Not necessarily. I work at an indoor team sport, and every single one of the fastest drivers, on the slower hairpins, where you have to break, slams the break and puts the kart into a spin, power-sliding out of the corner. It picks up seconds to the other drivers
@@BolivGaming yeah exactly, get the back end to do some extra rotating so you can take more speed into the corner. then its just all about making sure you minimise speed scrubbing
-I've never driven a car -I play lots of racing games -I have pedals and wheels I go to track. I don't drive kart like car. I know not how to drive car. I do good.
surprisingly, it was the same for me. I learned driving on Gran Turismo 5 and a TM Ferrari Challenge wheel. I went to outside karting track near home, I drove kart the kart, and it feel like in GT 5 but without the ribs hurting. I did 40mins on my first day. It was a very fun day, made me appreciate the racing/sim games more. I am glad to read someone else feel similarly.
@@tanay6003agree, he's on the racing line, and he's fast ENOUGH, so yeah absolutely it's the job of the person behind to not be hitting them multiple times... but if they're taking crazy lines and cutting back onto the racing line randomly, then that could be called intentional blocking.... in this video, I think he's completely entitled to the line that he's taking, and a slight bit more space in the rear... although this is karting, so little taps are way more.. allowed. Cameron is just being aggressive because he's faster.. there are many times where the person in P1 is slower, but if they just take the perfect line and keep their speed, then P2 has no chance to overtake
@@tanay6003 In Nascar they use the technique of bumpdrafting, the driver behind receives a slipstream and in return you give the driver ahead a push. They use it to catch up to the leaders or drive away from the pack, that only works when the drivers have the same speed. You can use that same technique in outdoor karting with long straights too. But talking about indoor, as you saw in this video this has no effect on the driver in front he actually gains very little with it. And when your a little faster on a tight indoor track it can be very hard to find a way past, especially when you cannot really outbrake him. An example for myself at my local karting track there is an S turn wich is pretty much full throttle for me but not for most other people, and after that comes a straight with a tight hairpin so when I came out of the S turn I had much better momentum then the driver ahead so I don't wanna ruin my own momentum by going off the throttle. So what you do is just give them a little tap at the back, (also works very handy with unexperienced drivers who don't watch to see if there is anyone behind) to let them know I'm there and then I could safely go for the move into the hairpin without problems. But if you really bump hard into people on purpose then yeah you are just an asshole haha. I also had this once into that same hairpin a person didn't expect me we had a little touch I went past and the first hard braking zone he just went full throttle into the side of me, and then your just misbehaving on track.
tbh it's kind of about driving style since both f1 smooth and tip your wheel rally styles can be done in a kart and neither has been way more dominant than the other. i personally prefer smoothness since liftoff scares me.
Outdoors I do a quick, aggressive steering input to rotate the rear (not fully sliding, just on the limit) then quickly straighten it out as I'm applying throttle, I've found that much faster than trying to keep full grip F1 style. Indoor I have no idea how to be fast, I'm losing 1 second per lap to a guy I'm head to head with outdoor
That goes for race karts absoloutley, but most outdoor rental karts the fastest way is to yank the wheel on entry to force some tyre lift and therby rotation
this ^^ i work at a track, its all about jerking the wheel initially to get turn in and keeping your fronts straight as much as possible to maintain speed since indoor karts especially have awful acceleration, outdoors is more steering with brake/throttle since they have more power, indoors is more steering input + some throttle control and maybe a very slight tap of the brakes
@@sixtenallingersandgren6674it depends on how fast/powerful the karts are, faster karts like 2 strokes or twin engines that go 70+ mph are more brake/throttle control steering and it looks like youre not even touching the wheel, at least for corners that arent too tight, gets more exaggerated the more powerful the karts are, or at least it tends to, im not sure about super karts though, those things are insane
If they are doing that to you they are trying to get past. Let them. If you know you are faster then you can practice overtaking someone who is driving defensively, if you aren’t faster then stick on their tail and try to copy their line, you might learn something!
@@thememesofgaming391 the 50 lap races or the music playlist? 50 lap races are every wednesday evening and saturday morning at TS Edmonton. sometimes the marshalls will play a music playlist through the PA system, but usually that's only for races that happen near the end of the day.
I work at an indoor track but at our track, most turns you need to slide it a ton otherwise it’s slower. The cars we have just love to rotate and we have a hard tire compound. If you don’t like them the cars are unhappy and slow.
this is the problem that rises when the serious guys and fun guys go to the same track. imo serious guys should choose their tracks and only use those. because just like me, most fun guys are too dumb to organize stuff like that.
Depends for every track because the one I go to most turns you wanna take smooth but some others you can take pretty rough and jerk it and you’ll gain some time not much though.
so you didnt watch the video... the only difference between outdoor and indoor is the surface, he is making a generalisation that indoor is less grippy, which generally it is. obviously it "depends on the corner and surface" THATS THE POINT OF THE VIDEO
I feel like you spend more time making contact than you do actually driving, may as well pit manuver the fucker or learn how to give someone an inch and if you can't do that learn how to drive within your skill range
Essentially, you have to steer harder on outdoor tracks that have more traction. For indoor tracks, you dont steer as hard cause the tracks are more slippery and you will slide too much and lose speed.
I can’t afford to be aggressive at my kart track. Indoor/outdoor track, but it’s all concrete so it is rather slippery and all about maintaining momentum
Indoor karting are driving a car are the complete opposite in my opinion. I'd have to study this track a bit closer but some corners indoor are much easier to slide around that to take a smooth clean turn in, unlike outdoor karting where sliding loses you a LOT of time (and also ruins the wheels😅)
You’ve gotta be smooth in the sense that you don’t want to lose momentum - EVER - in an in-door kart because it’s a tonne of hard work to get that momentum back
What? Im pretty sure it's the other way around. All the alien drivers I've seen in indoor karting yank the wheel at almost every turn-in. Whereas the aliens in outdoor karting are very very smooth.
I have noticed that I lose time driving smoothly than hard as I weigh so little I can chuck the kart in and it responds as thats probably why you couldnt follow his line as he is a much lighter driver than you
It works for the other driver but not for you, not because the surface is too sliippery as you say, it is the same for everyone, but because he is better than you at controlling the kart in the turn.
I have never driven an ‘indoor’ go kart, but I there are multiple things that affect how a real kart handles. Tyre compound, front wheel camber, the stiffness of the axle etc. You don’t acquire a style that picks up the inside wheel, karts are designed to flex to do this because they don’t have a differential. I presume these karts have hard compound tyres for longevity which makes them slide around more.
Lemme tell you this. I weigh 360 pounds. IDC how hard I jerk that wheel, I guarantee you that inside rear wheel ain't coming up. For me it's all inertia driving.
With indoor karting the fastest way is to keep momentum. Brake as little as possible and only scrub a bit of the speed off. They’re not fast enough to need to brake and if you slow too much you can’t get the speed back.
you have to be very very smooth with your inputs in an indoor kart!
Definitely. Any mistake could result in you spinning out, or getting T-boned by the guy directly in front of you, or sometimes both at the same time.
Not necessarily. I work at an indoor team sport, and every single one of the fastest drivers, on the slower hairpins, where you have to break, slams the break and puts the kart into a spin, power-sliding out of the corner. It picks up seconds to the other drivers
@@endgamerplays been there too many times. god, my neck…
@@BolivGaming yeah exactly, get the back end to do some extra rotating so you can take more speed into the corner. then its just all about making sure you minimise speed scrubbing
@@tomorainns145that's it, all whilst using minimum steering input. The one behind does it all to perfection. The one in front holds on well though 😊
Wait a second i know that track .......
Is it just me but when karting I pull the wheel down with my inside hand rather than up with my outside hand?
Are you racing Lando?
Isn’t there a golf place there as well?
No. It’s the difference between rental karts and real karts
Indoor sucks
-I've never driven a car
-I play lots of racing games
-I have pedals and wheels
I go to track. I don't drive kart like car. I know not how to drive car. I do good.
english left the chat crying
surprisingly, it was the same for me. I learned driving on Gran Turismo 5 and a TM Ferrari Challenge wheel.
I went to outside karting track near home, I drove kart the kart, and it feel like in GT 5 but without the ribs hurting. I did 40mins on my first day.
It was a very fun day, made me appreciate the racing/sim games more.
I am glad to read someone else feel similarly.
my brain getting cancer reading the last part
I play F1 2020. I have wheel. I race. I go to kart. I race. Me win
@@zSqlarr intentionally
Can't imagine it helps when you're knocking into him 2/3 times a lap😂😂
If hes losing speed due to the reason the guy explains when he tries it. Then its his own fault hes being rammed.
@@Boberto385 ramming in racing is illegal whatever the reason
@@tanay6003agree, he's on the racing line, and he's fast ENOUGH, so yeah absolutely it's the job of the person behind to not be hitting them multiple times... but if they're taking crazy lines and cutting back onto the racing line randomly, then that could be called intentional blocking.... in this video, I think he's completely entitled to the line that he's taking, and a slight bit more space in the rear... although this is karting, so little taps are way more.. allowed. Cameron is just being aggressive because he's faster.. there are many times where the person in P1 is slower, but if they just take the perfect line and keep their speed, then P2 has no chance to overtake
@@Mike_Stanford I completely agree with you, and thank you for your calm and kind explanation of the situation, have a great day!
@@tanay6003 In Nascar they use the technique of bumpdrafting, the driver behind receives a slipstream and in return you give the driver ahead a push. They use it to catch up to the leaders or drive away from the pack, that only works when the drivers have the same speed. You can use that same technique in outdoor karting with long straights too. But talking about indoor, as you saw in this video this has no effect on the driver in front he actually gains very little with it. And when your a little faster on a tight indoor track it can be very hard to find a way past, especially when you cannot really outbrake him. An example for myself at my local karting track there is an S turn wich is pretty much full throttle for me but not for most other people, and after that comes a straight with a tight hairpin so when I came out of the S turn I had much better momentum then the driver ahead so I don't wanna ruin my own momentum by going off the throttle. So what you do is just give them a little tap at the back, (also works very handy with unexperienced drivers who don't watch to see if there is anyone behind) to let them know I'm there and then I could safely go for the move into the hairpin without problems. But if you really bump hard into people on purpose then yeah you are just an asshole haha. I also had this once into that same hairpin a person didn't expect me we had a little touch I went past and the first hard braking zone he just went full throttle into the side of me, and then your just misbehaving on track.
it annoys how u still touching the kart, take distance or pass him!
It's Karting, little taps like this happen all the time. Calm yo ass.
thats the point, you can. tell is in able to pass so he is pressuring him to make a mistake. its common racing knowledge
You don’t know shi about karting
Its near impossible to always give the space without small taps, maybe if you actually raced youd know
@@danewilson3789 bro that is not pressure that is bumping you don’t bump unless it’s a short track or a wreck that’s basic racing knowledge
You bump his rear 5 times in 10 seconds...
thats because the one in front of him is slower than him in every turn
@Raul Hareza that doesn't give you the right to ram him every corner💀
@@xrxsxax he do what he wants. As you guys said in all his video "let -insert his opponents- have fun", so why can't the op have fun
Whenever he gets bumped he has a fit but when he does it all fine
@@xrxsxaxyou must have no clue how karting works. educate yourself.
That helmet from the front person looks like Lando Norris helemet.
Its Henry. He's rapid.
I think it’s other way round, outdoor karting is all about how smooth you are. We barely turn the wheel.
tbh it's kind of about driving style since both f1 smooth and tip your wheel rally styles can be done in a kart and neither has been way more dominant than the other. i personally prefer smoothness since liftoff scares me.
Outdoors I do a quick, aggressive steering input to rotate the rear (not fully sliding, just on the limit) then quickly straighten it out as I'm applying throttle, I've found that much faster than trying to keep full grip F1 style. Indoor I have no idea how to be fast, I'm losing 1 second per lap to a guy I'm head to head with outdoor
That goes for race karts absoloutley, but most outdoor rental karts the fastest way is to yank the wheel on entry to force some tyre lift and therby rotation
this ^^ i work at a track, its all about jerking the wheel initially to get turn in and keeping your fronts straight as much as possible to maintain speed since indoor karts especially have awful acceleration, outdoors is more steering with brake/throttle since they have more power, indoors is more steering input + some throttle control and maybe a very slight tap of the brakes
@@sixtenallingersandgren6674it depends on how fast/powerful the karts are, faster karts like 2 strokes or twin engines that go 70+ mph are more brake/throttle control steering and it looks like youre not even touching the wheel, at least for corners that arent too tight, gets more exaggerated the more powerful the karts are, or at least it tends to, im not sure about super karts though, those things are insane
I would be so irritated with someone riding my butt like that and bumping me lol
Then speed up or get outta the way. That’s a blue flag if I ever saw one
Guy on top of me is true. If someone is bumping you then move away or speed tf up
If they are doing that to you they are trying to get past. Let them. If you know you are faster then you can practice overtaking someone who is driving defensively, if you aren’t faster then stick on their tail and try to copy their line, you might learn something!
Then be faster or deal with it😂 That's racing
I recently did a 50 lap race on this actual track. I even made a Spotify playlist for the race while I drive
Cap don’t lie they don’t do that
@@thememesofgaming391 the 50 lap races or the music playlist?
50 lap races are every wednesday evening and saturday morning at TS Edmonton.
sometimes the marshalls will play a music playlist through the PA system, but usually that's only for races that happen near the end of the day.
@@thememesofgaming391 teamsport do 50 lap races at Edmonton and other venues
Congratulations!
I didn’t listen to the music that was playing in the track. I wore AirPods while racing and had my own playlist
I work at an indoor track but at our track, most turns you need to slide it a ton otherwise it’s slower. The cars we have just love to rotate and we have a hard tire compound. If you don’t like them the cars are unhappy and slow.
Always thought ur American I’ve been there too it’s good
He is an American.
He lives in the UK because the championships happen there. But yes, he is American.
At least you ain't calling people NPCs unironically
“So this is the difference between someone enjoying themselves and someone taking karting too seriously”
Except when you're with like minded folk, battling for position and going as fast as possible is where all the enjoyment comes in.
this is the problem that rises when the serious guys and fun guys go to the same track. imo serious guys should choose their tracks and only use those. because just like me, most fun guys are too dumb to organize stuff like that.
Depends for every track because the one I go to most turns you wanna take smooth but some others you can take pretty rough and jerk it and you’ll gain some time not much though.
Most of the places I’ve been, the karts aren’t evenly matched. There’s are always a few that are way faster. Sucks for league races
Furthermore your right on his tail which makes it harder to have good corners if you did it on your own you may not lose any time or as much
This is bullshit. This depends on the turn itself and on the racing surface
so you didnt watch the video... the only difference between outdoor and indoor is the surface, he is making a generalisation that indoor is less grippy, which generally it is. obviously it "depends on the corner and surface" THATS THE POINT OF THE VIDEO
This is my practice track
Edmonton Teamsport?
Hoddeston i think, or harlow
i think it is edmonton
Where do you pick up the green, red and blue shells
I feel like you spend more time making contact than you do actually driving, may as well pit manuver the fucker or learn how to give someone an inch and if you can't do that learn how to drive within your skill range
Always pitty the guy into the death corners
I really hate indoors electric karts, it feels weird and being outdoor with a real engine is just such a better feeling
Team sport Basildon has indoor engine karts if you live near
Is this the one in north London?
I rAcE gO kArTs...
Essentially, you have to steer harder on outdoor tracks that have more traction. For indoor tracks, you dont steer as hard cause the tracks are more slippery and you will slide too much and lose speed.
i genuinely never driven a gokart indoors so if i ever do, that's a good tip.
I can’t afford to be aggressive at my kart track. Indoor/outdoor track, but it’s all concrete so it is rather slippery and all about maintaining momentum
You complain about people bumping into you and call them npc's but you hit that guy multiple times in your pretentious little youtube short.
I’m doing my first pro karting 4 day camp in a few days, I can’t wait to drive my new kart, it’s a lot faster than I’m used to, (104kmh)
Indoor karting are driving a car are the complete opposite in my opinion. I'd have to study this track a bit closer but some corners indoor are much easier to slide around that to take a smooth clean turn in, unlike outdoor karting where sliding loses you a LOT of time (and also ruins the wheels😅)
You’ve gotta be smooth in the sense that you don’t want to lose momentum - EVER - in an in-door kart because it’s a tonne of hard work to get that momentum back
how do you find the perfect balance???? It's making me have abrain aneurysm
What? Im pretty sure it's the other way around. All the alien drivers I've seen in indoor karting yank the wheel at almost every turn-in.
Whereas the aliens in outdoor karting are very very smooth.
Would the aggressive turn in work for a spec clone chassis? Like a basic kart chassis, idk how else to explain it lol
Edmonton TeamSport
I have noticed that I lose time driving smoothly than hard as I weigh so little I can chuck the kart in and it responds as thats probably why you couldnt follow his line as he is a much lighter driver than you
You shouldnt flick the wheel like they guy infront of you in outside karting (real karting) but in indoor karting you can flick the wheel.
It works for the other driver but not for you, not because the surface is too sliippery as you say, it is the same for everyone, but because he is better than you at controlling the kart in the turn.
Wait is this in Scotland? I went to a place the other month with similar karts, look of the building and track, and the same jumpsuits
So outdoors karting is like driving an FWD car in the corners, you need help with that rotation.
Or like a 50:50 AWD car
Cameron pop down TeamSport Warrington you’d love it it’s an outdoor track inside
That’s for the information I absolutely destroyed my friends, and go karting
I been there before!! Great place to go karting if you’re new. But either way it’s so fun!
How is it possible that indoor is more like driving car? Outdoor have closely same canditions
Well, do you pay for your PIT stops and go karts or is it just clubs?
Why do you bump him ? Looks like that can take him off his line . But I might be wrong
I love getting my head banged in the bar while driving thank God for helmets
I didn't understand a thing but I will save it to when I start driving karts more often than once a year
I find indoor so boring. It feels kind of shitty too. Outdoor tracks all the way.
Where do you race? Looking for suggestions for good places In the Uk
I go here !!!!
What’s it called
@@sadisthenewcool Edmonton TeamSport
As someone who raced real Go karts no fun kart is anything like a real Go kart. 😂
This channel is a gold mine to help me destroy my brother next time we go indoor karting
Is that a teamsport track I love their tracks except for one in Birmingham it has shitty staff
Can I drive with you? I am good 👍 would say better then you hehe 😜
I you bumped me that many times I would reach back and grab your kart
So, outdoors you have to be more agressive with the steering wheel than indoors?
He said karting.. like it's a sport. It's for kids homie get a job
You sound like the guy who grows weed on a TH-cam channel somewhere 😂
I’m pretty sure that’s the right place I won the golf at that place
difference is indoor is boring AF, rest is driver skill to adapt
Do you race in a league or something? or do you just go karting for fun?
What go carting place is that cuz I think it’s in the uk and I been there
as a track martial, i can definitely say y’all r ass at driving go karts 😭
What does it mean to "pick up the inside rear wheel" please ?
This is what Michael Schumacher did in his V10 F1 car
Stop hitting the kart in front should be a black flag
What Go Kart are you using in this video the electric one
You don’t know the first thing about racing
It’s more to do with sliding into a corner offers braking at the same time so you can stay on the throttle more.
I noticed so many possible ways to pass that guy
Over-analysis of toy racing.
İt depends what track you go to
Why are you bumping into everyone
Coming from the sim, I was garbage with outdoor karts. I just wasn't agressive enough.
loser manlet
I can beat him without being a nerd
I agree with a lot of what you said
I think you are too humble 😅
I race outdoor on dirt but it is a oval
How much is indoor carting
Depends on the surface tbh
You can drift on the carts?
I am bad at Go Karting
Outdoor is better
so I have to turn hard outdoor?
I have never driven an ‘indoor’ go kart, but I there are multiple things that affect how a real kart handles. Tyre compound, front wheel camber, the stiffness of the axle etc. You don’t acquire a style that picks up the inside wheel, karts are designed to flex to do this because they don’t have a differential. I presume these karts have hard compound tyres for longevity which makes them slide around more.
Do you even drive a real car?
That's team sport go carts
London track right?
Is that the one in Edmonton
Lemme tell you this. I weigh 360 pounds. IDC how hard I jerk that wheel, I guarantee you that inside rear wheel ain't coming up. For me it's all inertia driving.
With indoor karting the fastest way is to keep momentum. Brake as little as possible and only scrub a bit of the speed off. They’re not fast enough to need to brake and if you slow too much you can’t get the speed back.
Jesus loves you God bless
Get off his bumper