I used mine - one that size - to heat a two bedroom, 830 sq ft single level home. One of the best investments I ever made. I had to be careful that I cut the logs short enough to fit - 15" >. Once I learned how to throttle it down after establishing a good burn, the heat was easily maintained. Using two to three tablespoons of a sawdust/lamp oil mixture, and stored in a 3# coffee can, was a simple and reliable fire starter.
I went to the dollar store in Fredericton and the have fire starter cheap. I snap off a piece the size of a key fob, light it, with a little kindling over top of it and I'm good to go. Roaring fire in 5 minutes.
I did that as well and in the house fireplace I found these compressed sawdust and wax starters for $2, there 3 pieces that can be broken into 12 squares. They work better than any other method I've tried.
If I buy a bigger one I'm going to build a small camp and use it in there... just not big enough for the garage... I'll be looking at a solar fan which might help.
Although I have one as many others do... the Little Giant has met his match in my garage it appears. If the outside temperature is zero or above it can get the inside warm enough to warm it up but drive you out it never will.
I wished I bought a bigger woodstove for the garage but we had a power failure in the middle of a big storm and I fired it right up and finished cooking our dinner. Although a tad small it works great.
I have one of these. Possibly the best drafting wood stove ever, like a blow torch if I left the air inlet open. I had it in my 20x20 enclosed but uninsulated carport, and while it worked well, like you I thought something bigger was in order- feed it less, more heat, room for bigger logs. I like the bigger stove, but set aside the Jotul to use later. I think it would be a great supplemental stove, with more than enough heat for a living room, especially in a house with some insulation.
I 'm going to wait a bit and maybe get a bigger stove when the sales come. The little stove as you point out needs constant attention to get heat out of it and takes a couple of hours to heat the walls and stuff in the garage up to where it can stay warm. Yesterday it was minus 15 C and there was no way I'd bother to try and warm up the garage.
@@SheepyHollowCanada You might try Craigslist and Facebook marketplace to see if they have anything you're looking for priced reasonably. Sometimes people buy a house that has a good woodstove and they don't want it, or they try a woodstove for a while and decide it isn't for them. I consistently hear good things about Englander and Drolet as quality, moderately priced stoves, but have no experience w them. I run an old Vogelzang Mountaineer in the carport. Vogelzang is a pretty low end brand, but it has a nice viewing window and fits large 28" pieces of wood. I modified it by installing a stainless steel airtube in order to introduce oxygen and achieve a secondary burn for more heat and efficiency, but most modern stoves are manufactured with those tubes already.
@@mickm5097 Thanks bud for the info and I will have a look come spring about what I should do. Your post is positive and we don't need negativety when posting. Happy new year to you and your family.
@@SheepyHollowCanada 3! Wow, so wonderful! They look magnificent. Where in Canada do you live? MB? I was born in Winnipeg, then moved to BC as a child. I’m researching dog breeds right now suited for a cold, subarctic climate in northern BC that will protect myself and my cats from predators. I’m considering the Kangal, Caucasian Shepherd, American Akita... how about the Great Pyrenees? Thank you for any advice.
I live in New Brunswick outside of Fredericton. The GP is an excellent guardian dog, but they use barking to warn predators, saying that they bark a lot. Plus they shed a lot so if they are in the home I wouldn't recommend rugs. Our boys come into the house at night so we can get sleep. They have never spent 1 night outside and are rarely without one of being home. Good luck in your selection.
It might be ok for that but processing the sticks and stuff would be more like a full time job... I think I've only fired the Jotul a couple of times this year. I'm lucky in a way that the guy who delivers our firewood has shorter pieces of firewood that my electric splitter makes smaller so it can fit in there... 16 inch piece of regular firewood is usually too long to get more than 1 piece in there... because of the stuff inside means you can really get a bigger piece into the top of the firebox. I'm hoping to find a bigger stove with a blower on it so it can heat the garage. Have a great day :) and thanks for watching.
A good way of lightning the stove is to do what you are doing except for the paper load up the stove and use a little propane torch to light it it will be lit before you know it Thanks for sharing your video Ps I like the Harley picture in back of the stove Take care God Bless
I bet that it does, but the garage even though insulated just doesn't warm up enough. I even run an electric shop heater that barely helps. I think most of the heat is going up the stairwell to the loft. Thanks for watching :)
I have on of these (eco type though) , with an outside air intake and 2 meters of uninsulated flu pipe , it heats my 3 story house by itself on 10kg of sawdust bricks per day in a northern European winter. It gets uncomfortably warm in the house if I feed it more then the 10kg per day.
Thanks for sharing David... we have a carpenter coming back soon and he will address the door with new weather stripping and hopefully I can get more heat retained in the garage. If not then I'll sell this stove and get a big one with built in fans to more the air in the garage which should help.
Thanks for the comment. I have been heating my 3 story home (also in northern Europe) with an old model wood stove that must be retired soon and am considering this as a replacement. Have not been sure it would put out enough heat but you seem to make it work! How many square meters are you heating with this stove? We have 60+60+30 with the wood stove on the ground floor and a ceiling fan to drive the warm air up the stairs.
No hardly at all... I was thinking of putting a couple of 1 by 4's on the wall and putting old license plates on the wall but I might get some bricks for the wall to help hold some heat in the garage.
They give you dimensions on how far from a combustible wall to place the stove, I know the larger ones have heat shield thing on the back so that you can have it fairly close to the wall safety
@@TheAvkdutch I had the entire thing installed by a professional installer from the company where I bought it. The wood box to the right doesn't get hot when I put my hand along the side. I have a bunch of old license plates I was thinking of using but... not sure if I want that or not... was thinking of cement and bricks... to help hold some heat actually.
Nice stove, I'm having one installed in my 600 sq ft log cabin. Do you adjust the air down or just let her rip wide open? What kind of burn time do you see?
I place the bigger stuff on the bottom and build the wood up to the small stuff at the top and use rolled-up newspapers at the top to light. I partially close the door so the wind whips in there quickly which makes the fire rage and light the bigger pieces of wood at the bottom. Then close the door and the damper at the bottom I slide to the closed position the left. I think I get about 1/2 an hour before I have to stuff more wood in... It will keep you busy. The wood cannot be longer than 16 inches or you'll fight to get it in. I've marked a line on my 9-ton electric splitter to identify shorter pieces of wood to split so the size fits inside the stove. That is what takes all the time... getting the wood the right size... which is like the big end of a baseball bat and I have lots of split wood on hand as a day of burning eats a lot of wood. Read through the comments as there are some good ideas here and others well not so good. Merry Christmas.
Sheepy Hollow At what point do you close the damper on the stove to initiate the secondary burn? You do realize this Jøtul has the secondary burn. If you continue to let the stove rip like that your going to cause a crack in the casting. Better read the manual or watch a Jøtul video.
I couldn't figure out if the video was about the dog or the stove It would've been nice to know some specs on the stove. What is the maximum length of the pieces of wood it will take.
16 inches and not any longer. On top of that, you cannot get a piece of wood into it if it is too wide... the way they made it inside means you end up putting in smaller pieces and they have to be wiggled into place. On top of all that you cannot get much wood into the fire box.
I measured it today and it is 18 inches of clearance and the same on the right side of the stove. I've felt the objects around the stove when it is going and don't feel or I didn't feel it was a concern.... and the pipe is doubled walled.
The front view shots did seem like the stove is right against the wall, but at 22:42 we can see it's moderately far. The manual of the 602 stove calls for 30cm (25cm when shielded flue pipe is used) minimum distance of stove from the back combustible wall. So your 18inches as you mention in the comments is more than enough, even if I presume you measured to the pipe which is further than the stove. Each stove's manual calls for different min distance, some have more shielded shell and can be put close to the wall
@@SheepyHollowCanada are you giving it enough time to heat up that space because i think it might take several hours maybe 5-6 to heat it up to a comfortable temperatur?
I have a shed cabin that is just 265 sq ft. With insulated walls and roof. It has gable rafters at 12’ with two lofts. Can anyone in the know comment if this stove is to big for the space, in northern wisconsin. Also what are real burn times, can I get 6 hours or more?
I would think you'll need to be needing to operate a vent at the ridge line. I can heat a two car garage with a loft but takes some time. The burn time stuffed is about an hour and you'll be loading it again. Plus the firebox can't handle big wood so I reduce mine to the size of a bat and under 16 inches.
The fan is well made and spins to beat the band but sadly I think I need more than one fan to push the air around in the garage better. Who knows maybe someone will "will" me one as they are costly :)
I have never, in 50 some years of being around wood stoves and wood burners, seen anyone try and light a fire from the top. The kindling goes underneath the larger wood. Maybe it's a regional thing but in the Adirondacks that would be a sure sign of a flatlander.
LOL, I know and thought like that until I tried it. Man, I tried the other way most of my life, and believe me when I say I was surprised when I lit it the first time and how fast the big stuff ignited, I had to try again. Last winter in the house fireplace that was the only way I lite it. Worked flawless every time, so if a flatlander is it then yahoo to flatlanders. Others have tried it with success so why not try it yourself. You can climb down a rope or climb up... makes no difference as you'll always end up somewhere ;).
All wood fires burn from the top. Starting from the top is the correct way to light a European stove and gives the fastest start with the lowest emissions.
@@andrewstafford-jones4291 I found this by accident and glad I did. There is no right way to light a fire as whatever works for whoever is good enough for me. I don't get why you have to light it the "old fashion" or TV way because that is the way you have seen it done. Kinda like which sock goes on first... lol
I would think your location would determine that but in Canada, it would be like heating with a candle. In all honesty, I'd get a bigger one with a cooktop on it in the event of a power failure. The little Jotul did ok but was limited to a frying pan. Your house well insulated as well would be another factor and cutting the wood into smaller pieces and I could go on... and on... get a proper sized one and if too hot, make a smaller fire.
23 feet by 23 feet... just measured for 529 sq feet... plus the heat will rise up into the loft... kinda of neat I'm uploading another video on the little stove... for the 1st time this year... starting temp was 55 and it heated it up to 65 in an hour and 75 later... I'm thinking I need more air flow to move the heat better... maybe a small fan blowing directly on the side of the stove.
@@SheepyHollowCanada Ah that's a sizeable garage. In addition to that, I see a few physical limitations here. First, as you say, the air volume of the loft - depends how large and high it is. Might not be that much. Second, in the vid you have a lot of 'cold mass' filling up like half of the garage. This reduces the volume of the air in the garage that needs to get heated up which is good, the air will get warm quicker. But it increases the surface area of the cold mass (in addition to the outer walls) that will emanate and keep cooling up the air. And the volume of the mass is large, it will then take longer (a lot of energy) to heat up all the cold mass volume (stacks of wood) in the garage as opposed to heating up an empty garage's air and walls. In other words, once the fire goes out, the air will get cold quick if the mass is still cold, or it will stay warm longer if you already heated up all the mass. For a cosy longer stay feeling, the walls etc need to warm up, unless you're sitting by the emanating hot stove. This takes time. Hours, if not days. When visiting an old cottage with thick walls that's not a permanent residence, it takes about a day, sometimes two, to fully heat the walls up in mild winter. Only then if feels good. In my opinion, you can't expect a large leaky (uninsulated) garage with a lot of mass inside to heat up after just an hour or two of woodburn. A larger stove doesn't get hotter, right? It has only slightly more surface to dissipate the heat. I'm not sure a larger stove would heat up the room too much quicker. It would, however, definitely outshine this little stove when it comes to the duration of the burn for one full load. That is, you wouldn't have to baby it all the time, just load it up in the morning, let it slowly heat up the room, and forget about it for several hours. All in all, I feel that 'time' is the most important factor here. The heat transfer efficiency of your stove might only negligibly be improved. Good luck in your retirement and I think it's a good idea for your channel to make another Jotul video experiment.)
@@Armstrongifyable Your comment really makes a lot of sense... thank you... The garage has insulated walls and ceiling in addition, 1 inch of foam board and new double pane windows. Once the side door is fixed I'll make another video to see how things heat up... We have a cracked cement floor that might get replaced one day and while reading your comments I thought if I replace the garage floor I could try in-floor heating and tie that hose into my geothermal unit. Then I could use the garage floor as a heat sink maybe.
@@SheepyHollowCanada Mm alright insulated. How long does it take the Jotul to heat up the thermometers from freezing to livingroom temps? I see you have a lot of projects.) An in-floor heating has a very large surface area, it then has no problem to heat up the room and requires only smaller water temperatures that are achievable from alternate energy sources/units. It might be too expensive, however, to redo a concrete floor for a water floor heating. Probably much more economical to put it in during the initial construction.. And most importantly for your application I'm not sure it's the right thing, u'd probably have to keep the garage heated all the time - heating in concrete floor is a very slow source of heat, since it takes very long to heat up the concrete floor mass, which then provides heat for very long. When we turn off our water infloor heating in our livingroom insulated house, the residual heat in the concrete mass then maintains the temperature for about a day before it starts slowly dropping. The other way around, it also takes about half a day to even start warming up the room after the tubes have warmed thru the thick concrete layer.
@@Armstrongifyable I have a ground loop geothermal unit already and if the circulation was tied in I might be able to raise the temp to the source... thus 50F if that is the ground temp 12 feet down. Then I could light a fire and the stuff in the pipes could go to the geo-unit and to the house. In the summer the heat from the house could go directly to the field and cool back to the garage... Might actually work. The garage floor we suspect wasn't put in correctly as the previous owner did some weird things we had to fix. So the floor water can appear in the crack and makes a good portion of the floor wet. The price to do it might be way too much... and yes lots of projects... always something on the go...
Hi, just installed a second hand jøtul 602 (early model no glass) in my lean-to my dog loves the warmth , the side baffles are wrecked so I've used fire bricks £90 here in UK to buy new baffles🤬, think I'll have a look around for one of those fans, anyways all the best I better stoke the fire and browse TH-cam bye.
I believe it was $1000 but there was also an installation with a chimney. My son has been using it this fall to heat the loft above the garage with just heat going up the staircase. When winter finally rolls in, there isn't enough heat to heat much of any space in the garage.
Great little stove, made in Norway. By the way, what is that warm jacket you're wearing in the video? Can you give me the name? I'm big and tall and they don't make jackets like that in Europe. Appreciate it. Adam
The company that makes them is Carhartt and if it is pretty cold out I wear a hoodie underneath... the jacket I have is 4x and I believe I bought it at Marks Work Wearhouse in Canada. You might want to spray it if you wear outside in wet weather. By the way I bought this heavy canvas winter coat after I had to return an expensive Helly Hansen jacket. Hope I answered your question.
Irving lol....When I lived in NB we were driving down a dirt road and we came to a toll both, in the middle of nowhere, yup Irving owned the road and we would have to pay to use it ....They were actually paying someone to sit there all day and night I would assume....Thanks for the vid.
Not in this block yet but I've heard of the other block having a toll booth. Lots of traffic going through in the hunting season and in the summer it is ATV traffic... and thanks for watching... I'm trying each time to make a better vid and now my son wants in the action :) so hopefully the next videos will get better.
@@SheepyHollowCanada I see, my grandparents used a screen infront of the opening of the stove, and the heat was coming out in all the house. Speak to you soon.
Not practical. The firebox us way too small to provide sustained periods of heat.even a single hot burn on a real wood stove will get you more, longer heat on less wood. The only way this stove would have a use is if you can build a thermal mass around it to absorb the heat. In that case it could be useful for a small workshop. 39/36 degrees is not that cold, it’s still above freezing.
@@backachershomestead I was thinking of getting a bigger one and making a small shack to use the Little Giant in down by the big beaver pond. We will see. :)
New Brunswick Canada.... place called Burtts Corner at the end of the Dorn Ridge Road... been using lots of wood the last couple of weeks but the temperature has warmed up today to 1C or about 33F... almost warm enough to go swimming.
I used to light the fire built the other way around but I swear that building big to small on the top works the very best for me on my 2 fireplaces. I used to have a hard time with the bigger stuff collapsing on the fire before but now I don't have a problem.
Yeah "top down" fires are mentally difficult to understand but in a box with upward ventilation it is actually the correct orientation. Campfire you are on the money.
First thing you need to do is install a damper on the stovepipe. You are losing MOST of your heat up, and out of the flu. You should demand a refund from the "professional" installer! And if nothing else, stack firebrick up behind the stove. And don't expect it to warm the place in 30min!
So why don't you close off the stairway and get a big wood stove? Seems very simple. Are you one of these people that jurist like to have something to complain about. I just don't understand.
Thanks for all the comments and great ideas for the Little Giant.
I need to make a small storage place inside the garage for the short pieces of firewood that gets delivered just for the Little Giant.
Very helpful video and beautiful dogs!
I might sell it someday and put in a bigger one. We have 3 of them protecting us and the property. Great dogs :)
I used mine - one that size - to heat a two bedroom, 830 sq ft single level home. One of the best investments I ever made. I had to be careful that I cut the logs short enough to fit - 15" >. Once I learned how to throttle it down after establishing a good burn, the heat was easily maintained. Using two to three tablespoons of a sawdust/lamp oil mixture, and stored in a 3# coffee can, was a simple and reliable fire starter.
I went to the dollar store in Fredericton and the have fire starter cheap. I snap off a piece the size of a key fob, light it, with a little kindling over top of it and I'm good to go. Roaring fire in 5 minutes.
Paper under the wood works even better in my experience.
I did that as well and in the house fireplace I found these compressed sawdust and wax starters for $2, there 3 pieces that can be broken into 12 squares. They work better than any other method I've tried.
Epic video - enjoyed the commentary!
Thanks... much appreciated :) Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Nice little woodstove. I had one of these that I wish I never got rid of.
If I buy a bigger one I'm going to build a small camp and use it in there... just not big enough for the garage... I'll be looking at a solar fan which might help.
Beautiful dog.
Thanks, we have 2 of them... Ice and Storm...
Great Video!
What happened to your channel?
Good video.. keep up the work
Thanks, bud :) much appreciated :)
They are one of the more popular stoves, seen many around.
Although I have one as many others do... the Little Giant has met his match in my garage it appears. If the outside temperature is zero or above it can get the inside warm enough to warm it up but drive you out it never will.
Thank you for info.. I'm considering buying one . Blessings
I wished I bought a bigger woodstove for the garage but we had a power failure in the middle of a big storm and I fired it right up and finished cooking our dinner. Although a tad small it works great.
I have one of these. Possibly the best drafting wood stove ever, like a blow torch if I left the air inlet open. I had it in my 20x20 enclosed but uninsulated carport, and while it worked well, like you I thought something bigger was in order- feed it less, more heat, room for bigger logs. I like the bigger stove, but set aside the Jotul to use later. I think it would be a great supplemental stove, with more than enough heat for a living room, especially in a house with some insulation.
I 'm going to wait a bit and maybe get a bigger stove when the sales come. The little stove as you point out needs constant attention to get heat out of it and takes a couple of hours to heat the walls and stuff in the garage up to where it can stay warm. Yesterday it was minus 15 C and there was no way I'd bother to try and warm up the garage.
@@SheepyHollowCanada You might try Craigslist and Facebook marketplace to see if they have anything you're looking for priced reasonably. Sometimes people buy a house that has a good woodstove and they don't want it, or they try a woodstove for a while and decide it isn't for them. I consistently hear good things about Englander and Drolet as quality, moderately priced stoves, but have no experience w them. I run an old Vogelzang Mountaineer in the carport. Vogelzang is a pretty low end brand, but it has a nice viewing window and fits large 28" pieces of wood. I modified it by installing a stainless steel airtube in order to introduce oxygen and achieve a secondary burn for more heat and efficiency, but most modern stoves are manufactured with those tubes already.
@@mickm5097 Thanks bud for the info and I will have a look come spring about what I should do. Your post is positive and we don't need negativety when posting. Happy new year to you and your family.
Oh my goodness, is that a Great Pyranese? Such a beautiful dog!
Yes, it is the Great Pyrenees, and we have 3 of them.
@@SheepyHollowCanada 3! Wow, so wonderful! They look magnificent. Where in Canada do you live? MB? I was born in Winnipeg, then moved to BC as a child. I’m researching dog breeds right now suited for a cold, subarctic climate in northern BC that will protect myself and my cats from predators. I’m considering the Kangal, Caucasian Shepherd, American Akita... how about the Great Pyrenees? Thank you for any advice.
I live in New Brunswick outside of Fredericton. The GP is an excellent guardian dog, but they use barking to warn predators, saying that they bark a lot. Plus they shed a lot so if they are in the home I wouldn't recommend rugs. Our boys come into the house at night so we can get sleep. They have never spent 1 night outside and are rarely without one of being home. Good luck in your selection.
Good way to get rid of the sticks in the yard hardy har har
That pretty well sums it up... not enough to heat the garage but a smaller cabin would be better... :)
this looks like a good fit in my 16x24 backtard woodshop ,plenty of dead limbs for perfect size firewood all over the place
It might be ok for that but processing the sticks and stuff would be more like a full time job... I think I've only fired the Jotul a couple of times this year. I'm lucky in a way that the guy who delivers our firewood has shorter pieces of firewood that my electric splitter makes smaller so it can fit in there... 16 inch piece of regular firewood is usually too long to get more than 1 piece in there... because of the stuff inside means you can really get a bigger piece into the top of the firebox. I'm hoping to find a bigger stove with a blower on it so it can heat the garage. Have a great day :) and thanks for watching.
A good way of lightning the stove is to do what you are doing except for the paper load up the stove and use a little propane torch to light it it will be lit before you know it
Thanks for sharing your video
Ps I like the Harley picture in back of the stove
Take care
God Bless
Next time in the city I'll look around and see what's available.
I have a 840sqft cabin. I’ll be using this as my primary source of heat.
I bet that it does, but the garage even though insulated just doesn't warm up enough. I even run an electric shop heater that barely helps. I think most of the heat is going up the stairwell to the loft. Thanks for watching :)
@@SheepyHollowCanada yeah we have a loft also I have a fan above hope that helps
I have on of these (eco type though) , with an outside air intake and 2 meters of uninsulated flu pipe , it heats my 3 story house by itself on 10kg of sawdust bricks per day in a northern European winter. It gets uncomfortably warm in the house if I feed it more then the 10kg per day.
Thanks for sharing David... we have a carpenter coming back soon and he will address the door with new weather stripping and hopefully I can get more heat retained in the garage. If not then I'll sell this stove and get a big one with built in fans to more the air in the garage which should help.
Thanks for the comment. I have been heating my 3 story home (also in northern Europe) with an old model wood stove that must be retired soon and am considering this as a replacement. Have not been sure it would put out enough heat but you seem to make it work! How many square meters are you heating with this stove? We have 60+60+30 with the wood stove on the ground floor and a ceiling fan to drive the warm air up the stairs.
does the wall behind the Jotul get hot - I would think the wall would need to be protected
No hardly at all... I was thinking of putting a couple of 1 by 4's on the wall and putting old license plates on the wall but I might get some bricks for the wall to help hold some heat in the garage.
They give you dimensions on how far from a combustible wall to place the stove, I know the larger ones have heat shield thing on the back so that you can have it fairly close to the wall safety
@@TheAvkdutch I had the entire thing installed by a professional installer from the company where I bought it. The wood box to the right doesn't get hot when I put my hand along the side. I have a bunch of old license plates I was thinking of using but... not sure if I want that or not... was thinking of cement and bricks... to help hold some heat actually.
@@TheAvkdutch
They make heat shield for this one as well. Great little stoves they are!
Nice stove, I'm having one installed in my 600 sq ft log cabin. Do you adjust the air down or just let her rip wide open? What kind of burn time do you see?
I place the bigger stuff on the bottom and build the wood up to the small stuff at the top and use rolled-up newspapers at the top to light. I partially close the door so the wind whips in there quickly which makes the fire rage and light the bigger pieces of wood at the bottom. Then close the door and the damper at the bottom I slide to the closed position the left. I think I get about 1/2 an hour before I have to stuff more wood in... It will keep you busy. The wood cannot be longer than 16 inches or you'll fight to get it in. I've marked a line on my 9-ton electric splitter to identify shorter pieces of wood to split so the size fits inside the stove. That is what takes all the time... getting the wood the right size... which is like the big end of a baseball bat and I have lots of split wood on hand as a day of burning eats a lot of wood. Read through the comments as there are some good ideas here and others well not so good. Merry Christmas.
Sheepy Hollow At what point do you close the damper on the stove to initiate the secondary burn? You do realize this Jøtul has the secondary burn. If you continue to let the stove rip like that your going to cause a crack in the casting. Better read the manual or watch a Jøtul video.
Sheepy hollow dont care about no crack in the stove just crack in the hood
@@SheepyHollowCanada You're feeding it wood every half hour?
I love mine
That's great... I didn't light the fire in mine this winter and we now use the garage as an extra frigs in the winter.
I couldn't figure out if the video was about the dog or the stove
It would've been nice to know some specs on the stove. What is the maximum length of the pieces of wood it will take.
16 inches and not any longer. On top of that, you cannot get a piece of wood into it if it is too wide... the way they made it inside means you end up putting in smaller pieces and they have to be wiggled into place. On top of all that you cannot get much wood into the fire box.
Great video, nice info, what kind of fan is that? Selfmade or? Can you share a info? Thanks
Thank you... I bought the fan from the place we bought the fireplace from and you can buy them at amazon... type in "eco fan fireplace".
There's no heat shield behind the stove. Your no concerned? May I ask what the clearance is for the stove? Is that a double walled pipe?
I measured it today and it is 18 inches of clearance and the same on the right side of the stove. I've felt the objects around the stove when it is going and don't feel or I didn't feel it was a concern.... and the pipe is doubled walled.
The front view shots did seem like the stove is right against the wall, but at 22:42 we can see it's moderately far. The manual of the 602 stove calls for 30cm (25cm when shielded flue pipe is used) minimum distance of stove from the back combustible wall. So your 18inches as you mention in the comments is more than enough, even if I presume you measured to the pipe which is further than the stove. Each stove's manual calls for different min distance, some have more shielded shell and can be put close to the wall
How big is the space your trying to heat up with that stove? I got a 30 sqaure meter and thats 300 sqaure feet.
2 car garage... it is too small... we were told it wold heat it but the company that sold us it won't take it back for a bigger stove.
@@SheepyHollowCanada are you giving it enough time to heat up that space because i think it might take several hours maybe 5-6 to heat it up to a comfortable temperatur?
I have a shed cabin that is just 265 sq ft. With insulated walls and roof. It has gable rafters at 12’ with two lofts. Can anyone in the know comment if this stove is to big for the space, in northern wisconsin. Also what are real burn times, can I get 6 hours or more?
I would think you'll need to be needing to operate a vent at the ridge line. I can heat a two car garage with a loft but takes some time. The burn time stuffed is about an hour and you'll be loading it again. Plus the firebox can't handle big wood so I reduce mine to the size of a bat and under 16 inches.
If you ask "When the fan will start to rotate?" it's on 10:33 😉
The fan is well made and spins to beat the band but sadly I
think I need more than one fan to push the air around in the garage better. Who knows maybe someone will "will" me one as they are costly :)
I have never, in 50 some years of being around wood stoves and wood burners, seen anyone try and light a fire from the top. The kindling goes underneath the larger wood. Maybe it's a regional thing but in the Adirondacks that would be a sure sign of a flatlander.
LOL, I know and thought like that until I tried it. Man, I tried the other way most of my life, and believe me when I say I was surprised when I lit it the first time and how fast the big stuff ignited, I had to try again. Last winter in the house fireplace that was the only way I lite it. Worked flawless every time, so if a flatlander is it then yahoo to flatlanders. Others have tried it with success so why not try it yourself. You can climb down a rope or climb up... makes no difference as you'll always end up somewhere ;).
It's by the book (manual, page 9). It was strange to me too but it works.
@@SweeetJohnny LOL, thanks SweeetJohnny :) It works the best and I'll try and remember to make yet another video on how to light it.
All wood fires burn from the top.
Starting from the top is the correct way to light a European stove and gives the fastest start with the lowest emissions.
@@andrewstafford-jones4291 I found this by accident and glad I did. There is no right way to light a fire as whatever works for whoever is good enough for me. I don't get why you have to light it the "old fashion" or TV way because that is the way you have seen it done. Kinda like which sock goes on first... lol
in a 90 square meter house .. could it be fine?
I would think your location would determine that but in Canada, it would be like heating with a candle. In all honesty, I'd get a bigger one with a cooktop on it in the event of a power failure. The little Jotul did ok but was limited to a frying pan. Your house well insulated as well would be another factor and cutting the wood into smaller pieces and I could go on... and on... get a proper sized one and if too hot, make a smaller fire.
@@SheepyHollowCanada thanks for the advice.
What's roughly the size of the garage? Two cars, so say 250sqft?
Thanks for the video, a very practical demonstration.)
23 feet by 23 feet... just measured for 529 sq feet... plus the heat will rise up into the loft... kinda of neat I'm uploading another video on the little stove... for the 1st time this year... starting temp was 55 and it heated it up to 65 in an hour and 75 later... I'm thinking I need more air flow to move the heat better... maybe a small fan blowing directly on the side of the stove.
@@SheepyHollowCanada Ah that's a sizeable garage. In addition to that, I see a few physical limitations here.
First, as you say, the air volume of the loft - depends how large and high it is. Might not be that much.
Second, in the vid you have a lot of 'cold mass' filling up like half of the garage. This reduces the volume of the air in the garage that needs to get heated up which is good, the air will get warm quicker. But it increases the surface area of the cold mass (in addition to the outer walls) that will emanate and keep cooling up the air. And the volume of the mass is large, it will then take longer (a lot of energy) to heat up all the cold mass volume (stacks of wood) in the garage as opposed to heating up an empty garage's air and walls. In other words, once the fire goes out, the air will get cold quick if the mass is still cold, or it will stay warm longer if you already heated up all the mass. For a cosy longer stay feeling, the walls etc need to warm up, unless you're sitting by the emanating hot stove. This takes time. Hours, if not days. When visiting an old cottage with thick walls that's not a permanent residence, it takes about a day, sometimes two, to fully heat the walls up in mild winter. Only then if feels good. In my opinion, you can't expect a large leaky (uninsulated) garage with a lot of mass inside to heat up after just an hour or two of woodburn.
A larger stove doesn't get hotter, right? It has only slightly more surface to dissipate the heat. I'm not sure a larger stove would heat up the room too much quicker. It would, however, definitely outshine this little stove when it comes to the duration of the burn for one full load. That is, you wouldn't have to baby it all the time, just load it up in the morning, let it slowly heat up the room, and forget about it for several hours.
All in all, I feel that 'time' is the most important factor here. The heat transfer efficiency of your stove might only negligibly be improved.
Good luck in your retirement and I think it's a good idea for your channel to make another Jotul video experiment.)
@@Armstrongifyable Your comment really makes a lot of sense... thank you... The garage has insulated walls and ceiling in addition, 1 inch of foam board and new double pane windows. Once the side door is fixed I'll make another video to see how things heat up... We have a cracked cement floor that might get replaced one day and while reading your comments I thought if I replace the garage floor I could try in-floor heating and tie that hose into my geothermal unit. Then I could use the garage floor as a heat sink maybe.
@@SheepyHollowCanada Mm alright insulated. How long does it take the Jotul to heat up the thermometers from freezing to livingroom temps? I see you have a lot of projects.) An in-floor heating has a very large surface area, it then has no problem to heat up the room and requires only smaller water temperatures that are achievable from alternate energy sources/units. It might be too expensive, however, to redo a concrete floor for a water floor heating. Probably much more economical to put it in during the initial construction.. And most importantly for your application I'm not sure it's the right thing, u'd probably have to keep the garage heated all the time - heating in concrete floor is a very slow source of heat, since it takes very long to heat up the concrete floor mass, which then provides heat for very long. When we turn off our water infloor heating in our livingroom insulated house, the residual heat in the concrete mass then maintains the temperature for about a day before it starts slowly dropping. The other way around, it also takes about half a day to even start warming up the room after the tubes have warmed thru the thick concrete layer.
@@Armstrongifyable I have a ground loop geothermal unit already and if the circulation was tied in I might be able to raise the temp to the source... thus 50F if that is the ground temp 12 feet down. Then I could light a fire and the stuff in the pipes could go to the geo-unit and to the house. In the summer the heat from the house could go directly to the field and cool back to the garage... Might actually work. The garage floor we suspect wasn't put in correctly as the previous owner did some weird things we had to fix. So the floor water can appear in the crack and makes a good portion of the floor wet. The price to do it might be way too much... and yes lots of projects... always something on the go...
Hi, just installed a second hand jøtul 602 (early model no glass) in my lean-to my dog loves the warmth , the side baffles are wrecked so I've used fire bricks £90 here in UK to buy new baffles🤬, think I'll have a look around for one of those fans, anyways all the best I better stoke the fire and browse TH-cam bye.
Size matters :) Mine was new but wished I bought a larger model to heat the garage. All the best mate :)
How much was it?
I believe it was $1000 but there was also an installation with a chimney. My son has been using it this fall to heat the loft above the garage with just heat going up the staircase. When winter finally rolls in, there isn't enough heat to heat much of any space in the garage.
Great little stove, made in Norway. By the way, what is that warm jacket you're wearing in the video? Can you give me the name? I'm big and tall and they don't make jackets like that in Europe. Appreciate it. Adam
The company that makes them is Carhartt and if it is pretty cold out I wear a hoodie underneath... the jacket I have is 4x and I believe I bought it at Marks Work Wearhouse in Canada. You might want to spray it if you wear outside in wet weather. By the way I bought this heavy canvas winter coat after I had to return an expensive Helly Hansen jacket. Hope I answered your question.
made in Maine
Irving lol....When I lived in NB we were driving down a dirt road and we came to a toll both, in the middle of nowhere, yup Irving owned the road and we would have to pay to use it ....They were actually paying someone to sit there all day and night I would assume....Thanks for the vid.
Not in this block yet but I've heard of the other block having a toll booth. Lots of traffic going through in the hunting season and in the summer it is ATV traffic... and thanks for watching... I'm trying each time to make a better vid and now my son wants in the action :) so hopefully the next videos will get better.
If you leve the door open, surely there might be more heat coming indors, just like a fireplace, just saying.
It is best to control the door as the wood pops sometimes and I don't want to deal with hot coals shooting out into the room.
@@SheepyHollowCanada I see, my grandparents used a screen infront of the opening of the stove, and the heat was coming out in all the house. Speak to you soon.
Not practical. The firebox us way too small to provide sustained periods of heat.even a single hot burn on a real wood stove will get you more, longer heat on less wood.
The only way this stove would have a use is if you can build a thermal mass around it to absorb the heat. In that case it could be useful for a small workshop. 39/36 degrees is not that cold, it’s still above freezing.
Correct , my friend just put this stove in his small cabin . Lighting a fart puts out more heat . And those Jotul stoves are expensive.
that applies in areas that are inhabited all the time... the title says this is in a garage... the stove probably works fine
@@oldsteamguy My friends cabin is 20x20 ,insulated and finished out.
@@backachershomestead I was thinking of getting a bigger one and making a small shack to use the Little Giant in down by the big beaver pond. We will see. :)
Nice video what part of the country. We love wood heat. But hoping for a mild winter :) let's go n grow our channels!
New Brunswick Canada.... place called Burtts Corner at the end of the Dorn Ridge Road... been using lots of wood the last couple of weeks but the temperature has warmed up today to 1C or about 33F... almost warm enough to go swimming.
@@SheepyHollowCanada nice up near the sign post. Way up there. We are in northern Michigan here. Keep warm merry Christmas!
@@adventurerhoades Not the easiest place to find and Merry Christmas to one and all in your neck of the woods.
Wear a stocking cap man, u should know that.
I usually only wear the red one in December ;)
You built the fire upside down. Start with paper on the bottom and build up.
I used to light the fire built the other way around but I swear that building big to small on the top works the very best for me on my 2 fireplaces. I used to have a hard time with the bigger stuff collapsing on the fire before but now I don't have a problem.
Yeah Doug watch some more videos I have seen plenty of fires made that way, expand your mind
There is more than one way to skin a cat. I've seen lots of people start their fires that way.
Yeah "top down" fires are mentally difficult to understand but in a box with upward ventilation it is actually the correct orientation. Campfire you are on the money.
I've always know the pronunciation to be "yo - tool" or "yo - duel"...
I think your right...
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Thanks for the hot tip Donna... Have a great day :)
Lol
First thing you need to do is install a damper on the stovepipe. You are losing MOST of your heat up, and out of the flu. You should demand a refund from the "professional" installer! And if nothing else, stack firebrick up behind the stove. And don't expect it to warm the place in 30min!
I thought the Jotul stoves were not supposed to be choked down with a damper, because it would build up creosote on the glass?
@@blormpf1740
Not choking to full damper.
old stoves had dampers in the pipe because they were not always airtight. most modern installations do not require them. your comment is out of date.
@@blormpf1740 We just had the company that installed the Little Giant and they said it shouldn't be dampened as it is different than other models.
Its so small, all of your heat is going up the pipe. No thermal mass. Find you a good Fishers Mama Bear stove.
I wonder if I put a 1- inch chunk of steel on the top would help?
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@@SheepyHollowCanada I think even old bricks would help too. Anything to add mass and hold heat. Soapstone would be ideal.
@@MrHowieZ1973 That's brilliant... I'll check into that... nothing is better than heating up the garage where it doesn't take 1/2 a day. Thanks Mate.
@@MrHowieZ1973 I'll check that out also... :)
Nothing but negativity.
Not worth the money.
So why don't you close off the stairway and get a big wood stove? Seems very simple. Are you one of these people that jurist like to have something to complain about. I just don't understand.
Free country and well... I don't particularly like to be served cold food either... so I might say something :)