Why No One Wants to Buy Modern Chinese Fighter Jets?
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- 🌍💥 China's quest for global arms trade dominance is facing a major hurdle! Despite becoming a top arms exporter and developing advanced jets like the J-20 and J-10, China struggles to sell modern fighter jets on the global stage. 🚀✈️ In this video, we delve into why the demand for Chinese jets is so low, exploring factors like quality, price, and political influence. Will China break through these barriers? #GlobalDominance #FighterJets #MilitaryPower #ChinaArmsExport #China #globalpolitics #globalmarketing #MilitaryTechnology #AirForce #DefenseIndustry #J20 #J10 #ArmsTrade
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The only reason China hasn't released a 6th Gen aircraft is because America hasn't shown its 6th Gen aircraft yet
China has no one to steal 6th gen technology from. 😂
👍👍 They don’t know what shape to cut the cardboard pieces to make it look scary.
🤣🤣🤣
I actually laughed out loud 😂
@@JohnLee-db9zt apparently you have failed to hear about NGAD 6th Gen USA jet which has already been in and had successful test flights which means it's not very far from being complete, and then China gonna try everything under the sun to get those schematics which they probably already do 😂😂
I believe you can buy a Chinese fighter jet on Temu
And it arrives pre-broken in the crate.
Wish offers cheaper ones.
Only $2 with free shipping.
LOL
Alibaba
If china took 5 years to design and manufacture a good ballpen domestically imagine how many years just to make a competitive jet engine.
But other than china theres only two other countries that can create ballpoint pen heads that beeing japan and Switzerland
To be precise the tip of the ballpoint pen. I not really fond of China but at least get your information right
Probably never.
@@phamkhoa0105it is. It took China 5 years to make machinery to produce balls of pens precise and fast. This was famous news.
Our tech is very sophisticated. Other countries spend decades developing technology. The reason why it took China such a few years is cuz they stole it. Everyone knows it and has proved it.
If you wanna see how developing modern weapons for a new country looks like, read about India's developments. Slowly developing each technology and removing foreign parts one by one. Unlike China who just unveiled a new jet like a gift.
Not germany ? @@gaviantxc8213
Waiting for the day a J-20 gets the Foxbat history, mimicking a MiG-25 Foxbat pilot defected from the USSR, wherein US found out that the fighter they were afraid of actually turned out to be bollocks and the jet they've built against it was overpowered in every single way.
oh yeah the chad F-15 104-0 💪
It wasn't "bollocks", it was designed as a very specific kind of interceptor... Not a fighter
Yeah but they marketed it to the rest of the world as a fighter rather than an interceptor, which is why it scared the U.S so bad because it could “supposedly” do all these super advanced maneuvers and was incredibly fast. In response the U.S developed the most dominant combat fighter known to man, the 104-0 F-15
Sadly it might be the other way.
@@TigerOwO good joke 🤣
My concern as a buyer would not necessarily be the quality - not everything the Chinese make is dubious quality and made from chinesium - but what little tricks might be hidden in the electronics to spy on the user or maybe even sabotage military activity.
I've worked in China setting up a production line for a joint venture, consistency is the greatest problem in Chinese production.
Truthful documentation of processes is impossible due to culture, you'll have days of inferior production quality without noticing, it's a quality control nightmare.
@@marcusott2973 Hong Kong used to be great fun (before we gave it back). Visit a product supplier and inspect the goods: no problem; ask to see the factory, and suddenly their command of English (previously excellent) fails completely, and they cannot understand what you are asking.
@@Alan-ln3lsu brit?
Former German Chancellor Merkel is more courageous when it comes to this aspect.
America：？
I’ve never even had good luck with Chinese screwdrivers. If I was in the market for a fighter jet, a Made in China one wouldn’t even cross my mind. Forget it.
but your Chinese keyboard is working just fine
If i had an okay budget i would go for the French ones and a big budget the American 5th gen.
@@MetaView7 No, the space bar arrived broken. I had to fix it myself.
@@MetaView7my Chinese keyboard keeps steeling my passwords.
@@Lyle-In-NO Good furya !
I worked for an aircraft company. We had certain airframes that Came from a chinese outsource manufacturer. The fit and finish and quality Of their work. Was so shotty, nearly Every airframe had to have some kind of major repair. It ended up being more costly to have a chinese manufacturer.
😂
wow.. the comment is very trustworthy
It’s terrible part is that China now has the engineering and manufacturing capability to produce those. That company probably spent tens of millions to develop their air frame and while China may make low quality now it will lead to them producing high-quality air frames with zero investment in development. Companies that used Chinese manufacturing to are responsible for trillions and economic losses for the United States. GE was the largest company in the world before they started manufacturing in China.
@@the_manofculture oh yeah? Who would ever believe that the quality of cheap Chinese military technology and other goods are bad?.....Oh yeah, literally everyone who doesn't live in China 😂
Don't worry, I'm sure some African warlords will still buy peak Chinese war machine: Toyotas... Oh wait, nevermind that's not Chinese either 🤣🤣🤣
This is because China wants to give us scrappy airplane parts, thinking that we are dumb and will assemble an airplane with scrappy parts 😂😂 nope lol we have the most dominate airforce, navy and personnel. We are smart, not dumb 😂
How to put this, the US spends gobs of money and is pretty much always actively deployed somewhere. If this is a good use of resources can be debated, but it does generally result in a well equipped force with pratical experience.
it's true, looking at China, their army is inexperienced, training is poor and there is also corruption in the Chinese army, China resembles Russia because promotions to positions in China are mainly due to loyalty to the Chinese party and also the navy, poor technology like the land army, lack of nuclear-powered ships and smaller ships, i.e. mainly tonnage and this works to the advantage of the USA, so the USA continues to develop its economy, the military and technologies are developing rapidly in the USA, China mainly has an economic problem, reminiscent of Japan in the 1980s, but I think positively about the USA because I am an optimist, but not everyone can be pessimistic, but that's their business as the US thinks
you can't be any more wrong though.....
China has the best marching experience of any country. Their soldiers display an unprecidented 0 fatalities/parade. Their various military operations against rebellions and protests demonstrates full knowledge of battlefield logistics. The paper on which their specs are hyped up, is made of the finest testicle skin. @@mateuszpitala9458
This. The US has forgotten more about how to conduct (and support) military action than China will ever know.
@@CorePathway if the usa has forgotten, it conducts and supports military operations better than china
@@CorePathway The USA knows how to conduct and support military operations
Sweden makes excellent jets, often ahead of their time, and countries aren't lining up to buy them. There are a lot of political factors in aircraft purchases. For example, America has several very large scale aircraft manufacturers. If a foreign made aircraft won competition and was selected by the U.S. military, severe public criticism would occur. That situation probably exists for many weapon systems.
This argument, that is true for the US, hardly applies to all the smaller countries out in the world market for military jets. There is no domestic competition in Malaysia, Vietnam, Switzerland, UAE, Iraq, Jordan, Venezuela… you get the point. They still aren’t buying from China. Go figure.
But Gripens now are quite old platform for it price btw
One of the most important factors regarding any military system is ensuring ongoing and quick support for it. If it's adopted at its home country, if it has other clients who demand service and can become a third party supplier, how much is the foreign government likely to deny you service due to a political conflict (either directly or through sanctions), and how much you can support it locally.
Plus - on a personal level - no one making purchasing decisions wants to be the guinea pig.
Nobody want gripen tho
I don’t think the swedes make a aircraft that is any better than anything the USA or France makes
I agree, "on paper" is the key phrase. On paper Russia has an impressive military force. And the best navy in the Black sea. And a mighty air force with powerful fighters. And very effective tank divisions. On paper. But we all have seen a very different reality. On paper means nothing.
Our stuff is so good, even our enemies wanna buy from us.
naaah to me it's real simple! if you have the steal the specs in order to "create" a fighter jets, it follows logic that you probably really don't understand what it is your doing, cause if you did.. you wouldn't need to steal specs!
Female opinions don't count
You are 100% correct!
reverse engineering is not advanced tech knowledge at all. copying what other do makes nobody special or relevant. the world doesnt need countries like north korea china and russia. covid missed about 2 billion absolutely worthless people in 2020
I think that’s a good point but I think in a different way.
It’s whenever the countries that have had their specs stolen and reverse engineered suddenly do home grown upgrades that they roll out to their models and customers. The Chinese logistics chain then have to either steal the new specs again or somehow parallel engineer it.
Buyers may be wary of that. Give the Russians credit. They also have a much better track record of coming up with their own technologies.
Well you’re crying about their fighter jets because they’re making their own specs instead of buying everything from you.
It’s odd that China is trying to tell everyone how modern they are but still claim developing nation status to get all that cheap postage.
Modernization and developing countries are not contradictory. The paradox is your brain.
@@huas5350 but compared to the west, china is backward, even japan or south korea are developed countries
@@mateuszpitala9458 It's not inconsistent with what I said. China is a developing country and is certainly not as developed as the West in general. Don’t just mention Japan and South Korea. Poland, Romania, and the Czech Republic are also developed countries in the West. Go to these countries at the same time, then go to China, and then compare the modernization
@@huas5350 I can distinguish a developed country from a developing one very well, don't forget that China is still a developing country and the USA is a developed country and it is also worth noting that China stole Western technologies
@@mateuszpitala9458 Japan and South Korea have way less land to develop and still have less technology. Even your America looks more backward to them.
There's nothing 5th Gen bout the J-20! Not the avionics, ot the engines, not stealth capabilities, not the weapons, and for damn sure...not the coatings and the FC-31 is NO DIFFERENT.
They may as well use biplanes. J =Junk 👍👍
Exactly, nothing but self-proclaimed nonsese.
@@shawnwhitter5968 👍 Much like their GDP, their population size, their “innovation”, their 9 Dash Line, their “democracy, with Chinese characteristics”, their consumer market size… The entire place is a sham.
I believe China got the stealth fighter that was shot down in the former Yugoslavia and the stealth helicopter left behind in Pakistan after the bin laden raid so they might have some kind of advanced coating.
@@AGhostintheHouse Maybe they have a coating but I wouldn't call it advanced
The J20 doesn't have vectoring thrust and is a Bullseye for a heat seeking Missiles.
Don't forget the stealth canards.
That's why the PLAAF has ordered their J20's to avoid contact with ALL US fighter aircraft...to prevent us from getting good 'data snapshots' of it.
j-20B with new engine have since 2021 was test.
"In October 2023, the Pentagon reported that PLAAF was preparing upgrades for the J-20, including extended weapon-carrying capability, thrust vectoring nozzles, control systems for unmanned aircraft teaming, and WS-15 high thrust engines."
Huh...the truth about J20 being ordered to run away from US jets got censored...wonder why?
@@blitskreegdeantioch5851
You beat me to it, LOL. The canards make it about as stealthy as downtown Chicago.
Man inflation is a bitch. I remember back in the day when an F-15 cost only 28 million dollars, much less a tiny F-16 costing 63 million dollars.
inflation + mainstreamed production line means the F16 isn't that far or is cheaper than the f15. same with the F35, it is now cheaper to make the F35 than to make F16s because we changed production
J20 does not allow exports. J11/J15/J16 has an agreement with Russia that does not allow exports. Only J10/J31 can be exported. Considering the global political landscape, Europe and the Americas will not use Chinese fighter jets. The only remaining regions are Africa, South Asia, and some parts of the Middle East.
true and most of usa allies buy only stuff form usa so that also a fact i think russia is a ture nation selling more jets.
@@aquagaming3480 Not only from the United States. Many of Americas' allies also buy european such as the Eurofighter Typhoon and the Rafale and also are collaborating with europeans with various projects like the upcoming sixth generation fighter jets.
The United States still dominates overall but countries like the United Kingdom, France, Japan ect are still buying, selling and working with eachother.
I think it's highly likely that no country from East, South East or South Asia would buy from China. That would be dumb
@@aquagaming3480not true at all USA allies buy from South Korea, France, UK, Sweden, Japan, Spain, Germany Just to name a few, pretty much everyone not Russian or Chinse
@@bkeckk but they aint usa product. i think so he said usa made not allies. and china is new to market but usa is old player and its falling behind.
'Let your enemimies underestimate you'
~SunTzu
Lol that's not what the ccp is doing though. Ccp is constantly trying to intimidate it's enemies.
Sun Tzu never won a war
@kishanthakar8715 he won in the battle of boju
Enemimies 😂
@@Ben4A Correcting my typo? ur clearly mad abt this comment tho🤡
Buying the knockoff version will get yo ass knocked off.
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As a Chinese, I'm glad to observe the general sense from the content of this video and majority of the comments. Keep it up
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Where on earth (other than IN China) does “Made in China” equal quality? Nowhere.
in russia
Just because they have lots of trash, doesn't mean they can't have quality, too.
USA also made lots of trash, like Ford and GM for example. But that's expensive trash, hehe..
Not even in China. 😂
@@KlausWittmann No dude, not even there. Their junk cars aren’t selling there because people got a taste of the shabby. Even Russian solderers are pissed about the Chinese weaponry they’re forced to use. Made in China is a joke the whole world over.
@@JohnLee-db9zt Exactly. Those in China with the means to do so buy western brands. China the Shabby!
The problem with Turkey is that it is a NATO member. When they joined NATO, we did not have sophisticated communications networks, so it was possible to purchase cheaper planes from Russia and China, but now the requirements for NATO have been significantly updated for hive capabilities. With an F-35, you can purchase the soon to be available drone wingman that will keep up with the F-35 for much cheaper. 1 F-35 will be able to control something like 4 drone wingman aircraft. This reduces costs by only requiring 1 pilot for 5 planes all capable of shooting down targets in a coordinated strike. You can also send the drones up ahead to protect the main command control. From what I read, these drones will have an automatic switchover to another nearby F-35 in the event that the assigned F-35 goes down. Drones will be the future. Hive networks are the future. With the network being put into place, even tanks, aircraft carriers, and AWACs in the area will be able to see all and control all.
That's right that's the new generation of artificial intelligence same thing as driverless cars
untill hackers etc find a way to turn it off or worse.
An Africa country bought 5 of them. But after 8 months all of them were out of order😢😢😢
You buy Harbor Freight tools, you get Harbor Freight performance. Until the second use, when your Harbor Freight tool snaps in two.
Excellent analogy...
is there such a thing as "modern" chinese jets?
Nope, just junk.
Everything they build literally falls apart
but you are buying lots of them. Thank you, the GDP has just gone up another notch.
@@MetaView7 who is ?
lol the ignorance
@@MetaView7 not to say anything, but the American economy is growing faster than the Chinese one, and in addition, the USA has increased its advantage over China from PLN 5 trillion in 2021 to PLN 10 trillion in 2024
@@MetaView7Chyna Assembled by slave labor only! Meaning you just putting it together, quality control by the western firm since the CCP brands highly lacks this!
I learned from a young age that ppl who try to brag about shit ain't shit.
Overhyped Raptor left the chat...
@@angelaferkel7922 make sense nah!
@@venomstylist9812 lmao i love how you cry about overhyped stuff being sh*t but yet the Raptor is one of the most overhyped fighters in the world... Its literally technology from the 90's originally meant to fight the soviet union.. but hey it shot down a balloon :))
If you didnt notice, we live in 2024 with more advanced radars and IR sensors and in a fight against China the short range and lacking ability to be used on carriers makes the Raptor completely obsolete. Its Americas J20 to show the world i have this super fighter. In reality both are overhyped way too much
@@angelaferkel7922 All American kit is overhyped
@@anglo-saxonenglish3565 yess its what i tried to say
The J-31 will probably have a niche within the market of countries that want the F-35 but cannot because the political cost is too high, countries such as Egypt, Saudi, Emirates, and Pakistan come to mind.
Good point. Historically, countries that don't want to deal with US diplomatic pressure buy tech from countries that don't ask so many questions.
@@hanrockabrand95 Yeah, it can also be used to pressure America to give into demands because by that point America would be at a loss if they were to not give in, the UAE did this when they threatened and went through with their Mirage 2000 deal all the way back in the late 90s because the US did not want to sell them F-16's, this later developed into another deal where the UAE even got a custom radar built for their F-16 order.
you are not a well versed one are you? UAE already has a deal in place for 50 F35's. Saudi Arabia will either join the Abraham accords and purchase the F35 or they will help develop the Tempest. The Gulf states are also investing in the KF-21. The only foreign market you mentioned for Chinese fighters is Pakistan.
China no Make junk ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 😳😵💫😝😜😂😘
@@davidporter7051 Nice one but the UAE largely backed out of the deal because of a stipulation that said that it would have to not use it against Israel in any future scenario, sure they could get it eventually but for now the Rafale F4 will suffice. Tempest is also a long way ahead and Saudi involvement is not yet confirmed because Japan had objections to their participation. Lastly, KF-21 will not compete as a fifth-gen fighter so it is not even logical to bring it up.
If there's one product for which you want a good, thorough, well-written English manual, it's probably a fighter jet.
😂
China really dropped the ball with relations with the Philippines. Big facepalm.
Philippines choose 100% USA thats why happends there wahts happens. Mid-range US rockets are lcoated there.
Because it didn’t surrender.
Southeast Asia is arming themselves to deter China, who is claiming ownership of the whole of South China Sea.
Who would buy their over rated "fighters" when their CCP government are bullying their neighbors and potential clients?
Now this is from real experience in the mining industry. They can't even make dependable mining equipment!
Yes their equipment are cheaper than European or American equipment but they cost more in the long run because they took to long to install, double or triple the maintenance cost because the parts break and wear faster, unsatisfactory after sales support, incomprehensible (but hilariously funny chinglish) manuals and sometimes non-existing maintenance manuals, etc.
The disadvantages of buying chinese equipment that costs millions of dollars are too long to list.
Now that was just civilian equipment. Would you buy military equipment worth billions of dollars from manufacturers with that reputation? Well maybe some would if the chinese grease the palms of the client government's officials and generals with kickbacks 🤣
In 2018 an Indian Su-34 fighter pilot reported he had tracked a Chinese J-20 while flying recon over the Himalayas revealing the Chinese fighter's NON-STEALTHY-NESS!
Stop hurting chinese people feelings 😂
And then the Indian pilot hit it with a stick and scared it away.
oh ，I Know.Su34 is made in India.good job。
All air planes must tag an iff repeater in order for identification at ambient cases… Because radar should trace all planes flight for accident prevention … In case of war , j20 will be stealthy without iff repeater absolutely …
india, the self believed superpower, took a week to liberate mumbai from 20 terrorists
Economy through military sales is different from economy through domestic sales.Superiority in military technology is a priority and not for sharing to other countries.
Another major concern has been the quality of a lot of Chinese jets, especially when it comes to operational use. Chinese jets like the J-7 have historically seen a very low serviceability rate in other air forces, and even more recent aircraft like the JF-17 have seen major quality concerns with the few nations that do operate them.
Are you just saying it casually, or do you have real data?
@@user-vn6je8zw9l My apologies for this delayed response. However, Myanmar has already reported multiple operational difficulties with their JF-17s, and before the current civil war flared up, they were talking about returning the jets, with Pakistan sending technical personnel to look at the issues. There are a number of articles detailing the same. Even Pakistan's JF-17s have been reported to be facing low availability rates, but there aren't too many sources for that.
@@anantr99 considering the jf17 has a confirmed kill of a drone and another fighter jet as well, quality concerns are very rare
@@Bcap420 Having a drone or fighter kill doesn't say anything about the aircraft. It means the missiles used are decent, but it doesn't say anything about the aircraft's operational readiness.
They're made in China. You don't need a video to answer this question.
LMAO. You have no idea how many of the critical systems and components are made in China. Boeing planes have a large number of parts came from China. Same with your car, phone, PC, and medicine. So please learn and investigate before you speak.
@urnomatchforme That's why everything made today is junk. Made in China. Reaganomics, my friend. Goodbye American made. Hello, Amazon and Sam's Club. You presume too much.
@urnomatchforme Your presumption of my level of intelligence on the matter amuses me. As my rhetorical response has been blocked, please, by all means, educate me on the quality of Chinese craftsmanship. 😯
The phone you are using is made in china
@@Bcap420not true lol
Had china not shown expansionist mindset, and made India a rival, both countries together could have rocked the world.
Never look down on Chinese technology. They are improving every days.
Every days...yup
The US names their jets F for Fierce, China names their jets J for Junk.
F = Fighter B = Bomber A = Attack C = Cargo
Ha ha!
J stands for Jean. It means Fighter in Chinese. F in US stands for Fighter! eg Fighter-16 = F-16. Jean-10 = J-10.
@@Blackbirdz2000 J = Junk
Yes, junk is junk
China and Russia are not on the same level as we are on engines. That is their weakness
Affordable new jets like the KAI FA-50 Golden Eagle, Textron Scorpion, and Boeing-Saab T-7 Red Hawk are missing from the cheap new planes that are being ordered today. They can be used for general patrol and training. Even though they have a T designation, they can be used beyond just training. The US is replacing the T-38 with the T-7 Red Hawk, but I am sure it will also be replacing the F-5 and F-20 with either the T-7 or T-50. The FA-50 has the GE 414 engine and the ability to do Mach 1.5.
Saw something where countries that bought their jets in the last decade decided to swap out for French or U.S. made jets. I'm guessing they seemed cheap at first, but there are issues with the engines in terms of maintenance or even requiring replacement. They even went for used aircraft from other countries to replace those, so that may be a tell.
I don't know where you heard that the USA has problems with engines, but China certainly has problems with its metallurgy, copying from abroad and poor quality and technology.
@@mateuszpitala9458 You misread it, swapped the Chinese jets out. Since it's in the context of the main video article.
@@pauljs75 ok
“Made in China” speaks for itself
so probably something weak
lol it's 202 teslas are made in china lol
@@shoshe-jd4gf but they are made in the USA because it is an American company
@@mateuszpitala9458 yes but the tech chips used in it are chinese
@@shoshe-jd4gf Not entirely, China has a problem with semiconductors when it comes to the production of good quality, that's why the USA imposed tariffs on semiconductors so that China has a problem
so i didn't see any pakisthani claiming JF17 is ours in the comment section 🤣🤣
It's a partnership
What do you mean by "popularity contest"? Russia's sales are #2 in the world but one hardly thinks of Russia as "popular".
Russia become "Unpopular" is a new thing. Before 2014 Russia is a very "Popular" country with wide range customer. After the annexation of Crimea and lists of sanction from the western countries, it's popularity slowly declined. The major hit is after the US passed the CAATSA which made the country who didn't want to upset the US completely avoided Russia weapons included it's fighter jets. And, after Russia invasion of Ukraine, the sales is completely stopped, they needed it for their own war after all.
3:30 not entierly true either, SAAB makes GREAT Jet fighters, and have been sense 1950is, still we in Sweden dont sell that many of our planes, and today the JAS 39 Gripen is the one we sell. But we sold more than China at least.
*since, not sense
China single handedly started arms race in asia and most if not all of those countries are buying from western countries or south korea
14:57 why is a picture of Singapore used? LOL Singapore isn't China
it is part of china and Taiwan is also part of china. and usa is also part of china.
@@aquagaming3480 Correct!
@@aquagaming3480 the US is part of Israel can't you tell
It seems no one want to trust their national security by ordering fighter jets from Temu and spare parts from Aliexpress 😂
You can buy a Chinese jet on Temu for $1.99 but shipping costs $120 million.
US, Russia, India, Turkey, India, S.K: make weapons after decades of development.
China: *hippity hoppity I'll make your jet's copy*
India isn't even in competition
India, S.K？？？？？？？？？？you are funny😂
And it's people out there saying China catching up on USA 😂 There's a difference between over 800 billion and 200 billion. If you know you know
china is NOT catching up to america at all. reverse engineering shit doesnt make that tech equal to the original. if countries cant develop their own tech they dont deserve being on the world stage of anything. the thoughts and opinions of things dont make anything matter at all.
A huge chunk of that 800billion goes to maintaining bases in over 100 different countries not just procurement
honestly, economically people said that china would overtake the usa by 2020 but it didn't happen and then the usa increased its advantage over china economically technologically the same usa strengthened its advantage over china militarily the same usa strengthens its advantage over china the advantage of the usa is that it has a military and military equipment and technologies of better quality, for example, the US Navy is of better quality than the Chinese fleet
The 200 billion chinese defense budget is only the public one,i remember seeing US intelligence claim in reality its closer to 700 billion
When will china overtake us?
The day they start inventing thing not copying from usa
Usa have best academic they spend a lot in R&D unlike china Do R&D on copying
The descriptions were wrong at 5:20, read j-6 and mig-19 instead of j-7 and mig-21
July 2015, Myanmar became the first export customer of the JF-17 Thunder with an order for 16 Block II variants
How many are those in working conditions?
And how is that working out for them?
I bought a kids desk for my daughter and the screws that come with it didn’t even have the heads on straight I had to go buy proper ones from the shop (German made) if they can’t even make screws god help them I don’t even know how u can make screws bad in the first place
funny at @14:56 your using a city view of Singapore to showcase China...
Hah, i know exactly where that is
5:20 That slide is a bit off.
Turkey having Russian or Chinese technology means them figuring out how Nato technology works.
That's why we wouldn't sell F-35s to Turkey.
That's just BS . It doesn't work like that . They don't have also any significant Chinese tech used by military or was used to make something else . While from Russia they only have S400s which are significant, but they not even active.
They love showing off backflips. Hell of a way to market a fighter.
I suspect this whole situation has changed since the invasion of Ukraine. Russian must have now agreed to transfer the technologies, engines know-how, other favorable terms to China so China may give Russia a lifeline.
I don't see where that helps the Chinese at all. China must have surpassed them by now. The Russian tech is no where near as good as they say it is.
You're right
The only thing more expensive than a first rate air force is second teir air force.
*tier
What’s interesting is that importers in your countries buy $1 screwdrivers from China and sell them to you for $40, so you think Chinese products are of poor quality, we can also produce $1000 screwdrivers
Would you buy a combat aircraft from Temu?
Correct the indian map
cope
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The thing is if you buy weapons from a country then you are dependent on them for spares and supplies and that essentially means that that country has a veto on your military campability.
All in all as well as it being technically difficult to make a fighter jet (particularly engines) very few countries can **guarantee** that China will back them up in a conflict...
Actually 🇮🇳 used the most of its purchase from the own home grown defense companies no more relying on foreign countries in the defence sector.
Except the development of the Arjun tank is still a joke. After decades of investment, there is still nothing to show. The Tejas aircraft uses American bought engines. And they even use designs licensed from the Russians for simple things like firearms. It will still be 30-50 years for india to properly develop a MIC, and thats IF corruption doesn’t hinder efforts.
Flying samosa took 30 years to make and is full of imported parts
If the US is so protective of the F-22 tech secret from falling in the wrongs hands, why have they not shown the same concern for the F-35 which is even more sophisticated which is being sold to numerous other countries?
F-35 is an attack craft and theoretically can be defeated by an F16 under an ambush, the F22 is a full air superiority monster that is designed only to kill other jets. F-35s are scary and powerful, but the F22 is unmatchable in an air to air fight and is a lot more important to maintain as a state secret.
I suspect some tech unique to F-22 aren't shared with F-35
F22 is much stealtheir than F35
Nah, the issue is that the us congress and military industries didn't want sales of the f22 eating into those of the f35.
remember that they only sell to allied countries and, for example, Thailand wanted to buy the F35 but the US did not agree for fear that Thailand would pass on the plans to China
Who wants to buy cheap Chinese crap?
Why No One Wants to Buy Modern American Boeing?
Who wants to buy overpriced American crap?
@@hokroeger 👈 Hurt feelings 😂
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@@mikestewart4752 Exactly! USA's feelings have been hurt by China's success!
Yup our feelings are really hurt over here.😆
You forgot the most important reason, US sanctions or threaten sacntions. US threaten to sanction Turkey, Brazil, etc for just thinking of buying Chinese missles or other high tech weapons.
You all accidentally put Mig 19 when you said Mig 21. Great vid btw!
China not selling
No one will buy 😂😂😂,mr wang?
No one want china made,😂😂😂😂no quality.mr.xi?
Quality, Quality, Quality... Need we speculate?
Argentina and its recent F16 purchase is a perfect example of this game.
I can think of two reasons. One, American Aircraft has a proven track record in combat. Two, China might quickly become unreliable in terms of providing spare parts in the event of a conflict with the U.S., or even with just Taiwan.
Bahahaha, taking China at it's word.
When did you become so gullible?
Chinese have supersonic missiles USA still not
Bro are u living in the cold war
Need math genius to build Hypersonic missiles...Rusia has
The most important thing about a modern fighter jet is the capability and reliability of its avionics equipment. However, the performance of Chinese fighter jets in this regard is obviously not ideal. Even China’s allies have given negative comments after using Chinese fighter jets.
So, the Chinese have a few look a like fighters in their inventory. One looks like the French Mirage and the other looks like a variant of the old U.S. F-106. But in spite of their efforts, Chinese jets could not stand up to other Fighters of the world, including their precious J-20.
Chinese don't have airplane. There are models，Love from China🎉
@timedust1 China no Make junk11
J-20 Messy Dragon
J-10 Vomit Dragon
JF-17-Junk fighter 17
China has generally restricted the export of their most modern J-20 fighter, making it a limited option for potential buyers
Not having own engine is a trouble fot Saab Gripen with a american GE.
Export to five countries outside Sweden with one not a sale but lease.
我很欣慰，因为绝大部分的评论都和你们所在国家的媒体保持一致，你们确实也如它们所希望的那样看待今天的中国，很好，保持下去！三年不飞，一飞冲天，三年不鸣，一鸣惊人。
Let the americans think what they want. Russia is showing that NATO weaponry isn't all it's cracked up to be. I'm sure their aircraft will fare as well as their Abrams and Bradley.
This is how the West rated Japan in the 1930's - and then look what happened.
Maybe these countries thought, why buy these fighter jets just to lose a fight?
Boy to Xi: Look an F35.
Xi ordering Superfighterjet from Temu: We have F35 at home.
The famous soviet aircraft designer once said:"An ugly plane will not fly".Typolev.
Its the same reason why no one wants to buy chinese cars or motorcycles or anything for that matter .. remember u buy Chinese you buy twice..
China's customer base are the 'who's who' of Human Rights Champions.
Now, can I interest you in a beach front property in Phoenix AZ?
I buy Juicer cup phillip brand made in CHINA..upon using on the same day of delivery after charging for 4hrs as directive on the procedure is failed to work..how much more the jet fighter to work right..i buy many more made in China almost all are failure
I thought it was because all the controls and manuals were written in Chinese so no one knew how to fly or repair them. But that does make them safer for pilots. You can't start the engines.
Also china doesn’t participate in red flag exercise what are they scared of?
Within Pakistan, which operates Chinese and western jets.. the AF generally prefers the latter. But the problem is countries like the US don't want Pakistan to use those jets to shoot down Indian jets. Thats where Chinese jets come in because the PRC doesn't care. But whenever possible, Pakistan will try to insist on western avionics in Chinese jets
PLA can steal plans, but jet engines also need precision alloys. That is what they can't copy. It took them 6 years to copy ball point pens.
No warranty is my guess. Or maybe the quality control is dubious
Well the JF-17 definitely proved combat readiness. And everyone in the world was trashing it.
Does situational awareness on a plane just mean a larger range in sensor and or radar?
its capabilities to detect subjects as accurately and fast as possible
Situation awareness is more a pilot thing.
My opinion on international weapons system sales, or anything really, means less than nothing!
Not just that, they also do not want to face the pressure from the us.
The J20 is a crapy Chinese knockoff. It’s a generation 4.5 at best. Not a 5th generation. The fact that it isn’t a true stealth keeps it from being a 5 generation. It’s as stealthy as a F18 super Hornet. Not stealthy at all.
Wow! The Chengdu J-20 can perform a vertical inside loop (loop de loop)… that was accomplished back in 1913
Who will perform maintenance on Chinese jets?
Probably the main issue is their diplomatic behaviour with different countries and the fact that the US, as a superpower, is maintaining its position, not allowing a country like China to emerge as a significant rival, similar to Russia. Furthermore, their approach of spreading efforts across multiple fronts without specializing in any particular one, coupled with the use of low-quality materials, leads to the production of inferior equipment and products for sale. Therefore, leading to a questionable reputation of their products among the global military aircraft industry.
Why would China want anything from Russia when Russia's losing a war to a tiny country