Canon R6 Overheats in 1080p 30fps!!

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  • @SMBYopinion
    @SMBYopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +3

    After feedback from many users, I have concluded that this is most likely due to a software bug with EF-S lenses or shooting in crop mode. When using FF glass, it doesn't seem to overheat in 1080p. Thank you so much to everyone who took the time to run their own tests and share their findings. Really appreciate it!

    • @wikrap1
      @wikrap1 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's still interesting that it overheats in such a scenario, but actually why anyone would like to use R6 with APS-C lens? In FF 1080p there is no issue. I can overheat R6 with 4k and start 1080p 50p recording right away.

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  ปีที่แล้ว

      True, in most scenarios you wouldn’t use an EFS lens. I had the r6 for the better part of a year prior, and didn’t notice. But yes, very odd to see how that configuration would cause overheating.

  • @TomFewchuk
    @TomFewchuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just did my own tests shooting in 1080/25p IPB Standard - cropped video mode with a Canon 35 f/1.4. Used eye AF the whole time (camera pointed at me while I worked), had the screen flipped out and was in a roughly room temperature room.
    Shot at ISO 800, f/2.5, 1/50 and switched to ISO 1600 after 30mins. Also had it on CLOG3 422 10 bit.
    These settings were trying to replicate some long podcast shoots that I normally do but where I require the crop mode to replicate other full angles with the limited lens selection I have (ie 6Dii w/ 85mm, plus R6 using 1.6x crop w/ 50mm = ~80mm makes the same rough angles)
    I got 2hr 23min over almost 5 full 29:59 clips before it died from heat. During the end of clip #4 and throughout all of clip #5 the heat indicator was flashing on screen but still recorded for ages. After this I waited 7 minutes then tried again. Lasted for another 26 minutes before dying from heat.
    So total in these test was close to 3 hours (2hr 49mins) which I think will be reliable enough for what I do with these podcast shoots!

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for running your own tests and sharing your findings! Apologies for the late reply as I've been busy and away from TH-cam the last little while. Yeah, there doesn't seem to be consistency with different people's results. My guess is because I used an actual cropped EF-S lens, not just in-camera crop mode. Again in theory it shouldn't make a difference that's why I believe it might be a software bug. Regardless, using EF lens doesn't seem to have this issue so I'll leave it at that.

    • @TomFewchuk
      @TomFewchuk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SMBYopinion mm yea the ef-s makes sense (in a nonsensical way haha).
      Oh well, I've sent Canon feedback, hopefully they'll eventually do a firmware update

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

  • @TomFewchuk
    @TomFewchuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video running through all those tests and settings! Really well put together.
    I've read through all the comments and it seems the issue is just the crop mode setting causing the overheating (which of course doesn't make sense and hopefully will be fixed with a firmware update), but you should really update the title and description of the video to reflect this for any new people coming along so that they know it's fine to record 1080 in full frame for an unlimited time.

  • @benjaminmiller4622
    @benjaminmiller4622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've had the same issue with my R6. I recently found that my issue was that I was using a crop lens on a full frame sensor. I used the 18-35mm f1.8 Sigma lens which caused major overheating in any codec. But when I switched to a 24-70 canon full frame lens I had now issues. Could it be the lens that's causing the overheating issues??

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the tip. I was using a cropped lens so I’ll give that a try. @theartisticphotography also mentioned that as well. Ironic though, shouldn’t a crop put less stress on the sensor? Hence why older 4k cameras had a crop.

    • @benjaminmiller4622
      @benjaminmiller4622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SMBYopinion you know that’s what I thought as well, but one of my friends said that maybe there’s more power focused on a smaller portion of the sensor and that’s causing the overheating 🤷🏻‍♂️I’m honestly not sure, but it seems to resolve itself when switching lenses!

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey Ben, you’re right, I tried it last night with a FF lens and it didn’t seem to overheat. It ran until the battery died. Didn’t continue with a fresh battery though as it was getting late, but this is good news. Seems like canon didn’t even know about this. Thanks for the tip

    • @benjaminmiller4622
      @benjaminmiller4622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SMBYopinion awesome!! I was so glad to find this out as well. It’s kind of crazy that Canon didn’t know about this. I’m still really curious as to why it happens though.

    • @viseleMD
      @viseleMD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i have the same problem, when i turn on crop mode in 1080p 25 p my camera overheat after 50 min, when using all sensor (crop mode off) camera never oferheat. When i using an flash trigger in photo mode camera overheat but not show overheat icon on screen but camera become little bit hot then touch screen not work corectly ( double click on photo didn't zoom photo, can't move another photo using touch screen ( just using button )

  • @vvinters
    @vvinters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would send that R6 back to Canon and tell them it isn't performing to spec. I have 2 R6s and neither of them have experienced that phenomenon before. They have been recording for over 2hrs continuously many times without issue in 1080p50. Even when you reach overheat in 4k, once you switch back to 1080p you can continue recording without stopping.

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Maikeru, thanks for sharing your experience. Unfortunately I’ve sent my camera to Canon already and after multiple attempts to prove to them it’s not to spec, they don’t seem to think so. Hence not willing to repair or replace :(
      Glad to know I’m not actually going crazy though.

    • @mandofan2616
      @mandofan2616 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SMBYopinion so no refund?

  • @ritrattoaziendale
    @ritrattoaziendale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I see @2:13 you're using an UHS-I card; R6 has UHS-II slots, it writes there faster and with less processor use (yeah, i know for IPB-LIGHT 1080p you won't need all that speed from UHS-II), so the camera would heat way less, even if it's recording with a low bandwidth codec the processor would be less stressed because that very same bandwidth is recorded with less stress both on processor and on the sd card (think of your UHS-I card working at 30% of her speed with that codec...an UHS-II would ran at...5% of her speed? Which one you think will be cooler? Which one will have the processor work, and heat, less to unload the buffer?) .
    Use UHS-II, there's no way of having an R6 and using it with obsolete cards, other then if you're a pure photographer (no video, not even one in the entire lifetime of the camera) and shoot on a tripod in single shot AF and 1fps drive speed. Any other use of the R6 will be castrated by the use of UHS-I cards.
    For the record, i'm expanding to video, but at this very moment i'm nearly that kind of shooter (photo only, mainly business portraits with camera on tripod, 1fps, single shot AF); and i use UHS-II cards anyway.

    • @ritrattoaziendale
      @ritrattoaziendale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I read just now is some of your answers below that you used a crop lens, and after retesting with a FF lens you got fine. Yes, of course the camera is optimized for using the (almost in 4k; 94%) full sensor in 1080p; if you use a crop factor on sensor, that's of course extra computational power for the processor, so I'm not surprised that you overheated. Consider that, as a photographer, i can't live without the battery grip, and actually using it has the interesting side effect of pulling batteries outside the camera, so that put much less thermal strain on the whole system, even in 4k you can record much more then a std single battery stuck in camera, coming to recording levels close to an external adapter with the dummy battery.

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the reply and suggestions. Actually it’s not entirely obvious that a crop requires more computational power. Most earlier generation cameras uses a sensor crop to reduce strain when shooting in 4K. In theory using less of the sensor should not add stress to the camera instead should make the camera run cooler. This, I suspect is a bug on canons end, it’s probably something they don’t bother fixing as most people don’t use EFS lenses with this camera. I just happened to use one for the test because it was a pancake lens and it made the setup easier to throw around, not realizing that would have a negative effect.

  • @CocoaCat97
    @CocoaCat97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My new R6 was giving me issues with overheating all day while filming a wedding yesterday!! Even inside in the AC at 1080 at 30 frames (Though, early in the day I was outside I was at 4K and it was warm). Once I switched to 1080 and literally set my camera on top of an AC vent it was still overheating later during the reception. I literally couldn’t record half the ceremony because of this, thankfully the lead got most of the footage

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Man that’s rough. Glad it worked out in the end. What lens were you using if you don’t mind me asking.

    • @CocoaCat97
      @CocoaCat97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SMBYopinion I was using canon ef 70-200mm L IS II. I was also using an ef to rf mount.

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see. Some of us figured it was because we were using it in crop mode. Seems like when I got off crop, I was able to get longer recording. Were you using crop as well?

    • @CocoaCat97
      @CocoaCat97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SMBYopinion No :( I need to do some testing and see if can make any difference in it.

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Keep us posted! :)

  • @Eightpspi
    @Eightpspi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The r5 & r6 are pandemic cameras and their hardware & software are off. The overheating is really unacceptable and my r5s both of the hotshoe ports are loose.

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dang, that’s real unfortunate. I hope canon can do something about your hot shoes

  • @TheArtisticPhotographycom
    @TheArtisticPhotographycom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    DUDE, YOU ARE RIGHT! This R6 IS A LEMON as a video camera! It overheats at 1080p also on both of my Canon R6 cameras when you set it to Cropped enabled, within 25 minutes the Overheat Warning will light up for sure on both of my R6 Cameras that are actually NOT RECORDING because I am using a NINJA V to record it. So this lemon R6 overheats on standby mode (NOT Recording whatsoever)!
    I shoot dance recitals and unfortunately, some of these recitals could take 2 - 3.5 hours long. This weekend I was shooting a two-hour and 20-minute recital (with one 15 min intermission) and I had to turn off my R6 in-between dances because the overheating warning lit up after about 25-30 minutes of being turned on. Turning it off in-between dances I think helped that it did not shut down completely while shooting for just a little over an hour & 10 min. But it was very stressful knowing that it could shut off anytime.
    At first, I thought it might be because of my older R6 camera (I bought about a year ago) but I switch to the other R6 during intermission and it did the same thing also When Cropped Mode is enabled. It definitely will overheat in Cropped Mode even if it is NOT Recording in 1080p C-Log off)!
    I had to use the cropped mode on my FollowCam (R6) camera because my 24-70mm f/2.8 is not long enough, but my 70-200mm f/2.8 is not wide enough for shooting at the location where I was allowed to shoot. I can't move forward or backward so I'm stuck in this one location and the only practical solution I found was to use the Cropped Mode which allowed me to get somewhat closer yet wide enough to zoom out to get the full stage. When using 4K/30 Canon Log off, overheat lights up in about 35 min on an ambient temp of about 68F and just on standby (NOT Recording) because I was using the NinjaV to record it!
    Just like you, I am so frustrated, and if I can RETURN these LEMONS back to Canon, I will!

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing your experience. I agree, it’s such a shame because this r6 with its lower price tag would be great for people who shoots hybrid photos and long format video (since a lot of these times 4k isn’t a necessity). Unfortunately it just doesn’t do it well. The bummer is many people claims to not have these problems, so the variation in canons QC is just bad! I didn’t test the difference between cropped or non cropped though so maybe I’ll give that a try but yes standby overheating is incredibly lame as well. Sigh…

  • @wadesweeney2200
    @wadesweeney2200 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mine doesn’t overheat in 1080 but I do use RF glass so maybe that is your issue?

  • @truthseeker6804
    @truthseeker6804 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for this video. i have decided to go for the r6 mark 2. although where i live i can get the r6 for $2000 and the r6 mark 2 for $2800. ouch thats painful. but i do long videos mainly. so this is a deal breaker really. but i can also get sony a7s3 for $3400. which is close to the r6 mark 2. so im really lost but the money just keeps climbing i just want a7c now. lol. but im considering the r6 mark 2 strongly.

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha yeah it’s a stressful process deciding. Manufactures price their cameras strategically to upsell. The next product up the ladder is within affordable budget so you’re always tempted to get the better one. At some point you’ll just have to decide what you need and put your foot down. Good luck buddy!

  • @mandofan2616
    @mandofan2616 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you send the camera back for refund? I don't think enough people did thid. It would be a clear sign to Canon to stop making and selling crap.

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn’t. I’ve already had the camera for a year or so before noticing it. It was already past return date.

  • @mandofan2616
    @mandofan2616 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    when canon fuk up but can't admit it. Its amazing that a 6dii can record and record and record until you run out of memory on the card, but an R6, 10 years later is worse and with a n insulting 20MP. Waiting for R successor this year or Q1 of 2023 (rumoured)

  • @hellolau
    @hellolau 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the R6 and R5 and they both overheat. My iPhone is better 😅
    I bought Sony A7IV, it’s a nice camera but not as fun to shoot with, yeah this is subjective of course.
    I can’t wait to ditch Canon all together. My next hope is Nikon Z8 or if Panasonic releases a new autofocus system.

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha I actually started using my GH5 again while this r6 was being inspected by Canon and fell in love with the image again. I found the image to be much easier to work with compared to canon. But yes, that autofocus lol

  • @philiphenderson5040
    @philiphenderson5040 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I noticed that your SD card is rated XC I and was wondering if you had the same experience with an XC II card. I shot approximately 2 hours of FHD 30 fps video during a wedding, including pre and post ceremony, on my R6, using 2 Lexar Professional 128 GB 250 MB/sec. XC II cards, without overheating, though I did have to change batteries.

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Phillip, thanks for the suggestion. I have not tried it with an SDXC2 card but I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t need that type of speeds for FHD content. I used to use Sandisk Ultra cards on my 5D4 before for FHD and it ran fine without any overheating, so it’s most likely not a card issue. Seems like the issue is when the camera is set to crop mode. For some reason it uses more processing power and therefore overheats. Which is strange because usually crop modes are designed to lessen the stress of a camera. Probably a software thing..

  • @LatexFashionTV
    @LatexFashionTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    R6 Firmware 1.6 out today. Hopefully that helps. No overheating fix like in todays R5 release but hopefully that comes down the road for R6 like clog3 did.

  • @ww3photography
    @ww3photography 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow Canon should really help you out on this, I have an r6 and just ran a similar test - 1080 IPB at 30FPS and i restarted every 29 minutes and did 4 hours, then switched up to 60 FPS and did another hour total and it still didnt over heat, mind you I just did the firmware update.
    When i first got it out of the box it overheated on me while shooting 4k 60FPS for about 2 hours of on and off work.

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, canon really should but they claim it’s a non issue… maybe if I’m lucky enough and this video spreads they might listen but probably not going to happen haha.

    • @TheArtisticPhotographycom
      @TheArtisticPhotographycom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      1080p should be ok and SHOULD NOT overheat unless you turn on (Cropped Enable) to extend the zoom range of your lens. Try shooting at 4K/30 or 60 or enable Crop Mode) and you'll see what I mean. Just leave your R6 Camera ON and you DON'T even need to RECORD because in my case, I use the Ninja V to record the HDMI output of my R6. I would be OK if it did not overheat on standby but that is the sad part, R6 Overheats even on standby without recording on it, if set to Cropped Mode or 4K/30 or higher.
      In my case I was using a Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8 but it was not long enough to get it a little closer. Using a 70-200mm lens on the other hand was not wide enough when i needed it to be. Cropped Mode allowed me to shoot at an equivalent 36mm-106mm which was perfect for what i need it for. I wish I could have shot it in 4K/30 but definitely it would have shutdown most likely because even at 1080p/30 it already started overheating and I had to turn off my R6 every time each dance scene changes. It would had ben a disaster if it shutdown on me while recording a Dance Recital.

  • @PIPERBOYWILLIAMS
    @PIPERBOYWILLIAMS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Taking mine back. I’m not giving them all my money with this overheating crap. Never dealt with this before.

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What are you going to switch to?

    • @PIPERBOYWILLIAMS
      @PIPERBOYWILLIAMS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SMBYopinion bought a black magic 6k pro

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good stuff! Love the bmpcc colors!

  • @xinsnake
    @xinsnake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very curious so I just did a test...
    R6 (Firmware 1.5.2) + RF 35mm f/1.8, Stabilisation turned OFF
    2 * Sandisk Extreme Pro 128GB microSD adapted
    Manual exposure (1/50, f/1.8, Auto ISO)
    Single point AF
    FHD 60P IPB Standard
    Record to 2 Cards
    Recorded for 29:59 and after that camera still shows 29:59, and the back of the camera is very slightly warm.
    Definitely some problem with your copy of the R6 there.

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for conducting your own test with your r6. I agree, seems like canon did not remove the software limit on my camera for 1080p or something. Or perhaps indeed a dud. I will try long format in the other codecs to see how it is.

  • @eddiegonzales13
    @eddiegonzales13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nah, mine doesn’t overheat.

  • @Chris-NZ
    @Chris-NZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One user versus large corporation. Jump ship man you are in a no-win situation or trade in on the R7. Statistically a sample of one in millions of units doesn’t make a brand unreliable .

  • @dragontrikic
    @dragontrikic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a same problems whit my r6. But it doesn't happend all the time, it's strange. Funny thing is after its overheats you can't record in video mod, but you can switch to any other mod press record and still have 29:59min...

  • @SidneyOkiyama
    @SidneyOkiyama 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the same problem. Firmware 1.6.0.

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  ปีที่แล้ว

      Was your camera shooting in crop mode or were you using an EF-S lens + Adapter?

    • @SidneyOkiyama
      @SidneyOkiyama ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SMBYopinion No crop mode. EF 24-70 2.8L with original Canon adapter.

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dang, not sure then. Sorry man. Like others have mentioned, seems to vary wildly in terms of performance from camera to camera

  • @181uplift3
    @181uplift3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mine never overheats. Must be a bad unit.

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I have concluded that the R6 is wildly inconsistent in terms of performance and is acceptable under Canon’s standards… :(

    • @TheArtisticPhotographycom
      @TheArtisticPhotographycom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good for you. I'd like to know what your settings are because I have two (2) R6 that are both overheating when set to Cropped Mode or 4K/30 or higher. You must be doing something right I want to know what your settings are? Thanks!

  • @jeannotpetit7403
    @jeannotpetit7403 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Dr Strange move with the Focus spell 😅

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha I was waiting for someone to notice :P

  • @xodius80
    @xodius80 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a professional photographer/videographer for events , it's pretty rare that the needs record for so long . I haven't had recording issues in my work 1080p 60fps. 4k is very dependant on ambient temperature, I did noticed that.

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree that it’s not something one has to do often but at times, the need for recordings longer than one hour is necessary, say if you’re recording a ceremony (not only for highlights) or if you’re live streaming. In these scenarios, I’m okay sacrificing resolution for longer record times but unfortunately that’s possible here. The bummer is even if I stop recording before it overheats, the recording time for my next clip reduces.

    • @mandofan2616
      @mandofan2616 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SMBYopinion How thgis camera is still priced so high with so many failure is incredible.

    • @TheArtisticPhotographycom
      @TheArtisticPhotographycom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      May & June is the season when most of these Dance Studios in my area (Upstate NY) have their Dance Recitals. These are the instances where you would shoot for hours continiously. Even smaller Dance Schools normally would take 2.5 hrs including their awards ceremony. Bigger schools about 3.5 hrs with a 15 min Intermission but usually 3 or 4 separate Shows each, sometimes on the same day or 2 different days. So if you shoot Dance Recitals, this is when you will be shooting for hours.
      I wasn't too worried that I couldn't shoot in 4K/30 because Canon R6 1080p videos are still great but when I had to use Cropped Mode using my 24-700 f/2.8 and it overheats, it is very disappointing especially that I WAS NOT even recording on the R6 because I was using a NinjaV HDMI recorder. What's up with that Canon?

  • @CodyScott
    @CodyScott 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just filmed for 12 hours in 4K and no overheating…..

    • @SMBYopinion
      @SMBYopinion  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow, did you have a workaround to cool the camera?

    • @CodyScott
      @CodyScott 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SMBYopinion No sir. I shoot responsibly.
      I don’t leave the camera running
      I ONLY turn the camera on if the shot is worth capturing and the light is perfect.
      I don’t shoot in 60fps more than a few times, (not good for storytelling)

    • @TheArtisticPhotographycom
      @TheArtisticPhotographycom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What 4K setting did u use? What i read was 4K/24 is OK but I usually don't use 24fps (23.96) . Try using shutter at 29.97 or higher and let us know.

    • @CodyScott
      @CodyScott 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheArtisticPhotographycom I used 60 fps and 24 fps

    • @TheArtisticPhotographycom
      @TheArtisticPhotographycom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CodyScott Are you turning off your R6 when not recording? because I am NOT recording on my R6 but it needs to be ON in order to record using my NinjaV when we shoot Dance Recitals that takes hours (2.5 - 3.5 hours long). If you leave your camera on with 4K/30/60 EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT RECORDING, I bet your camera will give you an overheat warning within an hour OR LESS.