@Kingsman63 yeah and now I got no idea what to do aft that throw because if the opponent goes for any sort of wake up kick they gg hit first before kings back turn 3.
@@Itsoeasyafterallyes but in Tekken 6 it was the Same. Seems like u didn’t Even Play Tekken 6😇than they Decided to nerf it😢im a King Main since Tekken 5 i Knew everything about him 😉
AK’s chain throw starters are still faster though, king still needs to go through full crouchdash animation to initiate his chainthrows, while AK could do it at any point during animation
Bro I thought they just removed the wavu wavu, but with this video... I'm just happy right now. The only sad part is Armor King, his return is uncertain
King все равно ТОП 5 сильных и одновременно ТОП 5 дешевых персонажей. Именно по этому я безумно уважаю Армор Кинга и смотрю с презрением на бесплатные победы Кинга в Т8. в Т7 Кинг был гораздо лучше
i don't see why ppl think armor king wont come in because king got some of his stuff. That argument assumes armor king will come in exactly the same as his t7 variant.. but if u look at most tekkens.. innovation for the kings happened on armor king first.. then king got some of the moves that made sense. Armor king will get new stuff in t8 to compensate. Its not gonna be the same t7 armor king so who cares what king gets from him.
I would usually go for shoulder tackle to kill the back roll after B3 or F3, 1+2 oki or something else! But I'm loving the DB1+2,1 Muscle Armor change 😮
What impact does the wave dash have on King's attack? Apart from the mind games and the fact that now the grab 2+3 will be better, does anyone see another use? Kazuya and Jin have hell sweep and electric, what can King do?
@@madarawilkilu But it seems to be as fast as AKs. I watched frame by frame and is seems in his WD, the multi throw starter came very quickly like AKs.
muscle buster is genuinely a self harm throw now. Get up kicks beat EVERYTHING asides from a just frame dickjab. It's the same deal with f3 and b3, but at least with those you can side step to evade them. Can't do that after muscle buster. Those oki nerfs are honestly ridiculous, King is now on the defensive after landing them. Time to break out figure four I think
If they could include Kuma and Panda as two separate characters, I'm sure they'll still include AK despite similarities. (Please agree with me I'm losing hope for our armor boi with each passing day)
Hate hate hate the changes to Muscle Buster and F3. Limiting expression by making these moves completely undesirable to lose doesn't help the game. FF n 2, Heat Smash and his damage were the issue and these issues have been barely addressed. Seems like he lost a lot of his identity with little to show for it
welp...with kings oki options gutted... it just gives the other char's more opportunity to beat him with better buttons and oki... This may really be pretty bad for king when steam rolling offense is the name of the game...
People crying about kings nerf are stupid tracking throws imo shouldn’t be in the game in the first place. The nerfs aren’t that bad however the buffs to his movement is crazy
@@boxingstar7749 no i agree with him, throws game has been too great in this game. IMO, the only unnecessary nerfs is the oki nerf from f3, b3, and muscle buster.
Want a grab that is -6 and lefts you backturned? King has those. No one unsatisifed with tracking throws, +7 ffn2 getting nerfed. But he got absolutely nothing for having a single -10 high power crush and it's universal nerf. F3 is not worth for going with it's -8 mid on block with negative oki ass. His identity changed and that's big problem.
I dont know what you guys are talking about. I'm above an average rank and damn near every one of my grab attempts get broken out of. Grabs have not beed great.
Omg b3 muscle buster and ddt lose their oki like ffs
Sorry forget to explain muscle buster
Muscle Buster after landing is minus 6
@Kingsman63 yeah and now I got no idea what to do aft that throw because if the opponent goes for any sort of wake up kick they gg hit first before kings back turn 3.
I've been doing People's Elbow, haven't done enough testing though
@@xavierweewee7101 only way to beat getup kicks there is a justframe dick jab. Really awful. Just don't use muscle buster anymore
I feel like I'm the one in the mixup after the muscle buster now.
that king wavedash is fucking cursed
welp i guess we're wave dash players now lmao
We're King Mishima's 😂
It was in Tekken 6 the Same back in the days 😂
@@IF35no king wavedash had always been difficult until now , it was never easy before
@@Itsoeasyafterallyes but in Tekken 6 it was the Same. Seems like u didn’t Even Play Tekken 6😇than they Decided to nerf it😢im a King Main since Tekken 5 i Knew everything about him 😉
@@IF35 hmm I did play t6, been playing tekken since t3..
Namco: King can do wave dash
Armor King: You've WHAAAT!!!!
Need drak upper 🤭
AK’s chain throw starters are still faster though, king still needs to go through full crouchdash animation to initiate his chainthrows, while AK could do it at any point during animation
Now he just needs to arrive... I miss ak
@@NegoO007 me too 😞
does not duck highs tho. So AK still better.
An actual wave dash for tracking throws....deal.
Doesnt our wavedash realign us with the opponent? If so, we kinda still have tracking command grabs lmao.
His wave dash is also nerfed by not making you go on a crouch state from what I've read.
So, now his CD~multithrow starter which are still homing are coming out as fast as AK's. This is be the biggest buff king ever recieved in Tekken.
They removed the throws tracking, but give him a wavywavu 🤣
Bro I thought they just removed the wavu wavu, but with this video... I'm just happy right now. The only sad part is Armor King, his return is uncertain
LMFAO. Armor King brought in the most money in TK7 he going to be in 8. he basically King but cooler
He'll show up at some point.
AK wavu can duck highs and end in Dark Upper.
As an Armor King player this changes nothing for me, but something about the grabs no longer tracking stings a bit for some reason.
I really missing Armor King brother hope he will come with new stuff we don't wana see king with armor King style
Maybe they nerfed our King but they can't nerf our spirit.
Main King Forever
Yeh forever ❣️
King все равно ТОП 5 сильных и одновременно ТОП 5 дешевых персонажей. Именно по этому я безумно уважаю Армор Кинга и смотрю с презрением на бесплатные победы Кинга в Т8. в Т7 Кинг был гораздо лучше
King mishima, he needs to throw his Daddyjaguar into a vulcan.
king wavedashing is terrifying
i don't see why ppl think armor king wont come in because king got some of his stuff. That argument assumes armor king will come in exactly the same as his t7 variant.. but if u look at most tekkens.. innovation for the kings happened on armor king first.. then king got some of the moves that made sense.
Armor king will get new stuff in t8 to compensate. Its not gonna be the same t7 armor king so who cares what king gets from him.
He will come with new stuff inshaAllah ❤️
Saw a clip that running gs is now incredibly hard to do
No its easy
nice video, i wonder what they will do to my armor king now if they even release him in s2 😪
AK's wavu will duck highs, plus Dark Upper.
since they nerfed oki for b3,1+2 and f3,1+2, does that mean no more f2+3 setup if they back stand?
Legend, thanks for the update
Any time!
His DB 4 dropkick, backturn d 4, and JS 4 can’t be low parried
What is backturn d 4 and js 4? (i am new)
@@GroundPower down-back 4, backturn down 4, jaguar sprint 4, king has 3 ways to do that same dropkick move
@@happybubbley5087 oh, thx
@@GroundPower they’re like downback 4 for king. It’s a low hitting drop kick.
Db3 enter crouching in 5f, so it ducks jab from -4f
Tracking throws should've been left for king Marduk and Armor king only.
Yes i also think if they don't atleast they make giantswing tracking
I would usually go for shoulder tackle to kill the back roll after B3 or F3, 1+2 oki or something else! But I'm loving the DB1+2,1 Muscle Armor change 😮
What impact does the wave dash have on King's attack? Apart from the mind games and the fact that now the grab 2+3 will be better, does anyone see another use? Kazuya and Jin have hell sweep and electric, what can King do?
Fast approaching Cd4, ws4, and ffn2
And f1+2 out of wavedash for AK style lariat
And the throws
Is Crouch dash throw more faster now? Cause that maybe a big buff
Same but you can do ws move fast after double Forward
Still the same
@@madarawilkilu But it seems to be as fast as AKs. I watched frame by frame and is seems in his WD, the multi throw starter came very quickly like AKs.
Regular throws and a few of his other command throws still track
The New Cat
BUMCO: We are not going to add AK but we will make King feel like AK.
Me: Close enough, welcome back Armor King
The wavedash has removed "crouch status". So will you get hit with highs now?
Yes
muscle buster is genuinely a self harm throw now. Get up kicks beat EVERYTHING asides from a just frame dickjab. It's the same deal with f3 and b3, but at least with those you can side step to evade them. Can't do that after muscle buster. Those oki nerfs are honestly ridiculous, King is now on the defensive after landing them. Time to break out figure four I think
If they could include Kuma and Panda as two separate characters, I'm sure they'll still include AK despite similarities. (Please agree with me I'm losing hope for our armor boi with each passing day)
All wavedash in game, mishima, hwoarang, etc, lost crouch status? If answer is no, king s wavedash is not a good movement
No more tracking throws on anything besides the chain grabs and universal ones.
thx for the update information
I used to think why is the wavedash AK easy and the King so hard
Hate hate hate the changes to Muscle Buster and F3. Limiting expression by making these moves completely undesirable to lose doesn't help the game.
FF n 2, Heat Smash and his damage were the issue and these issues have been barely addressed. Seems like he lost a lot of his identity with little to show for it
I've seen a lot of people saying he is starting to play like AK and I agree
Will he be getting the dark upper?
Yeh 😂
Does the jaguar sprint 1, d 2+3, d 3+4 still guaranteed??
Yes
@@Kingsman63 thanks man, i see the wavu2 as an absolute buff to us king's main. Keep doing a great job
welp...with kings oki options gutted... it just gives the other char's more opportunity to beat him with better buttons and oki... This may really be pretty bad for king when steam rolling offense is the name of the game...
reworked armor king??
Just leave my boi alone now 😂 kiiing
but why ?
they keep nerfing king 😪
yeah its crazy to me. I mean I still get beat up crazy from my opponents.
@@zart3kyou losing might just be you being worse than your opponents, not your character getting "nerfed"
i wish i could wave dash
AK keeps changing his Netflix password, only to have it king steal it back from him. Someone call the police on this man before he strikes again.
King mishima
People crying about kings nerf are stupid tracking throws imo shouldn’t be in the game in the first place. The nerfs aren’t that bad however the buffs to his movement is crazy
Spoken like someone with 0 idea how king's played
@@boxingstar7749 no i agree with him, throws game has been too great in this game. IMO, the only unnecessary nerfs is the oki nerf from f3, b3, and muscle buster.
Want a grab that is -6 and lefts you backturned? King has those. No one unsatisifed with tracking throws, +7 ffn2 getting nerfed. But he got absolutely nothing for having a single -10 high power crush and it's universal nerf. F3 is not worth for going with it's -8 mid on block with negative oki ass.
His identity changed and that's big problem.
@@ametozukumazu6073 yeah, that's why the oki nerf is unnecessary, especially in muscle buster
I dont know what you guys are talking about. I'm above an average rank and damn near every one of my grab attempts get broken out of. Grabs have not beed great.
does running sw still track
Yeh nice
@@Kingsman63 i tried it doesnt track
F*ck this game
ah yes just what we needed, easier execution
King wavedashing is terrifying
does not duck highs, so 112 away