Ngl, Leo is the reason why I main joker, hope to see him grind the character again. But I also play byleth, and I understand why he’s playing him, he’s fun as hell
Stuff like 6:47 is why I think Pika needs nerfing straight to hell. What are you supposed to do when he can use 3 long last hitboxes in the space of 3 seconds that have zero start up and zero end-lag?
Pikachu main here, trying to give informative MU knowledge and counterplay: Its a common set up, read a jump out of shield with fair and then fall with nair because the opponent thinks he’s safe to drop shield or jump because he whiffed. Counterplay is just keep holding shield or roll in. Roll in is actually pretty safe in this situation since pikachu won’t have much that he can follow up with and anything he can won’t kill you. Holding shield might actually be riskier since nair can shield poke. Of course don’t roll in preemptively, react to the fair above your shield and youre good. But yea, its a pretty annoying set up. One way to actually punish it is knowing this is a common set up and uair him, timing it as he goes into the high fair. This is a commital option tho and can be baited, and if you have a tjolt coming your way then you’ll have to deal with that too Honestly, MKLeo doesn’t seem very familiar with the MU and fell for a lot of easy common Pikachu stuff like the last clip of the last game which is not true on di out. Someone with more knowledge on the MU will probably be able to avoid the nonsense Pikachu can get so I wouldn’t say these are the most broken things about him That being said, I don’t think it’s as nasty a set up as other ledge trapping characters so this isn’t a specificly necessary change to Pikachu. If anything should be nerfed is his tininess and pancaking since it literally changes how people play vs you since youre so small.
Leo is incredibly talented and deserves to be the number 1 player in grands but man…………. Kola whiffing the set winning f-smash really does hurt my soul
The commentators in the set vs Kain kept taking about how Byleth was one of the few characters who outranged Belmonts and it was so annoying because literally none of Byleth's weapons have near the range or speed of the whip.
Its funny, I was watching the stream and there was this one guy saying that Leo was carried by Byleth, like unironically saying Byleth is the most broken character in any fighting game EVER MADE, and that despite getting 2nd hes somehow washed. Like have we been playing the same game and watching the same matches??? GGs all around
Leo is a beast, as soon as offline tournaments returned he resumed kicking everyone's asses and getting either 1st or 2nd places in every single tournament. What a chad!
i love how theatrical esam is. he always makes sure to pop off toward the crowd for the best camera angles and awknowledges on cam with his hands when he gets bodied
Esam was on FIRE All tournament. I truly believe even on form he would’ve lost. Esam knew everything that going to happen. You can tell his practice paid off
As a mostly Melee guy it's a joy watching characters and players that excel offstage, like ESAM and Leo. Edgeguarding is one of the best things in Smash imo but it's rare to see recoveries contested in Ult for some reason
Also so boring due to how slow it is but also so fun due to the tension that 2 players who both can be extremely explosive are sitting back waiting on the other
Easier said than done. Charge shot is a fast projectile unless you read every move your oponent makes, you cant really rely on using rebel's guard against charge shot. Too much big risk.
Gj on 2nd and Glitch Leo, It’s incredible how u can get either 1st or 2nd the consistency looking very nice 👌. I think the option vs pika could be continuing to warm up the joker since it will be hard but it looks doable and maybe aegis as well yes aegis loses but she can do decent sometimes and is warmer than the joker rn plus she just a good char. Byleth v Pika is really awful tho even worse than I was expecting (mu wise of course)
@@MotivatedStudent2000 who are most people? Lots of people like xenoblade and they're one of the few dlcs that isn't a zoner or camper, I think they're a super good addition compared to a lot of other dlcs
I remember watching dialga with that boy that plays with shotos and everyone was like "omg, amazing dialga, top 10" and I told them that all he did was side B, I got tons of comments telling me how I was wrong and here, Leo destroyed him lmao because of that.
Yo you were so clean and to see the joker make an appearance was so cool to see. Sad that you lost to Esam but next time you'll show him whats on the up and up. *MK B META* a d Bonk was cracked that tournament as well
Hey Leo, do you think the Pikachu/Byleth matchup is just too bad, or do you think with some deep studying, it would be possible like with the Tweek-Diddy run back at Riptide? Love watching your Byleth and it was so shocking and surprising the difference from Summit to Riptide. Good luck on the next one!
The performance of ESAM in the tournament was just the result of thousands of practicing hours on the modded training room (literally a training time of 18 months). It's just like the guy in college you know is gonna get a perfect score in a test just for overstudying. I'm not praising the guy at all it's just that his obsessive behavior to know every single technical aspect of the game is scary and his run in the tournament proves it.
@@willycheez7218 You are right. It was just the heat of grand finals because I was rooting for Leo, but this shows that ESAM is and has always been an amazing player.
They didn't pop because esam is using a Pikachu. They know he would win against Byleth. The speed difference and combo game for Pikachu is just so easy to master. Byleth is harder to master and when MkLeo used his Joker it was a closer game but he was being rusty. Also the last match Leo was playing it just seem like he wasn't having fun like he was in some of the other matches.
Question for you, Mr. Leo: A lot of people have been saying that ESAM was like “the protagonist” of this tournament, and I kind of have to agree after the crazy work he was putting in both before and during the tournament. Do you think he’s going to be a threat that you look out for going forward, or was this just one of those “sometimes you lose 🤷♂️” situations?
Leo really out here playing the game for fun, picking characters he thinks are fun playing and never being a meta slave (not that theres anything wrong with that, its a competition). Favorite player since smash 4!
@@jimmyvasquez5298 A... character he enjoyed playing? A character he probably still enjoys playing to a degree, but i think he's getting burnt out of the character, and wants to play characters he enjoys more.
@@brugbug165 Leo would 100% be considered top tier without Leo. Leo playing Joker doesn't make his back air kill at 70 with Arsene, that's just the character.
im really glad he put up a good fight this time though. its nice to see that he isnt completely helpless against his bracket demon, and if im being real here, im rooting for the man to even take a set from leo someday. ...come to think of it, theres quite a few people who id like to see take a set off leo someday lol. leos accumulated so many rivalries on his rise to being the undisputed GOAT of ultimate
No sé si darle "me gusta" a un video donde no quedas campeón 🥲😅bromi, Leo eres mucha verga! GGs! Exito en el próximo torneo, ya vendrán los nerf a Pikachu 😅 💪🇲🇽
hey leo, you released this video on my bday lol, ill take it as a really good gift (: can i get a happy birthday please? i love watching ur vids and u inspire me to be a good player [:
Joker still rusty but no doubt Esam wouldn't have won if Joker was 💯 Great Job Champ! Joker will be back on top as long as Leo brings him back more often.
Honestly thank god Leo doesnt only use joker because if he did only a couple people would ever even get a game off of him but because he plays byleth some people are given at least a small glimmer of hope
Well, at least esam showed you that doesn't matter how good you're, if you use a mid tier against the best character in the game, you'll lose, hope you start grinding joker again.
Except Leo has won many times using Byleth against top tier characters. Except I think Leo would rather play characters they have more fun with. And I think your putting too much weight on tier lists in a game as closely balanced as smash ulti.
@@owen9456 we all know leo is a beast with byleth, but if he WANTS to still be the number 1, he must play joker, as easy as that, byleth will never win to pikachu.
@@MrAnca Perhaps. I chalk a lot of it up to ESAM grinding super hard as of late. I also don't think Leo wants to sacrifice his fun though to win anymore, I think he just wants to be the best he can be at what he enjoys playing. I think that's 100% ok.
@@owen9456 yeah and that's respectable aswell, if he doesn't want to be the number 1 player anymore and just wants to have fun it's ok, I know we all would still support him, but since he hasn't said anything we can just assume he still wants to keep the throne.
@@zanyskeleton5291 as a joker player I can confirm that the pika matchup is one of his most questionable, idk about byleth tho. I would have went aegis but I’m not the best player in the world so what do I know
Esam’s fken trash bruh…. I stg. This is one of those cases where the person didn’t win, the other person just lost. Esam didn’t deserve this win leo just lost to bad matchup. When his current main (byleth) was struggling he went to his old maim (joker) which at this time is RUSTY!!!! This was literally a case of esam didnt win, leo just lost. Idc what anyone tries to tell me this is my opinion. And before anyone says im just a salty leo fan thats not true. When leo lost to tweek i thought it was a deserved win. This, i dont think this was a deserved win for esam. But congrats to him anyways.
23:16 "If he had any hair, it would've been blown back." This commentator needs a fucking raise
Coney has been one of the best in the business for years
I love how Esam reacts so much when he loses a stock
Such a clown
Ngl, Leo is the reason why I main joker, hope to see him grind the character again. But I also play byleth, and I understand why he’s playing him, he’s fun as hell
Same. I only play Pika so ESAM can notice me and marry me and give me a green card
@Can’t Find Me I wouldn’t go that far, just admire him. Plus I’m Mexican too, so I have some pride there cheering for him
@Can’t Find Me wat a nerd
Said every joker main ever
Couldn't agree more. MkLeo's Joker is inspirational
Mkleo when they make Persona 5 Arena: “awwww shit”
*Destroys everyone in a traditional fighter because he plays joker*
Your "rusty" Joker is still a masterpiece. Wish you would play him more.
its not rusty
@@jimmyvasquez5298 that's why I used quotes...
@@scallopy7546 mb, didnt see the qoutations, glad im wrong
Not rusty??? He’s jokes MAD rusty. You can tell right away it’s not the same joker from pre-quarantine
@@marlon1945 yea marlon. you are the the best player in the world, we all know it :)
Stuff like 6:47 is why I think Pika needs nerfing straight to hell. What are you supposed to do when he can use 3 long last hitboxes in the space of 3 seconds that have zero start up and zero end-lag?
Pikachu main here, trying to give informative MU knowledge and counterplay:
Its a common set up, read a jump out of shield with fair and then fall with nair because the opponent thinks he’s safe to drop shield or jump because he whiffed. Counterplay is just keep holding shield or roll in. Roll in is actually pretty safe in this situation since pikachu won’t have much that he can follow up with and anything he can won’t kill you. Holding shield might actually be riskier since nair can shield poke. Of course don’t roll in preemptively, react to the fair above your shield and youre good. But yea, its a pretty annoying set up.
One way to actually punish it is knowing this is a common set up and uair him, timing it as he goes into the high fair. This is a commital option tho and can be baited, and if you have a tjolt coming your way then you’ll have to deal with that too
Honestly, MKLeo doesn’t seem very familiar with the MU and fell for a lot of easy common Pikachu stuff like the last clip of the last game which is not true on di out. Someone with more knowledge on the MU will probably be able to avoid the nonsense Pikachu can get so I wouldn’t say these are the most broken things about him
That being said, I don’t think it’s as nasty a set up as other ledge trapping characters so this isn’t a specificly necessary change to Pikachu. If anything should be nerfed is his tininess and pancaking since it literally changes how people play vs you since youre so small.
GGs you and Esam played out of your minds it was so fun to watch keep on improving!
No he Just played pickachu advantage state wich is unfair
Wish Mk actually talked about using Joker again
Who calls him mk
Literally impossible. Metaknight only uses himself
@@julius333333 Enter Leo picking up Game N Watch a little just to make Esam obsolete. 🤣 Kidding. Watch isn't his style.
@@julius333333 if that was the case he wouldn't have used joker on min min and olimar. Olimar makes more sense but min min? Byleth could've done that
That new intro is sick! Glad to see you using Joker this event 👌
Leo is incredibly talented and deserves to be the number 1 player in grands but man………….
Kola whiffing the set winning f-smash really does hurt my soul
The f-smash missed, but the f-air right after should have hit
Kola has been so unlucky in glitch and summit. The game owes him one.
@@bunionl382 That's just a case of animation not matching the actual hitboxes. It sucks, but it worked as intended.
yall acting like mkleo was gonna get hit by an f smash, the most predictable move ever
@@jimmyvasquez5298 Well the f smash was technically guaranteed since kola read his roll out
Every time I see that intro with Leo holding that trophy with tweeks face in the background I laugh at how savage Leo is
The commentators in the set vs Kain kept taking about how Byleth was one of the few characters who outranged Belmonts and it was so annoying because literally none of Byleth's weapons have near the range or speed of the whip.
Its funny, I was watching the stream and there was this one guy saying that Leo was carried by Byleth, like unironically saying Byleth is the most broken character in any fighting game EVER MADE, and that despite getting 2nd hes somehow washed. Like have we been playing the same game and watching the same matches???
GGs all around
That's a meme for any player
honestly, leo is really talented, no one can definitively say hes not the best player still
exactly. once a player places second at MINIMUM every tournament for a YEAR, then they can be called the best. until then leo remains.
Twitch chat is always like that, I just wouldn't read it
@@missing6747 That sentiment isn't restricted to Twitch chat unfortunately.
2:18 "how the turns have tabled for sure"
I can't help but think that if Leo had practiced more his Joker he would have beaten ESAM
Oh definitely but it is what it is
i think he got over confident, he had already won that set , but then he just...
I mean i think that can be said about anyone
Easily
Yeah but Esam deserved that win. He outplayed Leo pretty easily
Hey Leo, great tournament. Hope to see you hit the lab and come back with strats to put ESam in a rat trap.
The cheese cake
I like that he shows even his loss
There were some insane plays this tournament and a good amount of them are in this video
That up B into back air is so damn clean every time
Leo is a beast, as soon as offline tournaments returned he resumed kicking everyone's asses and getting either 1st or 2nd places in every single tournament. What a chad!
Winners is the warmup games, Losers is where he's serious.
Leo Ur so Humble man...not a lot of ppl would highlight their loss at a Tournament..props bruh! 👍👌
i love how theatrical esam is. he always makes sure to pop off toward the crowd for the best camera angles and awknowledges on cam with his hands when he gets bodied
Leo never misses with intros
Love how Leo has to edit in the smash logo over Samsoras head in the outro.. LOL
Much love leo u played great at glitch
Leo is like the fénix, never give up. He lose and win eventually. Great combats.
Esam was on FIRE All tournament. I truly believe even on form he would’ve lost. Esam knew everything that going to happen. You can tell his practice paid off
As a mostly Melee guy it's a joy watching characters and players that excel offstage, like ESAM and Leo. Edgeguarding is one of the best things in Smash imo but it's rare to see recoveries contested in Ult for some reason
I love how Leo was coming through with the panic lylat
You cosplaying joker its so iconic its hilarious xD
You vs Esam looked like what peak competitive is like. Both playing so patiently knowing 1 mistake will most likely cause you to lose the game
Also so boring due to how slow it is but also so fun due to the tension that 2 players who both can be extremely explosive are sitting back waiting on the other
Btw for the joker mains I think every charge shot move gives u free arsene if u use rebels guard
Easier said than done. Charge shot is a fast projectile unless you read every move your oponent makes, you cant really rely on using rebel's guard against charge shot. Too much big risk.
Gj on 2nd and Glitch Leo, It’s incredible how u can get either 1st or 2nd the consistency looking very nice 👌. I think the option vs pika could be continuing to warm up the joker since it will be hard but it looks doable and maybe aegis as well yes aegis loses but she can do decent sometimes and is warmer than the joker rn plus she just a good char. Byleth v Pika is really awful tho even worse than I was expecting (mu wise of course)
@@MotivatedStudent2000 who are most people? Lots of people like xenoblade and they're one of the few dlcs that isn't a zoner or camper, I think they're a super good addition compared to a lot of other dlcs
@@MotivatedStudent2000 Joker and Byleth are DLC
@@MotivatedStudent2000 aint to late to delete that comment
@Tyler Davis i’d rather hate on minmin 😅
That’s toxic gameplay, like sonic.
Aegis is very interactive, so they cant be too hated on
@@doge8153 And? They're still really good DLC? Why you gotta mention them when responding to a troll?
Thumbnail's Joker's back, First clip is Byleth.
I remember watching dialga with that boy that plays with shotos and everyone was like "omg, amazing dialga, top 10" and I told them that all he did was side B, I got tons of comments telling me how I was wrong and here, Leo destroyed him lmao because of that.
don't worry guys, is all part of the plot, after this it's his training arc then his victory will be more dramatic
Yo you were so clean and to see the joker make an appearance was so cool to see. Sad that you lost to Esam but next time you'll show him whats on the up and up. *MK B META* a d Bonk was cracked that tournament as well
Hey Leo, do you think the Pikachu/Byleth matchup is just too bad, or do you think with some deep studying, it would be possible like with the Tweek-Diddy run back at Riptide? Love watching your Byleth and it was so shocking and surprising the difference from Summit to Riptide. Good luck on the next one!
Coming from an esam fan, that 0 to death combo at the end thoooo
Hey that’s my guy
The performance of ESAM in the tournament was just the result of thousands of practicing hours on the modded training room (literally a training time of 18 months). It's just like the guy in college you know is gonna get a perfect score in a test just for overstudying. I'm not praising the guy at all it's just that his obsessive behavior to know every single technical aspect of the game is scary and his run in the tournament proves it.
You should praise the guy though it's dedication
@@willycheez7218 You are right. It was just the heat of grand finals because I was rooting for Leo, but this shows that ESAM is and has always been an amazing player.
Mkleo is one of those anime moe characters that talks about himself in third person
Is Ike coming back too? :(
Sick intro 👌
Grands had some of the most insane reads I’ve ever seen
Lehs Gooo Esammm!!
the one dislike was someone who didn’t finally play joker in a tournament
Drag down forward air….. Since when?
What if you wanted to play Joker, but Pikachu said: WWAAIIRRRR
My god his intro is godlike
Yo who is that commentator? 👀
「きのこ」
This mean is mushroom.
Hell of a run, ggs
Niiiice
You’re still the best mkleo 💙
They didn't pop because esam is using a Pikachu. They know he would win against Byleth. The speed difference and combo game for Pikachu is just so easy to master. Byleth is harder to master and when MkLeo used his Joker it was a closer game but he was being rusty. Also the last match Leo was playing it just seem like he wasn't having fun like he was in some of the other matches.
Neat intro
You’re awesome Leo
Question for you, Mr. Leo: A lot of people have been saying that ESAM was like “the protagonist” of this tournament, and I kind of have to agree after the crazy work he was putting in both before and during the tournament. Do you think he’s going to be a threat that you look out for going forward, or was this just one of those “sometimes you lose 🤷♂️” situations?
But Pikachu BUSTED!!!
Leo really out here playing the game for fun, picking characters he thinks are fun playing and never being a meta slave (not that theres anything wrong with that, its a competition). Favorite player since smash 4!
what do you call joker bruh
@@jimmyvasquez5298 A... character he enjoyed playing? A character he probably still enjoys playing to a degree, but i think he's getting burnt out of the character, and wants to play characters he enjoys more.
@@jimmyvasquez5298 The only reason Joker is considered so high tier is because of Leo. Name another Joker that gets results like he does
@@brugbug165 Leo would 100% be considered top tier without Leo. Leo playing Joker doesn't make his back air kill at 70 with Arsene, that's just the character.
@@brugbug165 nobody gets results like leo does, because nobody is leo, but take a look at sharp's and zackray's jokers.
Yet again Maister gets abused by Leo for the 12th time in a row.
im really glad he put up a good fight this time though. its nice to see that he isnt completely helpless against his bracket demon, and if im being real here, im rooting for the man to even take a set from leo someday.
...come to think of it, theres quite a few people who id like to see take a set off leo someday lol. leos accumulated so many rivalries on his rise to being the undisputed GOAT of ultimate
Beautiful thumbnail
Holy shit tweek is right mkleo is the best luckiest player and the luckiest best player, sheesh
No sé si darle "me gusta" a un video donde no quedas campeón 🥲😅bromi, Leo eres mucha verga! GGs! Exito en el próximo torneo, ya vendrán los nerf a Pikachu 😅 💪🇲🇽
I can’t wait for Leo to destroy the next tournament bruh
Wait wat? No win xdd bad ending 💔
MkLeo's Joker is now clickbait tier :(
That was a good run
God shit though man!
Hope leo finds a rat counter pick. I hate that stupid rat. Most aerials just won't work because why not?!
Gg leo
hey leo, you released this video on my bday lol, ill take it as a really good gift (: can i get a happy birthday please? i love watching ur vids and u inspire me to be a good player [:
belated hbd yo 🎉
And he won the bald that BM does
Yuh
ESAM god clinch mode: activate.
Beatiful sets though MK! Always a marvel to behold every set, if not every round
Joker still rusty but no doubt Esam wouldn't have won if Joker was 💯 Great Job Champ! Joker will be back on top as long as Leo brings him back more often.
Woah. Lylat is good for Byleth!
one of their best stages
Hello
Yoo
He played joker and he lost
Yessir
Tile mk Leo played joker 90 Percent of his matches bayleth Mk knows that bayleht doesn’t get as many views as joker lol
Your byleth is ok but I really enjoy watching your joker. You were a little rusty with him but that was still hype af.
Honestly thank god Leo doesnt only use joker because if he did only a couple people would ever even get a game off of him but because he plays byleth some people are given at least a small glimmer of hope
Well, at least esam showed you that doesn't matter how good you're, if you use a mid tier against the best character in the game, you'll lose, hope you start grinding joker again.
Except Leo has won many times using Byleth against top tier characters.
Except I think Leo would rather play characters they have more fun with.
And I think your putting too much weight on tier lists in a game as closely balanced as smash ulti.
@@owen9456 we all know leo is a beast with byleth, but if he WANTS to still be the number 1, he must play joker, as easy as that, byleth will never win to pikachu.
@@MrAnca Perhaps. I chalk a lot of it up to ESAM grinding super hard as of late. I also don't think Leo wants to sacrifice his fun though to win anymore, I think he just wants to be the best he can be at what he enjoys playing. I think that's 100% ok.
@@owen9456 yeah and that's respectable aswell, if he doesn't want to be the number 1 player anymore and just wants to have fun it's ok, I know we all would still support him, but since he hasn't said anything we can just assume he still wants to keep the throne.
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Yes, but a rusty Joker. Keep it together!
I hate this esam plays broken ass pikachu wins nutreal once and wins the game for it this was so sad to watch
I know u can kick esam butt easy, u re the #1
I personally think you should’ve stayed byleth against esam.
Finally someone who thinks the same!
Imo i think byleth would get danced on but idk, i dont play byleth, joker or pika
@@zanyskeleton5291 as a joker player I can confirm that the pika matchup is one of his most questionable, idk about byleth tho. I would have went aegis but I’m not the best player in the world so what do I know
pika beats all his characters, but joker is the least bad. (at least as far as i know)
No
Yeah u need to play more joker
Esam’s fken trash bruh…. I stg. This is one of those cases where the person didn’t win, the other person just lost. Esam didn’t deserve this win leo just lost to bad matchup. When his current main (byleth) was struggling he went to his old maim (joker) which at this time is RUSTY!!!! This was literally a case of esam didnt win, leo just lost. Idc what anyone tries to tell me this is my opinion. And before anyone says im just a salty leo fan thats not true. When leo lost to tweek i thought it was a deserved win. This, i dont think this was a deserved win for esam. But congrats to him anyways.
Primero 😎
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“Translated by google”
intro is kinda wack don’t use it again
You are talking bs right there
@@tautaril2320 facts intro fire
Nah its a good intro
@@zanyskeleton5291 facts
I like the intro but whatever
Pink fresh is SO gOOd aT tHAt
No hes carried af
ESAM is so boooorin to watch