said we are suppose to have no ice in the Artic by now.
I mean, the U$ is falling behind in pretty much everything so it also falling behind in the Arctic Shipping shouldn't come as a surprise and is to be expected.
But we are still good at printing money
@@andreycham4797 Spot on.
US: "This is a sign of our terrible climate crisis from burning too much fossil fuel."
Russia: "I see this as an absolute win. MORE GAS, VASILIY!"
Lol no, usa is destroying the world, Russian just selling the oil 🤔🤔
So the middle Arctic route goes just north of the North Pole?
Might be one of the first times ever the profits will actually go southwards.
I wonder how the indigenous people managed to get their TVs and tacos transported to their houses in the 1900s when we didn't complain about climate change...
3:32 SIgh... stuff like this is why Canada is inevitably going to have to militarize and mine the NWP at a minimum. It's not International waters, but the moment $$$ is involved you can count on the good ol' USA to talk about srewing over their closest ally. Do you think the water in between the Hawaiian islands is also international waters? How about the Aleutians?
Calm down the US is not going to attack canada or anything lol. It's mostly a non-issue and the US and canada have just agreed to disagree. Even if canada did try to defend it ( which they won't need to ) its not like you guys can fend of the US. Besides no country in the world recognizes the northwest passage as Canadian waters so don't single out America only. We're not going to screw you guys over. On the contrary the US would most likely defend you. The Canadian military literally can't defend your own country by themselves in the event of an attack. You guys have too big of a country for such a small population and military.
Canada needs to build up our Naval and Air forces if we want to assert our sovereignty over the Arctic, because the Americans definitely aren't going to do it for us.
how about you "Canadians" get the heck out of Canada and give the land back to the natives (oh wait, you genocided them)? you dont have any sovereignty, land robbers!!!
Interest lead to unimaginable damage of place. Predictions I can see it now
Why did they flip the map onto its side like that?
That may directly polluted arctic area.. It's like get solution with another big problem..
Singapore:Well I’m screwed
Russia:I shall employ bears to man the port !
How can the US *possibly* argue that the Northwest Passage does not pass through Canada???
The same reason the Russians, can I use the Baltic Sea should be international waters reason why the turks catch tax and shipping and the Dardanelles and Istanbul
@@titanicbigship You’re not even making sense
Its just rethoric trick of this CBS video. The real issue is that USA is seeking ways to give the Russian Northern Sea Route bad press because it circumvents US control of the oceans and US control of the Suez and Panama.
I thought algore said the Arctic would be ice free in the summer time by now?
It’s not the Arctic or Northwest Passage, it’s the internal waters of Canada.
Interesting, although it completely misses the question stated in the current video title… (clickbait ?)
Yay melting ice caps! We can finally ship more.
In what world is China near the Arctic Ocean?
lol, in their mind if it benifit them
An Ice Breaker crosses through the NW Passage? Was it Legal? Excuse me?
3:30 if the USA doesn't accept that the Northwest Passage is in Canadian waters then the USA shouldn't be allowed to use it .. If they use it any amount then they WILL claim it as USA ...
What is a "sea-free ice summer"?
What will happen, if the global temperature is falling? That's a possibility too. Just have a think!
1:36 so Iceland is not coastal?
Interesting
I don’t think anybody said Arctic, they all say “Artic”. Please somebody inform them!
@Texsun! The same people who confuse arctic and antarctic tend to say "not that big of a deal"
meh. english is tough. also, what you're hearing is probably an appropriate pronunciation according to most english linguists. this is nowhere close to a 'nucular' problem (thanks gwb).
The British says it right.
The British guy says it right.
The U$ is falling behind in pretty much everything so it also falling behind in the Arctic Shipping shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone and is in fact to be expected.
@@wolfdog5981 True.
This comment thread proves than Canadians ARE capable of getting angry.
1:32 Actually it’s not open to interpretation. The Arctic begins at 66 2/3° north.
Activities that have devastating environmental impacts often have very lucrative economical advantages.
Once the Arctic shipping route opens up, it will not shut down and there will be little to no motivation for countries to tackle climate change. It will be the final nail for the Arctic.
And the planet.
Thank you for the video. I'd use a term such as Arctic Warming instead of climate change because the International Council on Climate Change, the IPCC, has their own narrow definition of climate change different from climate as it relates to the growing and production of crops. It is the IPCC's definition of climate change that is now being used, without apparent prudence, when discussing global warming.
Arctic warming has been proceedings much faster than global warming. In the last year a study appeared that provided a mechanism of the needed magnitude to leverage Arctic warming faster than general global warming and that was the apparent increasing influx of warmer Atlantic Ocean waters into the colder Arctic Ocean waters. Water holds an incredible amount of heat energy. Atmospheric warming is puny in temperature forcing compared to what ocean waters can do. The study stated the increasing influx of warmer Atlantic Ocean waters into the colder Arctic Ocean waters had been increasing over the last 120 years.
The IPCC's definition of climate change only recognizes a narrow definition of climate change as global warming mostly due to the burning of fossil fuels adding to greenhouse gases in earth's atmosphere. It ignores the number one greenhouse gas doing all the major temperature forcing in earth's atmosphere which is water vapor. There is some IPCC discussion on water vapor in that it is not generally included because it comes out of the atmosphere in the form of rain in an average of 10 days. That's for human caused water vapor by the burning of fossil fuels! This is the water vapor that the IPCC also appears to use in their pie charts. Human caused water vapor by the burning of fossil fuels is literally a drop in the bucket when it comes to earth's atmospheric water vapor.
Global warming as we look at it today may not be from greenhouse gasses. Water vapor is a strong greenhouse and is many times more numerous in earth's atmosphere than the weak greenhouse gas carbon dioxide. Some math places the atmosphere's total water vapor equivalent CO2e Vs. CO2 at 450 to 1. H20 gas = 18 CO2e. One water vapor molecule has been given a CO2e greenhouse gas equipment of 18 CO2 molecules hence likely why CO2 gas is considered a weak greenhouse gas because it is weak greenhouse gas relative to the number one greenhouse has in earth's atmosphere water vapor.
Water vapor is on average 25 times more numerous in earth's atmosphere than CO2 gas and with a 18 CO2e it is 18 X 25 = 450 times more dominant in earth's atmosphere than all the CO2. If an analog of CO2 in earth's atmosphere to global warming is that of acting like a blanket then the total water vapor equivalent would be 450 blankets.. What about if we removed what might be considered to be all CO2 in earth's atmosphere from burning fossil fuels, using a high number of 400 ppm CO2 as present day verses pre industrial level of about 250 ppm CO2 we'd have 250/400 or 0.625 or about 2/3 (0.6666) today's CO2 when we include water vapor CO2e equivalent it would be 450 2/3 CO2e compared to today's 451 CO2e. In real greenhouse temperature forcing the difference is likely none.
CO2 gas in the high stratosphere is thought to be responsible for warming the earth surface some 50°C by converting high energy UV radiation from the the sun into lower frequencies better able to warm the earth. This is not a greenhouse gas effect. The CO2 emission spectrum from this conversion is very obvious to readings on earth's surface. This is thought to take place at very low pressures and concentrations of CO2 where saturation takes place at 10 - 40 ppm CO2 in atmospheric pressure less than 1/100th of sea level atmospheric pressure. With no CO2 in earth's atmosphere it is thought earth would be a snowball and has been in the past.
CO2 is naturally removed from earth's atmosphere by plant and animal use. Sea creatures make shells out of CO2. The remains of these plants and animals can effectively be removed from being recycled back into earth's atmosphere by being buried or frozen. Bacteria eating the remains will release CO2 back into the atmosphere as well as burning the remains such as with firewood or fossil fuels.
Coal was thought to be formed before bacteria evolved that would eat the dead swamp trees allowing them to get buried and eventually through pressure and heat turned into coal. All recoverable crude oil is thought to be from dead sea plankton that was liquified after being buried then moved to a location that captured it. So any place that has crude oil at one time had to be under a sea. Natural gas which is composed greatly of methane is thought to be created from the same ocean plankton responsible for crude oil and is found with crude oil, however; methane gas has also been discovered on other planets and moons with an atmosphere. Methane in the gas giant planets is thought to be from a geologic processes of the early solar system. There has been a debate if all discovered methane on earth is from organic sources or if some might be from geologic sources.
The IPCC biggest supporters appear to be people living in large cities with irritating levels of traditional air pollution. The large bulk of traditional air pollution comes from incomplete combustion of burning fuels with carbon which is all fossil fuels. If fossil fuels were eliminated those large cities would have more breathable air. They may still not have enough reliable water, huge traffic congestion, noise and all the problems of building large cities where they shouldn't be plus possibly paying three times as much for energy than today making them less sustainable economically.
The advantage of switching to BEV cars is they are not dependent on dimensioning supplies of crude oil. They have a side benefit in that in large cities they reduce immediate air pollution. They are also significantly cheaper to fuel than petroleum vehicles, but this is largely offset by their initial higher cost. At non home charging station the cost benefit of fueling is largely lost. They are also 1,500 to 3,000 pounds heavier than their petroleum counter parts due to 100kWh to 200kWh lithium ion battery.
A big problem is the earth really appears to be getting warmer and real work on understanding the issue seems to have been sidelined. There maybe a human cause for global warming, but then again it maybe minimal to none. Changes in land use done by man was a main focus for possible causes for global warming back in the 2000s. Look at aerial photos of human changed landscapes. See the large increases of water surfaces where there was once forest now used for stormwater retention ponds. A water surface appears almost black to inferred heat. Then there is all the black top streets and black roofs. These black surfaces cause warming. Cities themselves are warmer than the surround rural areas. Larger cities likely add more warming to the earth. Admittedly compared to the heat retention of the Pacific and Atlantic oceans these human changes are small, but likely due cause some global warming.
It is really ocean warming rather than global warming that is the leveraging concern because as ocean waters warm they expand raising sea level.. All sea level rise today can be accounted for by the increased temperature of the oceans. There maybe some melt water in the mix, but simple expansion of sea water from increased temperature accounts for current sea level rise and predicted sea level rise. In addition sea water temperatures of 80°F and above are thought to fuel hurricanes. Much historic ice melt is balanced out by increased precipitation in the form of snow in such places as Greenland. Denmark believes Greenland maybe close to net even in melted ice verses newly created ice due to increased snow activity. The general news media seems to do stories on melting ice torrents, but never on increased snow accumulation.
Ok…. Explain how the planet Venus is experiencing runaway global warming. Does Venus have massive retention ponds displacing forests??? What about all the water vapor on Venus? Oh ya there isn’t really any. Abundant levels of CO2 is the main reason Venus is a hot hellscape. And the Earth (from humans) is headed that direction. Albeit we will never turn Earth into such hostile conditions as Venus but our emissions are a HUGE issue throwing Earths natural CO2 cycle out of wack and causing massive warming.
@@shasmi93 CO2 in earth's atmosphere has been ten times higher than today's levels and plant life appeared abundant. CO2 naturally goes up in the atmosphere as ocean water warms and doesn't retain as much CO2 as it would when cooler. Even a weak greenhouse gas such as CO2 when it is 96% of an atmosphere that is 95 times more dense than earth's is gong to cause extreme heat retention which is Venues's atmosphere. Earth's atmosphere is 400 ppm or 0.04% CO2. 99% of earth's atmosphere is composed of just nitrogen and oxygen which are invisible to inferred radiation and not greenhouse gasses. Water vapor is the dominant greenhouse gas in earth's atmosphere by hundreds of times over all the other greenhouse gases combined.
It shall be done
um, yes you will have an argument about the Northwest Passage being in Canadian Waters, seriously, do some homework before posting such nonsense.
So the Panama Canal isn't in Panama? SMH
"Hey, as long as we're destroying the planet and melting the ice caps, we might as well exploit the situation even more!"
Exactly what I was thinking.
You actually believe that the earth is warming because of man, that's a funny joke. This must be the first time the climate has ever changed.
@@tira2145 you actually think that 9 billion people extracting every last resource from every last place on the planet doesn’t have ANY effect on the earth? That’s funny. Every other living thing on this planet in those numbers has an effect on the planet. Why would you think humans who use WAY more resources than those other living things would have no effect on earth? Your logic makes no sense.
@@shasmi93 let me guess, if we just tax the developed countries a lot, and keep the poor countries from delovping any more. Is that the answer? When I see the leading advocates actually live by what they want the rest of us to suffer through, then I will pay attention. How many times has Al gore taken a private jet? Obama lives on a island?
Pumping CO2 into the atmosphere 10 times faster than the petm extinction event. What's the worse that could happen?
Protect the environment!
If everyone knows about it now, is it still secret?
B1M made a brilliant story on this
You got a link for that??
@@Boston82bl th-cam.com/video/pvy9usF7ohE/w-d-xo.html
Why are only the inuits concerned about the arctic de-icing?! Why is everyone else talking about it so casually?!?!
The inuits are "concerned" because they won't be able to act like savages to club the seals and poach the polar bears anymore. They couldn't care less about the environment.
Hey, I knew Ken Boda when he and I were in Connecticut! That was cool to see. And I'm pretty sure I heard the other guy say the the central route will take ships just north of the North Pole. What?
Cannot imagine if cargo ship oil leak🤔
Why not mention that 750,000 square miles are equal to three texases... That seems important context...
Didnt know Canadian islands is now owned by America now.
Why should it matter if US ships are not using the Arctic routes?
Damn, that polar bear mom and cub comment was tone deaf.
By 2020 our children will not know what snow is - Al Gore
Yes....100%
is it just me or did the title of this video change like 3 times? lol
So, what, as soon as the ice is thin enough, we’re gonna start breaking it apart constantly?
That's the plan
Not at all we need green ships if we plan on using artic pass. Thats all we have left
Where has cnbc been? Saying that the recent supply chain troubles have started the conversation about using the arctic as a shipping lane when that concept has been discussed a number of years along with the story that the USA has far less ice breakers than Russia or Canada. Nice story but old news.
Minor correction at 1:40, shouldn't there be 6 coastal countries in the arctic circle? US, Canada, Russia, Denmark/Greenland, Iceland, and Norway? Finland and Sweden not having direct access to the Arctic ocean.
They say only 6 are coastal but 8 lie within the circle
@@cmdr1911 I have seen this before and also struggle to understand why two countries without direct access to the Arctic Ocean are included.
@@cmdr1911 But If they don’t share a coastline with the Arctic Ocean then how can they lay claim to the waters?
@@seankilburn7200 Becuase they are artic nations. They are involved with more than the coast line.
@@cmdr1911 Such a fantastic answer. You really did explain why what goes on in the Arctic Ocean involves two nations that do not border it.
That’s a way to break things