I was also a member of the IPHC and I used to worship the founder/ comforter but now I worship JESUS Christ the true Son of GOD I am a born again Christian now
POWERFUL-I now understand why she had to live this long and give her testimony about Jesus Christ. Rest in perfect grace filled peace mum. Born again Woman of God.
Such a powerful and insightful testimony ya Mme Emma. What an eye opening to this cults we call churches. May God bless and protect Ntate Mokoto and Mabochobocho
She is lying that we dnt pray Jesus Christ in IPHC. She is also a narcissist claiming 80% of the church members joined the church becuase of her.... attributes of someone who thought highlighly of herself. If it was all about her, how come the church grew exponentially even she left? Why did she try to go back to the same darkness, because she was turned back?? She doesn't mention she went back to the same person asking for forgiveness after going on to the media rampage.its not the first time In IPHC we always say we thank God through Jesus Christ and Jesus through The Comforter,The Holy Spirit This is the introduction before we say anything.By calling The name Of The Holy Spirit disregard Jesus? Does calling The Name of Jesus disregard God? We know that God, Jesus And Holy Spirit are One..that's The Complete God head..That is The Founding doctrine of the church. We believe That Our Comforter is The Holy Spirit, That is The doctrine of the church and Nobody glorified Jesus Christ like Our Comforter..if the world reject that doctrines that a human being can be representation of Holy Spirit it's understandable but The question will be if Jesus was Human at some point though he doesn't live among us now and departed this world and is still with us today,How come The Holy Spirit can't be in human garment yet Trinity tells us God Jesus and Holy spirit are One? That's what the world ponder over.. Our Comforter heals by word only nothing else..He doesn't lay hands on a man. She is comparing our Comforter with zondios and the likes but those people use oil and all other things this world.. In IPHC we dnt mix the word of God with anything ,no oil ,no water nothing material, just The name of God She doesn't emphasize that.
@@lauryl1170 Emma was in the church from 1977 till 2oo9 where where you when she experienced all these ? Mina I believe in her testimony. She's got no reason to lie. Why must she lie at the end of 52 ? When she lost all contacts and communications from her family and friends for over 32 years ? Yho ha.ena. bulegang Mahlo.
The problem with us people, we love church not God. That's why we follow church leaders and fear them but ignore the word of God. If you study the word and ask the Lord to guide you in truth and spirit, you cannot fall into the pit.
You are spot on. We definitely put our focus more in the church than GOD. We put pastors and highly ranked people at the forefront instead of putting GOD first.
I once attended his church in limpopo back in the days somewhere around 2008 I don't get it why they normally chase kids in the middle of the night we leave the elders inside the church
Eish I was attending iphc then now am lost And am still listening the songs that they were singing even now and Mme Emmah am still Loving your beautiful voice.
@@diphalemokgaga1977 she thinks we are stupid like her, she prayed Jesus now want us to get lost. And follow her in the dark world.. Thanks lord i m not that weak, if i was, i was gonna be lost. some people will drag you from the true path and make you go wrong ways thinking you are moving in the right direction. 2corintians(14-15)
We were poor, gogo still took her last cent to this church. She passed on two months back, after 40+ years of membership, they never showed up once. We hired a minister. I’m still shuttered for my grandma. She gave her whole life to IPHC 💔.
This is sad, I remember my mother lost her mother too and she was also a member however they never showed up. Then they showed me flames when I lost my mother😭
Mme Emma God is great he will make a way for you in the mighty name of Jesus, every spirit that is not from God be destroyed by the blood of the lamb in Jesus name. May the lord Jesus bless you physically and spiritually in Jesus Jesus mighty name 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@khanyisilendlovu7960 She's saying that people are lazy and don't want to read the bible for themselves, instead we prefer to look for someone to read and interpret it on our behalf. Whilst she was at IPHC she used to get angry at outsiders of the church when they went around saying the chuch has a snake that goes around licking the congregants[Taking control of their minds]. But once she got out of the church she recalls the day when the Fake&False comforter used to describe how he was using a snake to heal the sick
To me she doesn’t sound bitter, she is telling her life story and sharing her life experiences. Just like everyone’s story it won’t please everyone. Let her be guys! We are all humans after all.
i can understand when she says that the church should help people in terms of money(but she must also state that the church gives bursaries and scholarship to deserving students.., were it can,also the church takes care of orphans, since clearly her issue is money related with the church. however she must not lie about things that are not true, we know people who lie have tendencies to mix lies and truth ,e.g, before she started going to the church she says she had a spiritual husband( Tokoloshi) and because of Maatla a moemedi the tokoloshi left(true) and she could not conceive children( True) but because of the comforter she was blessed with Mosa and sithembiso(true as well) so now she lies and says it was time anyways for her to have kids.. the lady is bitter because the church didn't help bury her mother. I would be as well being famous in the church and south Africa as a whole. Personal i feel that she felt entitled to get money from the church ,she must just tell the truth that she left the church because her husband wanted to marry another woman and she didn't approve of that. Also she must state that she came back to the church hoping to be forgiven for spreading lies on the media after she left and the was a condition , that she must return back to the same media and let them know she is back at the church of Moemedi whom she claims doesn't worship Jesus Christ.. the lady she's bitter we can try to marinate it what ever way we Please but we know that she's lying. .Moemedi Taught us that Jesus is the Head of IPHC and he is the Head of the Followers, when a preacher reads from the bible is tradition to say this words in IPHC( I stand thanking God( Jehovah) through Jesus Christ and Jesus christ Through the Comforter(spirit of Truth..(trinity) so what does she mean Jesus christ his never Taught in IPHC.Mme Emma was drunk by power hence she even said she stood in the holiest of Place where even preachers could not enter..i agree with certain aspect of her story that the church can do better in taking care of the elders and needy.. but she must not go and lie about the kingdom of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob..
A dengerous liar is the one that lies and convince himself or herself that she is telling the truth, fame is a very dengerous thing bcoz along the it creates pride and self lifting or boast, with the music That was love more South African u can imagine how much money was made, which even to this date youth who were helped by church to go school in higher institutions of learning and we all know how expensive that be, there was food parcels given to the poor I myself use help the elderly to carry the food parcels, ppl who helped by this can testify to what I'm saying if ever they come across this comment, in her contribution to ipcc music she felt that she deserved more money from the church and that if she can leave the choir, the choir will collapse. When she fails doing that she then begin her rebellion, through the word of Christ the church helped many ppl spiritually, United famalies, helped the poor and helped youth as I mentioned the wars that is happening now in the church are of like her who thinks the church is making more money and they should benefit from it. We as black ppl don't respect black leaders we love white leaders if the Comfoter was a white man ppl would respect church. We are our own enemy and this is jealousy between a black man and another black man.
Nna ke paletswe ke lenyalo ka baka la go gana go tsena IPCC. I didnt understand this church till today i will never ever understand it. I always tell the truth cause that set me free and indeed it set me free from all the troubles of this world and bondage of marriage. Since that time the man in question married two wives after the relationship with me .Thank God for the spirit of discernment that revealed to me that IPCC is not the way to go one day i visited the church with my friend,they called us 'bakudi' meaning patients and send us out for a while. By then i am 100% healthy but i am being called a patient. I don't regret having separated with that men. I filly understand what Mme Emma is talking about. Thanks mama for having seen the light of Jesus and having accepted Him as your Lord and personal Saviour. I wish many could see that. Amen
The saddest part lies within the comment section. People are so focused on trying to validate that IPHC is a true church. Wake up people! Just because they mention the name of Jesus Christ does not mean anything! It is about who they say Jesus Christ is. They don’t preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ that He is our savior and only savior but they make it like the church leader is. Wake up guys! These are the last days, repent! And start believing in the true Jesus Christ
Thank you so much for this testimony may it continue to set free many and many of our brothers and sisters in Jesus name and we get motivated to press on on our salvation in the midst of our challenges🙌🙌🙌🙌
After listening to her, I don't blame, she went through alot, I am the member, and I won't stop being one, And whatever she's saying, it doesn't mean that Moemedi He was running a cult church, this church is formed by God's instruction but what happened to her was too much, I love you Mme Emma, and I will respect you, Mudzimu a ise phanḓa na u vha tonda
@@staffordchanda6136 well, that's your opinion and you are right.. But the church raised me, and IPHC it's not a cult but it is a traditional church (AFRICAN) church, that praise God African way, and that's a fact...
Mme Emma am glad you were the chosen one to experience this and you were bold enough to come out by God's grace. God uses people thank you for your testimony. As I was a child ya Moruti there since 1987 make no mistake the church is disciplined and moral as well. The teaching were good to a certain level and Yes ever since I grow up in IPC we never never ever bring our OWN bibles, I was perplexed as an adult when visiting other churches that I couldn't open a bible scriptures that was not taught in IPC (then) and I used to wonder why. On top of that the church IPC had all the money but never in my time supported in terms of disadvantage of its own members kids - Scholarships, Uniforms, The Needy but Moemedi drives a Roy Rolls and had 2 wives and big houses and wear expensive king clothing. We IDOLIZE Moemedi, The Comforter funny enough just thinking How/what was he comforting? God in heaven is a jealous God and can't be compared as He is omnipresent! IPC church building are Hugely expensive YET their Own people Suffer and they can hardly feed themselves. We never wear jewelry and we were neat which morally we grow up as responsible Adults some of us and we thankful for that but the gospel of Jesus Christ was not the fundamental. Somehow Ntate Modise lost it hence the church at its current state is dysfunctional and separated and the current leadership is separated into 3 churches-Wow Obviously it's because of MONEY AND GREED church money doesn't belong to Modise family BUT All the IPHC members. IPHC Members need to WAKE UP, The Comforter Modise is NOT GOD and The Members must learn to PRAY on their Own, Roman 12v2 Better now to accept Jesus Christ!
Mama Mkhwanazi nami ngacishe ngayi joina leya church because of wena nomama Priscilla ngomculo wenu kodwa nje kwaba khona into eyangikhuzayo. Mkhulu uJehova 🙏🙏🙏
Stop critising mmaMkhonazi, she is jst sharing what she saw, if you still a member of Ipc pray that God reveals to you the truth, if mrsMokhonazi is deceiving people Jehovah will deal with her, 🙏🙏🙏God knows the truth and he reveals to those whom He wishes to reveal to.may the will of God be done be healed mmaMkhonazi
They shal know the truth,and the truth shal set them free"thus says the lord.christiang let us go back to GOD's wil like never before for HE is surely coming and very soon!!! I think ausi otlamehile ho consult MOYA OHALALELANG nakong ya hona joale qha.christians word wide let's pray 4 chief justies mogoeng mogoeng.lets pray to GOD to protect him and his family at this hard time in the whole entire world.AMEN.🙏🤞👋
I wish my grandmother was still alive heee,I remember the stories she used to tell us about this church and the other one.Nna I've never taken these churches serious.
I want to make a plea to u. Leave my dear church alone. who told Mme Emma to leave my church??? I deeply and dearly loved my church with all my soul. ka mmele, pelo le moya. ur Emma is talking nonsense ka okereke Ntate Modise.
Ur grandmother was a witch she failed to witch Bana Ntate ( IPHC Kingdom Of God) that is y she told u things that she tried to do to bana Ntate nd she couldn't succeed, so kkkkkkk she reverted those evil doing to The Spiritual leader Of IPHC. Koko wa hao ne ele Moloi a fofa fofa le di chomie tsa hae mashigo ba batla ho berekisa bana Ba Moemedi ba pallwa.
Cynthia u should love GOD with body,ur heart and your soul not ur church.my church or should i say my family church is Dutch bt i dnt love it,u can say whateva u like abt it n even my pastor.i defend our father GOD,the Son JESUS and the wholly spirit.
Absolutely noone is perfect in this world. Only God is perfect. But judgement is coming soon, you can argue with someone about their belief but at the end of the day God will remain as God.
Beautiful testimony, glory to the Lord. There are many spirits in the world, test every spirit if they are of God. Salvation is not only for BAZALWANE!!!!
The Lord God Almighty our Father protect and bless you Mme Emma in Jesus Christ mighty name Amen. The Lord is with you fully. I love the fact that you are only telling the truth and your testimony is your victory over all those who speak against you. The more they talk they expose their nature. I respect that you are full of love for all people. Jesus Christ is Lord. Supremacy belongs to Him. I love you Mme. Let us pray for Africa and Churches within it. Ke rata gore in these last days the Lord is exposing all things that are not His. The Truth is moving on and up.
Jesus Christ is our father , the very Christ you worship he is the foundation of IPHC, Mme Emma is not exposing anything except deceiving bana ba Modimo..
@@collenlegodi2239 no sir The true Christ is not your foundation. I was a member of your church and grew up in it. So I have authority when I speak this and Mme Emma has spoken the absolute truth. Kindly open your bible and dare to invite the Holy Spirit who does not dwell in one man as you all believe but on all who believe in Christ Jesus. No man can ever be God. Christ is coming back. Are you ready for Him.
IPCC (Emma & Priscilla)make me fall in love with this church bcz of their music but thanks God bcz I didn't became a member.may their soul rest in peace 🙏
I was a member of the church. I left the church long before mme leaves. Gona le tuku e e tshweu, she did not talk about it but I will leave it there. She is talking about her journey and stop being against her because she is telling the truth...
To God be the glory because of her testimony & I hope the Spirit of God will penerate their soul to accept Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Its a pity because I became a staunch fan of IPCC music in 1991 when I was only 7 years, most of hym songs I know, I learnt them through listening to IPCC, and Mme Emma was the best leader according to me, I remember at some point I tried to convince Mom to take me there just to visit. She said "No, I don't worship an idol". I was heart broken but it all makes sense now. I thank God for saving your life Mme Emma, I pray that he elevates you, and promote your talent so that you reach a lot of lost souls through your music.
She left our church for her reasons almost 12 years ago. I want to make a plea to her to stop talking nonsense about my dear church.❤❤💋😀 how kanjalo nje.
After listening to this interview, it is hard for me to believe what you just said Cynthia,,,, I am sorry if I sound biased but this interview reveals a lot
@@cynthiamalatjie6473 This is a woman that is simply taking people through her journey, considering the fact she was a well known person through music, so probably this was a way to inspire more people out there to accept Jesus as their savior. I can understand where you come from about her revealing your church' secrets, but your church was part of her journey for over 30 years too🤔🤔🤔🤔
I praise God for her life and testimony and I really believe that she is healed in Jesus name. Our God is faithful, he is our Lord and Savior, many people will be save with this testimony God bless you mama
As you mentioned the name Ema, I already knew who is she and that church All in all I thanks God through those not afraid to uplift His name amongst the world. I will lift his name High
Babusisiwe abafela enkosini, ngoba bazobona umbuso weZulu, now you are resting in the hands of your creator not some people who played God. Rest mama and big ups to you for exposing the dark forces that are hiding behind Gods name.
Hi my name is Keabetswe, ngwana wa Sherriff i believe mme Emma knows who ny father was, i made my mum listen to this clip cause i know how much my parents were dedicated to this church. It really touched my mum how mme Emma has been through this journey and how the sickness has attacked her, we would like to let her know that we are praying for her❤️🙏
You are a blessing mom Emma.. No weapon is formed against you shall be able to prosper.... The boldness in is sign that you are led by the Holy Spirit... Glory Jesus... Fire, 🔥 in Jesu s you are protected... I have learnt a lot from today...
Truly speaking this lady she can say anything about this church .I love this church with all my heart am what I am today because of this church. Nothing that people can say can separate me from moemedi
Absolutley, that is what I told them le nna. I have made a plea to them to not speak of my dear church in publicly with their so called Emma Mkhwanazi. She speaks nonsenses about Ntate. IPHC ke thaba ya Ntate ya letlapa, no one will ever break it. I really don't what got Emma to go over the radios and talk nonsenses about my church & Ntate.
Absolutely, nothing will separate me from MOEMEDI ❤💋❤😀😅❤ Ntate ke tshitabaloi, o re fodisitse malwetsi a thata. a paletseng dingaka le baporofeta. I went to University because of Ntate bursaries. pansie ka Ntate pansie. tshitabaloi.
@@deesoc3371 but u must tell ur so called Emma Mkhwanazi to be vigilant & careful. she must speak about her church not my church. she is no longer a member of IPHC, so she should focus on her current church. nna I don't entertain her. Perhaps she is jealous. 😀😅😅😀 she should have freedom to speak about her current church not my church.
I'm sure the church made millions from the music, in as much as the singers were serving it's sad they didn't get paid much worse the church doesn't help the needy.
Church leaders rutang phuthego nnete ya Jehovah and his only beloved son Jesus Christ, encourage them to read their bible not Sundays only but even at their homes.
@@thapeloirvinselete1207 I notice you have a pantagram on your profile picture which is associated with Satanism, darkness and the the occult. You are a church of Satan hiding under a fake god the goat god.
It's actually not important to keep on defending the churches we're attending. The main reason for the church to be in existence,is for it to represent Jesus Christ. It's not going to help us at all to have the saying " there's no perfect church". Every church must strive for PERFECTION. Being like Christ is what the church has to be PERIOD!
I know its years later but I've just started investing my attention on this story. Reading the comments, I've realized the church considers the 3rd member of the Holy Trinity to be the bishop instead of the Holy spirit and with that alone, theres a lot you'd question
The part about the Bible makes sense. Bible and churt go hand in hand. But the other things... Ai.. Jesus is lord. But you cannot separate TB Joshua le Modise ba swana Mann.. TB Joshua le yena re di kwele tsa gagwe.. I would rather pray in my house.
Knowledge comes bit by bit we thank God that she has seen light about one. God will show her more about the rest. Let's pray for God's intervention in her entire life.
It doesn't matter but Joshua managed to alert Emma about the bible and all verses. We learn to differ. So julia was watching the TV show as Joshua was reading out scriptures and she was alert of what she never knew of. In her former church they never read out scriptures nor carry bibles to their church. Yho!
@@catherinekate4881 it’s okay. Not everyone has a spirit of discernment. SAns died at his fong kong church building. Imagine flying all the way to die in his church so called. You never learn.
Jump out of frying pan, she jumped on the fire.The TB Joshuas’ water is also kganyapas water. Mme must just leave tangible things such as oils, cloths etc, used in the so called churches because God is not in them.
I loved Mme Emma with all my heart and I still love her even today (Rest her Soul). However there are some discrepancies in her story. According to my understanding everything that is done in this church, is done biblically. Coming to issue of not mentioning the name of Christ in the church, that is not true. "Re leboga Modimo ka Jesu, Jesu remo Leboga ka Moemedi" Father, Son And the Holly Spirit. ACCORDING TO THE BOOK OF MARK 7:33-36 (Sephiri le Dipaki): "33So Jesus took him aside privately, away from the crowd, and put His fingers into the man’s ears. Then He spit and touched the man’s tongue. 34And looking up to heaven, He sighed deeply and said to him, “Ephphatha!” (which means, “Be opened!”). 35Immediately the man’s ears were opened and his tongue was released, and he began to speak plainly. 36Jesus ordered them not to tell anyone. But the more He ordered them, the more widely they proclaimed it.… Mark says the man was deaf and dumb, Jesus took him aside privately, away from the crown, he uttered a secret word "Ephphatha" in his ear (Dipaki - Key) and the man's ears were immediately opened and his tongue was released. after that, Christ himself, told those who were around him at that time, who heard him uttering the secret word, he says do not tell anyone about this, keep it a secret (Sephiri) SNAKE ISSUE NUMBERS 21: 8-9 8Then the LORD said to Moses, “Make a fiery serpent and mount it on a pole. When anyone who is bitten looks at it, he will live.” 9So Moses made a bronze snake and mounted it on a pole. If anyone who was bitten looked at the bronze snake, he would live. JOHN 3: 14-15 14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.” MOLLO ISSUE (Reason why word fire/Mollo is not called out without reason) DEUTERONOMY 4:24 24 For the Lord your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God. EXODUS 20:7 7 “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name. EXODUS 3:14 14God said to Moses, “I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I am has sent me to you.’” REASON WHY YOU CANT LEAVE THE CHURCH MATTHEW 12: 43-45 43 “When the unclean spirit has gone out of a person, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, but finds none. 44 Then it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when it comes, it finds the house empty, swept, and put in order. 45 Then it goes and brings with it seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they enter and dwell there, and the last state of that person is worse than the first. So also will it be with this evil generation.” DOES THIS MEAN THE BIBLE IS EVIL?
Jesus Never did thungs in secret You are a liar if i was secret we would know by now and secondly You saying He whispered dipaki what is that have you read the bible where its said dipaki which is witnesses. Please dont deceive and change the Word of God This is why you people are under another mans spell
Is so sad how people can pray a person and call him god, Matthew 23.8 but you are not to be called Rabbi for you have one Teacher and you are all brothers.9and do not call anyone on earth father for you have one Father and he is in heaven.10 nor are you to be called instructors for you have one Instructor the Messiah
Read your Bible know the truth,and the sprit of God guide us in situation as such,as He say He will never leave or forsake us,He will always give a lead and show you what to do or where to go
Until the Most High shall visit the earth, coming Himself as man, with men eating and drinking, and breaking the head of the dragon in the water. WE NEED TO READ MORE
The is no Kingdom that can stand against it's self, if a kingdom stands against it self , it will not progress, So if moemedi worships Satan according to the world , Then why Baloi ba motshaba(why are witches afraid of Him, How is it his children witches can not bewitch us, as Emma stated??
@@cynthiamalatjie6473 one of the commandments e re," Le seke la etirela medimo gobane ke nna Jehovah Modimo wa lena". I'm not going to argue with you my dear. Go read your bible and let the Holy Ghost open your eyes. The bible says my people perish because of lack of knowledge.
@@lauryl1170 Spirit is not man. Was Molise omnipresent? Was he omniscient? Was he omnipotent? Jesus went to heaven and so that He can be all that. If Molise was Spirit then why is he dead? Then his son is the one that took over the family business. Bathong le loilwe ke mang?
Power is such a dangerous drug. The founder of this church started off as a member of the ZCC. He had a fall out with lekganyane and decided to start his own thing. It’s sad to see that he was so power hungry that he even wanted to surpass God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I’m a non believer and I think, pastors also know religion is a gimmick. If they knew that there was a god they wouldn’t be playing with people like this.
@@koketsokaym234 his calling was so strong that he thought he was more powerful than the holy trinity? Mam he started a cult and like all other Cult leaders, he was power hungry. This is why hierarchy is everything I’m this church. Nothing about this church is godly
Well Mme Emma as a South African has a right to ventilate or air her own views. It however appears that she was not listening or asking questions where she did not understand from ordinary members of the church or even Reverends. God, Jesus and Moemedi (holy spirit) is the holy trinity. God sent Jesus, and after 3 and half yrs Jesus indicated that he will send Moemedi (Holy spirit) see (John 13:20, John 14:16, John 15:26, 16:5-15). IPHC is one of the cleanest church to date (Mmuso wa Modimo) we do not use anything to enhance us like water and holy oils, we are taught to trust solely in God, but we also taught that to respect fellow human beings as they are made in the image of God. In IPHC we know that a human being is God (because of that image). If her intention is to bad name the church on the contrary, she is not doing a disservice to the church she is simply promoting this Kingdom of God (IPHC) so that those in the dark will know about this church.
@@staffordchanda6136 Cult? Actually, it is the other way round, all churches that call themselves Christians today worship Satan unaware. Prior to Christianity the Romans, Greeks, and other Caucasians worshiped the Sun (hence Sunday). Jesus was a Jew (in fact a Judean by birth), and he either spoke Hebrew or Aramaic at that time as a home language, but then Greek was a spoken language just as English today. Easter as well has nothing to do with Judeism or True Christianity, in the German language, it is referred to as Oester (something that has to do with the Sun shining), hence east (meaning where the sun comes from). Oester or Ishtar in the Assyrian language is the fidelity Goddess. Constantine the Roman emperor and the council of Nicea after adopting Christianity as their religion corrupted it and mixed it with their old Roman religious practices, and there Sunday emerged as the worship day. Why would Christianity in its corrupt form be imposed on other nations, now as recently just prior to 1994 in South Africa, and it was imposed by force, particularly on the Africans. However that has been the practice all over the world where Europeans conquered, and they did not succeed that much in the east as in the west and center (Africa). Paul and Peter preached true Christianity and there were some churches in the middle east that followed that true doctrine but were suppressed as the Romans were wielding the axe, perhaps that is why secret churches emerged at that time until today. The true doctrine of Jesus as was taught by Paulus, Peter, and other disciples of Christ is dead, and there is only one place to get it which is IPHC, because it is being taught by the Comforter himself because Jesus was also a comforter and God at the same time, even an ordinary human being is a God because he or she is created in the image of God. (see John 10:34).
GOD is not an image, GOD IS GOD, HOLY SPIRIT cannot be a person, it is a spirit, still can't say moemodi wa hao ke HOLY SPIRIT, And not need to convince anybody about your believe, be at peace bcuz is what you believe in
@@dikeledisekhabisa3848 Jesus was also Moemedi/Comforter (Paraclete from Greek) Paragalitha in Hebrew ( Hebrew is a Bantu language) or in Setswana leparaga or simply put an intermediate between Heaven and Earth or God and Humans. See John 14:16 and 1 John 2:1. A human being (Motho) is invincible to the eye, and motho is the image of God.
She didn't even own a car.. I wonder what was happening with royalties Bcz their music was not only bought by the church members.. Really this is surprising.. And the owner of that church owns the most expensive cars
That family is so obsessed with money, everything is all about money there. Look at the triple faction that is currently taking place there, 3 of them need that power because they know it comes with a lot of money
I remember the last Time Ntate Modise explained in the church about a dream of a big tree shaken by a Strong wind doves fell off and eaten by pig's symbolize weak Church member's are going to be betrayed by Church leaders and authorities she is one of those dove's fallen after his passing(Ntate)
The woman is simply giving her testimony, taking us through her journey, unfortunately along the way she was bound to expose some things that some of these staunch followers of the church would not be happy about.
Is one of two with God; he protects or punish. This was a biggest mistake. IPHC gates are open to everyone to visit and nobody has ever been forced to join or remain in. But publicising false opinions might mean self distruction. Amen.
She went from 1 scam to another 💔😭 she should've just stayed in the churches she mentioned clearly she had a calling ya postola but we Africans do not want to accept ourselves.
O bua nnete. Born again Christian church is creepy and vicious. If you don't believe, scrutinize Major one, Odeyepo, Lesego Daniel, TB Joshua etc list is long
Ekwa the presenter o reng🤣 ... o re wat if bana ba sesi Ema a nang le bona, e be e le nako gore a ba fonane, ga se modimo wa kreke yela a ba fileng yena, mara wa lebala gore ba Israel e be e le nako gore batšwe egepita mara gobe go nyakega Moshe gore baka leo le phethege. Jwale le yena gore a fomane bana, e be e le nako mara go be go nyakega the Comforter gore baka leo le phethege
Gabotse Emma o nyakang no kerekeng ya rona???? she will soon be exposed le yena segafi seo sa lena Emma mkhwanazi. Emma ga re mo kolote selo mo kerekeng ya rena.
@@lesibalesleymasenya6466 absolutely, this is kind of true. This radio station must fall. Emma once to Ntate ko Silo to ask for forgiveness. Ntate asked her to first go to the media to unsay all the things that she was saying over the radio. But Emma didn't go to the media to unsay all of her negative things.
A friend of mine once told me that everytime at her house there's a new born baby a snake would be seen in the yard...I knew right there that something is off in that church clearly her father has made sacrifices with the church and the family doesn't even know they are all just blindly following him and he's following the church I think the father knows very well what covenant he signed at church...
Ntate Modise left the ZCC church to start his own church. Until He reached his untimely death, he never criticized ZCC. Mme Emma leaves IPCC why must a nyefole jwale. She must just enjoy her newly found faith and keep quite. Wa fafathla nje. She appears bitter if anything. She must leave IPCC with peace. No need to stoop that low.
@Ellen Mme Emma is NOT Stooping low like the bible says Whatever happens in the dark it will come to light. The time is now. I am happy Mme Emma accepted the Jesus Christ as the Lord and saviour and LEFT IDOLATRY. Amen oh Lord, Your timing is PERFECT!
I was also a member of the IPHC and I used to worship the founder/ comforter but now I worship JESUS Christ the true Son of GOD
I am a born again Christian now
Hallelujah! Bless you Neo
@@cathydicksonn God is good
God is good..
@@tebohosamuel36 all the time
Born again Christian churches have same problem
POWERFUL-I now understand why she had to live this long and give her testimony about Jesus Christ. Rest in perfect grace filled peace mum. Born again Woman of God.
Am soo happy Dat before she passed away she told the whole South African the truth she is a peaceful place now
M also glad too ey we from far but God shows love🙏🙏🙏😔😔
May you interpret to me my dear,l need to hear the testimony.
Such a powerful and insightful testimony ya Mme Emma.
What an eye opening to this cults we call churches.
May God bless and protect Ntate Mokoto and Mabochobocho
Emma you are also misled. When is jesus coming. Where is he going to arrive. That's a miracle that will never ever happen.
@@mphomangole3768 The Lord is my shepherd ✝️
This woman has a testimony, I bless the lord for you and we love u Mama Emma.❤️
She is lying that we dnt pray Jesus Christ in IPHC. She is also a narcissist claiming 80% of the church members joined the church becuase of her.... attributes of someone who thought highlighly of herself.
If it was all about her, how come the church grew exponentially even she left?
Why did she try to go back to the same darkness, because she was turned back??
She doesn't mention she went back to the same person asking for forgiveness after going on to the media rampage.its not the first time
In IPHC we always say we thank God through Jesus Christ and Jesus through The Comforter,The Holy Spirit
This is the introduction before we say anything.By calling The name Of The Holy Spirit disregard Jesus? Does calling The Name of Jesus disregard God?
We know that God, Jesus And Holy Spirit are One..that's The Complete God head..That is The Founding doctrine of the church.
We believe That Our Comforter is The Holy Spirit, That is The doctrine of the church and Nobody glorified Jesus Christ like Our Comforter..if the world reject that doctrines that a human being can be representation of Holy Spirit it's understandable but The question will be if Jesus was Human at some point though he doesn't live among us now and departed this world and is still with us today,How come The Holy Spirit can't be in human garment yet Trinity tells us God Jesus and Holy spirit are One?
That's what the world ponder over..
Our Comforter heals by word only nothing else..He doesn't lay hands on a man.
She is comparing our Comforter with zondios and the likes but those people use oil and all other things this world..
In IPHC we dnt mix the word of God with anything ,no oil ,no water nothing material, just The name of God
She doesn't emphasize that.
@@lauryl1170 Emma was in the church from 1977 till 2oo9 where where you when she experienced all these ? Mina I believe in her testimony. She's got no reason to lie. Why must she lie at the end of 52 ? When she lost all contacts and communications from her family and friends for over 32 years ? Yho ha.ena. bulegang Mahlo.
Haven’t heard why she left the church in 2009?
Kabelo Masehla Thank u
Laury L If you believe that your comforter is the Holy Spirit, does any of you speak in tongues at church? You must be a young person, u know nothing
She is an amazing vessel of the kingdom of God. Aaahhh what manner of grace is this, keep running the race mme the Lord is on your side
Great testimony from pastor Emma.. May her soul rest in Glory. blessed woman of God
The problem with us people, we love church not God. That's why we follow church leaders and fear them but ignore the word of God. If you study the word and ask the Lord to guide you in truth and spirit, you cannot fall into the pit.
Amen
Dat true
You are spot on. We definitely put our focus more in the church than GOD. We put pastors and highly ranked people at the forefront instead of putting GOD first.
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Thanks
Growing up in the church, some things never made sense..Thank you mme Emma...😇
Yoh, but we never questioned. Go tswa daar ke ka grace fela! Feeeela.
I once attended his church in limpopo back in the days somewhere around 2008 I don't get it why they normally chase kids in the middle of the night we leave the elders inside the church
Eish I was attending iphc then now am lost And am still listening the songs that they were singing even now and Mme Emmah am still Loving your beautiful voice.
No you are not lost. You are loved by God hence you escaped from the cult. Pray hard you are on the right way
What do you say when Emma says they don't talk abt Jesus,ontop of she mention his(Jesus) name on some of her track
@@diphalemokgaga1977 she thinks we are stupid like her, she prayed Jesus now want us to get lost. And follow her in the dark world.. Thanks lord i m not that weak, if i was, i was gonna be lost. some people will drag you from the true path and make you go wrong ways thinking you are moving in the right direction. 2corintians(14-15)
Thanks for the revelation & confidence in Jesus.
We were poor, gogo still took her last cent to this church. She passed on two months back, after 40+ years of membership, they never showed up once. We hired a minister. I’m still shuttered for my grandma. She gave her whole life to IPHC 💔.
This is sad, I remember my mother lost her mother too and she was also a member however they never showed up. Then they showed me flames when I lost my mother😭
strange church indeed
askies mntase....🤔ngomakhelwane bam aba in Meadowlands eSoweto.....🤦🤦🤦🤔🤔🤔😏😏strange church indeed
IpHC is a cult,I was a member,Modise was a zcc member,he was the last man to be initiated by Kgotso Sethuntsa who signed contract with water serpent 🐍
@@beatricegcobisamtirara4274Have you ever seen anyone there at that house?
Most people who think Emma is wrong they might be under a cult or they just don't know the difference 😂😂😂
Mme Emma God is great he will make a way for you in the mighty name of Jesus, every spirit that is not from God be destroyed by the blood of the lamb in Jesus name. May the lord Jesus bless you physically and spiritually in Jesus Jesus mighty name 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Amen 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I thank God for this testimony.
Amen
I will always come back to this clip. Reminds me of the mercy of God.
Hie dear, can you please translate for me
Me olso
I am listening to this clip everyday, may her precious soul rest in peace mme Emma
@@khanyisilendlovu7960 She's saying that people are lazy and don't want to read the bible for themselves, instead we prefer to look for someone to read and interpret it on our behalf.
Whilst she was at IPHC she used to get angry at outsiders of the church when they went around saying the chuch has a snake that goes around licking the congregants[Taking control of their minds].
But once she got out of the church she recalls the day when the Fake&False comforter used to describe how he was using a snake to heal the sick
@@DRAphane Thanks
As long as your faith is aligned to a person, you will always defend the indefensible. May she find peace.
This is absolutely true, faith should solely and firmly be rooted in God
After Listening To This... Without any doubts... This Mom IS In Heaven 🙌 A Great Soldier INDEED 🙏
I have respect for this lady
Le nna truly. We bless her
I also respect her
At least she got to meet the real Jesus not a charlatan
Bless you Mme Emma
Emmah thank for exposing...🙏
To me she doesn’t sound bitter, she is telling her life story and sharing her life experiences. Just like everyone’s story it won’t please everyone. Let her be guys! We are all humans after all.
Emma Mkhwanazi
I agree
She doesn't sound bitter at all, she's talking about her encounter
i can understand when she says that the church should help people in terms of money(but she must also state that the church gives bursaries and scholarship to deserving students.., were it can,also the church takes care of orphans, since clearly her issue is money related with the church. however she must not lie about things that are not true, we know people who lie have tendencies to mix lies and truth ,e.g, before she started going to the church she says she had a spiritual husband( Tokoloshi) and because of Maatla a moemedi the tokoloshi left(true) and she could not conceive children( True) but because of the comforter she was blessed with Mosa and sithembiso(true as well) so now she lies and says it was time anyways for her to have kids.. the lady is bitter because the church didn't help bury her mother. I would be as well being famous in the church and south Africa as a whole. Personal i feel that she felt entitled to get money from the church ,she must just tell the truth that she left the church because her husband wanted to marry another woman and she didn't approve of that. Also she must state that she came back to the church hoping to be forgiven for spreading lies on the media after she left and the was a condition , that she must return back to the same media and let them know she is back at the church of Moemedi whom she claims doesn't worship Jesus Christ.. the lady she's bitter we can try to marinate it what ever way we Please but we know that she's lying. .Moemedi Taught us that Jesus is the Head of IPHC and he is the Head of the Followers, when a preacher reads from the bible is tradition to say this words in IPHC( I stand thanking God( Jehovah) through Jesus Christ and Jesus christ Through the Comforter(spirit of Truth..(trinity) so what does she mean Jesus christ his never Taught in IPHC.Mme Emma was drunk by power hence she even said she stood in the holiest of Place where even preachers could not enter..i agree with certain aspect of her story that the church can do better in taking care of the elders and needy.. but she must not go and lie about the kingdom of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob..
A dengerous liar is the one that lies and convince himself or herself that she is telling the truth, fame is a very dengerous thing bcoz along the it creates pride and self lifting or boast, with the music That was love more South African u can imagine how much money was made, which even to this date youth who were helped by church to go school in higher institutions of learning and we all know how expensive that be, there was food parcels given to the poor I myself use help the elderly to carry the food parcels, ppl who helped by this can testify to what I'm saying if ever they come across this comment, in her contribution to ipcc music she felt that she deserved more money from the church and that if she can leave the choir, the choir will collapse. When she fails doing that she then begin her rebellion, through the word of Christ the church helped many ppl spiritually, United famalies, helped the poor and helped youth as I mentioned the wars that is happening now in the church are of like her who thinks the church is making more money and they should benefit from it. We as black ppl don't respect black leaders we love white leaders if the Comfoter was a white man ppl would respect church. We are our own enemy and this is jealousy between a black man and another black man.
Anyway you were great at that church. You and Pricilla were more famous than the church. I really miss those 2 angelic voices.
Is this mama still alive?
@@Mwakamele Yes. She is in crutches unfortunately. Son in jail......
@@mapulemokgophi9980 oooh sad.
@@Mwakamele she passed on this week
In this comments its so funny how ipcc people are so ignorant....im glad ma Emma you spoke your truth and journey.
Nna ke paletswe ke lenyalo ka baka la go gana go tsena IPCC. I didnt understand this church till today i will never ever understand it. I always tell the truth cause that set me free and indeed it set me free from all the troubles of this world and bondage of marriage. Since that time the man in question married two wives after the relationship with me .Thank God for the spirit of discernment that revealed to me that IPCC is not the way to go one day i visited the church with my friend,they called us 'bakudi' meaning patients and send us out for a while. By then i am 100% healthy but i am being called a patient. I don't regret having separated with that men. I filly understand what Mme Emma is talking about. Thanks mama for having seen the light of Jesus and having accepted Him as your Lord and personal Saviour. I wish many could see that. Amen
We bless God for the spirit of discernment that kept you away from the cult. Amen ❤
The saddest part lies within the comment section. People are so focused on trying to validate that IPHC is a true church. Wake up people! Just because they mention the name of Jesus Christ does not mean anything! It is about who they say Jesus Christ is. They don’t preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ that He is our savior and only savior but they make it like the church leader is. Wake up guys! These are the last days, repent! And start believing in the true Jesus Christ
Mme Emma God is great.
Thank you so much for this testimony may it continue to set free many and many of our brothers and sisters in Jesus name and we get motivated to press on on our salvation in the midst of our challenges🙌🙌🙌🙌
After listening to her, I don't blame, she went through alot, I am the member, and I won't stop being one, And whatever she's saying, it doesn't mean that Moemedi He was running a cult church, this church is formed by God's instruction but what happened to her was too much, I love you Mme Emma, and I will respect you, Mudzimu a ise phanḓa na u vha tonda
This is a lesson to everyone. If you feel your current church is bad. Leave it. Emma should have left the church in peace. God is the judge.
If a church does not preach Christ but man, it's a cult!
@@tebogomohlapamaswe39 that's all
IPC is a cult. All the members know this fact but they live in denial
@@staffordchanda6136 well, that's your opinion and you are right..
But the church raised me, and IPHC it's not a cult but it is a traditional church (AFRICAN) church, that praise God African way, and that's a fact...
Mme Emma am glad you were the chosen one to experience this and you were bold enough to come out by God's grace. God uses people thank you for your testimony.
As I was a child ya Moruti there since 1987 make no mistake the church is disciplined and moral as well. The teaching were good to a certain level and Yes ever since I grow up in IPC we never never ever bring our OWN bibles, I was perplexed as an adult when visiting other churches that I couldn't open a bible scriptures that was not taught in IPC (then) and I used to wonder why.
On top of that the church IPC had all the money but never in my time supported in terms of disadvantage of its own members kids - Scholarships, Uniforms, The Needy but Moemedi drives a Roy Rolls and had 2 wives and big houses and wear expensive king clothing.
We IDOLIZE Moemedi, The Comforter funny enough just thinking How/what was he comforting?
God in heaven is a jealous God and can't be compared as He is omnipresent!
IPC church building are Hugely expensive YET their Own people Suffer and they can hardly feed themselves.
We never wear jewelry and we were neat which morally we grow up as responsible Adults some of us and we thankful for that but the gospel of Jesus Christ was not the fundamental.
Somehow Ntate Modise lost it hence the church at its current state is dysfunctional and separated and the current leadership is separated into 3 churches-Wow
Obviously it's because of MONEY AND GREED church money doesn't belong to Modise family BUT All the IPHC members.
IPHC Members need to WAKE UP, The Comforter Modise is NOT GOD and The Members must learn to PRAY on their Own, Roman 12v2
Better now to accept Jesus Christ!
CULT TIME IS OVER NOW IS JESUS 4 LIFE
Sadly Tb Joshua and Joel Osteen and almost all televangelists are the same way,but I’m glad God used the enemies agents to turn her heart to Christ🙏🏿
I am listening and this is an eye opening. I always had problem every time people have to God of someone, even in these churches using water
Mama Mkhwanazi nami ngacishe ngayi joina leya church because of wena nomama Priscilla ngomculo wenu kodwa nje kwaba khona into eyangikhuzayo. Mkhulu uJehova 🙏🙏🙏
Wow nice
Glory to Jesus my God.. You are worthy to be praised 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤❤❤
Emma💞💓
u must be sick you
Stop critising mmaMkhonazi, she is jst sharing what she saw, if you still a member of Ipc pray that God reveals to you the truth, if mrsMokhonazi is deceiving people Jehovah will deal with her, 🙏🙏🙏God knows the truth and he reveals to those whom He wishes to reveal to.may the will of God be done be healed mmaMkhonazi
Amen
To listen to the secrets of some churches is good but when it comes to our churches we will insult and start to be negative to others.
They shal know the truth,and the truth shal set them free"thus says the lord.christiang let us go back to GOD's wil like never before for HE is surely coming and very soon!!! I think ausi otlamehile ho consult MOYA OHALALELANG nakong ya hona joale qha.christians word wide let's pray 4 chief justies mogoeng mogoeng.lets pray to GOD to protect him and his family at this hard time in the whole entire world.AMEN.🙏🤞👋
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For God to touch a person of such high status, it will touch others.
Amen
True
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I wish my grandmother was still alive heee,I remember the stories she used to tell us about this church and the other one.Nna I've never taken these churches serious.
I want to make a plea to u. Leave my dear church alone. who told Mme Emma to leave my church??? I deeply and dearly loved my church with all my soul. ka mmele, pelo le moya. ur Emma is talking nonsense ka okereke Ntate Modise.
I agree with you nna kere all this churches aai .
Ur grandmother was a witch she failed to witch Bana Ntate ( IPHC Kingdom Of God) that is y she told u things that she tried to do to bana Ntate nd she couldn't succeed, so kkkkkkk she reverted those evil doing to The Spiritual leader Of IPHC. Koko wa hao ne ele Moloi a fofa fofa le di chomie tsa hae mashigo ba batla ho berekisa bana Ba Moemedi ba pallwa.
Cynthia u should love GOD with body,ur heart and your soul not ur church.my church or should i say my family church is Dutch bt i dnt love it,u can say whateva u like abt it n even my pastor.i defend our father GOD,the Son JESUS and the wholly spirit.
Absolutely noone is perfect in this world. Only God is perfect. But judgement is coming soon, you can argue with someone about their belief but at the end of the day God will remain as God.
Beautiful testimony, glory to the Lord. There are many spirits in the world, test every spirit if they are of God.
Salvation is not only for BAZALWANE!!!!
Amen
Amen
Amen!!
The Lord God Almighty our Father protect and bless you Mme Emma in Jesus Christ mighty name Amen. The Lord is with you fully. I love the fact that you are only telling the truth and your testimony is your victory over all those who speak against you. The more they talk they expose their nature. I respect that you are full of love for all people. Jesus Christ is Lord. Supremacy belongs to Him. I love you Mme. Let us pray for Africa and Churches within it.
Ke rata gore in these last days the Lord is exposing all things that are not His. The Truth is moving on and up.
Jesus Christ is our father , the very Christ you worship he is the foundation of IPHC, Mme Emma is not exposing anything except deceiving bana ba Modimo..
@@collenlegodi2239 no sir The true Christ is not your foundation. I was a member of your church and grew up in it. So I have authority when I speak this and Mme Emma has spoken the absolute truth. Kindly open your bible and dare to invite the Holy Spirit who does not dwell in one man as you all believe but on all who believe in Christ Jesus. No man can ever be God. Christ is coming back. Are you ready for Him.
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IPCC (Emma & Priscilla)make me fall in love with this church bcz of their music but thanks God bcz I didn't became a member.may their soul rest in peace 🙏
I still love their music even today💚🥰Love you Mme Emma Mkhwanazi even now👏 you're soul continue to rest with eternal Peace
2021 is the year of God's will..... let him fix his creation by his left hands ,we shall see clearly whose who
Mama i once had a dream yamuemendi guri udlala kabathu iam scared truely running away from jesus the lord you bless us 🤲🤝🙏🙏🙏
I was a member of the church. I left the church long before mme leaves. Gona le tuku e e tshweu, she did not talk about it but I will leave it there. She is talking about her journey and stop being against her because she is telling the truth...
I am happy for you that you left the devil's Kingdom of IPC
bolelang hle re tsebe cos I was almost close to joining it.
She did mention the white doek that they wear underneath the ones we see,,,, there is another segment of this interview...
I could not understand this church from the onset..This is the devil's kingdom..
To God be the glory because of her testimony & I hope the Spirit of God will penerate their soul to accept Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I thought moemedi was Jesus until someone explained to me they mean the church founder, I was devastated.
That's what I thought. Till I read the Bible.
I knew a long time ago that this was a cult
Leboha mohau wa Modimo ngwaneso
@@staffordchanda6136do you remember that song "Mehleng ya bofelo" 😮
@@Lola3853-m3s. Yes. What did it mean?
mme EMMA HAS FOUND JESUS THANK U LORD SHES BORN AGAIN IPHC MUST REPENT
Its a pity because I became a staunch fan of IPCC music in 1991 when I was only 7 years, most of hym songs I know, I learnt them through listening to IPCC, and Mme Emma was the best leader according to me, I remember at some point I tried to convince Mom to take me there just to visit. She said "No, I don't worship an idol". I was heart broken but it all makes sense now. I thank God for saving your life Mme Emma, I pray that he elevates you, and promote your talent so that you reach a lot of lost souls through your music.
She left our church for her reasons almost 12 years ago. I want to make a plea to her to stop talking nonsense about my dear church.❤❤💋😀 how kanjalo nje.
After listening to this interview, it is hard for me to believe what you just said Cynthia,,,, I am sorry if I sound biased but this interview reveals a lot
she should stop going over the radio and talk nonsenses about Ntate. we already forgot her long time ago from day one 12 years ago
@@franklynmgutshini9272 she must speaks of her current church and leave us in peace.
@@cynthiamalatjie6473 This is a woman that is simply taking people through her journey, considering the fact she was a well known person through music, so probably this was a way to inspire more people out there to accept Jesus as their savior. I can understand where you come from about her revealing your church' secrets, but your church was part of her journey for over 30 years too🤔🤔🤔🤔
I praise God for her life and testimony and I really believe that she is healed in Jesus name. Our God is faithful, he is our Lord and Savior, many people will be save with this testimony God bless you mama
This is the truth
As you mentioned the name Ema, I already knew who is she and that church
All in all I thanks God through those not afraid to uplift His name amongst the world.
I will lift his name High
MamEmmah ngicela ungathuswa ngusathane umama wami wangena kulenkozo 30yrs ago but ngihla ngitjela ukuthi lenkozo yakhe kayibizi uJESU Kodwa kuzwisisi ngoba kafundanga noma seba chentja ukucula ngoJesu sebathi Moemedi / Meli yena akezwa ngoba nesisuthu akasizwa . ..ngicela umthandazo ungamkhikhipha kulento asizakale before andlula emhlabeni.
May the Lord deliver her in the name of Jesus
Babusisiwe abafela enkosini, ngoba bazobona umbuso weZulu, now you are resting in the hands of your creator not some people who played God. Rest mama and big ups to you for exposing the dark forces that are hiding behind Gods name.
Hi my name is Keabetswe, ngwana wa Sherriff i believe mme Emma knows who ny father was, i made my mum listen to this clip cause i know how much my parents were dedicated to this church. It really touched my mum how mme Emma has been through this journey and how the sickness has attacked her, we would like to let her know that we are praying for her❤️🙏
Brave mom
You only leave that place by grace! You see nothing and no one. You hear and listen to no one else. Ke ka mohau wa Jesu fela.
Truth
You are a blessing mom Emma.. No weapon is formed against you shall be able to prosper.... The boldness in is sign that you are led by the Holy Spirit... Glory Jesus... Fire, 🔥 in Jesu s you are protected... I have learnt a lot from today...
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Truly speaking this lady she can say anything about this church .I love this church with all my heart am what I am today because of this church. Nothing that people can say can separate me from moemedi
Absolutley, that is what I told them le nna. I have made a plea to them to not speak of my dear church in publicly with their so called Emma Mkhwanazi. She speaks nonsenses about Ntate. IPHC ke thaba ya Ntate ya letlapa, no one will ever break it. I really don't what got Emma to go over the radios and talk nonsenses about my church & Ntate.
Absolutely, nothing will separate me from MOEMEDI ❤💋❤😀😅❤ Ntate ke tshitabaloi, o re fodisitse malwetsi a thata. a paletseng dingaka le baporofeta. I went to University because of Ntate bursaries. pansie ka Ntate pansie. tshitabaloi.
Freedom of speech. She is free to say whatever she want to say, it is her constitutional right as much as u are free to say whatever.
@@deesoc3371 but u must tell ur so called Emma Mkhwanazi to be vigilant & careful. she must speak about her church not my church. she is no longer a member of IPHC, so she should focus on her current church. nna I don't entertain her. Perhaps she is jealous. 😀😅😅😀 she should have freedom to speak about her current church not my church.
@@deesoc3371 Hahaha Emma 😅😅😅
Really Jesus is love.Our God is God of mercy.His thought is not ours and His ways are not ours.
I'm sure the church made millions from the music, in as much as the singers were serving it's sad they didn't get paid much worse the church doesn't help the needy.
I love our radio Kgochaletseneng, we love you mme Emma.
Amen👏
@@emmahmkwanazi1192 33 o dumela vs 11 osadumeli
This Woman is a bulldozer 😭🔥. She had an incounter with Jesus and she's enjoying heaven 🙌
Wa fya ko a leng
Satane o mmerekitse hore a kgone go tsietsa Bana ba Modimo ha fetsa a mo latlhela di helleng
@@deceiveattacker8733Modise ke Ene a Chang diheleng coz o tsieditse sechaba SA MODIMO...jerrr man.
@@deceiveattacker8733Ga Se Wena otlo Kena diheleng
Glory to Jesus God bless you Mama
Howena mme motswadi atsileng kerekeng yalefifi,keaholebohela and MODIMOawosireletse.rentse relebohela sebete sahao ."MODIMO ore yanhlabelang dihlong pela batho,lenna ketlamohlabela dihlong pela ntate.Mamkhwananzi keep up horapella basetseng balukuluhe.AMEN.
Lsa
She was sick indeed when she left the church it started when she was at the hospital
You lie anker
Jesu Christe wa Nazareth ke Morena wa Marena ❤❤🎉🙌 May your soul continue to rest eternally in peace mme Emma.
It was never the same after she left the church that was when I left the church too
Hape la mu protector die maan jouh.....bt whteva u can say or u bliv hel never b GOD.....Des only one living GOD
Not die Maan 😂😂 you're right though
Please listen to Jackie Hill Perry to get to know more about God and the Bible.
This is heartbreaking, disheartening.
Amen MMe Emma le ga o tsamaya otlo ya ko jeso mmusong wa legodimo blessed 🙏
Church leaders rutang phuthego nnete ya Jehovah and his only beloved son Jesus Christ, encourage them to read their bible not Sundays only but even at their homes.
Funny how the modise followers claim that he is a God(Moemedi)
God yesterday God today God tomorrow God forever🙏
@@reeharvey3902 Got yesterday?
@@zukilanga5694 God of course ❤❤
Do we claim Jesus is God? We don't claim we know he is God. His actions showed us.
@@thapeloirvinselete1207 I notice you have a pantagram on your profile picture which is associated with Satanism, darkness and the the occult. You are a church of Satan hiding under a fake god the goat god.
Our eyes of understanding has been opened
Lmfao
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I love Julia so much. Yho Emma Julia ogo thushitse
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Amen i love her tooo
Jesus is Lord!
Every church has its own flaws. No perfect church exists.
Perfect Church exist and it is the Church of Jesus Christ and members of this Church are disciples of Jesus Christ not of men
It's actually not important to keep on defending the churches we're attending. The main reason for the church to be in existence,is for it to represent Jesus Christ. It's not going to help us at all to have the saying " there's no perfect church". Every church must strive for PERFECTION. Being like Christ is what the church has to be PERIOD!
I know its years later but I've just started investing my attention on this story. Reading the comments, I've realized the church considers the 3rd member of the Holy Trinity to be the bishop instead of the Holy spirit and with that alone, theres a lot you'd question
The part about the Bible makes sense. Bible and churt go hand in hand. But the other things... Ai.. Jesus is lord. But you cannot separate TB Joshua le Modise ba swana Mann.. TB Joshua le yena re di kwele tsa gagwe.. I would rather pray in my house.
Knowledge comes bit by bit we thank God that she has seen light about one. God will show her more about the rest. Let's pray for God's intervention in her entire life.
Love you so much 💞 RIP the real mbokoto nge mpela.
TB Joshua has been exposed as a witch as well bagaetsho. Be careful Mam Emma.
It doesn't matter but Joshua managed to alert Emma about the bible and all verses.
We learn to differ. So julia was watching the TV show as Joshua was reading out scriptures and she was alert of what she never knew of. In her former church they never read out scriptures nor carry bibles to their church.
Yho!
Tb joshua is not a false prophet my dear, that is darkness in action, you wl know the truth one day
@@catherinekate4881 you just love your witches, I can’t help you!
@@sunshineyears ohh really
@@catherinekate4881 it’s okay. Not everyone has a spirit of discernment. SAns died at his fong kong church building. Imagine flying all the way to die in his church so called. You never learn.
Can the interviewer put English subtitles please. We want to hear facts by ourselves. We've been following iphc music for a long time.
@@Schoolchoirs can't understand the language pliz if can interpret in English
Ijooo Mme Emma I dont know what to say may her soul rest in peace
Seriously english vision please
Aus Emma, praise God you have repented, but you are still lost, TBJoshua is a cultist also, read the bible and pray and forget about prophets
Jump out of frying pan, she jumped on the fire.The TB Joshuas’ water is also kganyapas water. Mme must just leave tangible things such as oils, cloths etc, used in the so called churches because God is not in them.
JESUS CHRIST IS LORD
LETS PRAISE HIM
NOT THE PROFETS
Amen bhuti are lebogeng pholoso
I loved Mme Emma with all my heart and I still love her even today (Rest her Soul). However there are some discrepancies in her story. According to my understanding everything that is done in this church, is done biblically. Coming to issue of not mentioning the name of Christ in the church, that is not true. "Re leboga Modimo ka Jesu, Jesu remo Leboga ka Moemedi" Father, Son And the Holly Spirit.
ACCORDING TO THE BOOK OF MARK 7:33-36 (Sephiri le Dipaki):
"33So Jesus took him aside privately, away from the crowd, and put His fingers into the man’s ears. Then He spit and touched the man’s tongue. 34And looking up to heaven, He sighed deeply and said to him, “Ephphatha!” (which means, “Be opened!”). 35Immediately the man’s ears were opened and his tongue was released, and he began to speak plainly. 36Jesus ordered them not to tell anyone. But the more He ordered them, the more widely they proclaimed it.…
Mark says the man was deaf and dumb, Jesus took him aside privately, away from the crown, he uttered a secret word "Ephphatha" in his ear (Dipaki - Key) and the man's ears were immediately opened and his tongue was released. after that, Christ himself, told those who were around him at that time, who heard him uttering the secret word, he says do not tell anyone about this, keep it a secret (Sephiri)
SNAKE ISSUE
NUMBERS 21: 8-9
8Then the LORD said to Moses, “Make a fiery serpent and mount it on a pole. When anyone who is bitten looks at it, he will live.” 9So Moses made a bronze snake and mounted it on a pole. If anyone who was bitten looked at the bronze snake, he would live.
JOHN 3: 14-15
14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.”
MOLLO ISSUE (Reason why word fire/Mollo is not called out without reason)
DEUTERONOMY 4:24
24 For the Lord your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.
EXODUS 20:7
7 “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.
EXODUS 3:14
14God said to Moses, “I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I am has sent me to you.’”
REASON WHY YOU CANT LEAVE THE CHURCH
MATTHEW 12: 43-45
43 “When the unclean spirit has gone out of a person, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, but finds none. 44 Then it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when it comes, it finds the house empty, swept, and put in order. 45 Then it goes and brings with it seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they enter and dwell there, and the last state of that person is worse than the first. So also will it be with this evil generation.”
DOES THIS MEAN THE BIBLE IS EVIL?
Firstly do you know the Holy Spirit? Eo eleng Moemedi eseng Motho.
What about that song Of you le rapela Motho
infact there is a scriputure where CHRIST makes it clear that we should not use the NAME OF GOD IN vain because HE IS A CONSUMING FIRE.
they don't know that moses was the pentecost himself pillar
Jesus Never did thungs in secret You are a liar if i was secret we would know by now and secondly You saying He whispered dipaki what is that have you read the bible where its said dipaki which is witnesses. Please dont deceive and change the Word of God This is why you people are under another mans spell
This church will continue to separate people from God.
Is so sad how people can pray a person and call him god, Matthew 23.8 but you are not to be called Rabbi for you have one Teacher and you are all brothers.9and do not call anyone on earth father for you have one Father and he is in heaven.10 nor are you to be called instructors for you have one Instructor the Messiah
That's what the Bible says. But what can we do if our churches change it to suit their teachings?
Read your Bible know the truth,and the sprit of God guide us in situation as such,as He say He will never leave or forsake us,He will always give a lead and show you what to do or where to go
But I think Jesus was a Human being as well why praise him?
Until the Most High shall visit the earth, coming Himself as man, with men eating and drinking, and breaking the head of the dragon in the water. WE NEED TO READ MORE
The is no Kingdom that can stand against it's self, if a kingdom stands against it self , it will not progress, So if moemedi worships Satan according to the world , Then why Baloi ba motshaba(why are witches afraid of Him, How is it his children witches can not bewitch us, as Emma stated??
Ke moloi o mo kgolo. Bayotsana tsa tshaba boss ya bona. Read relevations and repent.
@@nthabisengpatriciamaleka7623 or Maybe ke modimo, Please provide the chapter and verse
@@nthabisengpatriciamaleka7623 Baloi gets back re bona back a thothomela le bona ba a tseba. Le wena if o Moloi o tla itsatsarela bohloko.
@@nthabisengpatriciamaleka7623 o moloi le wena 😅😅😀💋❤wow.
@@cynthiamalatjie6473 one of the commandments e re," Le seke la etirela medimo gobane ke nna Jehovah Modimo wa lena". I'm not going to argue with you my dear. Go read your bible and let the Holy Ghost open your eyes. The bible says my people perish because of lack of knowledge.
So ba rapela motho, moemedi the comforter, we know the only comforter as the holy spirit
Even Jesus Christ is The Spirit because He is still alive today and was once a man,Who said The Holy Spirit can't be Man too?which scripture?
@@lauryl1170 hahaha bona comforter ca never be a man!
@@lauryl1170 Spirit is not man. Was Molise omnipresent? Was he omniscient? Was he omnipotent? Jesus went to heaven and so that He can be all that. If Molise was Spirit then why is he dead? Then his son is the one that took over the family business. Bathong le loilwe ke mang?
Spot on 👏
Amen
Power is such a dangerous drug. The founder of this church started off as a member of the ZCC. He had a fall out with lekganyane and decided to start his own thing. It’s sad to see that he was so power hungry that he even wanted to surpass God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
I’m a non believer and I think, pastors also know religion is a gimmick. If they knew that there was a god they wouldn’t be playing with people like this.
@@koketsokaym234 why did he leave the ZCC? he himself was power hungry.
@@koketsokaym234 his calling was so strong that he thought he was more powerful than the holy trinity?
Mam he started a cult and like all other Cult leaders, he was power hungry. This is why hierarchy is everything I’m this church. Nothing about this church is godly
Leave ZCC alone please. We're a serious faith institution.
He had a fallout with Lekganyane?? Aowa wena, who's your Source?
@@kabelomokone3885 you are in a cult!
Well Mme Emma as a South African has a right to ventilate or air her own views. It however appears that she was not listening or asking questions where she did not understand from ordinary members of the church or even Reverends. God, Jesus and Moemedi (holy spirit) is the holy trinity. God sent Jesus, and after 3 and half yrs Jesus indicated that he will send Moemedi (Holy spirit) see (John 13:20, John 14:16, John 15:26, 16:5-15). IPHC is one of the cleanest church to date (Mmuso wa Modimo) we do not use anything to enhance us like water and holy oils, we are taught to trust solely in God, but we also taught that to respect fellow human beings as they are made in the image of God. In IPHC we know that a human being is God (because of that image). If her intention is to bad name the church on the contrary, she is not doing a disservice to the church she is simply promoting this Kingdom of God (IPHC) so that those in the dark will know about this church.
Amen 🙏🏾
IPC is a cult. Emma made a great decision to leave
@@staffordchanda6136 Cult? Actually, it is the other way round, all churches that call themselves Christians today worship Satan unaware. Prior to Christianity the Romans, Greeks, and other Caucasians worshiped the Sun (hence Sunday). Jesus was a Jew (in fact a Judean by birth), and he either spoke Hebrew or Aramaic at that time as a home language, but then Greek was a spoken language just as English today. Easter as well has nothing to do with Judeism or True Christianity, in the German language, it is referred to as Oester (something that has to do with the Sun shining), hence east (meaning where the sun comes from). Oester or Ishtar in the Assyrian language is the fidelity Goddess. Constantine the Roman emperor and the council of Nicea after adopting Christianity as their religion corrupted it and mixed it with their old Roman religious practices, and there Sunday emerged as the worship day. Why would Christianity in its corrupt form be imposed on other nations, now as recently just prior to 1994 in South Africa, and it was imposed by force, particularly on the Africans. However that has been the practice all over the world where Europeans conquered, and they did not succeed that much in the east as in the west and center (Africa). Paul and Peter preached true Christianity and there were some churches in the middle east that followed that true doctrine but were suppressed as the Romans were wielding the axe, perhaps that is why secret churches emerged at that time until today. The true doctrine of Jesus as was taught by Paulus, Peter, and other disciples of Christ is dead, and there is only one place to get it which is IPHC, because it is being taught by the Comforter himself because Jesus was also a comforter and God at the same time, even an ordinary human being is a God because he or she is created in the image of God. (see John 10:34).
GOD is not an image, GOD IS GOD, HOLY SPIRIT cannot be a person, it is a spirit, still can't say moemodi wa hao ke HOLY SPIRIT, And not need to convince anybody about your believe, be at peace bcuz is what you believe in
@@dikeledisekhabisa3848 Jesus was also Moemedi/Comforter (Paraclete from Greek) Paragalitha in Hebrew ( Hebrew is a Bantu language) or in Setswana leparaga or simply put an intermediate between Heaven and Earth or God and Humans. See John 14:16 and 1 John 2:1. A human being (Motho) is invincible to the eye, and motho is the image of God.
She didn't even own a car.. I wonder what was happening with royalties Bcz their music was not only bought by the church members.. Really this is surprising.. And the owner of that church owns the most expensive cars
Perhaps you should ask her whether she owns some cars?? Wena how do u know gore Ntate he is owning most expensive cars because you are not a member???
They are fighting over them and should become god now that god number 2 died.. They are killing each other in the place called church
u didn't answered my question. How do u know Ntate is owning expensive cars while u never once come to our church. Do u know SILO headquarters???
Gabotse loan bathos ba lefase, le batlaeng no kerekeng ya geso???
That family is so obsessed with money, everything is all about money there. Look at the triple faction that is currently taking place there, 3 of them need that power because they know it comes with a lot of money
We like her music nd I'm concerned whn they quit churches nd they exposed them .is not right at all
I remember the last Time Ntate Modise explained in the church about a dream of a big tree shaken by a Strong wind doves fell off and eaten by pig's symbolize weak Church member's are going to be betrayed by Church leaders and authorities she is one of those dove's fallen after his passing(Ntate)
@@suzanphala3653 110%
The woman is simply giving her testimony, taking us through her journey, unfortunately along the way she was bound to expose some things that some of these staunch followers of the church would not be happy about.
@@franklynmgutshini9272 and to inform those who are still in the dark
Is one of two with God; he protects or punish. This was a biggest mistake. IPHC gates are open to everyone to visit and nobody has ever been forced to join or remain in. But publicising false opinions might mean self distruction. Amen.
You need to read the bible and accept Jesus as your lord and saviour
She went from 1 scam to another 💔😭 she should've just stayed in the churches she mentioned clearly she had a calling ya postola but we Africans do not want to accept ourselves.
It's always that case.
7 ngwana ngenilengenile🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 🐐
O bua nnete.
Born again Christian church is creepy and vicious. If you don't believe, scrutinize Major one, Odeyepo, Lesego Daniel, TB Joshua etc list is long
@koketsokaym234 is very true people don't want to accept their calling
The whole things is just a cult.
Ekwa the presenter o reng🤣 ... o re wat if bana ba sesi Ema a nang le bona, e be e le nako gore a ba fonane, ga se modimo wa kreke yela a ba fileng yena, mara wa lebala gore ba Israel e be e le nako gore batšwe egepita mara gobe go nyakega Moshe gore baka leo le phethege. Jwale le yena gore a fomane bana, e be e le nako mara go be go nyakega the Comforter gore baka leo le phethege
Le yena she will soon be exposed. with ur so called Emma Mkhwanazi.
Gabotse Emma o nyakang no kerekeng ya rona???? she will soon be exposed le yena segafi seo sa lena Emma mkhwanazi. Emma ga re mo kolote selo mo kerekeng ya rena.
Wena Emma Mkhwanazi ga o di gadikele go di phura.
This radio station must fall!
The presenter is against the church and is channelling Emma to say all these negative stuff 👎🏾
@@lesibalesleymasenya6466 absolutely, this is kind of true. This radio station must fall. Emma once to Ntate ko Silo to ask for forgiveness. Ntate asked her to first go to the media to unsay all the things that she was saying over the radio. But Emma didn't go to the media to unsay all of her negative things.
A friend of mine once told me that everytime at her house there's a new born baby a snake would be seen in the yard...I knew right there that something is off in that church clearly her father has made sacrifices with the church and the family doesn't even know they are all just blindly following him and he's following the church I think the father knows very well what covenant he signed at church...
Ntate Modise left the ZCC church to start his own church. Until He reached his untimely death, he never criticized ZCC. Mme Emma leaves IPCC why must a nyefole jwale. She must just enjoy her newly found faith and keep quite. Wa fafathla nje. She appears bitter if anything. She must leave IPCC with peace. No need to stoop that low.
@Ellen Mme Emma is NOT Stooping low like the bible says Whatever happens in the dark it will come to light. The time is now. I am happy Mme Emma accepted the Jesus Christ as the Lord and saviour and LEFT IDOLATRY.
Amen oh Lord, Your timing is PERFECT!
Ellen ngwaneso he left the dark and open another darkness church to fill the blind
Its true
She must talk and help others like you. modise went back to ZCC WHEN he was on his death bed
@@Reginamogapi9520 Maybe she's helping you not me darling. Im not confused😱
Ngiyabonga mama ya ngbonga jesu yayayaya