@@tinoyb9294 I would bet that you don't know much about some of it either ! At least he is trying to learn more about than some of the people that are against doing anything to keep the Mustangs safe , healthy and have plenty of resources such as water and grass !
Thank you Trinity for taking us to the Pryor Mt Wild Horse Range. I have been wanting to go there for years. I still have this on my bucket list. I have kept the maps the BLM sent me in 1999. There was a horse called Cloud there once that I was following. I guess many of his his offspring are still up there.
Yes some of Cloud's offspring is still in the area ! Sadly Cloud passed away years ago ! I remember when they seen him and gave him his name followed him all the way !
Trinity awesome video. You really gave a great perspective of the wild horses very rough country I don’t see how they survive out there but they look pretty good Great job. I think that would be cool see you camp out there and ride caliber looking for the heard👍
Thanks for the update of the Pryor Mountain Horses. Should see if you could have brought Tawa back with you, good looking and good conformation. But Calibar a keeper. Thanks Trinity for the video.
Enjoyed this very much. Visited this area many years ago. Remember seeing the wild horses for the first time. Very exciting. We also saw the big horn sheep there. Thanks again for all the wonderful information and taking us along on your journey.
Great video. Informative & interesting. I like the idea of you following up with a camping trip to this place and making another video. Thank you for making/sharing this video.
This is something seeing the grasses and all. Its beautiful country in spite of its toughness. How horses are able to subsist on the little thats there is fascinating. Thx for the book recommendation. My granddaughter has worked rehabing wild horses here in Oregon off and on and she might be interested in the book and hearing more about whats happening there.
Thanks for taking me there. Of course very interesting. Now i've got the wish to visit. Definitely have to visit Montana and Wyoming at least once in my life. It's only a couple of thousand miles. At least 2 air flights away.
We have some Feral horses in our area SW of Cascade. It's a wonderful surprise to be outside enjoying a project and finding horses on your property or a morning at the kitchen table looking out the window. What we've learned is, when people cant take care of a horse any longer they take them to an area (they think) is good and just turn them loose. Not sure of the pro's and con's of this, but we enjoy it. Thank You for the video! We drove through Townsend couple weeks ago and thought of you.
Just out of Missoula city limits is a well known herd that looks Morgan.Another herd that is derived from Morgan horses in CA has been wild on private propertys for yrs.and yrs.
❤🤠🐎 People say ignorant things Trinity. You weren't disrespectful to that woman, what an odd comment. You obviously love horses and aren't advocating for mass or inhumane slaughter. You're trying to show all sides and help people have a better understanding of the issues. I think it's too bad more Mustangs can't be adopted out given the vast nunbers of horses owned by people in this country. Why do people think a valuable equine companion has to have such a fancy pedigree and high price tag? Prices of modern horses boggles the mind. Thanks Trinity for your videos and common sense as you advocate to preserve the West and its way of life. 🇺🇸🙏🐂🐎⭐
Your really not up to par on this subject. The mustangs that are not bought at auction after a roundup are marked for the "kill pen" Doesn't matter if it's stallion's, mares or foals. The kill pen horses are sent to Mexico or Canada and slaughtered, their meat sold to Europe and China. Fortunately for some mustangs a horse sanctuary will have raised enough money from charitable donors to go to these auctions and buy up as many horses possible with the donated money. They rehab the horses and are able to adopt them out all over the USA. I think it's time for people to catch up with the truth concerning cruelty taking place to these horses that for generations have lived on the open range.
Thank you Trinity sir for sharing this information with me ! You have answered a few of my questions that I have had for a long time ! I had followed a Mustang since he was little his name was Cloud but I cannot remember where he was located ! He died years ago but I do know that some of his offspring was still in the area where Cloud was born !
Thank you for going and doing your research as well as reaching out to Pryor Mountain Mustang Center, Yes there are many herds that do have names Mustang's in McCullough Peaks Wyoming, Sand Wash Basin Northwest Colorado, Salt River Arizona, Steen's Oregon, Virginia Range Nevada, Piceance Colorado, and many more areas that have mustangs are documented and those groups that keep track on the blood lines just like Pryor Mountain does. At lease now you know there are not thousands of mustangs running on 40, 0000 acres in that location, or other locations since there is a set AML amout.
That was an extremely well conducted interview. Definitely a strong point for you pointed relevant questions never boring. I think now you’re also admitting that those horses weren’t the full cause of that bad grass, like you said they were. This is bigger than all of us. Bigger than you, bigger than me, bigger than the horses. Be careful thinking you know the story
There are videos all over youtube showing these horses, including the infamous Cloud who disappeared in 2016. There are many of us locals that follow these horses who photograph and film them. Best wishes.
Thank you Trinity for this video. I've always loved the west and always thought it would be neat to see a band of wild horses. I will definitely see if I can find the book back here in the Midwest. God bless you as you continue to show the importance of the west. Trinity can you tell me which book you were talking about. He has written many books.
trinity what a great documentary. i think a dream job is out there looking for the horses to document them. would it be too difficult to do a follow up on the mustangs that are culled off this land? i watch a lot of horse rescue, organizations and individuals, and sometimes you'll see a mustang in the slaughter pipeline. have you done a documentary on your horses: their life being trained and a working horse? thank you for this!
I like her Taos NM t-shirt. We are getting more loose horses here in NM after our wildfire, about 12 loose horses up in our mountains now. I think they must have let some of them loose in the fire.
Trinity, you really should try to make it up to the summer range sometime, at the top of the mountain. I've spent many a week camped up there and photographing the horses. Even in late June and early July there are still patches of snow that feed water holes, it's about 8,500 feet elevation and much greener than the winter range where you were. 4WD for sure.
Trinity, according to everything that I've read bucksin horses don't have a dorsal stripe. Grulla and dun horses usually have a dorsal stripe and leg barring. I own a buckskin stud and breed for the buckskin color. Like you, when I look at the vegetation, I wonder what there is there for horses to eat. Thanks for the video.
You're Correct about the buckskin, dun, grulla markings. My mustangs in the pasture are a lot like goats, lol. Ive seen them walk away from freshly filled feeders and go strip the leaves off blackberries or eat all the bark off an olive tree. Go figure, lol
I still remember the book, "Smokey" by Will James, that I read when I was really young, that became one of my favorite stories about horses... It's about a life long relationship with a really stubborn, spirited, wild stallion that a cowhand caught wild, and eventually was able to train... Great ending... The novel was turned inro a movie of the same name, starring Jamez Stewart.
I used to give a donation to a horse. My husband gave donations for Christmas for me many years ago. He also works for the BLM in Ridgecrest, Ca. He has a lot of horses and burros at the Ridgecrest facilities. People are not adopting as much anymore. They are beautiful animals. They can go to the prisons to get trained, and then they will be very awesome horses. I really love taking care of the sick and lost babies. Mostly, burros. Mustangs are the best tame horse because they are loyal.
My youngest sister owned a stallion and 6 mares on her land - her favorite horse was the stallion - he was a registered Arabian stud that someone let go out on a large ranch to improve their herd of horses but that failed - the stud jumped the property fence and disappeared into the wilderness - after the stud was found and caught that winter he was sold at auction to my sister dirt cheap - she bred him and sold the foals for several years - those horses are now back on a huge ranch running wild and free YEA!!!
Maybe I missed in your previous videos, but wow, I wouldn't have guessed that horses have same life-span of a cat! I thought horses have life-span of about 30-35 years!
There MAY be some cats that reach into their 30's, but that's very rare... It's more common for feral outdoor cats to live up to 4-5 years, and indoor well-cared for cats to live average 14-17+ years depending on the breed, or if it's a mixed breed (who have the least amount of genetic diseases)... Many live into their late teens into their 20's... It's almost the same with horses... Lippizzaners are known to live well into their 30's (those are the horses that have lost all their grey, and are the ones you see that are all pure white)... But, the majority of horses, their lifespans normally end in their 20's... Again, depending on care and breeding.
These horses are way overmanaged if you ask me, Mother Nature can deal with some horses without question in fact they would be greener with horses they help to sped grasses like crazy.
I was wondering she mentioned it being a small herd and wanting to keep a diversity going ! Is there a way to introduce other Stallion or Mare into the herd to help with diversity ?
Okay birth control once they do that mare how long does the birth control last and would the mare be able later to become pregnant or is it a permanent ?
Great video, learned a lot and the country there is beautiful! Rugged yes, but so pretty! I’m curious about the fertility control methods. Why do they only target mares? Wouldn’t it make more sense to cull out a certain number of colts every year and geld them? That would be 100 percent effective. Of course you leave the ones with the best confirmation intact, which is how “natural selection” works anyway. Which would also mean removing older stallions who may not be strong enough to make another winter. Also I’m wondering if the stuff they use on the mares has the potential to cause them to abort foals? Like an early, undetectable pregnancy? That would be horrible!
I wouldn't say they NEVER return .. I know of a woman from Canada that got permission to return her adopted mare back ..she had an old injury that would not be acceptable for a life as a riding horse ... I think her range name is Alegra
Very good presentation. This horse group and others are extremely valuable by collecting information and providing birth control. The problem is that the birth control is only effective for one year at a time. It is highly unlikely that darting the Pryor horses is 90% effective. If it was, the limited reproduction would be replacing natural mortality and the Pryor herd would not be twice the appropriate management level. Additionally, it is virtually impossible to provide effective birth control to horse herds of over 150 animals. There just are not enough good horse groups around to partner with the federal government to manage the herds. And how would you even track individuals in herds, like in Nevada, where there may be 300 to 1,500 or more horses in an area. I'm guessing that the Pryor herd is growing at a rate of 8% to 10% per year to double in eight years since the last gather. Imagine herd where gathers are made only once every seven or eight years, but birth control is applied only once (when animals are captured, sorted and some are released back out). No wonder the growth rate of many herds is 15% to 25% per year. Kind of interesting that, just like some ranchers, many horse advocates seem to always want more animals on the range than what is good for the range. Despite this being a "good year," you really have to manage for the worst years, so emergencies do not occur. That's the hard part. Through most of the West, feral horse herds are managed from crisis to crisis. As such, these ranges are never allowed to fully recover.
a horse can clear a fence with no problem they just don't know it. My Quarter horse can jump very high he can just all of our fences with no problem but humans showed him how to jump.
I think one thing many people don’t realize when comparing cattle and horses is Cattle travel the same path consistently so only damage grass in that one path while horses walk anywhere and everywhere which damages grass. I’ve been told by ranchers here in FL that it takes significantly more land per horse than it does to raise cattle. Also horses will almost continuously eat and their teeth cuts the grass as short as possible. Cattle just tears the grass and it isn’t cut so short and cattle will also rest in the heat and stop eating while they chew their cud.
You’ve been lied to ! By rich cattlemen that only want cattle or sheep on the land !! Do your own research ! Also the BLM said there isn’t enough grass that the horses are starving ! Not true so they had to come up with the wild sage theory. Now it’s not enough water. Another lie.
@@michaeloleary1066 You sound like you don't understand. It is the BLM and ranchers that want their cattle on our public lands. Cattle are already on public lands but ranchers want more. Lands that at one time were designated for the wild horses only so our legacy horses get stripped from their home's in about 10 different states, others auctioned off and the rest get shipped to slaughter business's in Mexico or Canada, stallion's, mares and foals. All atrociously inhumane, action against these horses. No matter the reason for the horse removal from lands, if you and others believe the horse removal is okay, your a lost soul.
@@dianab5286 hello again, who has access to the land that has been "fenced off for wild horses" and how is that land maintained and managed, you have a good day
I appreciate your videos. I learn a lot but more importantly you make me consider different views. I think the non profits you have interviewed seem afraid of the consequences possible from TH-cam viewers reactions. Not sure what to make of her apprehension to response.
This is some of the same type of Ground we have around Eckert and Delt Grand Junction into Utah. It grows Gras really well when reseeded, but the BLM refuses to do so!
@@dianab5286 feral adjective fe·ral ˈfir-əl ˈfer-; ˈfe-rəl Synonyms of feral 1: of, relating to, or suggestive of a wild beast feral teeth feral instincts 2 a : not domesticated or cultivated : WILD feral animals b: having escaped from domestication and become wild feral cats Horses are NOT native fauna, by no stretch of the definition. They do NOT belong in a native ecosystem, they're an invasive species.
@@dianab5286 The original North American horses were indeed different from the ones we see today. The first ancient horses lived in forests 55 million years ago, both in Europe and America. At that time they were the size of dogs. Horses resembling the ones we know today evolved in North America and from there they spread to Asia and Europe1. This migration happened between one million and 800,000 years ago. The oldest-known species of the genus Equus is Equus simplicidens, also known as Hagerman horse, Hagerman zebra, and American zebra, which appeared about 4 million years ago. It could be found from present-day Florida to Idaho. Its appearance was relatively similar to the modern horse, being around the same size with similar teeth, a long face and neck, and fully fused leg bones. However, about 10,000 years ago at the end of the Pleistocene, most of North America’s large mammals, including Equus species, went extinct. The cause of their extinction is widely debated among the scientific community with a definitive conclusion not yet determined. Domestic horses come from wild horses in Europe and Asia. They were domesticated about 6,000 years ago1. The wild horses are gone, with the possible exception of Przewalski’s horse, which originated on the Central Asian steppes.
Well Trinity, I think you haven't asked the right questions. What about horses the BlM sells to horse traders in big numbers? Which they are not supost to do. Just to regulor adopters. They ship them straight to Mexico. And if you talk to the right people they would tell you the truth and show you proof it happens. Now I've seen some videos where people snuck on BPM holding facilities. Conditions are horrible . Deplorible and BlM is making money selling them. But a lot of people don't care.
"wild feral horses'....There is no such thing as a wild feral horse. Wild and feral have conflicting meanings. Wild is naturally occurring and feral is domestic stock that has escaped or been turned loose. There are no wild horses on this continent.
See everybody likes you! Run for Office. GOP Montana Senate candidate Tim Sheehy blasted Rep. Matt Rosendale (R-MT) for being a "career politician" whom "nobody likes."
One thing I have never been able to understand. The BLM sell horses every year. That gives them problems. Because not everyone want a small horse. Why don’t they keep the best and taller stallions for breeding. Then those goals would be an easier sell. Later
Stop with the wild horse RANT. Go back to ranching you've made your point and shouldn't try to little others. This cow , horse and sheep, goat problems have been here before mine or your great grandfather's were here. You do realize how uncomfortable you made this young woman right??
I agree with you! I'm not impressed with this guy either. Somewhat of a bully and very arrogant. He didn't really listen but had his agenda thoroughly planned. I hope to hell all ranchers aren't like him but facing reality I'm starting to believe they are. Never a word about trying to find a way to co-habitat cattle and horses. I'm a born and bred farmer girl and grew up on a family dairy farm in the Midwest. I understand profit and loss and constant hard and dedicated work to have the best herd as possible. I also understand the importance of protecting and treating humanely our wild horses, Burro's etc. The roundups HAVE TO STOP! NO MORE ROUNDUPS IN 2024. It's cruel, inhumane and shameful to our country. The world knows what is being done to our wild horses! The world! These horses represent what used to be a Free and Untamed American Spirit! They are our legacy horses and deserve respect and protection. Protection from being rounded up under distress by a helicopter and which almost always some horses break their legs, necks and injured in various ways. Foals are separated from the mares, not always able to keep up with the horse band. The horse band is their protection and their family. Next up the captured horses are taken to auction. If not purchased they are tagged for the kill pen including foals (babies). The kill pen horses are loaded up in trucks by the slaughter house business's and most likely travel to Mexico or Canada where they are slaughtered for their meat. There is so much more to their story, please research this yourself. There are so many acts of atrocities during this whole process. Thank you! Diana B @the.life.of.deeanddoodad
Seems Trinity when talking to these non-profit groups probably has a lot more experience and knowledge. Kudos for him listening and being respectful.
He doesn't know how the branding works. He doesn't know much.
dont be a 🤡@@tinoyb9294
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@@tinoyb9294 I would bet that you don't know much about some of it either ! At least he is trying to learn more about than some of the people that are against doing anything to keep the Mustangs safe , healthy and have plenty of resources such as water and grass !
@@tinoyb9294 He didn't realize that they were not bandit until
they were shipped out for adoption .
Thanks for showing us the Pryor.Mountains & the Mustangs
Really interesting facts about the wild horses,thanks for taking us out on your adventures!
Thank you Trinity for taking us to the Pryor Mt Wild Horse Range. I have been wanting to go there for years. I still have this on my bucket list. I have kept the maps the BLM sent me in 1999. There was a horse called Cloud there once that I was following. I guess many of his his offspring are still up there.
Yes some of Cloud's offspring is still in the area ! Sadly Cloud passed away years ago ! I remember when they seen him and gave him his name followed him all the way !
I love ur videos keep them coming please I have learned a lot about wild horses in ur area
So interesting Trinity. I always learn so much from your videos. Thank you for doing what you do!
Thanks for letting us come along with you and learn more about the wild horses
Feral Horses.
Trinity awesome video. You really gave a great perspective of the wild horses very rough country I don’t see how they survive out there but they look pretty good Great job. I think that would be cool see you camp out there and ride caliber looking for the heard👍
Thanks for the update of the Pryor Mountain Horses. Should see if you could have brought Tawa back with you, good looking and good conformation. But Calibar a keeper. Thanks Trinity for the video.
Enjoyed this very much. Visited this area many years ago. Remember seeing the wild horses for the first time. Very exciting. We also saw the big horn sheep there. Thanks again for all the wonderful information and taking us along on your journey.
Great video. Informative & interesting. I like the idea of you following up with a camping trip to this place and making another video. Thank you for making/sharing this video.
I am thinking about it. Could be interesting.
Good stuff Trinity! What a controversial topic to try and solve. Thanks for sharing, I learned a few things. Can't wait to see what's next.
This is something seeing the grasses and all. Its beautiful country in spite of its toughness. How horses are able to subsist on the little thats there is fascinating. Thx for the book recommendation. My granddaughter has worked rehabing wild horses here in Oregon off and on and she might be interested in the book and hearing more about whats happening there.
Thanks for taking me there. Of course very interesting.
Now i've got the wish to visit. Definitely have to visit Montana and Wyoming at least once in my life.
It's only a couple of thousand miles. At least 2 air flights away.
Awesome photography of the horses
Luved this video! You teach us so much.
We have some Feral horses in our area SW of Cascade. It's a wonderful surprise to be outside enjoying a project and finding horses on your property or a morning at the kitchen table looking out the window. What we've learned is, when people cant take care of a horse any longer they take them to an area (they think) is good and just turn them loose. Not sure of the pro's and con's of this, but we enjoy it. Thank You for the video! We drove through Townsend couple weeks ago and thought of you.
Thank you for your thoughts. Yes. Cascade isn’t that far away if you mean Cascade, MT.
Just out of Missoula city limits is a well known herd that looks Morgan.Another herd that is derived from Morgan horses in CA has been wild on private propertys for yrs.and yrs.
Great video. So interesting and the horses are gorgeous!
Thank you, just magnificent vistas, wonderful information.
I really enjoyed this! Thank you so much. Please keep the information coming.
Thank you Trinity for video.
❤🤠🐎 People say ignorant things Trinity. You weren't disrespectful to that woman, what an odd comment.
You obviously love horses and aren't advocating for mass or inhumane slaughter. You're trying to show all sides and help people have a better understanding of the issues.
I think it's too bad more Mustangs can't be adopted out given the vast nunbers of horses owned by people in this country.
Why do people think a valuable equine companion has to have such a fancy pedigree and high price tag? Prices of modern horses boggles the mind.
Thanks Trinity for your videos and common sense as you advocate to preserve the West and its way of life. 🇺🇸🙏🐂🐎⭐
No not true. He doesn't even know "all sides".
Your really not up to par on this subject. The mustangs that are not bought at auction after a roundup are marked for the "kill pen" Doesn't matter if it's stallion's, mares or foals. The kill pen horses are sent to Mexico or Canada and slaughtered, their meat sold to Europe and China. Fortunately for some mustangs a horse sanctuary will have raised enough money from charitable donors to go to these auctions and buy up as many horses possible with the donated money. They rehab the horses and are able to adopt them out all over the USA. I think it's time for people to catch up with the truth concerning cruelty taking place to these horses that for generations have lived on the open range.
Thank you Trinity sir for sharing this information with me ! You have answered a few of my questions that I have had for a long time ! I had followed a Mustang since he was little his name was Cloud but I cannot remember where he was located ! He died years ago but I do know that some of his offspring was still in the area where Cloud was born !
Thank you for going and doing your research as well as reaching out to Pryor Mountain Mustang Center, Yes there are many herds that do have names Mustang's in McCullough Peaks Wyoming, Sand Wash Basin Northwest Colorado, Salt River Arizona, Steen's Oregon, Virginia Range Nevada, Piceance Colorado, and many more areas that have mustangs are documented and those groups that keep track on the blood lines just like Pryor Mountain does.
At lease now you know there are not thousands of mustangs running on 40, 0000 acres in that location, or other locations since there is a set AML amout.
That was an extremely well conducted interview. Definitely a strong point for you pointed relevant questions never boring. I think now you’re also admitting that those horses weren’t the full cause of that bad grass, like you said they were. This is bigger than all of us. Bigger than you, bigger than me, bigger than the horses. Be careful thinking you know the story
Would love to see more of the wild horse.
There are videos all over youtube showing these horses, including the infamous Cloud who disappeared in 2016. There are many of us locals that follow these horses who photograph and film them. Best wishes.
Thank you Trinity for this video. I've always loved the west and always thought it would be neat to see a band of wild horses.
I will definitely see if I can find the book back here in the Midwest.
God bless you as you continue to show the importance of the west.
Trinity can you tell me which book you were talking about. He has written many books.
Yes, I would like to read the book mentioned as well. The Will James books listed on Amazon don’t sound like what you described.
trinity what a great documentary. i think a dream job is out there looking for the horses to document them. would it be too difficult to do a follow up on the mustangs that are culled off this land? i watch a lot of horse rescue, organizations and individuals, and sometimes you'll see a mustang in the slaughter pipeline. have you done a documentary on your horses: their life being trained and a working horse? thank you for this!
Great video, love your content buddy!
I like her Taos NM t-shirt. We are getting more loose horses here in NM after our wildfire, about 12 loose horses up in our mountains now. I think they must have let some of them loose in the fire.
From the condition of these horses, their management looks perfect.
Trinity, you really should try to make it up to the summer range sometime, at the top of the mountain. I've spent many a week camped up there and photographing the horses. Even in late June and early July there are still patches of snow that feed water holes, it's about 8,500 feet elevation and much greener than the winter range where you were. 4WD for sure.
Great video, Trinity!!!
Harmony
Thank you for showing us some about wild horses.I liked this a lot did you say you rode some with the wild horses?
That's pretty cool and looks like fun
Trinity, according to everything that I've read bucksin horses don't have a dorsal stripe. Grulla and dun horses usually have a dorsal stripe and leg barring. I own a buckskin stud and breed for the buckskin color. Like you, when I look at the vegetation, I wonder what there is there for horses to eat. Thanks for the video.
You're Correct about the buckskin, dun, grulla markings. My mustangs in the pasture are a lot like goats, lol. Ive seen them walk away from freshly filled feeders and go strip the leaves off blackberries or eat all the bark off an olive tree. Go figure, lol
I still remember the book, "Smokey" by Will James, that I read when I was really young, that became one of my favorite stories about horses... It's about a life long relationship with a really stubborn, spirited, wild stallion that a cowhand caught wild, and eventually was able to train... Great ending... The novel was turned inro a movie of the same name, starring Jamez Stewart.
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That was great. But what part of Montana where you in (didn' get it) your meat tasting was great!!
North Dakota wild mustangs are all named too, with a Face Book page !
I used to give a donation to a horse. My husband gave donations for Christmas for me many years ago. He also works for the BLM in Ridgecrest, Ca. He has a lot of horses and burros at the Ridgecrest facilities. People are not adopting as much anymore. They are beautiful animals. They can go to the prisons to get trained, and then they will be very awesome horses. I really love taking care of the sick and lost babies. Mostly, burros. Mustangs are the best tame horse because they are loyal.
My youngest sister owned a stallion and 6 mares on her land - her favorite horse was the stallion - he was a registered Arabian stud that someone let go out on a large ranch to improve their herd of horses but that failed - the stud jumped the property fence and disappeared into the wilderness - after the stud was found and caught that winter he was sold at auction to my sister dirt cheap - she bred him and sold the foals for several years - those horses are now back on a huge ranch running wild and free YEA!!!
It looks barren but there are areas of grasses and even springs in some of the canyons.
So when there's little grass for the horses come winter does anyone bring in something for them to eat during the winter ?
Maybe I missed in your previous videos, but wow, I wouldn't have guessed that horses have same life-span of a cat! I thought horses have life-span of about 30-35 years!
There MAY be some cats that reach into their 30's, but that's very rare...
It's more common for feral outdoor cats to live up to 4-5 years, and indoor well-cared for cats to live average 14-17+ years depending on the breed, or if it's a mixed breed (who have the least amount of genetic diseases)... Many live into their late teens into their 20's...
It's almost the same with horses... Lippizzaners are known to live well into their 30's (those are the horses that have lost all their grey, and are the ones you see that are all pure white)...
But, the majority of horses, their lifespans normally end in their 20's... Again, depending on care and breeding.
This was great! Yes please camp out with Calibar.
You know I am no country gal when I cant even wrap my head around what 40 thousand acres looks like😂
Interesting where in Montana is this sanuary located
Smoky by will james was a well loved book in my house
These horses are way overmanaged if you ask me, Mother Nature can deal with some horses without question in fact they would be greener with horses they help to sped grasses like crazy.
LOL... "Yep..Yep...yep, yep...YEP..."
I was wondering she mentioned it being a small herd and wanting to keep a diversity going ! Is there a way to introduce other Stallion or Mare into the herd to help with diversity ?
You have it backwards... She said they want to keep the lines going, but it's difficult in bands with not a lot of members.
Okay birth control once they do that mare how long does the birth control last and would the mare be able later to become pregnant or is it a permanent ?
Great video, learned a lot and the country there is beautiful! Rugged yes, but so pretty! I’m curious about the fertility control methods. Why do they only target mares? Wouldn’t it make more sense to cull out a certain number of colts every year and geld them? That would be 100 percent effective. Of course you leave the ones with the best confirmation intact, which is how “natural selection” works anyway. Which would also mean removing older stallions who may not be strong enough to make another winter. Also I’m wondering if the stuff they use on the mares has the potential to cause them to abort foals? Like an early, undetectable pregnancy? That would be horrible!
I mean everyone names horses. Even if the don’t own them and just tends to them. Big black frasier boy whose real sweet. Nicknamed him Vulkan.
I wouldn't say they NEVER return .. I know of a woman from Canada that got permission to return her adopted mare back ..she had an old injury that would not be acceptable for a life as a riding horse ... I think her range name is Alegra
MUSTA BEEN OUTTA MONTANA SHIRTS, CRAP
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Do you know if part of the wild horses are from people dumping unwanted horses or horses they are unable to take care of
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Would have been nice if you could have found Encore one of maybe only 3 palominos in the Pryor's .
Very good presentation. This horse group and others are extremely valuable by collecting information and providing birth control. The problem is that the birth control is only effective for one year at a time. It is highly unlikely that darting the Pryor horses is 90% effective. If it was, the limited reproduction would be replacing natural mortality and the Pryor herd would not be twice the appropriate management level. Additionally, it is virtually impossible to provide effective birth control to horse herds of over 150 animals. There just are not enough good horse groups around to partner with the federal government to manage the herds. And how would you even track individuals in herds, like in Nevada, where there may be 300 to 1,500 or more horses in an area. I'm guessing that the Pryor herd is growing at a rate of 8% to 10% per year to double in eight years since the last gather. Imagine herd where gathers are made only once every seven or eight years, but birth control is applied only once (when animals are captured, sorted and some are released back out). No wonder the growth rate of many herds is 15% to 25% per year.
Kind of interesting that, just like some ranchers, many horse advocates seem to always want more animals on the range than what is good for the range. Despite this being a "good year," you really have to manage for the worst years, so emergencies do not occur. That's the hard part. Through most of the West, feral horse herds are managed from crisis to crisis. As such, these ranges are never allowed to fully recover.
Once they're rounded up and lose their ferral horse celebrity, do they retain the names?
a horse can clear a fence with no problem they just don't know it. My Quarter horse can jump very high he can just all of our fences with no problem but humans showed him how to jump.
Wild hors as s were native to the US but were wiped out with the mastodons so i have read.
The indigenous wild horses thousands of years ago are not even distant relatives of the feral horses here today.
I think one thing many people don’t realize when comparing cattle and horses is Cattle travel the same path consistently so only damage grass in that one path while horses walk anywhere and everywhere which damages grass. I’ve been told by ranchers here in FL that it takes significantly more land per horse than it does to raise cattle. Also horses will almost continuously eat and their teeth cuts the grass as short as possible. Cattle just tears the grass and it isn’t cut so short and cattle will also rest in the heat and stop eating while they chew their cud.
You’ve been lied to ! By rich cattlemen that only want cattle or sheep on the land !! Do your own research ! Also the BLM said there isn’t enough grass that the horses are starving ! Not true so they had to come up with the wild sage theory. Now it’s not enough water. Another lie.
If you have a wild mustang BLM requires you to have at least a 6ft fence for them
This sounds to me like, a land grab
On whose part? The ranchers?
@@dianab5286 Definitely not the ranchers, alot of land fenced off for "wild" horses
@@michaeloleary1066 You sound like you don't understand. It is the BLM and ranchers that want their cattle on our public lands. Cattle are already on public lands but ranchers want more. Lands that at one time were designated for the wild horses only so our legacy horses get stripped from their home's in about 10 different states, others auctioned off and the rest get shipped to slaughter business's in Mexico or Canada, stallion's, mares and foals. All atrociously inhumane, action against these horses. No matter the reason for the horse removal from lands, if you and others believe the horse removal is okay, your a lost soul.
@@dianab5286 hello again, who has access to the land that has been "fenced off for wild horses" and how is that land maintained and managed, you have a good day
These groups are strange, very strange.
What groups?
@@dianab5286 That’s self evident.
I would say recorded or documented not so much managed.
I appreciate your videos. I learn a lot but more importantly you make me consider different views. I think the non profits you have interviewed seem afraid of the consequences possible from TH-cam viewers reactions. Not sure what to make of her apprehension to response.
if you let them graze on your land you have to feed them in the winter and water them with your resources taking from your own livestock, FYI
This is some of the same type of Ground we have around Eckert and Delt Grand Junction into Utah. It grows Gras really well when reseeded, but the BLM refuses to do so!
Feral horses. They're not wild (Indigenous fauna)
Who or what is your source for that statement? I'd like to know.
@@dianab5286 feral
adjective
fe·ral ˈfir-əl ˈfer-; ˈfe-rəl
Synonyms of feral
1: of, relating to, or suggestive of a wild beast
feral teeth
feral instincts
2 a : not domesticated or cultivated : WILD
feral animals
b: having escaped from domestication and become wild
feral cats
Horses are NOT native fauna, by no stretch of the definition. They do NOT belong in a native ecosystem, they're an invasive species.
@@RealJeep Who said horses aren't indigenous to North America? Source?
@@dianab5286 The original North American horses were indeed different from the ones we see today. The first ancient horses lived in forests 55 million years ago, both in Europe and America. At that time they were the size of dogs. Horses resembling the ones we know today evolved in North America and from there they spread to Asia and Europe1. This migration happened between one million and 800,000 years ago.
The oldest-known species of the genus Equus is Equus simplicidens, also known as Hagerman horse, Hagerman zebra, and American zebra, which appeared about 4 million years ago. It could be found from present-day Florida to Idaho. Its appearance was relatively similar to the modern horse, being around the same size with similar teeth, a long face and neck, and fully fused leg bones.
However, about 10,000 years ago at the end of the Pleistocene, most of North America’s large mammals, including Equus species, went extinct. The cause of their extinction is widely debated among the scientific community with a definitive conclusion not yet determined.
Domestic horses come from wild horses in Europe and Asia. They were domesticated about 6,000 years ago1. The wild horses are gone, with the possible exception of Przewalski’s horse, which originated on the Central Asian steppes.
Where does she get the idea that stallions wont breed with their offspring? Not true from what ive seen.
Well Trinity, I think you haven't asked the right questions. What about horses the BlM sells to horse traders in big numbers? Which they are not supost to do. Just to regulor adopters. They ship them straight to Mexico. And if you talk to the right people they would tell you the truth and show you proof it happens. Now I've seen some videos where people snuck on BPM holding facilities. Conditions are horrible . Deplorible and BlM is making money selling them. But a lot of people don't care.
"wild feral horses'....There is no such thing as a wild feral horse. Wild and feral have conflicting meanings. Wild is naturally occurring and feral is domestic stock that has escaped or been turned loose. There are no wild horses on this continent.
See everybody likes you! Run for Office. GOP Montana Senate candidate Tim Sheehy blasted Rep. Matt Rosendale (R-MT) for being a "career politician" whom "nobody likes."
One thing I have never been able to understand. The BLM sell horses every year. That gives them problems. Because not everyone want a small horse. Why don’t they keep the best and taller stallions for breeding. Then those goals would be an easier sell. Later
Hat off inside a building
Lets call everything by it’s proper name and call all the wild horses, affectionately, dog food.
Trinity a little less hostility
Stop with the wild horse RANT. Go back to ranching you've made your point and shouldn't try to little others. This cow , horse and sheep, goat problems have been here before mine or your great grandfather's were here. You do realize how uncomfortable you made this young woman right??
I can't speak for him about how he feels about you being "uncomfortable". But the rest of us out west don't care about your feelings
It’s reality, accept it!
Everyone has a voice as long as it is funded by your neighbors hard earned tax dollars.
I agree with you! I'm not impressed with this guy either. Somewhat of a bully and very arrogant. He didn't really listen but had his agenda thoroughly planned. I hope to hell all ranchers aren't like him but facing reality I'm starting to believe they are. Never a word about trying to find a way to co-habitat cattle and horses.
I'm a born and bred farmer girl and grew up on a family dairy farm in the Midwest. I understand profit and loss and constant hard and dedicated work to have the best herd as possible. I also understand the importance of protecting and treating humanely our wild horses, Burro's etc. The roundups HAVE TO STOP! NO MORE ROUNDUPS IN 2024. It's cruel, inhumane and shameful to our country. The world knows what is being done to our wild horses! The world! These horses represent what used to be a Free and Untamed American Spirit! They are our legacy horses and deserve respect and protection. Protection from being rounded up under distress by a helicopter and which almost always some horses break their legs, necks and injured in various ways. Foals are separated from the mares, not always able to keep up with the horse band. The horse band is their protection and their family. Next up the captured horses are taken to auction. If not purchased they are tagged for the kill pen including foals (babies). The kill pen horses are loaded up in trucks by the slaughter house business's and most likely travel to Mexico or Canada where they are slaughtered for their meat. There is so much more to their story, please research this yourself. There are so many acts of atrocities during this whole process.
Thank you!
Diana B @the.life.of.deeanddoodad
@@williamkirkpatrick8314 look dick weed i wasn't uncomfortable the girl he was interviewing was.