Fujianvenator - The First Bird-Like Dinosaur?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ย. 2024
  • Fujianvenator may be the earliest diverging of the avialans, a group of dinosaurs closer to birds than to any other group of dinosaurs. It's odd suite of characteristics show that bird evolution wasn't a forgone conclusion, but a story of convergence, diversity, and eventual success.
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  • @EJBert
    @EJBert 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Really enjoy these videos on early avian dinosaur ancestors knowing I can watch their ancestors flying about outside my window.

    • @marksordahl8872
      @marksordahl8872 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You see their descendants flying outside the window

    • @randomgamerdude98
      @randomgamerdude98 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Descendants************

  • @Abominatrix650
    @Abominatrix650 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    They remind me more and more of basilisks, the more new species are uncovered

  • @gattycroc8073
    @gattycroc8073 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I know this is a pretty interesting discovery but when are we going to get another big crocodylomorph find. when Dentaneosuchus was described a couple of months ago it was so exciting to hear about a new species of Sebecid being discovered.

  • @PelicanMobBoss
    @PelicanMobBoss 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    2:02 That anchiornis fossil looks amazing

  • @alioramus1637
    @alioramus1637 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I have always found the line between non-avian avialan dinosaurs and true avian ones to be blurry. When can a dinosaur be classifieds as a bird? Archaeopteryx used to be considered a bird but no longer since the features that made archaeopteryx stand out tend to be common among paravian dinosaurs. Some call anchiornithids like fujianvenator stem-birds and i think that works. Also a paper examining foot pads of paravians suggested both Anchiornis and Archaeopteryx were largely terrestrial.

    • @RaptorChatter
      @RaptorChatter  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Oh, I had forgotten about that paper. Whoops! But yeah, bird taxonomy needs some better definitions.

    • @vinny184
      @vinny184 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A dinosaur is considered a bird if it belongs to a lineage that diverged from either the palaeognaths or the rest of the extant birds. That’s how crown groups work. Birds as a taxonomic rank is based on the monophyletic group of the extant animals we call birds, and thus includes all lineages that descended after their first divergence. There’s nothing wrong with the group birds in a taxonomic sense, unlike for example fish which is inherently paraphyletic without including animals that aren’t fish.

  • @patreekotime4578
    @patreekotime4578 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im definitely on team Pygostyle. Once I saw a cast of Archeopteryx in person I was absolutely blown away at how un-birdlike it is. It's just a tiny raptor.

  • @posticusmaximus1739
    @posticusmaximus1739 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yassss! New vid! I vote to call these birdosaurs

    • @Invading-Specious
      @Invading-Specious 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes, lets sit around a burning cross holding hands and sing kumbaya together.

  • @digydigdogdead
    @digydigdogdead 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vid.
    Also, where did you get that shirt it's sick

  • @2M3TAL4U
    @2M3TAL4U 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's great content! 👍

  • @sjzara
    @sjzara 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Does “bird” make sense as a classification any more?

    • @RaptorChatter
      @RaptorChatter  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It should, it's just a matter of deciding on one phylogenetic node to start it at. I prefer Pygostylia for that, but I totally understand other arguments. So currently no, but that's more because of semantics than something like "fish" being used for classification.

  • @troycoley-cn5bb
    @troycoley-cn5bb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing Video XD

  • @kamnale1317
    @kamnale1317 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are "birds" only the descendants of the most recent common ancestor of all living birds? It would make sense, except that definition would move if the ratites were to die out for example, because then the mrca would be a newer bird. Maybe a recently extinct "bird" also moved that mrca, so it wouldnt be a bird anymore?

  • @slizgi86
    @slizgi86 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Birds probably evolved after KPG from something small that was able to survive on insects or small crustaceans. Small mammals were too big for it to eat.

    • @patreekotime4578
      @patreekotime4578 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Unambiguous birds were around for at least 60 million years BEFORE the extinction event, only about 10-15 million years after this animal. Im talking about animals with definite flight feathers, grapling feet, beaks, large sternum, and a pygostyle and fanned tail. In other words, birds have been around for twice as long as you propose. Something about being birds allowed them to survive while other dinosaurs didnt.

    • @LibeliumDragonfly
      @LibeliumDragonfly 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@patreekotime4578 I mean, galloanserae were already around pre-KPG, meaning not only did we have unambiguous birds pre-KPG, we also had recognizable fowls already.

  • @Invading-Specious
    @Invading-Specious 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    probably..

  • @maozilla9149
    @maozilla9149 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice video

  • @ravensrest8824
    @ravensrest8824 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone know where he got the shirt from?

  • @mhdfrb9971
    @mhdfrb9971 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The real "protoavis"

  • @alvinip3832
    @alvinip3832 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Birds are raptors

    • @RaptorChatter
      @RaptorChatter  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's iffy evidence about them evolving directly from dromaeosaurs (raptor dinosaurs). But I also think that dromaeosaurs were very conservative in their ancestral body plan, but that birds changed it. So the bird ancestor was very "raptor" like most likely.

  • @TroyTheCatFish
    @TroyTheCatFish 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic Video as always!! :) 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 ❤❤💖💖