Anyone who thinks numi is "blowing things out of proportion" are apart of the problem. Numi is absolutely in the right for bringing attention to this. Even if clickbait has been a big part of TH-cam when the clickbait is literally just taking a clip adding terrible subtitles and ai generated thumbnails that ruins things for clippers. Clippers are a big part of the streaming community as we all know by now and all it takes is a few rotten apples to spoil the whole bunch. Taking clips and uploading them is perfectly fine but once you add in the clickbait titles, clickbait thumbnail, and the terrible subtitles you risk ruining a streamer's image. Able is one of my favorite clippers because they dont do anything to ruin a streamer's image. To all clippers that arent weird keep doing great
true in fact being a coward and not speaking out is more dangerous long term because instead of creating a precedent of working with clippers to fix the issue it just creates tension which will lead to worse drama down the line
It bad, its clickbaity, and and those stuff will make the streamer uncomfortable, but Tarnish her image? i mean come on guys lets be real, those kind of clickbait is so exaggerated to a point everyone would know its satire. it wouldnt ruin her image in the slightest, since such clickbait stuff are overused on everybody, everyone would know its just bait. we need to accept that no matter what she did, she can never delete the clickbait culture, and at the same time, it wouldnt ruin her image, in the slightest.
@@FBI_Notyou can never be too sure There are a lot, and I mean a lot, of people out there who don’t understand satire and take everything at face value
@@long_dennis and these people are a minority that will not affect the majority. Quoting the guy below, it has been happening since the dawn of youtube, and the internet has thought us normal humans to not take things at face value, which is the majority of people that made her succeed. Will it stop? No. Will it destroy her career? A bigger No. All she can do now is just to ignore stupid clickbaits and just enjoy the algorithm making her famous. Ride the wave, its both smooth and bumpy
“This stream is so quiet”. Forgets/doesn’t know you have to leave space for the AI’s to respond. Numi was actually really good at quickly finding the conversational rhythm with the two of them-which was different then just one Neuro.
Look at her original video - this is not about fans being appropriate or unapprooriate, these are regular scammers spamming for profit, not caring about the community
Seen a few of these clickbates around recently, Not a fan personally never have liked clickbate, which i imagine most people are in the same boat for. Most the time i click on a video if its not what it says or its misleading i'll go watch something better. certain clippers do it cause it helps some do it to jump on a bandwagon of greed. That being said even some of the more trusted ones (IMO) recently have left some not so true videos/titles. sort it out guys you are there as the support not the main act. that being said we appreciate your work, those of you who do it for the love of the fandom.
Yeah, clippers kinda follow each others' trends (mostly because there's new clippers everyday). So, if channels like these bot ones go unchecked, clippers will tend to follow the trend and start posting more clickbait/horni themed clips. But *even then* **USUALLY** at least they'll actually say it in the clip...
Lots of victim blaming going on here in the comments. I bet none of them actually watch Numi or other VTubers. Just a bunch of chronically online losers that need to give their opinion about everything because no one actually gives a shit about their opinions irl.
3:22 Fillan does have a point here, the main reasons there can be so many clickbait videos of Numi is because of how she acts on stream, if they tried to do this with people like Dokibirds or Chibidiki the video will not get that many clicks.
1. Not what she's saying here. 2. People do do that all the time with filian. 3. Numi isn't talking about clickbait, she's talking about clip farmers that use ai generated subtitles with broken english in the titles and thumbnails that just make up lies and how much she wants this to stop because it makes her uncomfortable and feels like it reflects poorly on her image. 4. If you're gonna make a gooner clip of Numi, there are plenty of actual clips you can use instead of just straight-up lying. 5. She doesn't do it all the time and if you think she does then you don't watch her enough. 6. How someone may act on stream is not an inherent excuse or invitation for this kind of behavior to begin with.
@@NoName-ns6xr I don't think you understand what I'm saying, I'm not saying that these AI channels should be allowed or that Numi acts lewd on her stream all the time, what I'm saying is the main reason these AI channels can farm content off of her with fake clickbait titles and get views, is because she's does act like this in the first place, acting sexual we're friends and the lewd jokes and yes she doesn't act like this all the time but she does do it a lot, that is why when you compared Numi to streamers like Chibidiki or Dokibird that do less lewd content you can see those two have almost no weird clickbait videos. Also I never said that Fillan was saying that in the video or that she doesn't get weird clickbait videos too, I just use what she said as an example and why these ai channels exist in the first place, and why Fillan doesn't have many because she's not known for being lewd on stream.
@kingwalter4284 Yeah, but there's way more people just see title and thumb, judge them, and keep scrolling than there are that will actually watch the clips and see it's just a straight up lie. and it's not like they're clickbaiting "numi said this character is hot" like the type of stuff she actually says. It's WAAY over the line like stuff she would NEVER say, then most people just come away with a hyper-skewed opinion of her. And it's harmful because other up-and-coming clippers might think those are real and start to clickbait like that too. Then there's a bunch of people who've never watched more than 5 mins of Numi, Bao or Lucy that think they basically just make softcore on twitch...
@SabertoothDeathmouse Exactly bro. It's the same victim blaming mentality used on sa victims. It's disgusting how quick people will use that terrible line of thinking to justify or excuse horrible things happening to people. Numi doesn't deserve any of this and there's no excuse for it
Well, she doesn't want to "stop clippers," just the few that spam irrelevant clips with titles and thumbnails that are insane and legitimately have nothing to do with the content of the clips
@long_dennis nah, clickbait is just making the thumbnail and title the most interesting or exaggerating the overall theme of the content in order to get people to click. Just having a custom thumbnail at all is "clickbait" technically. But to outright lie completely and literally have 0 of the referrenced content within the video, that is actually against YT TOS and you can be banned for misleading content.
imagine being a VTuber doing crazy and vulgar things and expecting the people who watch you not to make weird clickbait. Even if it were not so, isn’t it too late to worry about her reputation after all the things she has done?
"crazy vulgar things" like what? make dick and ball jokes? Bet your favorite streamer's done that. Moan in a suggestive way for a bit? Bet your favorite streamer's done that... She doesn't care if people do clickbait, as long as the clickbait is somewhat related to the content of the clip/video. The fact you didn't know this means you didn't watch the video and you're the exact type of person Numi wants to create less of with these WILD ass misleading titles and thumbnails. You should also not want it to be normalized for people to be able to completely and utterly mislead like that on TH-cam because if it weren't TOS, you would probably never be able to find a video you actually want to watch. Again, what is this "all the things she has done" sentiment? Like fucking what? Dudes joke around on stream about vilgar shit all the time, you got a problem with that too? Or is it just when women do it? She's never done anything past playing into bits with her friends and/or chat about sexual shit. Which she complies with Twitch's 18+ option to filter out people underage. If they still get in, that's a problem with Twitch, not Numi.
Honestly think Numi is blowing things out of proportion, Clickbait, as much as I wish it would end, has been part of the youtube meta for a long time and shows no signs of stopping. She also, from what I saw, only play a part of the clip, paused it, and proceeded to go: "See! See? They haven't done what the title says!!!" despite there still being time in the video for it to occur. I think I'll have to look up the video she was complaining about to see for myself, one moment, I'll be back
@@SilverTriforce25 Several one of the other ones are gone too. I have watched some of the clips from these channels. They do tend to be just clickbait. Like clickbait as in they dont really have what you think your getting. Its the misleading part, that is the problem really.
Nah she is right there is a limit and they go way above and beyond they kinda PUSH into a stereotype by creating more and more egregious titles which then makes new people think it's what they ONLY do even tho it's one part of the stream
I get & understand clickbait, but this sort of thing is honestly to the point of defamation, I'll say that the original vtuber has the right to copyright strike, or request deletion of clip channels like this.
@@sadsworth4605 do you know how you can go through school being model student until that one time where you have an accident in your pants and they are known as mr doodoo pants forever?
Numi: please don't put me into unhinged clickbaits.
Filian: why are there no clickbaits of me T_T
Also, Cornhub: ''Vtuber? Did you mean Filian?''
Too wild to properly clickbait, can only quote
Anyone who thinks numi is "blowing things out of proportion" are apart of the problem. Numi is absolutely in the right for bringing attention to this. Even if clickbait has been a big part of TH-cam when the clickbait is literally just taking a clip adding terrible subtitles and ai generated thumbnails that ruins things for clippers. Clippers are a big part of the streaming community as we all know by now and all it takes is a few rotten apples to spoil the whole bunch. Taking clips and uploading them is perfectly fine but once you add in the clickbait titles, clickbait thumbnail, and the terrible subtitles you risk ruining a streamer's image. Able is one of my favorite clippers because they dont do anything to ruin a streamer's image. To all clippers that arent weird keep doing great
I try to make sure whatever text is in the thumbnail is either the topic of the video, or outright quotable if I can.
true in fact being a coward and not speaking out is more dangerous long term because instead of creating a precedent of working with clippers to fix the issue it just creates tension which will lead to worse drama down the line
It bad, its clickbaity, and and those stuff will make the streamer uncomfortable, but Tarnish her image? i mean come on guys lets be real, those kind of clickbait is so exaggerated to a point everyone would know its satire. it wouldnt ruin her image in the slightest, since such clickbait stuff are overused on everybody, everyone would know its just bait.
we need to accept that no matter what she did, she can never delete the clickbait culture, and at the same time, it wouldnt ruin her image, in the slightest.
@@FBI_Notyou can never be too sure
There are a lot, and I mean a lot, of people out there who don’t understand satire and take everything at face value
@@long_dennis and these people are a minority that will not affect the majority. Quoting the guy below, it has been happening since the dawn of youtube, and the internet has thought us normal humans to not take things at face value, which is the majority of people that made her succeed.
Will it stop? No. Will it destroy her career? A bigger No. All she can do now is just to ignore stupid clickbaits and just enjoy the algorithm making her famous. Ride the wave, its both smooth and bumpy
“This stream is so quiet”. Forgets/doesn’t know you have to leave space for the AI’s to respond.
Numi was actually really good at quickly finding the conversational rhythm with the two of them-which was different then just one Neuro.
Look at her original video - this is not about fans being appropriate or unapprooriate, these are regular scammers spamming for profit, not caring about the community
It’s kind of embarrassing to see my stream thumb up there.
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Seen a few of these clickbates around recently, Not a fan personally never have liked clickbate, which i imagine most people are in the same boat for. Most the time i click on a video if its not what it says or its misleading i'll go watch something better. certain clippers do it cause it helps some do it to jump on a bandwagon of greed. That being said even some of the more trusted ones (IMO) recently have left some not so true videos/titles. sort it out guys you are there as the support not the main act. that being said we appreciate your work, those of you who do it for the love of the fandom.
Yeah, clippers kinda follow each others' trends (mostly because there's new clippers everyday). So, if channels like these bot ones go unchecked, clippers will tend to follow the trend and start posting more clickbait/horni themed clips. But *even then* **USUALLY** at least they'll actually say it in the clip...
Nothing is a bit in phase connect, you don't need click bait to get these thumbnails and titles
Lazy AI assisted click bait content is infesting TH-cam, its way too much.
3:24 don't jinx it filian😅
You make everything more fun just by being here.Filian💕 💓 ♥️ 💖 ✨️
Lots of victim blaming going on here in the comments. I bet none of them actually watch Numi or other VTubers. Just a bunch of chronically online losers that need to give their opinion about everything because no one actually gives a shit about their opinions irl.
Watch several and the a.i. grifter click bait stuff is awful
Funny how a clipper stole clips about clipping.
I clipped a clip about clickbait to clickbait my clip
@@ableclips clickbait inception
@@ableclipsSo we could watch while we watch!
3:22 Fillan does have a point here, the main reasons there can be so many clickbait videos of Numi is because of how she acts on stream, if they tried to do this with people like Dokibirds or Chibidiki the video will not get that many clicks.
1. Not what she's saying here. 2. People do do that all the time with filian. 3. Numi isn't talking about clickbait, she's talking about clip farmers that use ai generated subtitles with broken english in the titles and thumbnails that just make up lies and how much she wants this to stop because it makes her uncomfortable and feels like it reflects poorly on her image. 4. If you're gonna make a gooner clip of Numi, there are plenty of actual clips you can use instead of just straight-up lying. 5. She doesn't do it all the time and if you think she does then you don't watch her enough. 6. How someone may act on stream is not an inherent excuse or invitation for this kind of behavior to begin with.
@@NoName-ns6xr I don't think you understand what I'm saying, I'm not saying that these AI channels should be allowed or that Numi acts lewd on her stream all the time, what I'm saying is the main reason these AI channels can farm content off of her with fake clickbait titles and get views, is because she's does act like this in the first place, acting sexual we're friends and the lewd jokes and yes she doesn't act like this all the time but she does do it a lot, that is why when you compared Numi to streamers like Chibidiki or Dokibird that do less lewd content you can see those two have almost no weird clickbait videos.
Also I never said that Fillan was saying that in the video or that she doesn't get weird clickbait videos too, I just use what she said as an example and why these ai channels exist in the first place, and why Fillan doesn't have many because she's not known for being lewd on stream.
@kingwalter4284 Yeah, but there's way more people just see title and thumb, judge them, and keep scrolling than there are that will actually watch the clips and see it's just a straight up lie. and it's not like they're clickbaiting "numi said this character is hot" like the type of stuff she actually says. It's WAAY over the line like stuff she would NEVER say, then most people just come away with a hyper-skewed opinion of her. And it's harmful because other up-and-coming clippers might think those are real and start to clickbait like that too. Then there's a bunch of people who've never watched more than 5 mins of Numi, Bao or Lucy that think they basically just make softcore on twitch...
Comments like this have the same feeling as "she was asking for it by dressing like that."
@SabertoothDeathmouse Exactly bro. It's the same victim blaming mentality used on sa victims. It's disgusting how quick people will use that terrible line of thinking to justify or excuse horrible things happening to people. Numi doesn't deserve any of this and there's no excuse for it
Trying to stop clippers is like trying to fight sea with spears
Well, she doesn't want to "stop clippers," just the few that spam irrelevant clips with titles and thumbnails that are insane and legitimately have nothing to do with the content of the clips
in my opinion click bait is okay as long as its not straight up lying
That’s…..what clickbait is tho, lying to get clicks
@long_dennis nah, clickbait is just making the thumbnail and title the most interesting or exaggerating the overall theme of the content in order to get people to click. Just having a custom thumbnail at all is "clickbait" technically. But to outright lie completely and literally have 0 of the referrenced content within the video, that is actually against YT TOS and you can be banned for misleading content.
imagine being a VTuber doing crazy and vulgar things and expecting the people who watch you not to make weird clickbait. Even if it were not so, isn’t it too late to worry about her reputation after all the things she has done?
"crazy vulgar things" like what? make dick and ball jokes? Bet your favorite streamer's done that. Moan in a suggestive way for a bit? Bet your favorite streamer's done that...
She doesn't care if people do clickbait, as long as the clickbait is somewhat related to the content of the clip/video. The fact you didn't know this means you didn't watch the video and you're the exact type of person Numi wants to create less of with these WILD ass misleading titles and thumbnails. You should also not want it to be normalized for people to be able to completely and utterly mislead like that on TH-cam because if it weren't TOS, you would probably never be able to find a video you actually want to watch.
Again, what is this "all the things she has done" sentiment? Like fucking what? Dudes joke around on stream about vilgar shit all the time, you got a problem with that too? Or is it just when women do it? She's never done anything past playing into bits with her friends and/or chat about sexual shit. Which she complies with Twitch's 18+ option to filter out people underage. If they still get in, that's a problem with Twitch, not Numi.
You should look up consent. Might save your and someone else's life one day.
Honestly think Numi is blowing things out of proportion, Clickbait, as much as I wish it would end, has been part of the youtube meta for a long time and shows no signs of stopping. She also, from what I saw, only play a part of the clip, paused it, and proceeded to go: "See! See? They haven't done what the title says!!!" despite there still being time in the video for it to occur. I think I'll have to look up the video she was complaining about to see for myself, one moment, I'll be back
the Lidl Girl account no longer exists
@@SilverTriforce25 Several one of the other ones are gone too. I have watched some of the clips from these channels. They do tend to be just clickbait. Like clickbait as in they dont really have what you think your getting. Its the misleading part, that is the problem really.
Nah she is right there is a limit and they go way above and beyond they kinda PUSH into a stereotype by creating more and more egregious titles which then makes new people think it's what they ONLY do even tho it's one part of the stream
I get & understand clickbait, but this sort of thing is honestly to the point of defamation, I'll say that the original vtuber has the right to copyright strike, or request deletion of clip channels like this.
@@sadsworth4605 do you know how you can go through school being model student until that one time where you have an accident in your pants and they are known as mr doodoo pants forever?
Numi is letting her power as a popular vtuber go to her head! She's losing control! Soon she will be locking everyone up! 🗿