My $90,000 fraud update
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If Jim Browning can get scammed and have his channel deleted by one of these individuals, it can literally happen to anyone.
Hadn’t heard of this. On the other hand, there is a some difference in deleting your account (no possible benefit for an adversary other than “pride” or schadenfreude) and sending someone money/giving them account access (lots of possible upside for an adversary).
@@HappyBeeGaming He make a video about that a while back, fortunately it end up well but yea, the level of the scammer these days is insane
Yeah the scammers get smarter and potential victims can't be completely aware 100% of the time.
@@HappyBeeGaming I do t think you understand. The scammer makes you delete the channel then creates a new channel with same name but controls it. They then can ransom you for control back or just put shit crypto scams out in your old channel .
well it cant if you trust no one at all in life, its not that hard
In the UK, a recent change was made so that when you make a transfer online, it now gets the name of the recipient account from the destination bank and checks that it matches the name you entered, and flags a warning if they don't match.
This is even implemented in the states. Unless you are making international swift transactions the bank will verify that you are you and the recipient is the right person. Heck I use TD BANK in AMERICA (A Canadian bank in the US) and it does this.
In Russia you only need a phone number of recipient and you will be given the list of all banks this person has account in and you can choose where to transfer money
@@viv12348 I guess thats the result of russian banks being removed from swift?
@VaderxG Sorry, I don't quite get what you mean. But banking is actually quite advanced here, it's what shocks most of young russians when they are moving to Europe or US - how all the banking feels like 90's. Probably because we didn't have to deal with outdated systems, so when banking started developing, it was done with modern solutions in mind from the ground up.
I get that you mean something political by your comment, so while I am not at all praising my country(far from it, but I won't write about it that openly, sorry, it's... complicated), but IT sector from both consumer and worker points of view are(or were, many IT companies have left) quite good
@@viv12348 I think he more saying that pulling up a list of banks based on an insecure piece of info like a phone number feels dangerous.
And the more to it is probably some more security method required or some redaction of data.
You make it sound that I can enter any number and get a list of that person's back accounts
I've had my wedding ring stolen before. I believe anything over $2k is a federal offense in the US. I went to the cops to file a report in order to file an insurance claim (a requirement) and thought they would do nothing about it. To my surprise they got the police chief involved and immediately recovered it. I was shocked!
Sorry u got it stolen and glad u got back anything over 1k makes a federal crime
That's honestly pretty incredible, the police here in the UK are a fucking joke excuse the vulgarity, Theft " not enough resources" Burglary "not enough resources". It goes on, only way you're getting a police response is if you have hurt someone's feelings or they have some way of making money through fines etc. Disgusting world we have built for ourselves.
There is no federal crime of personal theft. What you are meaning is that in your state anything over 2k is a felony. (many states its $200 or 500). Chances are in your town there was a known methhead or someone that the police have had dealings with, they investigated and that person tried to sell it or confessed and had it. You will have a very tough time convincing me that the FBI investigated your wedding ring getting stolen.
You must be white
@@genocidehero9687 probably
If someone high up in the RCMP got defrauded, I guarantee you there would be a big and thorough investigation going on that would cost Canadians more than $90,000 to investigate.
Which is why Linus' take that MoSt CoPs SeRvE a GrEaTeR gOod is so naive.
He talks about how they're necessary and "anarchy" is a worse system. Okay, but cops literally did NOTHING about it, and private institutions resolved it, not the least part of which involved a friend of his doing something he wasn't legally SUPPOSED to do in order to assist him. That's "Anarchy," baby.
The only thing the cops served to do was to make things WORSE and reduce the likelihood of the positive outcome.
Because they do exactly what they want and always have
if that rcmp's income is converted from tax payers money into their salary, it becomes a government entity thats defrauded and has priority to ensure its not continuing or expanding into more government entities getting defrauded. an LEO thats not going to do the E of their profession becomes the ultimate mooch of society, doing nothing for something. on the other hand the people whos job it is to look into these things and help the victims are in the recognized position that theres a problem happening, on the scale they have that job to do, they are in a division, or department dealing with this and they may be completely swamped to the point they have to admit to at least themselves they cant help when it matters, like that fraudster getting that money out of that account and into the wind.
I know how frustrating it is when my grandfather got duped for tens of thousands in a "lottery" scam, he certainly thought it was a great opportunity to provide to our family in his twilight years that he was so blinded to logic and suffered emotionally and physically for some criminals benefit. my heart goes out to those who lose and have extreme hardships to try and recover from these scams.
Insurance companies like the business
Not defending RCMP as I do feel they are ultimately useless but I feel like csis may have done a better job.
I work as a Mortgage Underwriter and my girlfriend works as an Escrow Officer and let me tell you: This happens all the time. ALL OF THE TIME.
I remember when I was getting my mortgage, mortgage guy told me under no circumstances should I do a wire transfer UNLESS he, and only he, in person gave me instructions about who and where it was going to.
My former BIL (complete ass wipe and idiot) bought a tractor from England. Before he did that he was talking about it on a birthday party, and my wife was "wait a minute, this consumer program talked about embezzling money by claiming to sell trucks and tractors from England, so watch out", and I told him to put that money in escrow (about € 12500,-) but the dip shit knew better.
The money was gone and the tractor never appeared. But thinking he knew better then everybody else, he lost a huge chunk of money.
my debit card is now blocked with stripe, presumably because my bank flagged humblestore as an insecure vendor after some new arcane EU legislation was introduced last year and repeatedly declined the transaction. Nobody knows how that happened (the bank support guys tried to whitelist the transaction, which resulted in me getting a runtime error from stripe that customers were not supposed to see) or how to fix it, but everyone told me it will probably go away in a few weeks/months. It's insane that our financial system has gotten to the point where the people working in it don't really get how it works anymore either and just do what the computer says, while errors in it are treated like a mild cold.
Do you have any recommendations? Call the company first to confirm details of the payment before sending money? With large sums of money, it wouldn't hurt to take extra caution. I drove to another state to deliver a 25k down payment check to be CERTAIN it arrived to who it was intended for.
@@ashamane What we do now is call the actual person at the bank and confirm the wiring details on the phone AS you send it. Because lets be honest, very often these wires are being sent to foreign countries. Linus was lucky his stayed in Canada, but that's not usually how it goes. In my experience its usually China or India and as you can imagine its a whole other level of complexity when these people have to impersonate a bank employee over the phone in addition to sending the email. Not saying it cant be done, but they usually can't go that far.
Financial crime seems to be one of those areas where law enforcement is woefully behind the times, and these seems to be no incentive for them to catch up. It's baffling because as you said there are traceable lines all over the place when it comes to money in Canada.
how are they woefully behind? there really isnt much they can do, people who steal money aernt dumb enough to keep the money in canada, they second they recieve the money, its going overseas. the police going through dozens of hours of paperwork and legal work, for a bank to finally tell them "the moneys already gone" is just stupid. people just have unrealistic expectations of cops
Linus really should sue the company since its their negligence on their security that led to this.
Regardless if its their fault or not. Everyone should be accountable of their responsibility.
You can ask any lawyers and they will say that the said company can be held accountable.
Plus this will serve as an example to companies with low security on their system.
Unless it's crimes that that gain revenue, they are pretty much behind in all of it.
There really needs to be a way to take out financial gaining for police work.
@Unassailable Optimist you're trolling right?
@@swaggamesph3342 in the previous clips video he explained why that would ultimately achieve nothing.
One of the most admirable things about Linus is that when his influence fixes an otherwise unfixable situation, it doesn't lower his frustration with the system at all.
his influence didn't fix this one he just got some Insider information. But he still has this traid and i love him for that.
Linus is so down to Earth, he remembers where he came from. He's so genuine and I think that's why he has such a huge following (it helps he knows his stuff).
@@gilgabro420 Like with Eufy
Because he knows and cares that it would be impossible for everyday normal citizens.
In fact, it seems to make his frustration worse lol
When you catch a car stereo thief, you are not just dealing with the $200 damage to your car, you are stopping all the future break-ins they do, and sending a message to other potential thieves that they won't get away with it.
I think the knock-on effect here is really understated.
Who wants to rent/live somewhere where all the car windows are tarped over? Who would bother buying a nicer car or stereo if they ran that risk every day?
"Oh I wouldn't move there. Friend X just got their car broken into for the third time."
There's also the idea that this isn't a zero-sum game. The purpose of the police isn't to investigate crimes in such a way that it creates a net-profit, its to subsidize crime reduction through the government. Government entities aren't meant to operate as businesses.
Someone hacked my dads subway account and ordered food in a another state.
We had the exact time he picked up the order, his photograph on video, even the receipts.
The police literally refused to press charges…I don’t understand how it is not immediately considered theft.
Exactly. Like, seriously, the police, while generally are a good thing, ARE SO PICKY AND CHOOSY ABOUT WHAT CRIMES THEY ACTUALLY PUNISH, Like, A CRIME IS AN FING CRIME! POLICE COMBAT CRIME! THAT IS LITERALLY THEIR JOB! AND THEY REFUSE TO DO IT FOR EVERY CRIME!
@@jeremydale4548 That mentality can be pretty harsh at times. The problem with forcing law enforcement to always pursue charges is that everything has to be treated as a crime. There are many laws that are far too vague for that to work well. The actual punishment for various crimes are also all over the place in terms of severity. As long as law takes decades to be written/changed we need that gray area to exist to ensure a worse outcome doesn't happen.
When I was in college my coworker at a taco bell was attacked by a drug dealer when he tried to kick him out of the store.
Dude was caught on camera, clear as day, with 2 witnesses. Dude came back the next day and when the cops showed up the refused to arrest them and basically told him *don't come back maybe we'll do something*
@@jeremydale4548 well I’d disagree with your premise that the police are generally good but the rest of that’s true
Linus really should sue the company since its their negligence on their security that led to this.
Regardless if its their fault or not. Everyone should be accountable of their responsibility.
You can ask any lawyers and they will say that the said company can be held accountable.
Plus this will serve as an example to companies with low security on their system.
Sometimes police are not helpful. My friend had his car stolen. He found it and called the police. Instead of an officer sitting there and waiting for the person who stole it they just let my friend take it back. He filed a police report and nothing was stolen.
That's a problem with that specific police department, not all police.
@@My_Old_YT_Account wuh, subway??? Also a police officer would file a report if a teenager was doing something illegal. The kid would probably get a slap on the wrist and most likely not go to prison, unless the person pressed charges.
@@no-ld3hz must've replied to the wrong comment, just deleted my reply
@@ronch182 nah in Milwaukee carjackings increased 500% in the past year alone because police refuse to chase these cars. They don’t even try to stop these kids doing it. If they are caught, they only receive a slap on the wrist until they inevitably kill someone. Much more of a systemic issue than a case by case issue.
Adding and filling more jails is like getting more buckets to catch the water from a leaky ceiling, it isn't going to fix the problem.
I live in the US, and back in 2017 I was living in Dallas Texas. My house was cleared out while I was at work, to the tune of probably 20 thousand dollars worth of stuff. I had videos of the people who did it, and showed it to the Dallas Police Department, and that night they were like wow, we never get footage, this should be easy. A week later I finally hear from the detective assigned to my case and he basically said yeah sorry dude, you're SOL. My xbox even got pawned and they didn't go after the person that pawned it. Insurance paid me back about half that because I didn't have Valuable Personal Property Insurance for some stuff that wasn't covered by the normal plan, so I was just SOL there too. I couldn't get anyone at Dallas Police Department to even take my calls after another week. Shit really is broken.
Sucks man I’ve been robbed too I know how it goes
I mean that's just American police, I wouldn't expect anything else
@@sunbleachedangel As if yours would be any better? Run by Putin
Sounds like you got lucky. Believe me, be happy that the cops stopped it there.
@@enterchannelname7568 In the USA, there are many court precedents that declare that the police have neither an obligation to protect the public nor an obligation to thoroughly investigate crime. As far as the law is concerned, if police arrest an innocent person, and that person gets tried, prosecuted with nothing but an eye witness statement, and is sitting on death row, then someone brings them indisputable physical evidence that someone else is responsible for that crime, the police can choose to do nothing while an innocent person is executed. In the eyes of the American legal system there is nothing wrong with that scenario, and no one has done wrong except the person who was arrested.
Our system is hopelessly broken.
You can joke about the Politsiya being so much worse, but our police are trained to deceive and threaten law-abiding citizens into giving up their rights. Even if they trample the constitution they swore to uphold they are not held to the same standards as the general public. If a civilian shoots an unarmed person and claims they felt like they were in danger, they're at least charged with manslaughter. When a cop shoots an unarmed person and gives the same excuse, they're given a paid vacation or at worse dismissed to find employment with another department except in the rare instances where qualified immunity is denied. There are countless recorded instances of police knowingly and intentionally violating the law by invading land and home, illegally detaining, arresting, seizing evidence, assaulting law-abiding citizens, and then being let off with a slap on the wrist, if that. Meanwhile, they've ruined lives with their actions, costing their victims loss of time, finances, and occupation and irreparably damaging their reputations. And they expect them to be grateful when false, trumped up charges are dropped.
Land of the free, eh?
I had my identity stolen as well, $40,000 gone from my personal savings. Police here in Michigan told me that they will not even investigate the crime or assign a detective to the case unless the amount stolen is over $100,000. Needless to say, they did not solve this crime. They had security camera picture and video of the guy, they had a copy of the fake ID he made with my name, but never caught him.
Police are only for rich people silly.
Honestly it being 100k or more should be changed to 10k
If you can't afford to donate to the policeman's retirement fund, you don't have legal rights, citizen.
They may as well say they don't give a shit about theft if it's done to poor people.
I once had someone steal $50 from my bank and because it was “out of ordinary” my bank immediately froze my account till I called in. It blows my mind that this could happen for $90,000 and the bank as well as police are like meh. Have fun with that.
Wire transfers are a beast. To perform one, you literally have to sign a form indicating that you're aware that once the transfer proceeds, the money is gone and will never come back.
That's obviously not quite true, but the principle is there - the receiving bank has to still have the money and has to have a VERY good reason to give it back, otherwise they're breaching their own fiduciary duty to their own customers.
The money wasn't stolen from Linus' account. Linus was conned into sending someone who was pretending to be someone else money. Your bank can't stop you from doing that with your own money, but the other bank absolutely red flags that transaction for investigation.
Wire transfers are instant. Its gone. You will never find it. Especially if they bought crypto with it.
@@Demonslayer20111 well according to the outcome that is not entirely true lol
Ryan Boyer almost had it in that, unlike normal bank transactions, wires are 1 sided. That means that there does not need to be a confirmation of receipt from the beneficiary bank. You send the money and the other side automatically credits it. Yes, due to banking laws, the receiving institution does have to keep records and are "supposed" to due diligently screen funds for money laundering and general fraud.
That being said, after 10+ years in the financial field, I can guarantee you that the vast majority of funds which are supposed to be screened (smaller amounts are actually not part of money laundering procedures).
There are scripts which are run on bank balances and an e-mail is sent out to someone who will probably click "mark as read" without looking into it as there is no incentives for banks to pay people to monitor these transactions as they are never fund negligent or responsible when money is mishandled or stolen.
As banks are businesses, they will try and save money where they can and thus, jobs which revolved around compliance to regulations and various laws tend to be extremely low paying and under staffed as they are to real onus for them to maintain high standards when it comes to other people's money.
When moving I was defrauded out of about $1500 by a "moving company" I cancelled the move within 2 days of booking it, it should have been a complete refund. They refused delayed delayed delayed and then after 3 weeks said I would get a credit because of the terms I agreed to. After being insulted over text by the sales rep while on my honeymoon I called my credit card company. I was refunded the money within 3 weeks. I can happily say the "moving" company is now permanently closed as well.
That's why it's best to pay for things using a credit card and not cash or debit. It's easy to do a charge back and you are usually ruled in your favor.
Most likely the owner incorporated a new company with all the same assets, just a new name.
@@FadkinsDiet most likely, i was being stupid and when they were pressuring "you gotta lock in this rate" I should have known it was bs
@@FadkinsDiet Happens all the time, pretty sure John Oliver did an episode about that.
@@matthewlozy1140 A lot of moving companies that I've talked to refuse to take credit cards because of charge-backs. There are way too many moving scams out there.
Linus learning the hard way just how little law enforcement is obligated to do
Okay, so that is why we have now the "whole pool water heating" saga. Good you guys got it back, I can't imagine the stress the other people experiencing this same kind of issues in their financial aspect.
Someone tell Linus that now whenever Canadian Police stops him on the street and asks him if he knows why, he should start with: "Maybe you've finally done something about that 90K I reported stolen to you?"
I Will help you after you fix my god damn fraud
It wasn't stolen - he sent it willingly to that bank account. It's rule 1 of sending money for a contractor. If they change the bank details via email you ALWAYS call your trusted contact to double check over phone or even better, in person
I wouldn't talk back to cops, I'm scared to shit by cops.
@@matthewwelsh6029 it's fraud. They impersonated another individual to gain the money. Impersonation of another for exploitation is illegal.
@@matthewwelsh6029 Yeah and Linus also willingly parked his car in a place where someone was looking for stereos to take, right?
100% true story. My 200$ bicycle got stolen in Netherlands, contacted the police, signed a document with details of my bike and after 2 months I recovered it from the police. Just leaving this here so people know that there is still hope.
If there's one thing the Dutch won't stand for, it's messing with their bikes 😂
The truth is that even here in crime-ridden NY, the police check every stolen bicycle's serial number before they sell it at auction. As long as you record the serial number with the police, you'll probably get it back, though likely stripped of all its valuable components (Guess what? Thieves steal from other thieves).
That’s not at all a fair comparison because the Netherlands is a high trust society where is Canada especially British Columbia is a low trust one
@@thekey1175 high trust society, the netherlands? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bikes theft is Growing and Growing.
@@stefan-ox8qs High trust doesnt mean no crime.
Unfortunately it seems like the banks hold most of the burden of finding these people and getting the money back. I’ve been scammed for much less, but the $3000 USD I lost was so devastating I had no choice but to live with a friend to buy a different car
As embarrassing as this sort of thing is, thanks for not hiding it.
The biggest cost to many people that get scammed is the hit to their confidence and state of mind. The money is often secondary to the violation that has occurred.
That it can happen even to those who are far more security aware than the average person shows it can happen literally to anybody, and knowing that fact can be of great comfort to those who get scammed. They can stop blaming themselves. Thanks.
Someone knicked my new $500 phone from my gym locker. I filed a police report and their response was "It is clear the crime is unsolvable". The lock was broken and there are security cameras at the entrances! They only had to check a 10 minute time window and see who left the gym that time. Police in my country are shocking.
I found a weapon and the cop called me back 2 hours later and told me to bag it up. I said yeah its gone now. She acted like i did something wrong.
It's not just in your country. Police all over the world are not there to solve crimes that affect normal people. If they ever do this, it's a by the way incidental thing. Their main purpose is to enforce and perpetuate the State's power.
you assume they left in that 10min, could have just left when you did even after they helped you look for it!
You mean “killing” not shocking right?
What do you expect to happen? Does a DA press charges against a person for leaving a gym during a certain window of time?
I once had a phone stolen out of my coat by a coworker. Had them on security camera taking it plus the last known gps location of my phone showing up at her apartment, but the detective couldn't even be bothered to return my phone call. Totally open and shut case. Would've been done with it in a day, but no. The phone was worth $350 and I was making $7.35/hour at the time. It was a big deal to me, but the police didn't give a 💩💩💩💩
Well, if they aren't going to act on that crime, then you've got an invitation to be your own debt collector.
You'd have been better off taking a baseball bat to the kneecaps of that coworker and taking your phone back.
@@gblargg yeah, go to her house and call the police saying there's a beating about to happen. = )
@@gblargg usually being judge, jury, and executioner doesn't end too well on any end of the exchange
@@tiagobelo4965 than have the Police do there job.
Your perspective of 'lost time' per the amount of money, is absolutely sensible. I appreciate you so much more beyond than just the tech side of things. Love you guys. Love you linus.
Here in the US, I have had both my brothers identities stolen and no one seemed to really care when they tried to get help. So right now, two people are out being my brothers, no biggie!
I actually discovered this EXACT sort of situation at one of my customers. They kept calling us saying their copier wouldnt scan to email (which was set up with a Gmail account not an internal email address) after multiple trips of me telling them, look it scans to my email address just fine, it scans to your personal email fine, its something with your internal email service. Well, yeah. turns out their accounts were compromised and everything was getting intercepted.
My local police station knew a woman who called into the station multiple times a week with domestic abuse concerns. She died in a deliberately lit house fire only a few days after they started turning her away, requesting that she come into the station less regularly and to collate more information. The police there aren't total a-holes and have professionally dealt with a few problems I've had over the years, but it's a good example of how some very obvious signs of imminent (and serious) crimes can be completely ignored.
What? She called the cops to say that she's been involved in a domestic violence situation and the cops just started to tell her not to call? Wah
@@DavidGarcia-oi5nt She had repeated contact with them in person a number of times to report a string of incidents. But each report was treated separately and it was never flagged as possibly a dangerous situation.
@@jimtekkit why didn't she call 911 instead of going to a police station
Police can't save people from themselves.
@@Xnoob545 Dont know if this was the case, but a lot of times it isnt safe for them to call 911 and stopping by a police station while they are out can be easier and safer. Another concern for them is if their abuser hears sirens rolling up they may act rash and just speed up their abuse to a finite end.
Its a failure on the police to not notice patterns like this, a failure to the parents for raising someone to do such things, and a failure as their friends, neighbors, family, and anyone who knew the abuser to not call them out on it or put a stop to it before it got out of control. Its such a deeper, societal issue of people turning the other way or assuming it isnt that bad or that it wont get worse that leads to stuff like this. Not everyone can be saved, not everyone can be stopped, but both of those stats are piss poor numbers when talking about losing a life.
I feel for ya there. I had someone scam me out of about 4k a couple months back. Thankfully the bank was able to get it all back pretty quickly, so good on them. I have to give props to the lady who spent about 2 hours helping me out. The only real lasting hassle was closing that account and opening up a new one, just to be safe.
Interestingly enough, my dorm got robbed my freshman year. They smashed the keybox at the front desk and started going through dorms during winter break. Mostly just smaller stuff stolen, like my backpack and soundbar. A couple months later, a random traffic stop led to the cop finding an unregistered gun, and further investigation revealed that the guy with the unregistered gun was part of a crime circle in our small town that had been robbing people for a while. We got most of our stuff back.
There's an old adage spread by Los Angeles residents that I've picked up over the years: If you have a problem, and you call the police, now you have two problems.
In Russia it's 3 because the mafia is #3 also
@@singular9 in the us we solved this by having the police become the mafia.
@@clowdcole7947 No. Not even close.
@@nicwelch no no he's got a point
Every crime I've ever reported, I've had to figure out myself. Been told there was nothing they could do with the information at hand. And then I used the information at hand to do it myself.
@Thomas B🏳️🌈⃠ except if you're trying to get high without paying pharmaceutical industry their due share, then they'll hunt you down
imo even if the police don't investigate all the 'small' crimes (like the $200 stereo linus mentioned) they should at least arbitrarily investigate a random selection- else criminals can think "oh, as long as no crime is over x amount they won't even bother investigating"
Also, thank you for sharing, it's so important to raise awareness that scams aren't just 'your cousin in nigeria passed and left you x million dollars, firstly so we can all be more aware of anything off and double check even things that seem fine, and secondly so people can have more compassion with people who are scammed. there's such a horrible attitude towards some victims of scams out there- some people seem to think that because they fell for it they deserve it, not understanding that anyone can fall for a scam
They sure af shouldn't have the gall to demand more funding while giving off the impression to the general public they don't care about solving crimes.
Thanks to the internet, you as an individual can do more investigation that yields results than a law enforcement agency. My grandmother, 91, had her identity stolen, and $1900 put on a credit card. WITH-IN A DAY, she had the number of the store it was purchased, and the shipping info of the person who stole her identity. As soon as she called the police with the info, they were MUCH more willing to do something than when she first called.
Well yeah, they got to do the fun part of kicking someone's door in and shooting their dog without the boring paperwork.
Same situation I went through. Police opted to do nothing
Surprise surprise. People are much more willing to do a job when they can take all the credit for the work without actually doing any work.
Yea because they’re lazy af, if you do all the boring work for them they get to just do the part they like which is the enforcement itself
As someone in the banking sector, working specifically in fraud and scams, this is classically a Business Email Compromise scam, and I'll say its VERY hard to discern sometimes, Always verbally confirm payment details with someone at the company.
A guy my dad knew called emergency lines to report a stolen motorcycle, the police didn't care for that, but when he called the emergency line claiming youths were driving mopeds annoyingly loud they came in 30 minutes.
If he had not done this he would not be able to get insurance due to not getting a police report filed in time.
Sure they do good, but not all of the time, and especially not when politicians dictate what they should focus on.
Man Linus, You got REALLY lucky. That is alot of money. I unfortunately got scammed a few years ago. The local cops would do nothing about it here in US. My bank did manage to get back some of the money but only a small portion of what I lost but it still hurts to think about it still today.
I fully agree even petty crimes should be reported. I was once scammed for insignificant amount from perspective of this video (like 40 bucks for 2 game keys I didn't receive). But I reported it, provided all the data and like a year later I received a letter that the guy was sentenced due to plenty of cases like mine, which raised it to the level worth going through whole court process.
Oh and 40 bucks ain't much, but to put it from perspective, I was making around 2,5$/h (yeah, I'm not from US).
well you do realize you technically broke the EULA agreement by buying from a 3rd party site? just sayin
@@dalejrjunior1298 depends on the country you are from
The thing about crimes like that is that they're obviously not just after $40, they're after $40 across multiple victims to make it into larger funds.
So it's absolutely worth following the paper trail to find the culprits because the total sum of crimes equates to a significantly larger portion of funds stolen and thus a larger crime.
If I steal 1 penny from 100,000 peoples account, I have $10,000 it's worth investigating that penny theft because the sum total of the theft equates to significantly larger scheme of theft.
@@dalejrjunior1298 Oh no.... anyway.
EULA is not even really legally binding.
here in Italy after calling the police for these kind of scams (which happened to me as well), they usually contact the “Financial police” (guardia di finanza), which deals specifically only with financial crimes and smuggling. so theres actually someone able to do this job
Considering how hard the Finanza rawdogs everyone who makes a simple mistake on a invoice, they do have incentives 🤣
The RCMP is supposed to have a cybercrime and fraud division, it's just a matter of how much they care.
I'm actually learning Italian and am considering moving there (Job would come with me, very secure in it), this sounds like a good concept
JUST Like Linus said in translation "robbing people of their blessed hope" I feel your pain Linus brother I went thru something similar, the frustration and the annoying fact that in the process your trying to do something but at the same time you can't because the bank would tell you they protect your money but then they turn around and tell you to contact law enforcement and then they tell ll you other. God Bless you Linus, yes its just like you said, Stealing a part of someones life, meaning "Robbing people of their blessed hope".
I remember when someone tried to steal my motorcycle late at night. When I called local law enforcement and asked my rights, the officer told me that I should "let the person take my bike." And to remember that "a human life is obviously more valuable than my motorcycle." I told him I disagreed and hung up
I’ve never related to Luke more. Getting my teal-blue gameboy color stolen from me in elementary school was a life changing experience for me. 😤😢
I had a pencil sharpener in the shape of a globe stolen from me in 4th grade, so I can feel your pain. Pretty sure I knew who did it too.
This happened to me too, but it was a Gameboy Advance 😤😤😤
Same happened to me, they stole a teal gameboy color and roughly 30 DVD's. Went outside to cut grass and found the gameboy in the yard, must have fallen out of their pocket. Never seen those DVD's again tho. That was back roughly in 2003.
Wow, the RCMP were useless? Next I am going to be told that the sun is hot.
Back in the day my grandma started a credit card to order a computer for me from one of the top PC companies and the lady that took the order over the phone wrote down the card information and started using it the very next day. The card was only used with that lady and the purchases made was in the same city the call center was/is for that company
Did she get caught?
Linus describes a world were only big crimes would be punished but forgets to see, his 90k cad are peanuts for other people too. This is not how a judicial system should work in a free country.
Regarding the $200 car stereo: it always annoys me when people say that those crimes are not worth investigating. A lot of small crimes in one area are linked to the same couple of people. It may not be worth it for that stereo, but it is worth it for all the other things combined, and it is worth it as a deterrent.
While it may annoy you, the fact of the matter is that if this is truly a one-off crime and not some sort of crime ring, there is a finite budget that the police have to work with both when it comes to the amount of time they have and the amount of money they have. Thus, you cannot reasonably expect every petty crime to be investigated, because then there would be no resources for investigating bigger problems.
In a perfect world, they would be able to do that, but we don't live in a perfect world.
@@rustler08 sure, simple solution then: if the police doesn’t think it’s worth investigating, then they can pay for the stolen item. If it would really cost more to investigate, they should have no problem with that… It’s much easier to say that it isn’t worth it when it’s not about your money.
@@rustler08 But it's a snowball effect, choosing never to investigate smaller crimes is basically giving a free pass to anybody wanting to commit similar crimes. It encourages more people to commit those crimes and to move towards that sort of behaviour. Why not just take some guys phone if you know you're going to get away with it right?
It starts out as a single item, but sets a president that leads to many items being stolen, by removing the fear of being held accountable.
It's about investing a little to prevent a lot downstream.
one same couple of people of a certain skin tone
@@rustler08 Yeah, they spend that finite budget stealing from people and harassing the homeless.
They can't possibly afford to do their jobs anymore.
This is actually an important discussion to have imo. When we talk about scam victims there's always someone arguing "Oh, these people are so stuuupid. Only stuupid people are scammed". But that's wrong. People can have an off day. They may be Ill. They maybe scammed in an area they don't have knowledge off. Really smart people fall victim to scams too.
Which is why we need to remove have honest conversations. Thats the only way to ensure it doesn't happen again
Most of my friends would consider me intelligent. But I know that there's some days where my brain just doesn't want to function correctly. On those days, I become really perceptible to manipulation. Unfortunately, it's not something I can just magically get out of, and it's random when my brain does that. Anyone can fall for a scam, just by having an off day.
@@ashtentheplatypus exactly! We are all human. And to be human is to be fallible. It's not a weakness.
I'm pretty damn smart myself. But i too have my neurodivergent days when I just can't be bothered to pay careful attention.
This isn't really a scam in the common sense. This is a very sophisticated infiltration and impersonation of a legitimate business. It's an entirely different realm than nigerian prince emails.
@@maskettaman1488 They have different targeted audiences, but they're all scams nonetheless. For instance, as an FHA home owner, I almost fell for a scam that appeared to be from my bank that said I could cancel my mortgage insurance due to the value of my house increasing. It looked legit and I almost fell for it if I didn't recall in the back of my head that one of the bank people briefly mentioned that mortgage insurance would last the length of the loan, and couldn't ever be cancelled.
It doesn't help that I've actually dismissed true correspondence from my bank as scams, either. 😅
The Nigerian Prince thing is specifically for people who are less tech literate. Just like how I'm less mortgage literate, because I only have one mortgage.
@@ashtentheplatypus Unless your bank was compromised and the malicious email was actually sent from their servers, falling for that would still have been your own tech illiteracy.
really glad to hear you got your money back Linus, really sucks when you get hit personally like that, but it shouldn't take you having to "know a guy, who knows a guy" to get this sorted for you, not everyone is lucky enough to have that kinda of contact, as you have rightly pointed out, if they thought that money was dirty, they'd know exactly where it went, who got it, when it was transferred, down to the second, and have you arrested before you had your morning coffee the next day.
"we can't bother prosecuting shoplisters" leads to california having two people in competition to see who can shoplift the most. one busted 141 times and the other was 120, and that's just the times they were CAUGHT (and not punished).
shop lifting should be met with a decent fine. Non payment of fines = jail. Its a pretty effective deterrent tbh.
@@peterkent6250 you cant fine people that dont have money. a large percentage of shoplifters steal because they cant afford to buy basic shit like deodorant and toothpaste. im not saying there arent shoplifters that are just doing it because theyre criminals, im just explaining why fining doesn't really work in deterring crimes like this.
@@phelan8385Are... Are you saying that shoplifting is a civil liberty?
@@Quasindro they said "just explaining why fining doesn't really work". which I agree but still unenforced law is no law, if people continue to grab stuff and walk out the store without consequences sooner or later everyone will start doing it, not because they need to but because they can and it's only fair if someone else gets to do it too. and then businesses would shut down and fire all their employees just making it worse. non-prosecution policies are unsustainable and have to change, question is how long are they going to wait. until they get people out of state coming in for raiding parties?
@@snooks5607 What I meant was that fining works if you then put the person who doesn't pay the fine in jail, therefore it IS a solution of sorts and it COULD work if the system wasn't broken.
If someone can't buy a tub of toothpaste or deodorant because they are poor as in provided example it doesn't mean that they have to or can steal it. It just means they can't buy it. They can live without it. Is it an American thing that I don't get perhaps?
An example that I COULD understand would be stealing bread or other food because someone is hungry. But for some reason while it used to happen for hundreds of years, I don't hear about people stealing actual basic necessities at all (mostly because there are shelters and other places where such things are provided).
Linus would be devastated if he knew how bad some of the "secure" financial data is handled by big banks and institutions
I use to work for a local telecom company in BC... I'm sure you've heard of them. I uncovered a ring of people that were doing exactly this. They would social engineer the front line staff of the telecom company and gain access to email accounts of businesses who were using regular client accounts and not a biz acct. Was very easy for them to do this. Then they just sift through the emails and respond accordingly.
Turned out to be a group of at least 5 meth addicts from Abbotsford to Langley. Never did figure out who they reported to. But I know there was someone above them. No way these guys were smart enough to coordinate what they were doing. And that was only their side hustle doing these little scams. They had bigger targets and were very successful in it. The crazy part of this, not a single mention of it to the public. And there was all levels of government and rcmp involved.
It's usually a bad policy to let the criminals know you're investigating them
You’d be surprised what a few drug addicts can do. They easily could have came up with that themselves, if just one of them had an idea what they were doing.
Nice and informative video, loved this one!
Had my ebike stollen. Filed a police report never heard anything from them except the auto email. Not sure it ever was actually filed, because I tried to look it up a year or two ago and couldn't find it. Luckily my insurance took the email response as proof and gave me most of the money it was worth.
16:05 Having worked for Walmart and been trained for and having done wire transfers through Walmart's own systems, my gut feeling is that the workers at the bank that received the money saw the red flags of scam and took the necessary steps to report it. Now, 90k is quite literally 20 times anything I ever worked with personally, so this is basically pure speculation on my part, but if the Wire Transfer sent had a Memo about why it was being sent (Something the Wire Transfers I dealt at Walmart could do) that could raise flags to the workers processing the transfer. Even the fact it was an all at once payment for a small discount could potentially be a red flag, as it wouldn't be the company's normal accounts- If the bank even works with that company at all.
All that said, this story is a good lesson for everyone. Wire Transfers can be very risky, and should only be used if you know Exactly who it's going to and what the money will be used for. And even then that's not a complete certainty as showcased here as Linus and Yvonne thought they knew exactly who it was going to and why.
@weinerschnitzelboy That's a Possibility, but would be a boneheaded oversight considering all the effort the scammers went into presentation of their emails. It is possible but it would invoke a, "Really? That's how you got caught?" in me.
Technology are convenient, but totally unreliable in detecting scams
Thanks for the time stamp
I work in financial services in Canada and this is the reason why you're not allowed to take orders from or give orders to a client over email. Every order has to be verified by phone to avoid this kind of fraud
Unfortunately, this has been an ongoing problem with real estate companies too. Same problem. Hackers wait for the opportune moment to ask for money using the actual company’s email to be wire transferred because it’s nearly impossible to track down and recover. And in other cases I’ve heard, the only reason they were able to get the money back (when they did), was because they are high net worth individuals with connections that allowed them to make it happen. I imagine most people who are not in that position simply lose the money forever.
I work in retail banking and send wires pretty much on a daily basis. When the initiating party tells me that they received new and different wiring instructions within 48 hours of me sending the wire, it’s an automatic red flag. I have them call their point of contact and verify the wiring instructions before I will send the wire. If I still feel off about it, I alert my managers and get them involved. It’s supposed to be industry standard practice, but many small banks just don’t train their employees on how to spot these red flags.
I'm so glad you got it back. What a dreadful thing to go through. My heart goes out to you and your family.
This is a very common fraud now, one of our US suppliers was compromised and we lost a few thousand USD. To this day they didn't understand the issue was their end.
We now arrange a call with the original finance contact to confirm details.
Wow. Thanks for sharing this fraud scheme. You've made me aware nobody's exempt from elaborate money scams. Sorry for your loss.
Here in the UK, yes the bank would have returned the money, then charged you £50+ for a letter telling you that your money had been recovered and will credit to your account.
As tragic as all of this is: there's something hilarious about Linus making fun of Mounties in an even thicker Canadian accent
Damn sorry this happened to you Linus. Incredibly lucky that you were able to get that back! Sadly there are a dissapointing amount of people who are willing to scam others, and they get shockingly more sophisticated. I think most likely almost everyone will have been the victim of a scam at least once in their lives. I really like your take on viewing the severity of a crime based on the "time" it has impacted someone from their life.
That is insane. I got involved in a hit and run in Santa Monica in a Honda Fit shortly after the 2020 riots. The police took a while to show up, but after giving them a description of the vehicle, driver and plate number, I received notice a couple weeks later that they found the person responsible and he was eventually sent to collections as he had no insurance and no money. That car was worth about $10,000. The fact the RCMP will not take notice for nearly $100,000 theft is absurd and it's shit like this that breeds contempt and distrust for the system we are paying into.
The IRS when Linus loses his money: 😴😴😴
The IRS when Linus gets his money back: 🤑🤑🤑
Linus isn't American.
@@wta1518
wta1518 when a comment is posted: 😴😴😴
wta1518 a whole year later:
🤓🤓🤓
Linus really should sue the company since its their negligence on their security that led to this.
Regardless if its their fault or not. Everyone should be accountable of their responsibility.
You can ask any lawyers and they will say that the said company can be held accountable.
Plus this will serve as an example to companies with low security on their system.
Every company can be sued at the current moment right now. If you have an account on google, microsoft, apple... literally anything then you have be compromised at some one or possibly compromised. It is very common that these places get hit.
You must be American...
It's a lot of money but would that be a great RoI? Given the time, effort, and money for lawyers? The best way to get back at them is not to use them again and tell his friends and family not to use them again. The amount of money they could potentially lose over this f*** up would be than Linus might get from suing them.
This is ridiculous. Linus made the mistake. Wiring money over email with no alternate confirmation? cybersecurity common sense.
@@chazerrrr It's not common sense if not everyone has it. The amount of people that get scammed by things like this, such as Jim Browning to name a big one, suggests that the problem doesn't lie in lack of common sense.
Wow! Ye ol' saying "Pays to know people" takes on new meaning with this story.
Sorry you had to go through this. And thank you for being so open and honest about your experience.
Considering all the hoops that must be jumped through to make sure that any transaction over 10,000 dollars is reported, and tracked, you would think as soon as anything hits that threshold it should be easy to investigate!
Oh, it is reported. And then ignored.
I'm working for a bank in germany, and if someone reports being defrauded and there's a transfer to a german account, we send a notice to the other bank that the transfer number is possibly being used for fraud. If our bank gets a notice like that, we have to lock the account and you cannot pay anything, transfer money or take it out as cash.
We do need a police filing to continue, as it proves that you are taking action against a fraud or phishing event.
I feel like the “how much life was stolen” should be part of criminal investigation and prosecution. A millionaire losing a hundred dollars vs a minimum wage worker trying to get by is vastly different.
Yes, which is frankly what Linus is missing. $90k for some (a lot) of landscaping and a pool is a big deal, but the person making the $100 a day might be $100 from losing their home. Not to minimize Linus's near-loss, and I understand his point, but he was being a bit tone deaf here. He came off as minimizing petty theft, when it can be incredibly impactful for people who have very little.
Not a big deal, he's just reacting live and trying to argue his viewpoint, and obviously he's going to feel some bias about a traumatic experience that hit him, but just something to chew on.
@@KhanSphere the 90k isn’t a small amount for him though. That was a significant loss. I don’t know what his take home is every year, but 90k is still going to hit him hard if he still has to pay that missing 90k to the people working on his house.
@@gamertrem1884 didn't say it was small at any point.
@@KhanSphere better word to use would be insignificant. It’s not an insignificant amount for them. I assume (and again, totally an assumption) that it would be equivalent to a minimum wage worker setting aside 3-5k for a car repair. They spend months saving it and then it’s just gone. While you could survive without it, the significance of it is big.
@@gamertrem1884 I also didn't say it was insignificant. To be specific, I said "not to minimize Linus's near-loss". I very carefully focused my comment around how $100 could be a huge loss for some people.
had all 4 car tires and rims stolen from my car in clear view of 3 businesses cameras but police gave me that exact response. A $6000 “nothing we can do” at the scene hurt a little not gonna lie
Those officers should be fired and blacklisted from public sector work for the rest of their lives.
@@ZeldagigafanMatthew why the my are following standard procedures. If they looked into this theft that’s less time harassing homeless.
At the same time, they frown heavily on vigilantism, but what can you do, except deal with the situation and make them look atrocious at the same time‽
th-cam.com/video/yR2lgxy-htU/w-d-xo.html It is, what it is!
@@ZeldagigafanMatthew personally my big ask is capital punishment but I’ll settle for banishment
@@thekey1175 If by capital punishment you mean life without parole, I'm down.
Linus getting pissed off at all this really hits hard since hes usually so chill.
It's a really common scam. An old client of mine got done for 10k because the scammer had got into her email and sent a bill from the same builders she was using, using a similar email. When sending large amounts always ring the client using a number you have found externally and check the bank details before you send it.
In the UK no agency wants to take fraud seriously because its too much paperwork. I recall some years ago, telling the cops where the fraudsters would be and they told me to speak to Action Fraud who will log it and may refer it to the police within 3 months - this was about 15 years ago but card fraud especially is still not touched - gives people a licence to go out and do card fraud for a living with no consequence.
I have pretty solid evidence that my mobile company is actively ignoring the fact that they have hired scammers to operate their call centre's. Aside from some very conveniently timed phishing texts, I was receiving scam calls WHILE my service was suspended.
first thing I learned is, now this applies to even dealing with legitimate companies, never pay in full up front. ever. period. full stop, never pay the final payment until the final brick is laid, the final nail driven, the final screw twisted, the final plant planted. Anyone who asks or offers you a deal to pay in full up front is either gona scam you or is going to never show up again and will just take MONTHS longer to complete a job. never pay in full up front.
I handle various exchange Accounts and this is fairly common. I always suggest end users to use MFA no matter what and Admins to keep an eye on the sign in logs in Azure. if they do that the chances to get compromised drastically drops.
NYPD act in the same fashion. Some will just laugh in your face with a “ that’s a YOU problem “ facial expression. They’re not going to bother when it comes to that kind of situation.
Don't make excuses for a corrupt and most importantly incompetent police system. Your case is definitely one that should have been investigated and taken seriously. There is a reason there are different divisions. They aren't the murder/sexual assault squad, they are police which means they have to try to investigate a wide range of crimes, including financial ones. Period.
Financial crimes in a small scale don't generate publicity and fund, so fuck it.
@@luanrosa3022 except when you pay taxes on that, thats literally their paycheck. id do everything i can to get them fired if they wouldnt do anything about it
@@bradhaines3142 i'm not defending the cops, i'm sayng the system that they are into don't give a f about small scale crimes that don't generate publicity or fund.
@@luanrosa3022 what about 90k is small scale crime though? i agree with linus point. something like 200ish, i get that, its just not worth their effort, but well above a years salary for them is just insane to do nothing about
Oh man this hurts to even watch... I hope the scammer/hacker who stole this money really suffers. It really hurts when hard earned money is stolen 💔
I'm an insurance agent and we are CONSTANTLY talking about cyber and crime coverage for our clients - one of our clients, who did not have the right coverage in place, got social engineered and the owner ended up paying $100k out of pocket to deal with it.
talk to an insurance agent today about cyber and crime coverage!
This is what happens when you start treating public services as a business. You can not talk about the "ROI" when talking about crime investigation.
It’s not ROI, it’s limited resources. People are talking about defunding the police, and then turn around and talk about how they need to spend more time on smaller crimes.
In an ideal world all crimes are investigated, but in the real world, a 15 day search for a game boy takes an officer off of a murder case.
not really, we don't have that many murders in most areas around Canada
Even as shootings have shot up drastically over the years. every shooting still gets reported in the news...
Is it better to double property tax rates so more minor things can be dealt with or accepte that the is opportunity cost issues.
For example a rural cop with nothing to do can look for a 300 stolen stereo while a super busy urban one cannot.
@@hydromaniac7117 People want to defund the police because this kind of shit already happens, they literally are not using the money to stop crime.
This exact same thing happened with my dads company. They had gotten into his emails and when he left on vacation they emailed from his email to the accounting team telling them to pay for certain “fake” invoices ended up loosing about 130k between 3 fake invoices for tools. The emails were frighteningly similar to my dads and the companies language so it was easy to fall for it. FBI had to get involved it was crazy
I still can't wrap my head around sending $90k to anyone based only on an email chain and using a payment method I've never used for that particular company. So many red flags ignored.
The jew that wanted to save a shekel got out jewed by some low grade plebs lol.
We had that issue. We had someone gain access to our user's account. They hung out for a while. The solution of course was to inplement 2FA, reset password, and log out of all devices. They were trying to get a client to change their direct deposit information to an account in america. It was obvious it was a mule account, but in the end we put a stop to it and our accounting department figured out something was up when there was a request.
Thanks for sharing this story so openly, this is a fascinatingly clever scam.
Even working with a real contractor standing on your door step, isn't the advice to never pay up front for the work? That's primarily to protect yourself against real but shoddy contractors and much simpler scams, but for that reason reputable contractors should not be asking for cash up front.
Correct. I've actually been called in to finish the work that the previous contractor didn't do. "Hey, I don't have the cash to finish this job. You've paid a deposit (normal, makes sure the _customer_ isn't the one doing the scamming), I need the rest to buy materials."
As you can imagine, the customer never saw them again.
The advice is never accept a bank transfer detail via email. Always confirm verbally with a trusted source at the business you are working with
Scammers are the scum of the Earth. SO glad you got it back Linus.
Linus is on the ball with severity of crime being relevent to time.
so killing a 100 year old is free?
we are dealing with an issue of a guy that agrees to do work, takes a large deposit, makes excuses for why he can't do it yet, then eventually stops responding. file a lawsuit and find out that we are number TWELVE in line to sue the guy. contact the state attorney general and they tell us they are well aware of what he is doing and that it is illegal. dude meanwhile is still walking around breathing free air and hasn't been charged by the state despite the mountain of evidence. edit: his deposit is always above the small claims court limit but under what it would cost to go to trial. so he clearly knows what he is doing by making it a financially poor decision to sue him.
"Too busy doing speeding tickets"
Yah. Police around the world now are like this "Our hands are tied"
But are happy to tax people hundreds of dollars for going a couple of Miles / Kilometers over a speed limit.
And they're happy to beat up workers who dare picket the factories where they work, where the owners refuse to respect labour and safety laws.
Policing for profit
True. protection money is wasted on police.
We'd all be more safe paying protection money for a mafia than taxes for the police. Same things tho, different names.
@@o2dyt Same same? Police not allowed to beat the shit out of scumbags. Mafia very different.
about 3 years ago my mother bought a car she paid a $500 deposit and when they said the car was ready to be put on the truck to be driven down to Sydney to pay the rest. She paid the remainder $7,000... and yup you can guess what happened, the car never showed up.
I only found out about this once things had gone side ways, To give my mother some slack, she was 70 at the time this happened (so not very savvy with tech). She had sent the $7,000 through Paypal under "goods or services" believing her transaction would be refunded if something went wrong.
Once the car never showed up she put a form in to request the $7,000 back - Paypal told her they need 45 days to review the issue... when they final got back to her it was a simple no you're not getting your money back and they was no way to appeal the situation or even a phone number to call...
While that was happening I went with her to the police station.. before I continue here let it be known hat I did some basic snooping & was able to bring up the add (yay for archives) and it had the number plate of the car... from there getting his name and even ABN (Australian Business Number) was pretty damn easy.
So with that in mind I had everything on him.. the cops just needed to bring him in for questioning and take it from there.. but the Police just weren't interested.. to say they didn't care was an understatement... I was in genuine shock... I say this because every day I go to work I see 4 or 5 Police cars on the side of the road with their bullshit speed cameras & number plate scanners.. fucking revenue pigs..
You know the worst part, while we were there.. the cop my mother was talking to actually looked up the guy on the computer and straight out said that this guy is no good & hinted to us that he had prior convictions... and yet still they did nothing!!
I bet if that shit happened to one of the cops (or their own mother) they would be on it, investigated, solved & money returned before lunch break..
So the fact that even $90,000 would get those pigs to at least make a couple phone calls... nah man... something's fucked up!
Justice comes after they get paid and if they don’t get paid, Justice isn’t served at all.
I simply do NOT believe you. I have used Payal for some 12 years and have ALWAYS received a refund when it was appropriate
@@tilapiadave3234 i do...sounds like a gumtree scam seen them all the time..even here in NZ Facebook marketplace scams EVERYWHERE (legit looking products ...never get sent) got scammed out of a couple of hundred for car parts..similar sort of story went to the police as bank wouldn't do anything, police laughed and said it's a 'civil' issue ...scams everywhere now all police seem to care about now is locking you up and getting you into the 'system' or revenue raising with petty fines
@@tilapiadave3234 If you can spend a minute to type a stupid comment, you can also spend a minute to google how Paypal has fcked people over.
bugger mate ...sounded like a gumtree scam eh? got flogged out of a couple hundred myself from facebook marketplace here in NZ , i know what your saying great comment
Glad it worked out pretty quickly. I'm on month 4 of trying to get justice for a hit and run on my parked motorcycle. Its true about the stress and lost time dedicated to dealing with it. Sucks
If law enforcement wont investigate 90000 dollars, then they have no reason to exist at all. Whats the threshold? Do they only exist for million dollar crimes then?
Yep totally get it. When my 1500€ bike was stolen, I was devastated. And the police couldn't do anything, which is normal. How would they find a bike among 1 million stolen bikes each year. The only good thing that happened later was that I had insurance and got 1000€ back and bought a new bike.
But when it comes to like theft like it happened to you, I seriously don't understand why the bank doesn't do anything. The world is so connected nowadays, so why can't they trace it back and retrieve it. I find it so unbelievable.
That sucks.
I'm currently in the middle of fighting a fraud case of my own.
Stop making excuses for them. That's what they are paid for. I can bet the case would be high priority if it happened to someone "important"
Our local police constantly post pictures on their Facebook of people who have stolen from Walmart, and other big box stores trying to get leads. Not just expensive stuff, but things like food, etc. Yet if you're a regular citizen, good luck getting them to care. This is why I don't feel "it's only a few hundred dollars" is a valid excuse. If they can put that much effort into locating someone stealing food from Walmart, then they can put effort in to other crimes too.
I agree that in a utopian world every single case should be given proper attention. But in the ones where we live, even frauds worth 90k arent being given the proper attention, let alone 200 dollar stereos. I think we can all agree that we have to start with the bigger ones first and then move down
15ish years ago we were burgled for ~$2k 2 times in the same week by a nearby neighbour (best guess).. police were useless and rude.
2 years ago lost close to 80k of stuff at different house. Again police didn't give a ....
Take $5 from the local Target....
Linus is pretty "important", i think. He has just publicly put them to shame.
@@victortitov1740 compared to a Walmart or an Amazon the ones that will often get police response for even a pack of gum Linus is a nobody.
In France you can just tell your bank that this particular transaction was either not from you or you were scammed and they have to give you the money back. So the bank gives you their money and then try to take it back from where your money went. This saved me thousands of euros from theft and scam. It's awesome and I love it. Also if you try to fraud the system, the bank will sue immediatly.
"everyone matters or no one matters" - bosch
This is modern society. If you aren't viewed as important enough or if you don't have enough of society that listens to you. Then good luck on getting real help.
7:03 Actually not investigating a $200 crime costs far more in the long run than the cost to investigate it does. The more petty crimes that go uninvestigated happens the more the police will have to spend not investigating but taking reports on and the costs will snowball. In 2 years that $200 crime may have been perpetrated monthly, and the more times that crime goes unpunished the more criminals will be willing to do those crimes. The more criminals doing the crimes... well snowball effect if they are allowed to do it. It might cost $20k to investigate and punish a $200 crime today, but how mush will it cost when that same crime is done 200k times in the same span of time.
It always costs less to do the job right the first time than it does to repair it later.
Not to mention the increase in severity of crimes for career criminals trying to make more and more money. When you factor in prison time, it's even more expensive. We should be catching the lesser crimes ASAP to rehabilitate early with a shorter prison sentence.
Sounds like the classic adage "Penny wise and pound foolish"
No one likes the IRS, but this is precisely what it does as well. It offers the greatest ROI for tax payers in terms of reclaiming revenue from fraudsters.
Linus just doesn't believe the poor should benefit from taxes and all police work should just be for his class.
@@sim2er That's exactly what not investigating petty crimes is. It's just another form of maintenance that costs allot to do right today but will cost far more in the future if done wrong. Or pretty much America's current infrastructure crisis costing far more to deal with today than the decades of neglect saved.
I feel this to my core.
I spent $3.4k on a purchase of a badass AR-15 rifle, the Master of Arms (Strong Side Tactical) Enyo. After many "errors", taking over six months to complete, I asked if there was any way that a refund could be made. They said no, became extremely rude, and said to contact a lawyer. I asked my bank to file a fraud claim in the U.S. and they said that the purchase was valid and that I couldn't do anything. The money had come from savings from the U.S. Veterans Administration. And the whole experience was a real let down.
They'd hate to start investigating crimes that they are involved in. That's why the punishments are a joke, and why the punishments will never fit the crime, unless you steal their money.