The Mystery of Beauty
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In this talk delivered to the Graduate Christian Fellowship at Cornell University, I discuss the nature of beauty and out encounters with it in ordinary experience. I then lead to the need for eternal beauty which is found in Christ.
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One part of Scripture that always leads me to think about this subject in particular, is when Adam first saw Eve. He was so astounded at Eve's beauty, that he gave out what we could see as one of the first lines of poetry and or song. "Bone of my bone, and the flesh of my flesh." I am glad to see that I am not crazy in thinking about the beauty as something divinely given 😂
I didn't have "Dr. Cooper talking about watching bad kung fu movies" on my bingo card today, but here we are.
Haha. I knew when the word "beauty" was brought up, Kant's name was just around the corner.
I just keep it idealistic on the notion of a conceptual beauty - be it of Platonism or something else. I've never been the sort to be impressed by natural beauty, and that may just be my disposition.
Enjoyed the video, man!
This talk will make a fine addition to my collection ... ... of videos on beauty. 30:43 - 31:40 is probably the highlight of this topic. Thanks for sharing. I always enjoy these.
Romantics like Keats say that beauty is truth, truth beauty.
Nothing leads us to Christ but the Gospel. Beauty shows us only that there is a God. If art was not available still the beauty of creation points to the creator . So I can’t believe that Music is the greatest gift that God gave us. That is found in the actual creation made by God, not man made . That is only an imitation of our Creator. That is our Music , art , or anything else we do. No matter what we do . I think we as a people fall in to a trap of praising the showy over the mundane .
Agreed. That’s Romans 1:18-23 friend. God is outside of His creation. Lots of pantheistic sentiments in this comment section.
Honestly the theology of beauty is one that has long intrigued me.
It seems blatantly clear to me that there are things that are divinely beautiful, and things that are infernally ugly, but that discerning which are which is of paramount importance before trying to base any decisions on them.
After all, there are many foul things that dress fairly to the senses, in order to contaminate things of true beauty, and corrupt good God-given gifts to evil ends.
But scripture is remarkably quiet on the subject, at least in the most explicit senses. Perhaps because it's not something that can be expressed explicitly.
Leaving a comment for the algorithm. Great video as always.
Beautiful. :)
I think it was Chesterton that said that music with dinner is an insult to both the chef and the violinist.
Beauty = God, God = Beauty. So it follows by definition that Beauty leads to God. "Beautiful Things", however, are just part of some artistic school's metanarrative on aesthetics, which, as good Postmodernists, we must reject. On a related note, I'm reminded of a quote from Marvin Minsky concerning "Mathematical Theorems" (a close analogue of "Beautiful Things", insofar as Beauty = God = Truth, and "Mathematical Theorems" are supposed to encapsulate truth, per metanarratives). Minsky basically said, "If you prove some 'great theorem' you should be ashamed of it, not proud", and that we should welcome it being shown wrong, that way it regains "life" and "gives us something to do reworking it". Beloved Minsky, our Process Theologian!
Classical ideas of beauty are based in the sacred which lead to truth whereas postmodernism values prefer intensity. Pleasure isn't always beautiful, contemporary aesthetics point towards distortion and the absence of God.
1 John 2:15-17 (ESV) 15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world--the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride of life--is not from the Father but is from the world. 17 And the world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever.
I think this text is pretty clearly not speaking about natural wonders and beauty, but about money, greed, lust, power, etc as referred to in the second half of the quote.
@@charliecampbell6851 Exactly. Evangelicals with their contemporary modern churches and electric guitars on stage have disgustingly misused Scripture to justify their lack of reverence in worship.
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The asymmetry of sola fide is what drove me to the beauty of Catholicism.
@@Catholic-Perennialist I haven't read too much of the Bible tbh, and I'm not a theologian, so take my word with a grain of salt; but the sorta "works toward salvation", does that apply to everyone or only those who are capable? I knew a woman who was beaten so severely by her ex husband that she couldn't even make a sandwich properly let alone make a conscious decision to act in a Christian way. But I talked to her sometimes, and she had the faith of a child - messed up and contorted though she was. Would you say that she will not enter the kingdom of Heaven on these grounds? If her faith alone isn't enough, what hope does she have?
@@scoutdarpy4465 Theology, just like legislation, is never safely founded on the exceptional case.
@@Catholic-Perennialist That is true. I just hope this exceptional case will live in Heaven. She used to tell me how excited she was to go. Haha. But that's getting too sentimental for these convos. Forgive me, lol.
@@scoutdarpy4465 my $0.02 as a quasi-heretical Catholic (ie, I have a few unconventional views, but have never been hauled before the Inquisition), God's nature is to create, and he does this in a sort of never-ending way, with all sorts of hills and valleys, rather than to wave a wand and suddenly make everything perfect, complete, and timeless. We see this reflected in the rise and fall of civilizations, and even in the ongoing evolution of life in general. We cannot say what will come of someone whose intellect has been altogether obliterated, but if "faith" (especially in any doctrinal sense) were the one and only yay-or-nay deciding factor in whether God will continue the creative process with a human being or discard him altogether, we all might as well kiss goodbye countless souls we've known and loved throughout the years, right here and now
Not relevant to the video, but ok.