BEST FIRST WH3 Campaign Guide! - Miao Ying Total Warhammer 3 (Immortal Empires - NOOB EXPLAINED)!
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You make great content and I especially appreciate your explanations. One suggestion is to break up your videos into smaller parts (15-20 min each) so you don't have to rush your speech and how you like to control the interface. I'm from US so I miss some things you say and have to replay those parts. Great job and keep them coming. I'm a long time subscriber.
Appreciate the comment and feedback - will take that on board and always looking to improve so cheers for pinpointing. This is the longest vid I intend to make for a while and will be back to 15-20 mins after this... this was a slog haha
@@ElvenPlotArmour try your editing a little better. You cut your own explanations mid-word sometimes.
If it should become necessary, try a voice over after the video is already cut.
@@ElvenPlotArmourlove your videos man!
Just started WH3, been looking for guides everwhere. This is the best explained start ever. U got a new sub
Much appreciated. Hope the channel is a useful tool. Recommend my battlefield, mechanics, formations and diplomacy guides and you should be a conqueror in no time. Good luck and the Discord is free and filled with helpful champions if that's of interest.
@@ElvenPlotArmour Thanks alot, will check those out :)
I'm playing Zhao Ming and I've already gone through many campaigns (the last one with Grombrindal with your guide). So even though this video is not specifically for me, I come to comment and like for your dedication and help you provide.
Gratitude. It's always a short term hit to the channel to not cater to the "in thing" like new SOC content, but player count is rising and this is the best contribution I felt I could make. Stoked to have supporters like yourself, so cheers for your patience. Means a lot
Juat got the game last week and honestly i love cathay what i dont love is realizing the small mistakes or things i didnt do after watching videos like this
It's all a process mate. The beauty of these games is everyone has their own journey fighting their way though and getting a bit wiser and better each time.
Discord is free to join if you need any advice. Plenty of nice vets and new players alike there.
Great beginners guide. I was thinking to add, or even challenge some advices at the beginning of video, but considering all aspects, it would just cause unnecessary confusion. Great job as it is.
I try to build up from basic fundamentals, up to more basics to establish a framework - exceptions to those broader rules can stand out as exceptions from there. I think you can see my teaching style hinges from this and not doing 15 minutes on the difficulty settings. I go on the basis of respecting the viewer's intelligence to develop their own framework from the basics - helping find the floor and avoid feeling lost is the #1 objective. Still any advice or big corrections, always send them through! Cheers
You didn't mention that captives can also increase replenishment after the battle depending on the faction you are fighting early game when you fight other Cathays it's definitely worth running down units.
This is a good point. Always a battle decide which detail is "too much" for a first guide, but replenishment is pretty important!
Great content! Can't wait to see the Cathay formations video!!
Coming sooner than you think!
Personally I prefer the longer videos you put out! It’s great to listen to whilst you play too😁
It's a lot of work so appreciated greatly! 😂
IMO you’re actually the best WH3 content creator! The other wh3 TH-camrs are all great too, but your videos are the most comprehensive. Keep up the awesome work!
Appreciate you taking the time to comment mate. A lot of work goes in so it's great you get something out of it. Cheers!
@@ElvenPlotArmour your welcome mate, and your effort is definitely noticed and appreciated.
I'm having a blast as Miao Ying, but it got even better when I bought the DLC for the new Jade Custodians and it unlocked a whole bunch of new troops mid-campaign. Unfortunately I got all these fancy new troops around turn 280 lol.
Ok so basically play to the lords strengths. Make wise diplomacy agreements with most good aligned factions. And ensure that harmony is maintained throughout provinces. Thanks for the tips!!
I wish I'd read this comment first 😂 cheers for watching mate and good luck!
Ok so also I just need to get better at combat hahaha. I think I just struggle with dealing with counter attacks. This video helped a lot!
Great guide. Thank you.
Cheers
I haven't really tried Cathay. I find their maps absolutely gorgeous, but I wonder about the annoyance of the YY system. Maybe time to try again. Much appreciated that you've done this.
Absolutely a must try faction if lean more to order factions. The YY system is honestly a layer of benefit rather than a dire necessity. Just keep alternating your buildings to stay in harmony and on the battlefield just filed balanced armies and the formation will naturally gain battle harmony.
The beauty of Cathay is this additional complexity allows you to manipulate Yin/Yang province bonuses to fasttrack recruitment or construction while escourting a Yang unit with a Yin unit to bolster their stats. Easy to learn, long to master *chef's kiss*
so good. In my games with Miao however the wall falls way quicker than in this game, forcing me to be much more active on the northern front early on
In the upcoming video with Maio I'll demonstrate a siege defence but it's pretty similar to the one done here. If you can beat Vilitch's first army and delay Zhatan the wall should hold, but you may have to react. Difficulty may result in differences, but focusing on lowering the upkeep and even just a lord with some peasants will help the Bastions win the day.
Love your content so much. Please keep it up. 👌👏
Thanks man
Great Video!
Thanks mate, hope it helps.
Great vid! How come you never bother with the bottom skill tree on Lords after Route Marcher? Is the casualty replenishment / control / recruit rank / etc etc not worth enough down there?
Good question. Particularly on legendary you need everything to perform and be efficient for many situations. You lord and their army can only be empowered by the lord's skill line. Casualty replenishment is nowhere near as critical in WH3 thanks to settlements being so close, plus heroes can do this. Recruitment? You should recruit rarely for quality units or are hiring cheap units in a crisis. I don't value recruit reduction as a passive (though as an activated ability timed well it can be good) and recruitment, control and corruption are easily dealt with using followers/ancillaries.
@@ElvenPlotArmour Awesome response appreciate the insight!
Hi, been watching your videos for a little over a year now, (found your channel by looking up sisters of twilight guide) How often do you fight battles that are defeats according to auto-resolve? How do you weigh you can win or not? Do you seek them out or generally avoid them? There are times where I win with some of the formations you've recommend in the past, but other times I get overwhelmed. And for clarification, I'm asking for an army that isn't a shitstack.
Hey appreciate the long support. Battles that are defeats are often not worth fighting for field battles if you can't wipe out a singe unit.... as always, let's answer the "Why fight manually?". The auto resolve will often semi-damage all units but not kill any (thus they replenish those numbers in the settlement they just took).
If your garrison has a unit of cavalry, keep that cavalry away from the action and if they have any artillery WIPE IT OUT. This is the single most potent thing you can do (enforce turns besieging so they don't just snowball through your provinces). If you think you can completely kill a hero? Wipe out their cavalry/flying units? .... So
Question 1) can I wipe out anything that will make the next battle "more possible".
Question 2) is it defence with towers? If so take a choke point and hammer their numbers with T3 or T4 towers. Even a pathetic garrison with towers will do some solid damage. Sometimes you will lose a couple of small settlements, the idea to ensure they take loses so your relief army (often of emergency quick units) can beat the enemy by then.
Question 3) can you win it? Counting up the unit cards is a simple way of adding it up. In WH3 the autoresolve is so favorable to the player it's often better to auto (unlike WH2), but abilities and spells aren't factored in. If you can control the battlefield this can make the difference. Add up the unit cards then see "can I handle this?" Do they have armour? Do you have AP? Can my melee hero out duel their lord? Can I use "Plague of Rust" to lower their AP and use guns to down their hero? However, if it's a 4 vs 20 and they don't have any artillery, nor you any tools to win, save your time. I hope that maybe helped 😂
@@ElvenPlotArmour Yes it did! In regards to question 3, it's usually a "valiant defeat" that leads to: can I win it? > I don't know? > Try the battle. Because at worst, I lose. Sometimes I'll rematch to try again because I feel like I can actually win after the initial try. When I think about it more, it comes down to not knowing how a particular unit actually plays outside of its card classification. I get that each unit falls into a category, but it's not until I see the type of mayhem they can cause on the battlefield that I realize I should handle it differently. Thanks again.
I just finished my first campaign ever after about four unsuccessful starts. This guide and your guide about unit categories were both excellent in helping. I have a question: As someone who is brand new, how can I gather information in-game about my starting position, strong enemies, potential allies, etc? So that I can try to plan a successful campaign myself, rather than having to follow guides every time.
Check the factions surrounding you at the start of any campaign , check for “aversions” ones with high aversions are likely never going to be your friend and will be a threat , one’s that are naturally positive towards you are potential allies , etc
Stoked to help you find your feet. Welcome to the community. I have a free Discord full of helpful folk of all skill levels who can point you to some good campaigns. I have a video covering the first 10 campaigns you should play coming out in a couple of weeks but that's not much use for now 😂
Don't be shy learning from guides. I still learn all the time in this massive game. Feel free to join and ask, but otherwise Gor-rok (lizardmen) is another good faction to learn with. Alternatively, mastering a race by playing its other lords is another way to see you level up your game. If you enjoy Cathay, even just the first 50 turns with Ming could do wonders!
does Gelt's little trip to cathay now change anything important about this guide, or is it still fairly safe?
Gelt being relocated is a net positive to Cathay. Make an alliance and gain access to Empire units!
Don't just "dismiss" your Lords anymore. There was an update, that lets you "respect" a Lord. That option will "wound" said Lord, which gets rid of them, but you can use that same Lord again later. (with all already acquired levels)
Disbanding a Hero without immortality (lvl20) will kill them permanently.
No disbanding the lord will put them back in your lord pool, but you are right respecing the lord will be better since you can level them up however they are needed for each situation.
@MichaelJones05 I edited the Lord out there, thaks for the reminder. The big difference between disband and repec is the return time. Disband 5 turns - respec 3 turns
Ah ok, now I get what you mean. This is a good strategy.... 3 turns feels like an oversight haha
Do you have any advice for taking on Grimgor as Cathay? I've tried 2 cannons and 4 crane gunners but nothing seems to help :/
4 Crane Gunners is too many. Try just 2 Crane Gunners with an Ironhail Gunner in between them (spaced enough so they don't get tangled too quickly). Have 3 J Jade warriors and characters to catch the frontline and a couple more round the flanks, protecting your crossbows. 1-2 cannons is a good choice, you don't need more. If you have Yin magic, overcast and slow them on approach. Once engaged, use your Heavens Thunderbolt or Comet on big blobs.
If they have heavy armour, Metal spell Plague of Rust drops the armour, allowing you to deal meaningful damage. Next video is Cathay Formations so please consider subbing and joining us then!
did they nerf how far you can move in campaign when go to attack settlements cause i cant move as far as you show in video or is this by using the hero campaign movement range skill tree aswell
The priority should always be to put 1pt in route marcher and to increase campaign movement with your Magistrate where possible. Cathay do have movement buffing followers to equip in the character screen but those aren't needed here. Hit me up on Discord if you're still having trouble!
love your videos elvenplotarmor!!!
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How do you get 4 recruitment slots each turn ? Only get 3 with recruitment commandment on . Thanks in advance
2 Standard
+1 Provincial Edict (select the one which gives +1 Recruit)
+1 Yang Balance (build the yang market last turn to make the province Yang Aligned)
Sounds like you either didn't select the right provincial bonus or constructed a Yin building (Yin alignment provides other bonuses)
Ah gotcha cheers bud .
lol you could make a Master Degree on Warhammer 3 alone. Doctorate if you include the other 2 games lol.
I wish video games improved my uni grades haha
Love all your content mate, keep it up! Also I would die for a Yuan Bo livestream. Cheers!
You can drag out units on walls until they are just 1 soldier thick. This way you can possibly put 1 infantry unit in 2 control zones for Towers
First up, cheers for your comments mate. Next, REALLY? Perhaps it's been under my nose for a while but stretching units on walls I thought was gone in WH3 since launch?
@ElvenPlotArmour jupp, it works. Especially in the Gate siege you demonstrated. I've fought that one many times.
Do you have a Discord for this sort of stuff?
Sure do, free for anyone to join. Excellent and open minded players of all experience there.
Link in the description, welcome to all!
Hmm, the constant invasions, the pain of the ying yang balance. I dont agree. Maybe her brother, but you still have the balance issue
Fair take. This campaign was also selected for its ability to demonstrate many fundamentals, but that doesn't mean it's definitely the best. Which campaigns would you recommend? Can be more than 1 :)
@@ElvenPlotArmour Tyrion was pretty easy. Gelt was pretty easy. Queen ( I'd say ikit, but his start position might be rough.) Factions with some unique mechanics, but your not on a knife edge right from the start, or who's own mechanics don't screw you over
@@LandofMert76What faction would you recommend for new players that only have WH3 and no DLC? No Tyrion (though I concur with DLC his is probably the best campaign for new players)
@@1001airstrikes for realm of chaos? Just Warhammer 3? Nkari is fun. Tips your toes in all the ponds. That's a tough one.
@@LandofMert76Not necessarily just realm of chaos, considering you can play Immortal Empires without any DLC. I personally haven't played Nakari, so I can't really comment on how new-player-friendly they are.
Dude, I literally suck in battles. Show me campaign battles and how to not suck. “I’m doing this and this is why”… etc
Ultimate Battle Instructional: th-cam.com/video/pCHwQwtqPco/w-d-xo.html
Cathay Tierlist of Units: th-cam.com/video/jCrls-YnToQ/w-d-xo.html
In-depth Mechanics (not crucial but will explain the "rule"): th-cam.com/video/N-0vM3IAe0A/w-d-xo.html
@@ElvenPlotArmour I watched it. I still suck. 😭🤣
@@ElvenPlotArmour Seriously though, love your content. Would love to see another campaign front you.
@@Andrew-yw8vzHahaha, it'll happen for sure. I have pretty heavy time constraints so I tend to stick with videos over streams as the do better but with new content dropping I'll likely get one in. Appreciate the support and hang in there mate! Join our discord (in description) if you'd like a cool place to bounce ideas.
47:59 this isn't true. Changing your building Yin/Yang alignment doesn't lower the building Tier.
Perhaps it's updated again, but the version I played when filming this, changing alignment sent the building back to T1, but you don't lose a turn demolishing
@@ElvenPlotArmour in the Video your building was already Tier 1. It does not get reset to 1 with every side grade. It stays the same Tier
I thought the exact same thing but all it is is that when you have a level one with the option to upgrade to level 2 the UI appears like you will be downgrading if you covert
Hi fans from Thailand here always love your content but your thumbnail needs some rebranding man it needs to be simple and stage forward, for example like BSJ Dota2 or game Leap anyways love your video Kislev next, please
Appreciate the feedback, it's certainly an area that could use work. Feel free to link through some recommendations or my discord has a feedback section. Regardless, cheers mate!
As a Cathay Player myself, I only have a complaint: never ever give another mayor Cathay faction any settlements.
You want them weak. Otherwise, they're almost impossible to Confederate
Edit: Try to fight Snikch without Miao Ying. His defeat trait is horrible for your dragon Lords.
Edit2: "Lore of Yin" is better then "Lore od Yang"
I found this to be absolute necessity in earlier patches but I've found since SoC released it's now far easier to get confederations, albiet in the mid-late game. There was a time where you had to get the Dragon Lords down to 1 settlement to "maybe" get that Confed, now I feel it's less stressful. Still, your point is absolutely right if wanting to rush that confed and could well be the best route for an advanced player, but having the AI cover a front until a late game confed (I feel) is a good step for a new player.
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