If you can give me one example of what travellers contribute to society in positive capacity I would welcome them with open arms. And a quick note on the church, they are only partially to blame. The co conspirators were the state, parents, family, neighbours, in the abuse days. The church took full advantage of a right wing, docile, ignorant, hypocritical society led by good Catholic Dev and the boys for decades. Travellers take full advantage now of an over zealous wannabe leftist minority who fall over themselves when the travellers claim injustice.Ireland took their eye off the ball for decades more interested in hating the Brits and going to mass while thousands were abused ,women mutilated in hospitals,babies sold to wealthy American Wasps or left in mass graves.
co11a1 So every traveller is meant to be a model citizen? i know plenty who work hard and pay taxes, i also know plenty of non travellers who sit and claim dole! you are tarring us all with the same brush, that's very "Right Wing" of you. And i don't see what we have to do with the scumbag freestaters who protected paedophiles and sold our kids to rich yanks. This is injustice, travellers face a lot of it, people like you act like we bring it on ourselves, just because we don't give into the "Norm" we are suddenly weird people. We are happy with ourselves and who we are, non travellers like yourself are always tryna be someone else, its not us that needs to change, its yous!
If its the same lady in the white dress you were dressed perfectly fine I agree with you its disgraceful that you weren't allowed into the church and I think you did the travelling community proud in the way you conducted yourself in your protest!
How awful. I am so sorry this happened to you and your family. Mass and church are for everyone in any attire. why isn't that priest welcoming and happy to see parishioners there to worship? His role is to spread the gospel, not to play holier than thou! He'd never get away with this in California!
I heard about this earlier in the week and was shock....but I shouldn't have been cause it's Ireland after all!....I certainly agree with the traveller lady because in this video alone you can see a another lady go into the church and I think I can safely say that her dress was in fact shorter than the traveller lady's! What worries me is that we saw member of the settled community pass and say absolutely nothing...it's when settled people behave in this manner that it gives the good , decent settled people a bad name and worse again could send a strong message to the travelling community that all settled people are like that....which we're not! I'm very sorry that this happened to the lady and her family and please do not leave the impression that all settled people are like this....cause we're not.....
Well done for making this and the other video. Would like to have heard exactly what the priest said but I presume that was not recorded. Have had many good dealings with traveelers and enjoy their compnay at the market where we all sell stuff.
#TheIrishPotato maybe we should discriminate against Non Travellers for this. www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCgQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rte.ie%2Fnews%2F2015%2F0415%2F694181-hamptons-rape-trial%2F&ei=Wkh3VfPKM6-BsQTgm4K4BQ&usg=AFQjCNHq6LB_nfPoSE2bSbQ0SJt0G_iBHw&sig2=Vz3uDZlwUs0b6GEo0wnTig&bvm=bv.95039771,d.cWc
So why are other members of the church able to wear the same thing without problem (as seen in other videos of this)? I was brought up Catholic and we welcomed everyone, including those who you would obviously see as "unclean" and "impure." We did not judge as we were taught only GOD will judge! Not even the priest has that right. Jesus was homeless, a traveler, and was friends with prostitutes and tax collectors. Are you going to follow his example? Hebrews 13:2 "Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by this some have entertained angels without knowing it." 1 Peter 4:9 "Be hospitable to one another without complaint." Matthew 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged." Matthew 7:3 "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? Luke 6:37 "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven." John 8:7 "When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." Romans 2:3 "So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God's judgment?" Romans 14:22 "So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves." 1 Corinthians 4:5 "Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of the heart. At that time each will receive their praise from God." - See more at: bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Travellers#sthash.BVQBZSLR.dpuf
Michael Gross jesus was frends with the homeless man who was friends with the prostitute and tax collector , how ever they did not practes there prostitution and tax when confronted bye Christ ,and they were rewarded the gift of threw love ! .. respect and grace .. something a tax collector and prostitute are dinied .. when real good and big harted men gives them something they may not have had from others , they change , I look at a prostititue as a woman who has a hart , and respect her .. but I do not and will not allow me to say she is right , and I will try tell her to move from it,.. and same ith the tax collector ,, he is hatted but he is still the person who can be shown what he can gain happiness from real happienes.. this would be the same with gay homosexuals ,, I have hart and respect for all, and them to .. but I will turn away and diniy they ar right bye the acts and the orientation they follow .. at least, we can see the truth come out when there is decent big harted people to jused speak and seek goodness from them , they have it in them every boddy does ,, people have walked away from drugs ,, people have walked away from alchohol and people have evon walked away from being gay , threw moveing toward some one with the big hart .. its a tuff old world out there now people ... it really is .. is there any boddy left or is susity really getting to bad for people .. suppose , we got t jused ask are selfs this question ..
I'm glad I was born and raised in England to people over here that don't no that I'm a traveller I'm just irish but over there the old country lol they no the accent of a traveller you're a nacker ain't ya but were not nackers when we're boxing and winning medals john joe Nevin! Tyson fury he wears the irish colours won the irish heavyweight title! Are day will come ha
what annoyed me more was ppl just walking by..call themselves Christians they should have stood there and said "you ain't allowing them in then we ain't going in neither"...ridiculous letting a man tell you ,you cannot enter a house of God..disgraceful
guydecervens Nobody has a right to stop You entering a house of God...Ireland has allowed men in collars to belittle and talk down to them far too long and look what it got us..100s of babies stole from their mothers those mothers used as nothing more than slaves ,thousands of abused and mistreated kids..& all for what? in the name of God? cos they feel that gives them their right to play judge when all they are is men in fancy dress...
cathy d They have every right to stop anybody who is inappropriately dressed entering their establishment. In most countries the dress code for Catholic churches is more strict. You would need to cover your head and shoulders ..... as well as your arse
guydecervens It's not their establishment ..it's a house of God..and you can see in the video that another woman was allowed in with a way shorter skirt on..so ya statement is totally bullshit..these men in collars play god themselves..and as for ppl covering their heads that ain't happened in Ireland in years times change..You think God cares if you cover your head..We come into this world all naked...Plus this woman had a full dress which was down to her knees covered her arms and chest..how is that wrong?..ya talking bullshit
guydecervens Neither does these Men in collars yet they live in big ass houses and drive brand new cars and eat the best of food.....& go about playing judge
Matthew5:28, King James Bible But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
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If you can give me one example of what travellers contribute to society in positive capacity I would welcome them with open arms. And a quick note on the church, they are only partially to blame. The co conspirators were the state, parents, family, neighbours, in the abuse days. The church took full advantage of a right wing, docile, ignorant, hypocritical society led by good Catholic Dev and the boys for decades. Travellers take full advantage now of an over zealous wannabe leftist minority who fall over themselves when the travellers claim injustice.Ireland took their eye off the ball for decades more interested in hating the Brits and going to mass while thousands were abused ,women mutilated in hospitals,babies sold to wealthy American Wasps or left in mass graves.
co11a1 So every traveller is meant to be a model citizen? i know plenty who work hard and pay taxes, i also know plenty of non travellers who sit and claim dole! you are tarring us all with the same brush, that's very "Right Wing" of you. And i don't see what we have to do with the scumbag freestaters who protected paedophiles and sold our kids to rich yanks. This is injustice, travellers face a lot of it, people like you act like we bring it on ourselves, just because we don't give into the "Norm" we are suddenly weird people. We are happy with ourselves and who we are, non travellers like yourself are always tryna be someone else, its not us that needs to change, its yous!
If its the same lady in the white dress you were dressed perfectly fine I agree with you its disgraceful that you weren't allowed into the church and I think you did the travelling community proud in the way you conducted yourself in your protest!
How awful. I am so sorry this happened to you and your family. Mass and church are for everyone in any attire. why isn't that priest welcoming and happy to see parishioners there to worship? His role is to spread the
gospel, not to play holier than thou! He'd never get away with this in California!
I heard about this earlier in the week and was shock....but I shouldn't have been cause it's Ireland after all!....I certainly agree with the traveller lady because in this video alone you can see a another lady go into the church and I think I can safely say that her dress was in fact shorter than the traveller lady's!
What worries me is that we saw member of the settled community pass and say absolutely nothing...it's when settled people behave in this manner that it gives the good , decent settled people a bad name and worse again could send a strong message to the travelling community that all settled people are like that....which we're not! I'm very sorry that this happened to the lady and her family and please do not leave the impression that all settled people are like this....cause we're not.....
Well done for making this and the other video. Would like to have heard exactly what the priest said but I presume that was not recorded. Have had many good dealings with traveelers and enjoy their compnay at the market where we all sell stuff.
#TheIrishPotato maybe we should discriminate against Non Travellers for this.
www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCgQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rte.ie%2Fnews%2F2015%2F0415%2F694181-hamptons-rape-trial%2F&ei=Wkh3VfPKM6-BsQTgm4K4BQ&usg=AFQjCNHq6LB_nfPoSE2bSbQ0SJt0G_iBHw&sig2=Vz3uDZlwUs0b6GEo0wnTig&bvm=bv.95039771,d.cWc
Well done for recording that. You have to see that vid to believe it.
You're all dressed fine except for the girl at 1:21 who is showing off half of her body
So why are other members of the church able to wear the same thing without problem (as seen in other videos of this)? I was brought up Catholic and we welcomed everyone, including those who you would obviously see as "unclean" and "impure." We did not judge as we were taught only GOD will judge! Not even the priest has that right. Jesus was homeless, a traveler, and was friends with prostitutes and tax collectors. Are you going to follow his example?
Hebrews 13:2 "Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by this some have entertained angels without knowing it."
1 Peter 4:9 "Be hospitable to one another without complaint."
Matthew 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged."
Matthew 7:3 "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
Luke 6:37 "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven."
John 8:7 "When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her."
Romans 2:3 "So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God's judgment?"
Romans 14:22 "So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves."
1 Corinthians 4:5 "Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of the heart. At that time each will receive their praise from God."
- See more at: bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Travellers#sthash.BVQBZSLR.dpuf
Michael Gross jesus was frends with the homeless man who was friends with the prostitute and tax collector , how ever they did not practes there prostitution and tax when confronted bye Christ ,and they were rewarded the gift of threw love ! .. respect and grace .. something a tax collector and prostitute are dinied .. when real good and big harted men gives them something they may not have had from others , they change , I look at a prostititue as a woman who has a hart , and respect her .. but I do not and will not allow me to say she is right , and I will try tell her to move from it,.. and same ith the tax collector ,, he is hatted but he is still the person who can be shown what he can gain happiness from real happienes.. this would be the same with gay homosexuals ,, I have hart and respect for all, and them to .. but I will turn away and diniy they ar right bye the acts and the orientation they follow .. at least, we can see the truth come out when there is decent big harted people to jused speak and seek goodness from them , they have it in them every boddy does ,, people have walked away from drugs ,, people have walked away from alchohol and people have evon walked away from being gay , threw moveing toward some one with the big hart .. its a tuff old world out there now people ... it really is .. is there any boddy left or is susity really getting to bad for people .. suppose , we got t jused ask are selfs this question ..
Fucking terrible its 2015 wat is wrong with this country
Great video. Disgrace
I'm glad I was born and raised in England to people over here that don't no that I'm a traveller I'm just irish but over there the old country lol they no the accent of a traveller you're a nacker ain't ya but were not nackers when we're boxing and winning medals john joe Nevin! Tyson fury he wears the irish colours won the irish heavyweight title! Are day will come ha
what annoyed me more was ppl just walking by..call themselves Christians they should have stood there and said "you ain't allowing them in then we ain't going in neither"...ridiculous letting a man tell you ,you cannot enter a house of God..disgraceful
guydecervens
Nobody has a right to stop You entering a house of God...Ireland has allowed men in collars to belittle and talk down to them far too long and look what it got us..100s of babies stole from their mothers those mothers used as nothing more than slaves ,thousands of abused and mistreated kids..& all for what? in the name of God? cos they feel that gives them their right to play judge when all they are is men in fancy dress...
cathy d
They have every right to stop anybody who is inappropriately dressed entering their establishment. In most countries the dress code for Catholic churches is more strict. You would need to cover your head and shoulders ..... as well as your arse
guydecervens It's not their establishment ..it's a house of God..and you can see in the video that another woman was allowed in with a way shorter skirt on..so ya statement is totally bullshit..these men in collars play god themselves..and as for ppl covering their heads that ain't happened in Ireland in years times change..You think God cares if you cover your head..We come into this world all naked...Plus this woman had a full dress which was down to her knees covered her arms and chest..how is that wrong?..ya talking bullshit
cathy d
"God" doesn't need a house bro
guydecervens
Neither does these Men in collars yet they live in big ass houses and drive brand new cars and eat the best of food.....& go about playing judge
I have nothing to say for this
The priest have horn.i.tus from the short skorts
Matthew5:28, King James Bible
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.