In the US, Neurosurgical residency (7 years) is done directly after the primary medical degree (MD in US and MBBS in India). In India, most neurosurgery residency programs are after 3 years of general surgery residency (that is another 3 years of senior residency in neurosurgery after finishing general surgery residency). There are direct programs in India too. Regards, Dr Love Patel (Neurosurgeon)
This was fabbbbbbb!!!! Wish it was longer, want a tv series on Monali’s life.. episode 1 , 2 , 3 and so on… it was that fascinating to hear her! She can captivate you with her storytelling!! Trump ko nahi samajh aayega was hilarious!! Very very well done guys!! ❤️❤️👏👏
Thank you Monali maam. It was very inspiring. Due to family reasons my sister could not complete her pg right after mbbs but now that she has settled she wants to do it but thinks that she is now late for doing pg. I will send it to her and hope that it will give her little confidence boost and perspective.
It’s never too late to do something you love to do or have dreamed about doing. Like my husband told me - ‘it’s not a race!’ It’s challenging for sure after a break but doable with hard work, lot of support from loved ones and good luck. I would recommend not comparing your life’s journey with anyone. Take inspiration and guidance from people, sure, but comparisons only lead to disappointment and dissatisfaction in my experience. Please pass on my best wishes to your sister.
Cutting is simply the most precious thing to consider when choosing a surgery residency in India. It holds more value when choosing an Mch programme. I finished MS general surgery from an institute with poor cutting but managed to get into an Mch Uro programme with good cutting and I can simply see myself grow everyday here. Though the term “cutting” may sound crude, cutting is everything. The moment you finish residency your cutting will stop until you find a suitable job. You can read all you want, do research, become “well rounded” even after finishing residency, but when considering a residency programme in India, dont choose one where you become MRCS - Master of Retracting, Cutting suture and Skin suturing
Absolutely agree. What she meant however was that cutting is less important then other things like managing wards and post op complications, observing seniors do their work, studying, research and thesis and all the other things that are part of protocols and life as a surgeon in general. But only for first 3 years which is half the residency duration in most countries. After that it becomes very important if not most important. Also i believe operating a patient with just 1 or 2 years of residency is just plain wrong. We are dealing with humans. Ot time is of huge importance especially in orthopaedics where an infection can ruin everything for the poor patient
Amazing conversation between both the doctors doctor Naman is an amazing personality he is multi talented doctor and he gives his 💯 percent to his work
Naman you are the best podcast interviewer I have ever seen or heard!! Very calm composed, great listener, great questions and to keep the flow of podcast engaging!! Awesome awesome work!
Thank you guys for the love! This one is for all the medicos and non medicos out there looking to have a perspective on life of a resident in india and USA
Cutting is an important aspect of any surgical branch. The problem which I feel is if I have done a surgery myself I am very much motivated to see the patient postoperatively, follow him/her for results, manage any complication if present and also I’ll do extensive research if I’m getting to do any surgery by myself because I want to perform well. I fail to do that if somebody else is performing surgery. That’s why I feel cutting is very important. What’s a boat without ocean. What’s a surgeon without surgery.
True. Absolutely agree. Very well said. What she meant was that its less important for the FIRST THREE YEARS of training when compared with other aspects of training. After that it becomes the most important aspect of training.
@@DelliDocs Even in starting 3 years it’s important. But ya I do agree that it’s not THE MOST important thing to consider. It’s better to go somewhere you get better opportunities and better mentors.
I think she means that looking only for cutting in formative years is a big no no ! At my stage also, If given an option between performing unsupervised surgeries and assisting surgeries performed by experts, i will chose later rather than the former any day of the year !
Unless we see good work, its difficult to perform. Same for surgery, better learn 1st n then start doing under supervision. We as surgeon are eager to perform independent surgery n opportunities dont come so easily in initial years. But with patience, thses things do fall in place.
Hello, thank you for the question. We have asked the same question to another doctor from germany. Short answer is YES. Long answer is not so straight forward. Please stay tuned for next podcast to find out
Sir is aiims good for surgery or should i consider other peripheral state colleges for surgery? And sir how to apply for residency in Germany can you elaborate on that
Please dont misguide surgical hands on is very important but most proffesors dont allow you , if somebody gets good hands on in pg years he is ahead of co sugeons but since reality is this that 90 percent of indian residency dont give enough hands on so most of surgeons spend 3 more years in senior residency to learn basic skills and refine their procedures.
Absolutely sir! Both your statements are correct. Surgical hands on is important and professors dont allow in first 3 years. There is a reason professors dont allow it. One, we are talking about real patients getting operated by trainees who are in 1st or 2nd years. Second surgical residencies is 6 years in all countries around the world. First 3 years is learning and academics with basic procedures under supervision. Next three years (senior residency of india) requires surgical hands on. Which we believe is the right way to learn surgery. But every one has their own opinion and we encourage healthy discussions
Short answer : YES. Long answer is not so straightforward. We asked the same question to our next guest who is a ctvs surgeon in germany. Stay tuned for next podcast about germany
Cutting kyu chahiye rank leke toh ot mei research paper khol na hai google sei🤡🤡🤡...surgeons telling focus on research and academics🤡🤡....no doubt why doctors these days are so incompetant😐
@@MonaliMohan first know how the indian education system is....its not a american computer system...if pgts are not given hands on it is a disaster you guys are preaching...nobody going to teach you in sr ship...then what you will ask ur assistance whats the next step as a sr🤡🤡...getting cold ots are very hard these days for pgts....max they operate on emergency case
@@MonaliMohan pgts are already lacking....i never said unsupervised butchering of a patient...but if you first day saw a ot then next day atleast give the incision on skin...then next day ligate the vessel...next day operate on visceral organ...atleast a case you must have operated 3 thrice without significant assistance or be ready to face darkness in sr
@@MonaliMohan in srship there is nobody to teach you....if you cant perform infront of ur consultant the amount of shame you will face have no bounds....in many states the lack of hands on cold cases for pgts is just a horror....most dont even performed a full cholecystectomy without significant assistance....and beleive me they regret it ...they regret it so much...its not my word but most sr of my state...its not america....indian education system is very competitive🙏
Check out Dr Monali's journey from MAMC Delhi to Mayo Clinic in USA. She got in surgical residency in USA which is a dream for a lot of aspirants
thanku sir this video 🙏.you give good insight about doctors life .
In the US, Neurosurgical residency (7 years) is done directly after the primary medical degree (MD in US and MBBS in India). In India, most neurosurgery residency programs are after 3 years of general surgery residency (that is another 3 years of senior residency in neurosurgery after finishing general surgery residency). There are direct programs in India too.
Regards,
Dr Love Patel (Neurosurgeon)
Yes, absolutely. Thank you for commenting on it 👍
So knowledgeable and amazing podcast ❤ thank you so much for the clarification of the entire journey
This was fabbbbbbb!!!!
Wish it was longer, want a tv series on Monali’s life.. episode 1 , 2 , 3 and so on… it was that fascinating to hear her! She can captivate you with her storytelling!!
Trump ko nahi samajh aayega was hilarious!!
Very very well done guys!! ❤️❤️👏👏
Awesome that you liked it. Episode 2 is coming sooner then you think 😃😃
Hahaha! Mahima, you’re too generous. 💜
Thank you Monali maam. It was very inspiring.
Due to family reasons my sister could not complete her pg right after mbbs but now that she has settled she wants to do it but thinks that she is now late for doing pg.
I will send it to her and hope that it will give her little confidence boost and perspective.
It’s never too late to do something you love to do or have dreamed about doing. Like my husband told me - ‘it’s not a race!’ It’s challenging for sure after a break but doable with hard work, lot of support from loved ones and good luck. I would recommend not comparing your life’s journey with anyone. Take inspiration and guidance from people, sure, but comparisons only lead to disappointment and dissatisfaction in my experience. Please pass on my best wishes to your sister.
@MonaliMohan Thank you so much for your sweet wishes maam.
I will definitely pass it to her. 😊🙏🙏
Incredible Journey Monali ! 😊 it’s the struggles which make us stronger !!
Cutting is simply the most precious thing to consider when choosing a surgery residency in India. It holds more value when choosing an Mch programme. I finished MS general surgery from an institute with poor cutting but managed to get into an Mch Uro programme with good cutting and I can simply see myself grow everyday here. Though the term “cutting” may sound crude, cutting is everything. The moment you finish residency your cutting will stop until you find a suitable job. You can read all you want, do research, become “well rounded” even after finishing residency, but when considering a residency programme in India, dont choose one where you become MRCS - Master of Retracting, Cutting suture and Skin suturing
Absolutely agree. What she meant however was that cutting is less important then other things like managing wards and post op complications, observing seniors do their work, studying, research and thesis and all the other things that are part of protocols and life as a surgeon in general. But only for first 3 years which is half the residency duration in most countries. After that it becomes very important if not most important. Also i believe operating a patient with just 1 or 2 years of residency is just plain wrong. We are dealing with humans. Ot time is of huge importance especially in orthopaedics where an infection can ruin everything for the poor patient
Amazing conversation between both the doctors doctor Naman is an amazing personality he is multi talented doctor and he gives his 💯 percent to his work
Thank you so much for the kind words ❤
Dr monali's journey is also very inspiring
Naman you are the best podcast interviewer I have ever seen or heard!! Very calm composed, great listener, great questions and to keep the flow of podcast engaging!! Awesome awesome work!
Wow! Thank you Mahima 😃😃.
Thank you guys for the love! This one is for all the medicos and non medicos out there looking to have a perspective on life of a resident in india and USA
N cutting also matters ….only cutting don’t matter ….”surgery is not only about cutting n suturing its all about decision making “…
Absolutely! Well said. I beleive she is talking about the first 3 years of training. After that cutting is probably the most important aspect
Cutting is an important aspect of any surgical branch. The problem which I feel is if I have done a surgery myself I am very much motivated to see the patient postoperatively, follow him/her for results, manage any complication if present and also I’ll do extensive research if I’m getting to do any surgery by myself because I want to perform well. I fail to do that if somebody else is performing surgery. That’s why I feel cutting is very important. What’s a boat without ocean. What’s a surgeon without surgery.
True. Absolutely agree. Very well said. What she meant was that its less important for the FIRST THREE YEARS of training when compared with other aspects of training. After that it becomes the most important aspect of training.
@@DelliDocs Even in starting 3 years it’s important. But ya I do agree that it’s not THE MOST important thing to consider. It’s better to go somewhere you get better opportunities and better mentors.
I think she means that looking only for cutting in formative years is a big no no ! At my stage also, If given an option between performing unsupervised surgeries and assisting surgeries performed by experts, i will chose later rather than the former any day of the year !
Unless we see good work, its difficult to perform.
Same for surgery, better learn 1st n then start doing under supervision.
We as surgeon are eager to perform independent surgery n opportunities dont come so easily in initial years.
But with patience, thses things do fall in place.
@@dr.dibyendu7764 well said doctor! Learning by seeing
Great work naman beta
Great job both of you !! 😊😊
Thank you ❤
Best one yet
Thank you. Please share with family and friends
Great conversation..
Thank you for listening
Awesome work 👏
Thanks ✌️
Amazing podcast
Thanks for listening
Thanks for listening
Great initiative
Great going Naman .keep it up 👍
sir when is the next podcast coming??
Great naman sir
Thank you plaban 😃
Excellent info great work Naman bhai
@@drManojorthotalks thanks bhai for the appreciation 😃
Good going Naman
Thank you bhaiya ❤
Excellent 👌 podcast ❤👌👌👌👏👏👏
Thank you ansh. Keep watching keep liking
make more such vidoes please
Amazing
Thank you! Cheers!
Hello naman sir, pls share your experience when you went to germany as well. Would love to know that as well. Thank youu
Great idea actually. We have already shot the episode on germany. Editing going on. Will be releasing soon
Great and honest interview. Very good interview skills as well!!
@@swatipandey1632 thanks swati. Means a lot 🙏
Nice episode ....Just had a doubt....Is PG from Germany valid in India ?
Hello, thank you for the question. We have asked the same question to another doctor from germany. Short answer is YES. Long answer is not so straight forward. Please stay tuned for next podcast to find out
Awesome
Sir is aiims good for surgery or should i consider other peripheral state colleges for surgery? And sir how to apply for residency in Germany can you elaborate on that
Aiims is great. And yes we have also made an episode on germany. Will be releasing soon
Nice video
Please dont misguide surgical hands on is very important but most proffesors dont allow you , if somebody gets good hands on in pg years he is ahead of co sugeons but since reality is this that 90 percent of indian residency dont give enough hands on so most of surgeons spend 3 more years in senior residency to learn basic skills and refine their procedures.
Absolutely sir! Both your statements are correct. Surgical hands on is important and professors dont allow in first 3 years. There is a reason professors dont allow it. One, we are talking about real patients getting operated by trainees who are in 1st or 2nd years. Second surgical residencies is 6 years in all countries around the world. First 3 years is learning and academics with basic procedures under supervision. Next three years (senior residency of india) requires surgical hands on. Which we believe is the right way to learn surgery. But every one has their own opinion and we encourage healthy discussions
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Nice
Can bams doctor give usmle exam ?
Sorry i dont have an answer to that. I will have to ask around. Please let us know if you find an answer to this question
Is pg done in Germany valid in India Bcoz my daughter is now in final year mbbs I want her to do pg in Germany
Short answer : YES. Long answer is not so straightforward. We asked the same question to our next guest who is a ctvs surgeon in germany. Stay tuned for next podcast about germany
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@@abhinavkhandelwal1225 thank you. Hope you enjoyed it
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Cutting kyu chahiye rank leke toh ot mei research paper khol na hai google sei🤡🤡🤡...surgeons telling focus on research and academics🤡🤡....no doubt why doctors these days are so incompetant😐
Excellent comment!
@@MonaliMohan thanks 🙏
@@MonaliMohan first know how the indian education system is....its not a american computer system...if pgts are not given hands on it is a disaster you guys are preaching...nobody going to teach you in sr ship...then what you will ask ur assistance whats the next step as a sr🤡🤡...getting cold ots are very hard these days for pgts....max they operate on emergency case
@@MonaliMohan pgts are already lacking....i never said unsupervised butchering of a patient...but if you first day saw a ot then next day atleast give the incision on skin...then next day ligate the vessel...next day operate on visceral organ...atleast a case you must have operated 3 thrice without significant assistance or be ready to face darkness in sr
@@MonaliMohan in srship there is nobody to teach you....if you cant perform infront of ur consultant the amount of shame you will face have no bounds....in many states the lack of hands on cold cases for pgts is just a horror....most dont even performed a full cholecystectomy without significant assistance....and beleive me they regret it ...they regret it so much...its not my word but most sr of my state...its not america....indian education system is very competitive🙏
She is the perfect example to learn what not to do to save your career . What a naive person she is , still doesn’t have a clue of what she is doing .