Something a bit different from us, the How To thing isn't our typical but we thought we should use this opportunity to do a little extra education on something. What do you all think? Sometimes you are interested in seeing a bit more of?
Thank you for the video. Working on wrapping my first set of headers, first pipe wrapped it wrong. Watched video, found my mistake and now they look good. Excellent tutorial. THANK YOU.
Been using DEI to protect our brake lines from heat from the start there sleeves for existing lines being able to wrap with disconnecting is huge dropped our master cylinder temp 100 degrees. Solid product.
For SURE! The peel and wrap products are life savers and make a massive difference. You really never understand just how crazy hot it gets in engine bays and what a difference a thin bit of material can make. This definitely won't be the last of their product you see us using ;)
This was GREAT. I have old header wrap...long tubes on my Dodge LA 360 looks like a mummy like a horror movie...I'm definitely encouraged on using these tricks to re-wrap and give the headers a race-ready look! :) Thanks for an unexpected but very informative video!
Very welcome glad you enjoyed it, certainly a bit out of our "normal" but figured since we had such a good connection with the DEI guys use the opportunity. Mike was nice enough to say yes and give us some free labor ;) Even after having done these myself learned some very useful tricks.
Mike is awesome and did a WAY better job of it than I did on the Pontiac, though to be very honest I was also rushing because I was hard up against a time crunch. Take your time and do it RIGHT or you'll be doing it again and hating yourself.
This was a change from your normal videos. I don’t think that would be something I would have patience to do. No doubt have a professional demonstration. I think was great. Thank you for sharing!
It's most definitely time consuming, somewhere between 2 and 4 hours depending on what application is and what materials. Doing this on my ceramic coated ones was a BIG pain because the wrap kept slipping. Certainly not for everyone nor is it necessary for everyone.
Very welcome Ron glad you enjoyed it. With us heading into the oven that was the Southern US for Power Tour every little trick to keep heat out of the car helped!
Just did header wrapping for the first time. Patience! Used the steel zip ties and broke several of them cause I turned it the wrong direction. Thanks for the informative vid.
When I got my stainless shorty headers for my 327 Chevy, I thought about wrapping them, but did not, I just left the shorty headers alone. I have about 3,000 miles on the new motor now and found under hood heat off the headers in Florida summer heat is not really a big deal. I did however wrap all the pipes from the collectors all the way back to the mufflers to keep cockpit temps down so the A/C can keep up and that is a wise move as the pipes go all the way passed the B piller where the mufflers are located at. This simple straight pipe wrap was very simple to do and really keeps the heat down under the cockpit inside the car. I am old enough to know better than to have loud mufflers on a red muscle car on long trips ( friggin FlowMasters all SUCK ! ) So I researched & found & installed a pair of the most quiet, free flowing touring muffles on the market ( Bola touring) and used 2 1/4" pipes from the collectors to the mufflers and 2 inch out the back. To be honest, it's STILL to loud for my liking as in some small town USA, you do NOT want to draw any attention to an out of state plate on a RED muscle car!!!! So I am now into looking for a resonator muffler to add to the system to shut this 327 completely up.
VERY good video. I watch a lot of how to's with a first time build, and always liked the looks and anti heat benefits. I do come from a back ground of wrapping racing bicycle bars so hopefully mine turns out good. I probably wrapped 400 sets in total, so the experience will definitely help. About to wrap the long tube headers for my 1970 Torino
Yet another zip tie moment. Once you get so far, use the zip ties to hold it just in case of a hand cramping up. Job can be a pain in the butt, but done right it`s well worth the effort. Wait till the job is complete before celebrating with cold snacks. You need an extremely sharp pair of scissors for the job. Thanks for the lesson Mike. Thanks for taking us along Austin. This should definitely help with the heat. Speaking of the Pontiac, did Jim lose any weight due to the heat. You both were sweating up a storm. Stay safe guys, God Bless.
If you have hand cramping while working hard with your hands, take Magnesium Glycinate. I’m a career mechanic it did absolute wonders for me, good luck!
Magnesium is the mineral responsible for relaxing the muscle (even the heart) after hard work or extended period of times of contractions. When it’s missing your muscles will over contract
Potassium for pump (contraction) and the magnesium for the relaxation. The key three tho is Magnesium, Potassium, and Sodium. But out source most of the shelf stuff is inorganic and do nothing for the body.
Just order mine to put on my V6 header. Seems like it gets pretty hot inside the engine bay so hopefully this wrap will help reduce the internal engine bay from getting so hot all the time especially in the summer time whe the temp is over 110 degree. Every little bit of heat that I can help reduce inside the engine bay would prolong the life of all the internal gasket, plastic, and rubber from wearing out.
Excellent video, great info Austin! The DEI crew seems to really have their act together with this stuff! Put some fiberglass heat shield on the turbo in my old Dodge a handful of years back because the factory tin shield rotted away, found the leftover bit of it as I was cleaning out a shed last night (I R hoarder!) and was surprised to see it was a DEI product. (When I originally bought it , it was the only product of it's kind on the shelf so I was not paying attention to brand name) And apparently you posted this as I was digging and discovering lol. Most excellent timing sir! After watching this I think I will get some of the new stuff you were using and replace the old, and now tattered, fiberglass... and maybe enough to do the hotside pipe too.
Usually once you've done it once you hate it and never want to again. Between getting it wet getting it in place trying NOT to get splinters in your hands/arms/everywhere.. This stuff is a WAY better product
No way what's the chances I'm actually from cleves ohio where edgewater race way is located thanks for the informative video as well I'm wrapping my headers on my 94 chevy c1500 tomorrow
DEI provides them. Makes things a WHOLE lot better, especially now after seeing Mike do this the right way. Used a few too many when I did it myself :)
Can I use this wrap on a cerakote coated header for add more protection or using this over cerakote may crack the coat and damage it? I am looking to cover all the component near to my header but I do not want to damage my header or the coat, thanks
They don't need much massaging and we won't heat cycle them before that so they should still be nice and flexible still. Hopefully. I guess we'll find out soon :)
i know, wrap becomes brittle and sharp, it crumbles with lot of glass dust that irritates skin, eye, lungs, i used 1400c "titan" wrap, it had lasted for 5 years, other 600c white wrap was destroyed after 7 days of a few flooring (on rear part of exh)
Down at the bottom of the header is it okay to double wrap that part of the exhaust the Bronx real close to my starter I have problems with it overheating the starter so I'd like to know will it hurt anything to double wrap that part of the exhaust
Almost happened to me. 1954 f100 with mustang 2 front suspension. Brand new rack and pinion with loose connections at the high pressure and low pressure lines, using trans fluid instead of power steering fluid, leaked onto the header wrap and I didn’t notice. Luckily once I saw the trail of fluid in my driveway when I got home from a truck show, I put it on the lift and noticed it soaked. CLOSE CALL. Closer inspection revealed the rack and pinion high pressure and low pressure lines’ fittings did not match the racks female receptors. This is what happens when more than one person work on something. I assumed the inserted fittings by my dad were seating but had I installed them I would have noticed. The trans fluid instead of power steering fluid was from my dad who does this all the time to be cheap. I recommend not doing that. I went back to “power steering fluid”
He’s a gangster with no gloves I’ve used that wrap about 8 times different headers and I’ve had more luck wetting it or soaking before . And that shit is itchy lol. Better invest in a lint roller sounds stupid but lint roller seems to get all the fibers out . God Bless. Thanks for the tutorial.
You've had issues with the titanium wrap causing you issues? I did it barehanded as well and only had maybe 2 or 3 issues of itchy. Certainly way way WAY better than the old school fiberglass style stuff! Good tip on the lint roller, also having a pair of good sharp scissors!
@@LucoreAuto yeah it’s better than the old but it still itchy in my opinion and in Texas it’s nice Hot and humid and it’s not fun when that stuff gets all lathered up in the sweat and ends up all over you lol
There’s one thing that he either didn’t do, or just forgot to tell us.. isn’t the wrap supposed to go a certain way like something to do with the way it’s stitched together
i wrapped it and after 5 years wrap started to fall apart, and ss304 was rusted beneath wrap, wrapping is worst case, better would be to make heat shield and that would not touch header
The infamous AMC, aka Rambler dog leg ports. Headers, oh my goodness. I've owned my 76 CJ-5 well, forever. Hate hate hate Headers. Do not throw away your stock manifolds, you need to read why dog leg ports, these engines came stroked from the factory. Seriously, wonder why NASCAR hated Rambler. So much the Banned Rambler because they beat All the completion. High nickel blocks , they never wear out. Read up on your AMC see how the built stuff to last.
Everything about these engines, FLOW. If the engineers at Rambler or AMC THOUGHT headers would benefit the engine they'd would have came stock on the engine.
Honestly... this is how NOT to wrap headers. No PPE, no pre-measurement, no spray bottle, no mention of coating the headers to prevent rust due to trapped moisture, tape not running up to the plates, and double ties. You don't need double ties! Why not just use zip ties to hold it until you're happy? Also, how about a light coat of clear Exhaust paint afterwards to stop the fibre trying to kill you in 6 months when you need to work in the engine bay again?!
...umm, header warranty ? You may need to go play in a different sand box - build, drive, break, repeat - if I cant afford that mentality, then maybe I should take up cross stitch...or competitive cake decorating...but only if they give participation trophies...
I believe Mr Dillinger has a point. I wrapped one set of headers only and will never do it again . Header looked fine where it wasn't wrapped, were it was wrapped it completely pooped its pants, mild steel, looked like it had been used as deck cargo on the exxon valdez. Completely rotted out.
Something a bit different from us, the How To thing isn't our typical but we thought we should use this opportunity to do a little extra education on something. What do you all think? Sometimes you are interested in seeing a bit more of?
Thank you for the video. Working on wrapping my first set of headers, first pipe wrapped it wrong. Watched video, found my mistake and now they look good. Excellent tutorial. THANK YOU.
...awesome content ! The things most of us over look, DEI is legit - thanks for taking the time to share with us !...
Thanks Rollie glad so many people are enjoying and appreciating this video. A bit our of the "normal" for us but think it turned out pretty good.
Been using DEI to protect our brake lines from heat from the start there sleeves for existing lines being able to wrap with disconnecting is huge dropped our master cylinder temp 100 degrees. Solid product.
For SURE! The peel and wrap products are life savers and make a massive difference. You really never understand just how crazy hot it gets in engine bays and what a difference a thin bit of material can make. This definitely won't be the last of their product you see us using ;)
This was GREAT. I have old header wrap...long tubes on my Dodge LA 360 looks like a mummy like a horror movie...I'm definitely encouraged on using these tricks to re-wrap and give the headers a race-ready look! :) Thanks for an unexpected but very informative video!
Very welcome glad you enjoyed it, certainly a bit out of our "normal" but figured since we had such a good connection with the DEI guys use the opportunity. Mike was nice enough to say yes and give us some free labor ;)
Even after having done these myself learned some very useful tricks.
Mike's The Man!
Ok,I'm sold on the product just not ready for it yet, and the gentleman that did the wrap did a fantastic looking job
Mike is awesome and did a WAY better job of it than I did on the Pontiac, though to be very honest I was also rushing because I was hard up against a time crunch. Take your time and do it RIGHT or you'll be doing it again and hating yourself.
This was a change from your normal videos. I don’t think that would be something I would have patience to do. No doubt have a professional demonstration. I think was great. Thank you for sharing!
It's most definitely time consuming, somewhere between 2 and 4 hours depending on what application is and what materials. Doing this on my ceramic coated ones was a BIG pain because the wrap kept slipping. Certainly not for everyone nor is it necessary for everyone.
just bought a equal length 4-2-1 header for my brz . This video helped a lot and I will be getting titanium wrap rn 😂
Good to hear! It's definitely a good product to work with, MUCH better than the old stuff!
Awesome! always curious about the header wrap. Ty for video.
Very welcome Ron glad you enjoyed it. With us heading into the oven that was the Southern US for Power Tour every little trick to keep heat out of the car helped!
Very interesting Austin.
Glad you thought so, a bit out of the ordinary for us but figured it was something useful we could share.
Just did header wrapping for the first time. Patience! Used the steel zip ties and broke several of them cause I turned it the wrong direction. Thanks for the informative vid.
They have kits, 2 ea 2" roll x50ft, ties and tool for $162 bucks FYI.
Yessir! Good call out, we should have mentioned that!
When I got my stainless shorty headers for my 327 Chevy, I thought about wrapping them, but did not, I just left the shorty headers alone. I have about 3,000 miles on the new motor now and found under hood heat off the headers in Florida summer heat is not really a big deal. I did however wrap all the pipes from the collectors all the way back to the mufflers to keep cockpit temps down so the A/C can keep up and that is a wise move as the pipes go all the way passed the B piller where the mufflers are located at. This simple straight pipe wrap was very simple to do and really keeps the heat down under the cockpit inside the car.
I am old enough to know better than to have loud mufflers on a red muscle car on long trips ( friggin FlowMasters all SUCK ! ) So I researched & found & installed a pair of the most quiet, free flowing touring muffles on the market ( Bola touring) and used 2 1/4" pipes from the collectors to the mufflers and 2 inch out the back. To be honest, it's STILL to loud for my liking as in some small town USA, you do NOT want to draw any attention to an out of state plate on a RED muscle car!!!! So I am now into looking for a resonator muffler to add to the system to shut this 327 completely up.
14 in high flow flowmaster i k you said u didn’t like them but the high flow one is 👌🏾
Got a couple of loops in your video.
Ok good I thought it was just me 😅
Woops! Will have to rewatch it. Sorry :( We aren't trained professionals around here! lol
@@LucoreAuto ita all good, i thought someone spiked my drink 😂
VERY good video. I watch a lot of how to's with a first time build, and always liked the looks and anti heat benefits. I do come from a back ground of wrapping racing bicycle bars so hopefully mine turns out good. I probably wrapped 400 sets in total, so the experience will definitely help. About to wrap the long tube headers for my 1970 Torino
Yet another zip tie moment. Once you get so far, use the zip ties to hold it just in case of a hand cramping up. Job can be a pain in the butt, but done right it`s well worth the effort. Wait till the job is complete before celebrating with cold snacks. You need an extremely sharp pair of scissors for the job. Thanks for the lesson Mike. Thanks for taking us along Austin. This should definitely help with the heat. Speaking of the Pontiac, did Jim lose any weight due to the heat. You both were sweating up a storm. Stay safe guys, God Bless.
you only need jaggy scissors, even not too sharp(i made teeth on scissor by small cutting disc)
If you have hand cramping while working hard with your hands, take Magnesium Glycinate. I’m a career mechanic it did absolute wonders for me, good luck!
Magnesium is the mineral responsible for relaxing the muscle (even the heart) after hard work or extended period of times of contractions. When it’s missing your muscles will over contract
Potassium for pump (contraction) and the magnesium for the relaxation. The key three tho is Magnesium, Potassium, and Sodium. But out source most of the shelf stuff is inorganic and do nothing for the body.
Good stuff guys!
Thanks, glad you like it!
👍🏽🇺🇸👍🏽 he made this look way easier than it really is.. awesome job,looks amazing
Great content, great company, great products and great people.. How can you go wrong.. Thanks y'all
Just order mine to put on my V6 header. Seems like it gets pretty hot inside the engine bay so hopefully this wrap will help reduce the internal engine bay from getting so hot all the time especially in the summer time whe the temp is over 110 degree. Every little bit of heat that I can help reduce inside the engine bay would prolong the life of all the internal gasket, plastic, and rubber from wearing out.
At 28:05 you mentioned greenish titanium wrap that comes from the eastern part of the world.
What brand is that greenish wrap ?
Excellent video, great info Austin! The DEI crew seems to really have their act together with this stuff!
Put some fiberglass heat shield on the turbo in my old Dodge a handful of years back because the factory tin shield rotted away, found the leftover bit of it as I was cleaning out a shed last night (I R hoarder!) and was surprised to see it was a DEI product. (When I originally bought it , it was the only product of it's kind on the shelf so I was not paying attention to brand name) And apparently you posted this as I was digging and discovering lol. Most excellent timing sir!
After watching this I think I will get some of the new stuff you were using and replace the old, and now tattered, fiberglass... and maybe enough to do the hotside pipe too.
Yikes, i just ordered fiberglass wrap. Guess ill get this titanium stuff! Thanks
It's VERY well worth it even just for the ease of use! Yes it's a bit pricy but man is it better and kinder to work with!
I want to add high-flow cats to a mid-pipe on my C6Z, can I wrap over the SS aftermarket cats to keep the already hot tunnel cooler?
Great video. I wrapped a set of headers with the old type wrap and it was a nightmare.
Usually once you've done it once you hate it and never want to again. Between getting it wet getting it in place trying NOT to get splinters in your hands/arms/everywhere..
This stuff is a WAY better product
nightmare will be to unwrap it because wrap become fragile and it starts to prick in skin and fingers
No way what's the chances I'm actually from cleves ohio where edgewater race way is located thanks for the informative video as well I'm wrapping my headers on my 94 chevy c1500 tomorrow
Not too far down the road from us! Thanks for watching, hopefully you learned a thing or two along the way!
Where do you get stainless zip ties? I didn't know they existed.
DEI provides them. Makes things a WHOLE lot better, especially now after seeing Mike do this the right way. Used a few too many when I did it myself :)
Do you need to spray vht on stainless tubes to protect it from water soaked in by the wrap?
And how long do these wraps last?
Is it recommended to paint the headers or manifold first(not new)?
Can I use this wrap on a cerakote coated header for add more protection or using this over cerakote may crack the coat and damage it? I am looking to cover all the component near to my header but I do not want to damage my header or the coat, thanks
The only thing I'm concerned about is you mentioned massaging the headers to fit won't that tend to destroy the wrap?
They don't need much massaging and we won't heat cycle them before that so they should still be nice and flexible still. Hopefully. I guess we'll find out soon :)
i know, wrap becomes brittle and sharp, it crumbles with lot of glass dust that irritates skin, eye, lungs, i used 1400c "titan" wrap, it had lasted for 5 years, other 600c white wrap was destroyed after 7 days of a few flooring (on rear part of exh)
Down at the bottom of the header is it okay to double wrap that part of the exhaust the Bronx real close to my starter I have problems with it overheating the starter so I'd like to know will it hurt anything to double wrap that part of the exhaust
I had to overlap like a whole wrap in order to wrap this 1 section of header, jba for 15 ram 1500, will things be ok?
I watched a 67 firebird burn up from a Trans leak soaked the header wrap and caught 🔥
Almost happened to me. 1954 f100 with mustang 2 front suspension. Brand new rack and pinion with loose connections at the high pressure and low pressure lines, using trans fluid instead of power steering fluid, leaked onto the header wrap and I didn’t notice. Luckily once I saw the trail of fluid in my driveway when I got home from a truck show, I put it on the lift and noticed it soaked. CLOSE CALL. Closer inspection revealed the rack and pinion high pressure and low pressure lines’ fittings did not match the racks female receptors. This is what happens when more than one person work on something. I assumed the inserted fittings by my dad were seating but had I installed them I would have noticed. The trans fluid instead of power steering fluid was from my dad who does this all the time to be cheap. I recommend not doing that. I went back to “power steering fluid”
How much wrap did you use
How about making a short video about the difference with what you did Austin compared to Mike from DEI? It would be an interesting comparison I think.
HOWdy LUCORE,
MotorCycle PIPES are much - Much - MUCH Easier to WRAP 🙂
COOP
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Oh for sure! Start to finish a couple minutes versus wrapping cloth around spaghetti!
Try doing this with the headers on the car!
Are those headers cerakoted?
How many rolls did u end up using and we’re they 100’ or 50’ rolls???
Nm lol should have watched till the end great video thanks
He’s a gangster with no gloves I’ve used that wrap about 8 times different headers and I’ve had more luck wetting it or soaking before . And that shit is itchy lol. Better invest in a lint roller sounds stupid but lint roller seems to get all the fibers out . God Bless. Thanks for the tutorial.
You've had issues with the titanium wrap causing you issues? I did it barehanded as well and only had maybe 2 or 3 issues of itchy. Certainly way way WAY better than the old school fiberglass style stuff!
Good tip on the lint roller, also having a pair of good sharp scissors!
@@LucoreAuto yeah it’s better than the old but it still itchy in my opinion and in Texas it’s nice Hot and humid and it’s not fun when that stuff gets all lathered up in the sweat and ends up all over you lol
Purpose of wraping it ??
There’s one thing that he either didn’t do, or just forgot to tell us.. isn’t the wrap supposed to go a certain way like something to do with the way it’s stitched together
i wrapped it and after 5 years wrap started to fall apart, and ss304 was rusted beneath wrap, wrapping is worst case, better would be to make heat shield and that would not touch header
Camera man???
Let the guy talk / demonstrate 😐
I found Header wrap will cause Cracks after a while
DEI ... what a regrettable acronym! 🤭😆🤣
The infamous AMC, aka Rambler dog leg ports. Headers, oh my goodness. I've owned my 76 CJ-5 well, forever. Hate hate hate Headers. Do not throw away your stock manifolds, you need to read why dog leg ports, these engines came stroked from the factory. Seriously, wonder why NASCAR hated Rambler. So much the Banned Rambler because they beat All the completion. High nickel blocks , they never wear out. Read up on your AMC see how the built stuff to last.
Everything about these engines, FLOW. If the engineers at Rambler or AMC THOUGHT headers would benefit the engine they'd would have came stock on the engine.
Honestly... this is how NOT to wrap headers. No PPE, no pre-measurement, no spray bottle, no mention of coating the headers to prevent rust due to trapped moisture, tape not running up to the plates, and double ties. You don't need double ties! Why not just use zip ties to hold it until you're happy? Also, how about a light coat of clear Exhaust paint afterwards to stop the fibre trying to kill you in 6 months when you need to work in the engine bay again?!
It’s titanium smart one not fiberglass
I think its both@@royfernandez3219
@@royfernandez3219that is what I call an ironic burn!
Ok Pete, you now owe a tutorial video to every person who has watched this video.
better check your header's warranty before doing this.
...umm, header warranty ? You may need to go play in a different sand box - build, drive, break, repeat - if I cant afford that mentality, then maybe I should take up cross stitch...or competitive cake decorating...but only if they give participation trophies...
I believe Mr Dillinger has a point. I wrapped one set of headers only and will never do it again . Header looked fine where it wasn't wrapped, were it was wrapped it completely pooped its pants, mild steel, looked like it had been used as deck cargo on the exxon valdez. Completely rotted out.
@@rolliefoster2837 if you repeat doing stupid shit,that's exactly what will happen.
@@watsisbuttndo829 *Mild Steel... Cheers!*
At 28:05 you mentioned greenish titanium wrap that comes from the eastern part of the world.
What brand is that greenish wrap ?
At 28:05 you mentioned greenish titanium wrap that comes from the eastern part of the world.
What brand is that greenish wrap ?