Waves Soundgrid Server - Quick Look
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- A Quick look into the waves soundgrid servers and if they are of any use in smaller project studios. Rather than just on the live stage. More about it here - bit.ly/wavesimpact
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The way I see it…. You’ll be upgrading your computer or the sound grid server at some point anyway. Not to mention that interface are now coming with their on dsp. Now if the sound grid server comes with lifetime updates… then it would be totally worth it.
I have 96 Waves plugins thinking about getting the newer version
If you’re happy after their subscription fiasco and need the CPU offset. Good plan.
@@Unders Hated that fiasco and l won’t buy another of one their plugins but this might help.
Yo Bro I Ordered The SoundGrid Connect Horizon Combo Yesterday This is going to be a game Changer!!!!!!
We’ve come a long way since 4 years when this video was posted, the new m1 silicon macs are strong af and if you have a higher end apollo interface you can offload the UAD plugins off to that. But this def looks very nice 4 years ago. And I’ve learned that stock plugins can be his as strong as third party plugins, and I’ve gotten into some analog gear that digital plug ins cannot. Good review tho v
I actually have an Apollo, was even using it back then. These servers have also changed a lot too, smaller, silent. But yeah things like the M1 chip now can do so much its just insane.
@@Unders Still easy as hell to max out an M1 Pro so I’m looking at the upcoming Proton server ($849). Any chance of you doing a review on that???
@@babybrown4289 I hadn't planned on buying one. An waves ended their ambassador program so i doubt id be able to get a demo unit as such a small channel. But never say never.
Did you know you can build this type in studio grid gearsluts it’s a normal computer with software they got a hold of. My question is this how was the latency I used this and seem as if a lot of click and pops come through . What do you recommend and what did u use to patch could you tell me your patch window settings some say device to device others say input output.
Hi, thanks for the video. You mentioned third party plugs in the beginning but Never made it back to that subject - could you please confirm or disconfirm their use? Cheers snd thanks again!
Waves has a current list here - waves.alzt.net/0eXA3
Lots changed with soundgrid in the recent years and they improved any of the issues i came across on this review too. You can now get this power in a silent small form version for example which is awesome.
I have this it is supper load so I didn't use it. Now I have a travel studio might try to use it for mixing in my laptop that can't handle the plugins.
Have fun!
thank you for being normal and understandable
😂 you’re welcome
Hi Unders. How the latency works with SoundGrid Systems? If I load 100 plugins in an Extreme Soundgrid Server will I have 0.8 ms or maybe I will have 100 ms? I hope I am not abusing your knowledge. I think your video is very much appreciated.
Many are 0 latency. However some plugins may add say 1ms. Many are listed on the waves site.
@@Unders So lets say I could get more than 100 ms latency in a big session?
Great video brother. Have you been able to run far more Waves plugins (more plugins through out sessions) than before having the SoundGrid Impact Server?
yeah it can take a massive load off. think the most ive had is about 30-40 instances running. My biggest need is to move it into the cabinet though as it does get pretty loud. But because it ethernet it can be run up to 100meters away.
Unders Have you thought about opening it up to replace the fan(s) with quieter ones?
Unsure if it’s worth it tbh
Unders Shouldnt be too hard as it is constructed by basic computer components, upgrading the ram and CPU should be very easy, so fans should be a breeze.
Hi How Do I know what Soundgrid Server is good for me? wish to off load a few Abby Road Chambers H Reverbs etc?
The waves mobile - waves.alzt.net/EaJOx2
is probably the best at home solution as its noiseless (wasn't a thing when i made this video)
However if you have space the proton is a little cheaper but generates quite some noise when under a load. as it supports ethernet though you can offset it to a cupboard elsewhere if layout allows.
Great video Bro I was thinking 🤔 about getting one of these but wasn’t sure if I can use it and UAD on the same system, Have you had any problems running both of them?
They can run together - No problem
they run side by side absolutely fine.
Unders Ok Cool Thanks 🙏🏽 I’m getting one tomorrow 😉👍🏽
im not sure if my 10% code work on hardware but give it a try
Unders Aight cool thank Bro, I will try 🙏🏽
Can I bring this server into my studio to work with my Burl B80? I intend in buying the BMB4 SoundGrid module for the connectivity to my PC, But lately I was very interested how can I buy a server (to off-load my CPU/because of the plug-ins...) and to make it work into my system...! I know they have the DigiGrid iOS XL interface but I was really hoping to use my Burl instead of the I/O of IOS....- I need help please! Thank you.
Sorry dude I have no experience with the Burl gear. Best thing to do would be reach out here - www.waves.com/contact-us
Did u find a solution for your Burl set up ? i'm investigating the same issue now .
So you still need a computer for the daw, so if you have a powerful cpu like a i7, i9 quad core or a Xeon cpu with 6 cores or more you don’t need this. Plus plugins get updated all the time so if your don’t buy a new computer then eventually get left behind. Also you can also use a second computer to host studio rack and use the second computers cpu for more processing instead of this, then the daw your using on the first computer can use it’s own cpu. I like the concept of this sound grid but if you have a desktop and a laptop you can do the same thing and get more processing than this sound grid server.
"you can also use a second computer to host studio rack and use the second computers cpu for more processing instead of this"
There is no system I know of that can do this bar Linux.
There plenty of people who max out i7 also. I personally just freeze channels, Look at the likes of Jacob Collier though with his 500+ channel mix's
I think that the waves sound dsp server is a great product too, just that nowadays with more multi-core processing than ever before and also faster ssd storage and faster ram, cpu overloads are far less common. And the other reason was that eventually waves, just like every other company ends up updating the plugin versions for new operating systems and then eventually older computers get left behind due to not being supported anymore. So you are forced to eventually upgrade your computer anyway. Trust me I have been through this myself and at one point was considering the sound dsp server myself.
But you can technically offload processing to another Mac, not sure about windows but I have heard that windows have server networking also, just not sure if they allow it to be used in the same way as Mac do with midi network sharing which carries midi data and can do audio also. “I route audio over adat anyway”
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Also third option is a audio interface which has onboard dsp for plugin processing also but only thing is that these big brand companies need to give more third party support for each other then audio customers and businesses will reap the benefits but they keep you locked into their own plugin collections. Maybe this is slowly changing but I want a device that can do it all across the board then I would say that it is a worthy investment for those types of prices.
By all means, I would say someone who has already built up a massive waves collection,or has platinum or mercury bundle and needs more plugin dsp offload and they are happy to not upgrade computer then they should definitely go for this option. It is a great option. I couldn’t go this option simply due to being a business and need to keep up with current industry trends and support.
@@Unders I just came across some info the other day supporting this argument.
If it were possible with waves soundgrid firmware, would do be up for a system build and video?
Hello mate I have been looking for a similar type of solution but I have some questions. Which equipment will I need I.e. is it simply a sound grid box and Ethernet cable ? Can you chain boxes together? What's the most powerful box available will my previous wave licences work ? How loud is the sound from the server , I.e. can you mix with it running while in the same room ?
Noise is like a PC running at full all the time. You can use a 100 meter Ethernet cable with it an have it elsewhere. Licenses need to be v9 to work on most recent systems.
Yes it’s possible to run multiple servers but not something I’ve been able to test out
So can’t I just buy a better pc for the same price? Or is it something they’ve encoded in it?
+Jhames Almeda unless you’re on a very old system the money spent wouldn’t give you the same “but very specific” performance boost.
Plus zero latency and the fact you have multiple servers if needed
Maybe I missed it but what audio interface are you using?
UAD Apollo Twin
@@Unders Im assuming the thunderbolt version? Or USB?
Hay a Big Question How Did You get The Studio Rack To Recognize The Waves Plugins I'm Using Cubase 9.5 and i Have Waves Plugins installed and They Show up in My Cubase Vst List But When i Put The Studio Rack Plugin in The Insert of Cubase open up studio Rack and Go To Add Plugin / Plug-in List it Says No Plugins Available How Did You get Your Plugins To Show Up in the Studio Rack List Thanks Man P.S Waves is Not Hepful at all
hey dude. So have you gone into Waves central in reinstalled the plugins? the studio rack version are a slightly different format and you need to have installed the them.
Secondly you need to launch studio rack stand alone (the little icon i have up in the top right) you need to set the right plugin location up in that first before going to DAW.
Unders okay thanks I thought there were both versions in the Mercury bundle I thought there was VST and soundgrid versions I didn't know you had to install them separately thank you
Unders and when do you say I need to open the stand-alone Studio rack version do you mean soundgrid Studio because I could not find a stand-alone that just says the studio rack thanks
there a program called "soundgrid studio" you need to launch an set up before.
Can PCIe cards be added to these servers and/or NVME cards?
They are not reconfigurable AFAIK
Do you still have the waves impact server?
Why?
@@Unders because I do have mine but has been a problem with the asio drivers with different devices
Like the focusrite 18i20 version 2
Also I really hate how noisy it is
Do you know if is possible to upgrade the fans?
Thanks anyway
Unfortunately these units are noisy, there’s not a way to reduce it that I’m aware of unfortunately.
I don’t know how to help with ASIO I’ve been on Mac now for years. You can get waves to phone you up and talk you through issues though.
Unders thank you so much for your response. I tried everything you just suggested me already I spent countless hours with them at the phone and also they tried to fix the problem by connecting remotely to my pc . I solved the problem by using my ElevenRack as a audio interface...not ideal for me but anyway I mostly use waves and universal audio plugins I am fine now
Unders they noise I will take your suggestions and find a place away from my studio room thanks alot
This is a very informative video. It's a shame that it's so hard to hear what's being said through the totally unnecessary music track. Drop the music track 6db and re-post please.
Does it only work with waves plugins?
All waves soundgrid and everything here - waves.alzt.net/0eXA3
I'll build a custom DSP Server - save money for other hardwares
Okay. But not how this works 👍
@@Unders $1000 is too much expensive with me, may be 'us' ! I'm in love with music, spending my money for some audio devices, dj equipments... but, i don't earning too much monthly :( but loading that waves's linux code on my old i7 workstation laptop, i have a better performance SoundGrid server
@@modb644 How is this possible with the waves' Linux code? please teach me
@@modb644 hey MOD B' Can I get any info on compiling the linxu code ?
Appreciate the vid. Your background music is distracting/loud to the point that it gets in the way of being able to understand you
Sure, Thanks for the feedback.
The foreground music needs to become the background music... Stupidly distracting.
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how did u ask 4 it really intrigeed and could help me out no cash ahahah
Its stupid to buy such an expensive piece of hardware just because its named "waves" why cant we just make a server ourselves?
Go for it. If its stupid to pay for a server to do this im 100% behind you creating a new solution.
Unders a server worth 400euro of components and their asking double the price..
Ok so build a solution then. I mean if you understand how to have custom software written and get 0 latency performance. Seriously go make them an sell them to people
What OS does it use? How are you routing the audio through it when you write the OS? When you write the code and come up with a better solution to do this, Ill buy your server.