“to love a life that tries almost every moment to make you hate it and to still stare stare back at it and say yes, i love it. what’s scarier than an opponent who smiles while being beaten”
lol and the top religion of the day says life is a sin, we are all sinners - we don't belong here, if we make sure we kiss the right butt, he will be pleased and GIVE us an eternal life of ease & pleasure!
Yes, forced to make a decision on whether the person is telling you the truth or lies each time they interact with you. Wild goose chases, waste of energy
4:10 Every decision you’ve made is the best and only decisions you could of made at the time. With the information you had and the state of mind you were in.
Some of us have done evil things for the sake of hate. I could have made the right choice but consciously decided to commit violence to inflict pain. There was no reason or excuse. Thankfully there is forgiveness. I would not want to relive this life as i lived it before I found God.
@@fuhq5121 I don't know if my question is disrespectful or indelicate so I leave it to you to read it or not : Do you mind telling me more about your story ?
@@nana00037 not sure how to explain really. I was definitely self loathing and self destructive. It has always seemed to manifest in outward violence and substance abuse. Often fighting people I believed would be able to destroy me in a fight. Or would be willing to do anything, including killing, to win. If I knew I could win the fight I was very humble. If I doubted that I would win I fought. I usually didn't start a problem but I put myself in situations that weren't going to end well. I also associated with bad people. At one point I started robbing drug dealers for "fun". Anyone who seemed to be the type of person I believed I was was "fair game".
I wish I could believe in that. But I clearly remember myself making decisions I simply hadn't thought through thoroughly. So they have never been the best decisions I could have made; they have been dumb and I know it.
No! One DOES NOT need to be "better than one ever thought one could be". One needs only to be sure that, and to accept that, the quality of the effort which one is investing in one's being is genuinely virtuous. - Period. Full stop. - One does NOT need to torture and torment oneself with judgements which waste one's time and energy on an obsessive self-loathing that is instigated by accusing oneself of not being better enough (not being adequately "better than one ever thought one could be"). Simple self-assurance, vis-a-vis one's virtue in one's efforts, and simple acceptance of the sufficiency of that virtue, is the supreme key. Amor Fati.
4:03-4:26 probably the most impactful words I'll ever hear. I recently lost my mindset, my sense of self, who I am. Rewatching this video has restored at least a small part of me. That's invaluable, thank you.
“To love a life that tries every moment to make you hate it, and to still stare back at it and to say, ‘yes I love it.’ What’s scarier than an opponent who smiles while being beaten.” - This quote was amazing. I’m keeping it
"If only I had..." is a prison sentence of the mind. I look back sometimes at missed opportunities, how youth is wasted on the young and I literally freeze in sheer shock at what might have been. I now see why some men grow quiet, sullen and live with a vacant stare.
@@gregbors8364 I'm totally with you there! One simple question I'd like answered by the men in their twenties Et Al... Who play games like Call of Duty where warfare is now a passtime for entertainment... Is that the world you wish to live in?
@@ttred7621 and that right there is so terribly depressing. The really depressing part of it being so depressing is that you probably can't even see why that is so depressing... And way Mankind is ultimately destined for extinction.
@@gregbors8364 let me play devils advocate for some food for thought, could that statement just be an internal comfort excuse to avoid the responsibility to choose a greater life to then “reset” you baseline of a “simple” life ?
"Pain is weakness leaving the body." That's a phrase used by Navy Seals to endure their training and to grow stronger. By uttering it, repeating it, embracing it, the mantra reframes conscious thought into embracing pain instead of avoiding it. If you react to cold rain and try to avoid it, you'll feel anguish. If you instead embrace the coldness as a wonderful expression of nature, it will become exhilarating. The power is in the reframing, but you begin to become enlightened as this view of life's every moment from good to bad pervades your consciousness and you see the higher perspective of it all as miraculous, grand, divine in scale and scope. It's akin to understanding how small you actually are in comparison to the size of the universe. Once you see it, you are momentarily enlightened. To revisit that thought over and over trains your mind towards a more persistent perspective. When amor fati becomes your lens to which you have trained your mind to see everything through, then existence becomes less futile and instead full of wonderment in every facet.
Well in a certain way, that's true If you get shot and you feel pain, it means that you're alive (Weakness leaving the body) If sometime later you stop feeling pain, you get shot again, and you don't feel anything, it means that you're about to die... or in other cases, about to faint (Weakness didn't leave the body)
@@Kens_mojo_dojo_casa_house It's physical pain, but mainly meant as metaphorical pain. In grueling exercise or training, it's your mental ability to squash the pain telling you to stop. There's a natural inclination by the body to inform the brain that you're going too hard such as the feeling that you get when trying to run a full blown sprint for as long as possible. Your body physically could run harder or longer, but your brain is telling you to pull back. Overcoming that sensation is where the mantra comes into play. It's retooling the sensors in your brain to withstand more by conscious command. It's not referencing pains caused by injury or illness.
The more I learn of Nietzsche I don't see a nihilist unless I don't understand nihilism properly I see Nietzsche as one of the most optimistic philosophers there is
By FAR the most misread, misunderstood, and misapplied philosopher. Few thinkers generate a greater sense of positive potential than him because what is more inspiring than looking into and existing within the abyss, and STILL believing in the capacity to find the light?
@@illosovic nihilism is an offshoot of his very empowering philosophy. Believing everything as inherently meaningless is NOT an impetus for self-empowerment and transvaluation.
"Every decision you’ve made is the best and only decision you could’ve made at the time with the information you had and the state of mind you were in. And every condition of life that either these decisions led to or that are fundamental to life in general, you have no control over and cannot change" I'm honestly impressed at this wordplay, you can't just describe something so clearly like this, specially a very mentally painful feeling that most people can't even explain.
"Amor Fati" This is the one quote that my mom showed me when I was struggling with my PTSD and Depression! It always stuck with me and it will always have a special place in my heart!
@@SusannaSaunders the difference is, those who broke down and wept, some of them look at those dancing and develop hatred in their hearts. Those who dance and see them, their heart breaks and they weep with those who break. But they don't let this stop the dance. They don't stop reaching a hand out, waiting for anyone who will take it. I cry, I weep, and I am seen dancing some lonely nights
I’m in my 54th year. I had a deep love of philosophy to guide me well in my late teens and early adulthood and out of my criminal family. I was successful in ways that beat the odds and then I destroyed it with… regrets and anxiety and ambition and ultimately addiction. It is very very difficult to forgive yourself when you’ve been conditioned to believe that material success and status are markers of a good life. I returned to the Stoics a few years ago and this video made me realize I’d relegated Nietszche to the “edge lords” of my day (angry smart young men) but this message shines right on my central anguish of not being able to forgive myself. My fiancé died last year suddenly but we had 8 great years together after our first week together when he said “to get the life you want, learn how to want the life you have”. Yes.
To the *worthwhile person* seeing this, your dream is not dead. Don’t allow the past and current pains and hurts stop and define you. You’re more than a conqueror. Rise up and put yourself together. Keep pushing your future depends on it. I wish you all the best in life ❤️.
Thanks, I really needed this right now, the problem is that I don't have any passions, nothing to fight for, all I do is running away from bad feelings, especially boredom. I have nothing to scrafice my mental energy, I just do my colleague assignments and then wait for something to happen or just watch TH-cam, or maybe play video games, the point is that I don't like anything in particular. Can you give an advice?
@@raulrus9026 TH-cam and videogames interest you now. What do you watch on TH-cam? What games do you play? Depending on what you answer you might find something that interests you if you delve deeper. If not, pick something! Love and passion is a skill as well as it is an emotion. You can learn to love something, it's not some cosmic force that's granted at random.
@@Jaxan-dq2jy @I like peni You are both right... Life is futile, pointless and meaningless. It serves no point or purpose other than its own (futile) existence. You can develop a passion, a love for a thing, a game, a craft like photography or a skill like painting. But ultimately, it stands for nothing but to amuse others and pass the days of your life. It is all ultimately futile and pointless. A chasing after the wind. If you are fulfilled by it then I envy your vision of it and I hope that the window never breaks so that you see the futility of your joy.
@@SusannaSaunders that's depressing:)), thanks for say it out loud but I don't think everything it's futile if you live on a small scale, like we all do for example by helping someone or do something extreme we can forget about all the futility and pointless existence
When you're in the grip of pain, it's hard to imagine that there could be a silver lining down the track. But many of life's most valuable lessons are associated with pain. From pain, something beautiful can emerge. 💫
It's one I believe more than "good things happen to good people." That every time something painful has come my way, some occurrence after that was beautiful, fulfilling and could not have happened if the painful part hadn't. I see that as a truth.
So true, and as someone who has experienced horrendous emotional pain - including child bereavement - I say to you in horrible pain right now: Hold on! It will get better, I promise! Don't give up! ❤
hmm, I don't have such experience, bad things resulted in bad things again... unless those fruits come so late that I will not be even able to enjoy their taste
My mom is never coming back. That pain is never going away. I gave up the last 8 years of her being on this rock for a woman who cheated on me with her drug dealer after 7 years of marriage and 3 kids. The only beautiful things to come out of such pain are my 3 kids. They are the reason I wake up EVERY single day. Thank you for this. ❤
"the only way to experience the beauty of things is to think about things in a beautiful way" so powerful. Last year I was so miserable I thought I didnt have a reason to live. This makes me feel so powerful.
*“My formula for greatness in a human being is amor fati: that one wants nothing to be different, not forward, not backward, not in all eternity.”* - Nietzsche One of my favourite quotes. Brilliant video.
This is exactly what I needed today. I turned 50 this year and in my last 6 years of being romantic relationship free (after 30 years of trying) I’ve really observed those around me as a way to identify how I want to be. We have so much abundance and yet we are such a miserable American society. There are a small few things I’d want different, but those things don’t make me sad or regretful, but for sure they helped define who I am now and I’m grateful for that. Gratitude is so powerful.
@Koopa Man I’m doing great. Thanks for asking. I turn 52 in two months and I’ll hit 8 years of being single a week before my birthday. Dating has fallen off a cliff if you watch other content. My dogs make me happy and a lot of self growth has made me understand my past. No woman will ever “complete” me. Maybe if she’s a keeper she’ll “complement” my life.
I'm convinced amor fati is possible with practice. Without realising it, I'd been implementing this ideal in my life well before I started reading Nietzsche and this allows your spirit to ascend above all worldy suffering, living in reality instead of wishes and regrets.
I got 'amor fati tattoo'd on my collarbone years ago because this concept has helped me through my struggles with depression and mental illness time and time again
Amor fati is a sentiment of willingness to accept at last the way things have gone and will go, to love a life that tries in almost every moment to make you hate it, and to still stare back at it and say: "Yes, I love it." What's scarier than an opponent who smiles while being beaten?
@@ayeshhhhhhaaaaa7290 everything is tangled , the mere life itself is a sum of all the consious and unconsious decisions , the only choice we as humans need to make is be open to ideas outside of our usual , Explore, live the possibilities life has to offer , As Krishnamurti says Truth is a Pathless Land And to see/perceive it we have to be limitless ,not to form opinion on something but have the ability to see things objectively as the way they are ,as thought itself is broad as life can be
This is such a tricky theme. One the one hand, finding beauty and being present in the present is obviously wisdom. But on the other, we have a natural mode that we cannot intellectualize our way out of. This must also be part of the acceptance of ones fate, a fate that was dealt you by what you are: Human (all too human). A balance must be achieved, but once you've opened Pandora's box, it's hard to get the lid back on. "Before enlightenment; chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment; chop wood, carry water." - Zen proverb. Nietzsche did what intelligent people often do in the face of fundamental adversity; they generate a narrative that covers the holes. (There are diagnostic labels for this, but I won't get into that). As his brilliant mind was racing, he fantasized himself into a protective idea of (almost) being super human. He was smart enough to realize as much, but he was powerless to stop it as his "intellectual addiction" spiralled him ever further away from what he really wanted. So let this be a warning to us all: You are _not_ super human and your intellect can only take you so far. If your basic needs are not met (some of which involve a level of social integration) you will pay the price, no matter what your ego tells you. A human is a herd animal that thinks it's an individual. In the face of your true existential parameters, your mind constructs and ego is swept away by the ruthless indifference of the natural order like so many chaffs. "Naturam expellas furca, tamen usque recurret." (You may drive nature out with a pitchfork, but she'll always come back) - Horace
You did a good job covering the different faces of the phenomenon. This is something I've been thinking about lately. I've hit what could be called my senior years and am facing head on how to deal with the totality of my feelings about my life. I have a son who is facing many internal issues and external realities,and there is no clearer way to see if one has succeeded in life then to look at a grown child. It's all there in black and white. My time is running out and I find it easy to come to the precipice of panic. But if I adopt this philosophy then can I let go of my angst and anguish and rest easy? Am I wasting energy that I desperately need? I know I'll listen to this again until I'm sure I have taken it in fully. Then .....?
I didn't honestly think about asking for advice. I like the way you think and wouldn't be averse to your thoughts. But what I mean by this philosophy is the totality of what you expressed. To put it simply it's the ability to let go of the burden of the past and look at life in a more neutral way. Letting go, right?
Whether good or bad, you gotta embrace the experience of every moment with gratitude and peace within...start by being grateful for even (still) being alive in the first place.
This just made me cry. I’ve fought and criticized for all my life, and this both respects and honors that but also reminding me to love it anyways. In tears rn
Mopping blood off the floor and bleaching it, assisting lost visitors to the cafeteria, listening a co worker about her long hard day for a minute, checking on my friend whose glucose has gone down and is sitting on the break room, running down the pavilion to clean triage rooms for the patients waiting to be treated, and bringing tea with lots of honey to our supervisor who's battling a bad stomach. As I biked home after work last night I meditated on how much I really love working on the ER of a major hospital in my city and felt grateful to experience intense days like this and how I wouldn't change any of it. Now the cherry on top of it is finding this video today. =)
Thank you so very much for what you do. You and your work, just being there for others, listening to coworkers, I'm sure it means much more than you may think sometimes. Keep being the wonderful person you so seem to be, and I wish you all the best ❤️
This video really made me think about my life and my regrets. Before watching this video I had always thought sadness as the trigger for happiness for it made happiness special and well, happy. This video really helped me find deeper insight into my life, and yes, right now I am in the mood to say, I do love my life. Through all my sufferings in vain and with all the sadness and the pain, I would do it all over again. Again, thank you, Pursuit of Wonder. I hope I never forget this videos message. Amor Fati
God this video really hit me like a truck. I’ve been carrying around the weight of regret for many years on events I just can’t change. This perspective has given me some light, thank you
Nietzsche is my spirit animal. So much of what I read from him and about him, just hits me right in my soul. I’ve always felt so nostalgic and a longing for things I could have done differently. I would lie to myself and others and say I would never go back to change anything, that that would be a disservice to the growth I’ve experienced, and the people I’ve come to know and love because of the paths I took; but deep down, I am as nostalgic as anyone, and always thinking of where I could be now if I had done things differently. I’ve felt the loneliness Nietzsche speaks of, and the feeling that the universe is actively plotting against you, or a life “doing everything it can to make you hate it”; I’ve felt it all too often. But the truth is that the lie I’ve always told, is the reality I am coming closer to everyday. That I should love this life in spite of difficulties, and for all the reasons that make it worth living.
@@amaanpatel9889 it is probably the most challenging writing ive ever read, but im not a very bright person. remind yourself that its ok to not "get it"
@@00HoODBoy I'm not the brightest crayon either, but I might give it another go after my exams. Although I find that articles, lectures and short video summaries are easier to digest.
The editing skill (and decision-making) on show in your video are top drawer, and really help propel it. Touches of Terry Gilliam. A joy to watch, well done.
The philosophy shared in this video is lovely. Loving one’s fate certainly makes life less miserable. However, we often use regret as tool to shape our future behavior. The challenge is to analyze and reflect on the past without falling into trap of regret.
There are a lot of things that happened in my past that I wouldn't want to repeat for anything. It's hard to fathom acceptance for a repeated fate that horrible, because I still ponder what life would be like if I had made different choices.
It's very fascinating to consider that the whole concept of amor fati is very similar to the core idea of Buddhism - acceptance. Is it a mere coincidence that both Nietzsche and the Buddha arrive at this conclusion of acceptance? Or does it point to a deeper truth, namely that acceptance IS the key to leading a good life?
I always enjoy seeing someone take notice of this pairing of very temporally and geographically disparate modes of thought. It's important to note, however, that while both approaches are elaborations on "positive nihilism," Nietzsche's ideas are functionally the ultimate expression of humanism, while every school of Buddhism presents something akin to anti-humanism. Neither approach is "better" than the other, of course, though the two can be digested most easily through the cosmologies they offer. Nietzsche's proposed "circular" universe is the truly eternal stage of the joys and sufferings of the actors upon it, who persist in their frolicking and follies for ever and ever, through endless iterations. However, very much to the contrary, the final goal of every Buddhism is the total cessation of dukkha (the end of suffering, via the total negation of the aforementioned frolicking and follies) which, with the final kalpa, culminates in the termination of this universe -- which is fine, according to this system, because all mutable souls will have by then ascended to some form of alien/very-much-not-human state in a "higher" plane of existence.
Nietzsche was influenced by Hindu thought, not Buddhist - nothing about Nietzsche is defeatist - Nietzsche talked about life after life - Reincarnation
first i cried because of how truly horrific and sad Nietzsches live was and then i cried again because of the insights provided to overcome pain by smiling at it. I meditated a lot in the woods, and looking at the full moon in darkness becoming one with the nature of your body and soul i forgot my pain and started to strive for this verry beautyness ive experienced in that state of mind, it's like a dance of the soul, it gets completely loose and falls into bliss, and this way of Nietzsche to face the tragedy made me realize that this is the only way. I love this man so much
I think Carl Jung was greatly inspired by the works and life of Nietzsche, and modeled his framework of the collective conscious after many of his insights. Jung made note of Nietzsche's approach to dealing with the absurdity of life, but found it to be missing a vital component, to later build upon in his own conclusions in The Red Book and his other later works. Nietzsche had written of a 'will to power' holding value above all else: to push against the fate given to you, and channel your resolve through love for an absolute reality that you ultimately cannot control. This core tenet eventually lead him to his deathbed, broken and alone, a self-made pariah that dreamed of abandoning his hatred, his shadow, to transcend into a positive force for change. Reaching divinity through transcendence of suffering. Forcing the will to love the absurd, as his health deteriorated, as he was abandoned, as the sister he hated changed his undergarments on his dying bed. There is a certain madness that needs to be tapped into, to reposition your framework in such a way, to tap into the Dionysian pleasure found in the suffering. Nietzsche may have found that madness, a roundabout way of coming to terms with his shadow. Jung believed that Nietzsche weighed too heavily on will alone, and instead proposed an integration of a perceived shared duality in all humankind; there was a 'better' way to approach the shadow. There lies in all of us, a capacity for hatred, greed, corruption, and part of coming to accept and love the hand dealt to us comes from accepting this capacity, rather than repressing it. This integration, this acceptance of the duality within us, allows us to control the shadow and utilize its best parts. I think both of these philosophers, erudites, worked to pursue the depths of the human psyche, tapping into parts of the unconscious they may not have fully understood. Their words are invaluable today, and even now pave the way to unraveling the unconscious mind. Nietzsche may have suffered a bitter life toward the end, but Nihilism is not an inherently bitter or negative philosophy, it is simply the acceptance of our paths, meaningless as they are. There is great hope in Nihilism, in accepting the absurd and finding one's own meaning. Both of these people carry words that our modern society greatly needs.
What initially led me towards your channel was discovering your Arthur Schopenhauer video. Then later on the video from Nietzsche that was titled Discovering Who You truly are. You've helped me out of a dark place time and time again, and through adopting Eastern philosophies into a very Western capitalistic centralized way of living, I truly find value in the work you put on your TH-cam channel and I'm humbled by your teachings as well as all I've learned through Neil deGrasse Tyson's explanations and discussions on quantum theory, life and death, and the mysteries of the universe. It seems that the process of adulthood and the transitionary years between late adolescence and your early twenties seems to be a period of time where most people feel lost but you have always provided me with a sense of calm and ease, it's true what they say knowledge is power, it's the power to understand what is what has yet to be and what truly matters in the grand scheme of what is sometimes perceived as a careless universe. But there is pattern to the chaos and there is truth in the knowledge that if we are a people who are blessed with so much knowledge and so much emotion than existence cannot be a mere fluke of the universe. We are the living and feeling part of the universe that experiences itself and what time it is to be alive in the year we live in. Things may seem dark and bleak and abysmal from time to time, but there is so much beauty left if you are willing to find it, cherish it nurture it, and fight for it.
Heaven is for the old, the Retired, the weak, the lazy & the coward Reincarnation or REAL LIFE is for the Young, the dreamer, the strong, the worker & the Warrior Total opposites - the world that you know says you have to grow up, learn to stand on your own two feet, make a honest living, EARN what you desire, if stale bread is all you can afford, that is what you eat, you don't beg, you don't live on Charity Heaven is the total opposite One begs to get in down on one's knees, spend eternity as a shameless dependent, weak, sheltered, protected and cared for like a helpless child, the good life is GIVEN, not EARNED, live on charity for eternity
I`v spent a life time in regret, with all the expirences that take place for one to make such a statement from the earliest memories. The two hardest phases to live with in the English language is " IF ONLY & " WHAT IF. Accepting what is and letting go of the rest, somewhere in there one can find peace and love, not a forced peace and love but, a true seeing of things because they are Beautiful it is Beautiful but ones eyes must be opened, the eyes of your spiritual heart, the Beautiful sound of a small child`s laugh, seeing some couple truly in Love, a sunny day, a cloudy day, Beauty is truly in the eyes of the beholder.
I continually struggle between my drive to be genuine and the emotions I feel about experiences and situations. In a sense, the concept of amor fati is one that bridges western philosophy to the tenets of eastern philosophy. I find amor fati to be inauthentic; it's an instinct of mine to reject the lifestyle as one that does not fit into my own....'operating system' (I'm a software consultant and short on vocab right now). As a result, life - to me - is a mix of jiffies of happiness mixed with long periods of emotional vacancy and occasional deep, long lows. One may argue that it'd be in my best interest to try to embrace amor fati, just as it would be to find comfort in faith. But my brain rejects it because my mind finds it as acceptable as....planning for a unicorn to appear.
Watched this and it made a lot of sense, lost my beautiful dog to a snake bite in Jan, i keep going over the bizarre events that led to the distressing end. Yet i can not change what happened BUT i know my best companion had a great loving 4 years with me. Always remember there are others in a worse place than us. We survive to enjoy every day as its a present. Pets will not let you down, people will because its the nature of our existence, we are a selfish breed and its getting worse.
This is very thought-provoking. I rather think that by learning early that life cannot BE perfect but we try for perfection anyway just to be honorable people, has changed from familial honor to personal integrity since the 60s. Of course, not everyone "GOT the memo." Still, I remind myself that "Everything is exactly the way it's supposed to be," and to "Want what I already have." But I still come round to regretting and wishing. I almost wonder if it isn't a FEATURE of success. That to know success, one must also know failure. A paradoxical universe would demand nothing less of us.
“In this world, is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will. Man takes up the sword in order to shield the small wound in his heart sustained in a far-off time beyond remembrance. Man wields the sword so that he may die smiling in some far-off time beyond perception.” ~ Master Kentaro Miura
That first question is a very complex question. Their so much good and bad that has happened in my 21 years of life. I would say the good would out weigh the bad as far as me wanting to relive it. meeting my first and only true love again would be the up most point of it
I think I've struggled grasping the thought of not the totality of the ends justify the means, but the individual aspects. Like understood that I regret hurting people, it's still on my conscience even now, but I can see that it's a truth that needed to be said or a motivation that was ignited. Watching this made me finally come to terms that, I am not a disastrous and destructive fool. Circumstances are unfortunate but they happen and become experiences for others and myself. Love thyself, for if you do not, who else would? Not everything will come easily in life for you or others, but it will continue on and events contribute to the grand scheme of things. Thank you again for this.
I usually dislike seeing comments about loved ones dying because they remind me that it could happen in my own life. Well, it did... or is going to. And the night I received the news, this video was recommended to me. Thank you for helping me process things and move forward.
“Consciousness is the last thing to arise; therefore it is the most fragile.” - Friedrich Nietzsche “He (Nietzsche) knew himself better than anyone alive and attained a nobility I could never experience.”. - Sigmund Freud Fun Fact: Ecce Homo, (behold the man) are the words that Pontius Pilate used when he gave Jesus to the mob for cruxifixction.
I wasn't aware of this philosophy, but I was actually already following it. I call it "embrace the suck". Far less fancy than "amor fati" I'll admit LOL
He never had a clue, that he would be held in high esteem one day. This irony, is another example of Nietzsche's downtrodden luck. These negative happenstances, are exactly what fashioned him into such a profound thinker and influence upon Western culture. This mans last chapters of life, especially, are pretty unreal. What his sister did to his name, another example.. Poor guy
Those who produce profound works of art and philosophy are often un- or under-appreciated during their lifetimes, receiving deserved appreciation and fame only after death
I bet he always imagined he would be held in high esteem during his own life and was frustrated that no one seemed to recognize what he saw so apparently. His beliefs about other people not recognizing his brilliance and genius probably prevented the situation from ever changing. He got what he believed, as we all do.
This was brilliant... "What's more frightening to a man, that to witness a man smile whilst being beaten" - I think that's merely metaphorically in terms of - If you walk your own path, to find beauty in life, and overcoming hardship while walking that path, and loving the pain... That's powerful rhetoric... I love it...
This is a very wise perspective and whilst I was aware of Eternal Recurrence, I wasn't aware of Amour Fati. Interestingly my Dad used to tell me often that we make the best decision we can in any moment based on the information available to is in that moment. If you come to realize later it was the wrong decision - it's because you gained more insight or perspective. So dont regret - you did your best!
I looked at my past at things I have done and others have done to me. Then I looked at the events after those actions and there was no solutions. But one. Forgive yourself. Forgive others. Live on.
It’s counter intuitive in a hyper-competitive society fueled by consumerism.. but acceptance (which has many forms) truly is the key to happiness. Agree? ❤️🚀🌙
No. Accepting yourself is pure nihilism. You need to work on something imperfect or you'll suffer. You can accept what is outside of that to not burn out, but what is tolerance more than a betrayal of your own values? If it was already included in your values it wouldn't require tolerance. If your values are your ideal values, tolerance would mean exchanging the better option for a weaker one.
@@Dagdagandag that is not the kind of meaning/understanding implied by ‘acceptance’ in contexts like these and I assume, neither would’ve OP meant that by its usage. Although, I wouldn't prefer to go as far as "happiness" instead more stability and calmness, perhaps. A bit of krishnamurti might help one understand what "acceptance" signifies here, let me quote some pieces from the book, “Think on these things”: why are you afraid to be what you are? Why don't you start with what you are and not with what you should be? Without understanding what you are, merely to try to change it into what you think you should be has no meaning. Like most people, you have ideals, have you not? And the ideal is not real, not factual; it is what should be, it is something in the future. Now, what I say is this: forget the ideal, and be aware of what you are. Do not pursue what should be, but understand what is. THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU ACTUALLY ARE IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE PURSUIT OF WHAT YOU SHOULD BE. Why? Because in understanding what you are there begins a spontaneous process of transformation, whereas in becoming what you think you should be there is no change at all, but only a continuation of the same old thing in a different form. If the mind, seeing that it is stupid, tries to change its stupidity into intelligence, which is what should be, that is silly, it has no meaning, no reality; it is only the pursuit of a self-projection, a postponement of the understanding of what is. As long as the mind tries to change its stupidity into something else, it remains stupid. But if the mind says, "I realize that I am stupid and I want to understand what stupidity is, therefore I shall go into it, I shall observe how it comes into being", then that very process of inquiry brings about a fundamental transformation. How ever much I may try to become intelligent, my stupidity will remain. I may acquire the superficial polish of learning, I may be able to quote books, repeat passages from great authors, but basically I shall still be stupid. But if I see and understand stupidity as it expresses itself in my daily life-how I behave to wards my servant, how I regard my neighbour, the poor man, the rich man, the clerk-then that very awareness brings about a breaking up of stupidity. You see, the basic problem is that of change. When you ask, "What is intelligence and how is one to become intelligent?" it implies a concept of what intelligence is, and then you try to become like that concept. Now, to have a formula, a theory or concept of what intelligence is, and to try to mould yourself according to that pattern, is foolish, is it not? Whereas, if one is dull and begins to find out what dullness is without any desire to change it into something else, without saying, "I am dull, stupid, how terrible!", then one will find that in unravelling the problem there comes an intelligence freed of stupidity. You try it. Watch yourself talking to your servant, observe the tremendous respect with which you treat a governor, and how little respect you show to the man who has nothing to give you. Then you begin to find out how stupid you are; and in under standing that stupidity there is intelligence, sensitivity. You do not have to ‘become’ sensitive. The man who is trying to ‘become’ something is ugly, insensitive; he is a crude person.
@@Dagdagandag The function of education, then, is to help you from childhood not to imitate anybody, but to be yourself all the time. And this is a most difficult thing to do: whether you are ugly or beautiful, whether you are envious or jealous, always to be what you are, but understand it. To be yourself is very difficult, because you think that what you are is ignoble, and that if you could only change what you are into something noble it would be marvellous; but that never happens. Whereas, if you look at what you actually are and understand it, then in that very understanding there is a transformation. So freedom lies, not in trying to become something different, nor in doing whatever you happen to feel like doing, nor in following the authority of tradition, of your parents, of your guru, but in understanding what you are from moment to moment. (Again, from the same book)
It depends on your goal - when young we were full of dreams and aspirations and knew that fulfilling those dreams will mean lots of pain & suffering Kid A wants top grades and he knows he needs to sacrifice free time, playing sports, work hard, study hard, long late nights, less sleep, more worry Kid B doesn't care, he wants to be happy, so he sleeps in late, catches a late night movie, watches sports, plays sports No parent would urge his kid to be like Kid B But then we get old, our outlook changes - the best days are behind us, now we are done with aspirations and dreams - we slow down both mentally and physically and now comes the "stop and smell the flowers, be happy" Just a function of age
As a former kickboxing champion I can attest that there is nothing scary than an opponent who smiles whilst being beaten. I was undefeated in my career and faced many scary opponents but like most men, they could be broken down, addressed and beaten. I fought guys that were big, tall, experienced, muscular and technical but nothing was more terrifying than my 3rd opponent. A relatively obscure man, not visually impressive in any way, I beat him more than anyone I’d fought in the first 3 minutes, broken his nose, cut his eyes and rocked him multiple times, I did so again for the following 3 minutes and I’ll never forget the look he gave me beginning the 3rd, it was like he enjoyed his fate and for the first and only time in my career I found a man I didn’t believe would break. I won the fight but I’m certain had there been no limit on rounds or time this man would have beaten me, simply because of this philosophy. Amor Fati.
This is fundamentally in line with much of modern psychology. We spend more time looking back in disappointment and looking ahead to idolize the unknown, rather than loving now. IMHO what we think, and believe, shapes our perception and thus shapes mood and reality.
I appreciate the fact that Amor Fati is the result of his lifetime of struggle, and i admire the idea for what it is... but it's not for me. Just as i don't wish to negate it, neither will i strive for it. I do not wish to become a lover of pointless misery. I would rather just be miserable, and be honest with myself and others about that fact, and about why it is true. Ultimately, there is nothing to achieve.
This, exactly! Life should never be a daily struggle of miserable survival. I have seen people come out of war zones with that same look of weariness that I have when I get up in the morning. It’s ridiculous because I’m not dodging bullets and bombs. Amor Fati is not for someone who is truly trying to achieve a life worth living.
But the point is to look at misery as something else that is to take it positive or perhaps enjoy it. I think u misunderstood this or not understood it at all.
@@rein29233 You don't enjoy misery - what Nietzsche was saying we must fight to overcome it - we WILL be miserable in our lives and quite a lot of times we "WELCOME" it - meaning that if a Kid wants top grades or marks, he knows that much hard work lies ahead, he will have to make sacrifices, while the other kids are having fun, he might be stuck at home studying And we see this when we aspire, dream - nothing will fall on top of our heads - we will have to work for it, sacrifice and never know if all the hard work will ever pay off
"It is not necessarily that life could have been different that is the problem but that we resist finding beauty in how it inevitably has gone. Resenting or fighting against what has happened to you or because of you only brings additional misery onto the now, exasperating and adding more to resent and resist. Like pouring gasoline of regret onto a fire of unchangeable circumstances, we only unnecessarily intensify the flames." Just wooww!!!💯💯
Due to selfish fear, I allowed a family member to get hurt, which haunts me constantly. I wish that I had a time machine, to go back in time to save them from the danger that I saw coming. I know I can't change it, but the pain of knowing that I betrayed my own morals and selfishly allowed someone I love to get hurt due to my own cowardice, that's the worst pain I can imagine a person with a conscience carrying. I believe that, if the individual is truly remorseful and desires to change their character to prevent further pain, then they deserve a second chance, no matter what they did or what their behavior was. It's easy for me to say this and open myself to forgiving the worst of the worst, but for me, it's been a long, bumpy, chaotic, terrifying road to recovery. Of course, I'm not minimizing or downplaying the suffering of the person who was hurt, but I know that they do not need to feel guilt or shame, because it wasn't their fault whatsoever. Anybody would accept them, anybody would love them, and nobody would label them for it. I do hope that, one day, I will be able to put all of this behind me and forgive myself for such a selfish act. Of course, keeping it a secret from those I love can't be helpful to my psyche, but them knowing also wouldn't be helpful to them. I'm not a danger to anyone and I didn't want what happened to happen. I just had information that would have prevented it, but was terrified about what would happen if I revealed it. Life isn't black and white, nor is it linear. It's all so confusing, disturbing, but in the right light, those qualities can be seen as exciting and fill one with a sense of adventure. However, when you are shrouded by darkness all the time, you can't appreciate the darkness, just like a person who's had an easygoing life can't fully appreciate the light that surrounds them. Yes, I casted myself into the darkness, but I do not wish nor deserve to live here forever, regardless of who I was, because who I am wants to become something even better than the past and present versions of myself. I believe that life is like playing a game of chess with your future self, unknowingly trying to put your future self in checkmate. I believe I almost have, and there was a time where I thought I did, but as long as I still breathe, and as long as I'm allowed to be loved by even just one human on this planet, regardless of my past inaction that led to the hurting of one of my family members, then I am not in checkmate. I guess my point with this rambling is this: I would love to be able to look at everything in my life, including what has been eating me for almost three years now, and be able to say that I love it all, that I'm content. Unfortunately, I can't see myself doing that anytime soon, but I do hope to achieve something like that one day.
Byron Katie - please check out her ‘work’. Pain is inevitable but suffering is optional/a choice. It’s not the snake bite that kills people, it’s the venom/poison. Forgiveness, is a beautiful thing, including forgiving oneself.
Everything that had happened leaded you to the present state of mind. The fact that you understand your mistakes and you feel guilt and shame about them - says a lot about your present self. It means you understand, you want to change and you already have changed. Your present self doesn’t need any suffering from the mistakes you made. You learnt your lesson, if you didn’t, you wouldn’t feel ashamed. You learnt and now it’s time to let go. You can’t change the past, but you can change your future. One day, when you ready, give your love to the past self and make a funeral for them. Sometimes when you go forward and let go you can’t keep dragging your past self with you, because it’s not you. And it doesn’t mean that you have to forget about your mistakes, no. You understood your lesson and now it’s time to prove to everyone that you have changed. Become the best version of yourself, act from the love and soul, and not from ego and mind. I believe, the person who was hurt by you, wouldn’t want you to suffer your whole life. You got this, we all got this. Without our mistakes, we wouldn’t be who we are today with the knowledge that can prevent from the same mistakes in the future.
A very beautiful Hindi song goes "Barbaadiyon ka sog manana fizool tha.. Barbaadiyon ka jashn manaata chala gaya" 🤍 It means it is a waste to cry over your failures in life. Let us celebrate them instead. All the words of the song are pure gold. Talks about acceptance and celebration and living life the way it is supposed to.
Amor fati is being practiced and preached by Muslim sufis for centuries like Rumi and Jami. Accepting your fate (good or bad) is a fundamental idea in Islam and that we will be rewarded for accepting it happily. It brings peace and harmony in life and everything looks beautiful.
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I constantly remind myself that “comparison is the thief of joy” - live YOUR life- don’t compare yourself, your accomplishments, you belongings to others- it will only sour your experience.
The mindset of amor fati is part of being a theist too...I am loved into existence by God with all its little particularities and strange uniqueness, with my strengths and weaknesses, struggles and achievements, victories and failures, stupidity and greatness, He has seen it all. And salvation is, when I accept God's radical acceptance of me, that creates that power within me to remain in myself and yet reach for the stars and keep alive the hope of final redemption, as a gift of grace, totally unearned and free.
“to love a life that tries almost every moment to make you hate it and to still stare stare back at it and say yes, i love it. what’s scarier than an opponent who smiles while being beaten”
lol and the top religion of the day says life is a sin, we are all sinners - we don't belong here, if we make sure we kiss the right butt, he will be pleased and GIVE us an eternal life of ease & pleasure!
This is powerful
Absolutely!!
"To love a life ..." This is Catholicism, except that Jesus gives the Catholic saint power to love this life of suffering.
@@ramaraksha01 ???
if you're talking about Christianity, those are NONE of its core tenets
"I'm not upset that you lied to me, I'm upset that from now on I can't believe you." By F. Nietzsche.
This is heavy
Yes, forced to make a decision on whether the person is telling you the truth or lies each time they interact with you. Wild goose chases, waste of energy
So true ❤@@james6401
“Perhaps sometimes the only way to experience the beauty of things, is to think about things in a beautiful way”
well said
I love that quote so much I wrote it in my journal
Yes. A lot of it is based on the mind.. the mind set
Sounds a lot like gratitude.
@@YeOldeKamikaze mhm :)
4:10
Every decision you’ve made is the best and only decisions you could of made at the time.
With the information you had and the state of mind you were in.
Some of us have done evil things for the sake of hate. I could have made the right choice but consciously decided to commit violence to inflict pain. There was no reason or excuse. Thankfully there is forgiveness. I would not want to relive this life as i lived it before I found God.
Also I think I wanted to force someone to kill me in order to stop me.
@@fuhq5121 I don't know if my question is disrespectful or indelicate so I leave it to you to read it or not :
Do you mind telling me more about your story ?
@@nana00037 not sure how to explain really. I was definitely self loathing and self destructive. It has always seemed to manifest in outward violence and substance abuse. Often fighting people I believed would be able to destroy me in a fight. Or would be willing to do anything, including killing, to win. If I knew I could win the fight I was very humble. If I doubted that I would win I fought. I usually didn't start a problem but I put myself in situations that weren't going to end well. I also associated with bad people. At one point I started robbing drug dealers for "fun". Anyone who seemed to be the type of person I believed I was was "fair game".
I wish I could believe in that. But I clearly remember myself making decisions I simply hadn't thought through thoroughly. So they have never been the best decisions I could have made; they have been dumb and I know it.
*"I don't believe you have to be better than everybody else. I believe you have to be better than you ever thought you could be." - Ken Venturi*
No! One DOES NOT need to be "better than one ever thought one could be". One needs only to be sure that, and to accept that, the quality of the effort which one is investing in one's being is genuinely virtuous. - Period. Full stop. - One does NOT need to torture and torment oneself with judgements which waste one's time and energy on an obsessive self-loathing that is instigated by accusing oneself of not being better enough (not being adequately "better than one ever thought one could be"). Simple self-assurance, vis-a-vis one's virtue in one's efforts, and simple acceptance of the sufficiency of that virtue, is the supreme key. Amor Fati.
@@illosovic You described it perfectly: A filter which is constructed from forced fantasy of cartoonish heroism. Well done, Illosovic.
@@KnownTruthTimeSpaces yes I knew what I meant when I said it..... but thanks though, glad someone agrees!
I think you didn’t understand the amor fati
It's not about trying to become "better".... live youe life how it is meant to be lived, love your fate...amor fati
4:03-4:26 probably the most impactful words I'll ever hear.
I recently lost my mindset, my sense of self, who I am. Rewatching this video has restored at least a small part of me. That's invaluable, thank you.
You made me notice this part more carefully than I would have. And I realized how exquisite these words are. Thank you.
Thank you
Thank you
"what's scarier than an opponent who smiles while being beaten"
The message I will constantly remind myself during this pandemic and the way be are all being beaten daily into conformity and submission
"He smiled through is pain, until is pain made him smile"
The one who scowls
Each video has a line in it that hits like a sledge hammer, this was that videos line.
I love it!
“To love a life that tries every moment to make you hate it, and to still stare back at it and to say, ‘yes I love it.’ What’s scarier than an opponent who smiles while being beaten.” - This quote was amazing. I’m keeping it
"If only I had..." is a prison sentence of the mind. I look back sometimes at missed opportunities, how youth is wasted on the young and I literally freeze in sheer shock at what might have been. I now see why some men grow quiet, sullen and live with a vacant stare.
I have chosen a simple life because I never wanted to rise in and be a contributor to what I see as a profoundly dysfunctional society
@@gregbors8364 I'm totally with you there!
One simple question I'd like answered by the men in their twenties Et Al... Who play games like Call of Duty where warfare is now a passtime for entertainment... Is that the world you wish to live in?
@@ttred7621 and that right there is so terribly depressing. The really depressing part of it being so depressing is that you probably can't even see why that is so depressing... And way Mankind is ultimately destined for extinction.
@@gregbors8364 let me play devils advocate for some food for thought, could that statement just be an internal comfort excuse to avoid the responsibility to choose a greater life to then “reset” you baseline of a “simple” life ?
@@gregbors8364 ayo same
''How can I begin anything new with all of yesterday still in me.'' ~Leonard Cohen
“What’s scarier than an opponent who smiles while being beaten?”
Truly epic.
Rocky definitely scared the crap out of apollo so I agree. It is epic.
Being scarier rocks. Truly epic.
Insanity can be terrifying
The most terrifying monsters are your fellow men after all.
Ah yes “epic” thats what this is about
"Pain is weakness leaving the body." That's a phrase used by Navy Seals to endure their training and to grow stronger.
By uttering it, repeating it, embracing it, the mantra reframes conscious thought into embracing pain instead of avoiding it.
If you react to cold rain and try to avoid it, you'll feel anguish.
If you instead embrace the coldness as a wonderful expression of nature, it will become exhilarating.
The power is in the reframing, but you begin to become enlightened as this view of life's every moment from good to bad pervades your consciousness and you see the higher perspective of it all as miraculous, grand, divine in scale and scope.
It's akin to understanding how small you actually are in comparison to the size of the universe. Once you see it, you are momentarily enlightened. To revisit that thought over and over trains your mind towards a more persistent perspective.
When amor fati becomes your lens to which you have trained your mind to see everything through, then existence becomes less futile and instead full of wonderment in every facet.
One word to describe this universally enlightening comment:
*Based.*
Well in a certain way, that's true
If you get shot and you feel pain, it means that you're alive (Weakness leaving the body)
If sometime later you stop feeling pain, you get shot again, and you don't feel anything, it means that you're about to die... or in other cases, about to faint (Weakness didn't leave the body)
"dang you think maybe you should go to the hospital?"
Nah Appendicitis isn't real. That's just the weakness leaving my body
*Dies in pain*
Very well written. Thank you 🙏
@@Kens_mojo_dojo_casa_house It's physical pain, but mainly meant as metaphorical pain.
In grueling exercise or training, it's your mental ability to squash the pain telling you to stop.
There's a natural inclination by the body to inform the brain that you're going too hard such as the feeling that you get when trying to run a full blown sprint for as long as possible. Your body physically could run harder or longer, but your brain is telling you to pull back.
Overcoming that sensation is where the mantra comes into play. It's retooling the sensors in your brain to withstand more by conscious command.
It's not referencing pains caused by injury or illness.
The more I learn of Nietzsche I don't see a nihilist unless I don't understand nihilism properly I see Nietzsche as one of the most optimistic philosophers there is
By FAR the most misread, misunderstood, and misapplied philosopher. Few thinkers generate a greater sense of positive potential than him because what is more inspiring than looking into and existing within the abyss, and STILL believing in the capacity to find the light?
In short, Nietzsche is a perspectivist, a person who believes that all truth claims are contingent on, and the product of, a person's perspective.
Nihilism isn't inherently negative the way people think
I love the fact that someone can love life and act like it's worth living despite the terrible suffering.
@@illosovic nihilism is an offshoot of his very empowering philosophy. Believing everything as inherently meaningless is NOT an impetus for self-empowerment and transvaluation.
"Every decision you’ve made is the best and only decision you could’ve made at the time with the information you had and the state of mind you were in. And every condition of life that either these decisions led to or that are fundamental to life in general, you have no control over and cannot change"
I'm honestly impressed at this wordplay, you can't just describe something so clearly like this, specially a very mentally painful feeling that most people can't even explain.
That's all it is. Wordplay. The idea that every decision anyone made was the best is beyond absurd.
@@MAXIMUSMINIMALIST where do you see the words "best decision ever made" in that statement?
"Amor Fati"
This is the one quote that my mom showed me when I was struggling with my PTSD and Depression! It always stuck with me and it will always have a special place in my heart!
❤️
what quote?
@@orionleo9392 Amor fati
@@orionleo9392 Love of someone's fate
@@kyetexe954 th-cam.com/video/7NFX2OCGDOI/w-d-xo.html
"acceptance" is the key to a happy life.
"Those who were seen dancing were thought of insane by those who could not hear the music"
Those who broke down and wept were thought of (as) insane by those who were blinded by the joy of the sunrise.
@@SusannaSaunders the difference is, those who broke down and wept, some of them look at those dancing and develop hatred in their hearts. Those who dance and see them, their heart breaks and they weep with those who break. But they don't let this stop the dance. They don't stop reaching a hand out, waiting for anyone who will take it. I cry, I weep, and I am seen dancing some lonely nights
@@Mind2Mason 🖤👌🏾
I love this
I’m in my 54th year. I had a deep love of philosophy to guide me well in my late teens and early adulthood and out of my criminal family. I was successful in ways that beat the odds and then I destroyed it with… regrets and anxiety and ambition and ultimately addiction.
It is very very difficult to forgive yourself when you’ve been conditioned to believe that material success and status are markers of a good life.
I returned to the Stoics a few years ago and this video made me realize I’d relegated Nietszche to the “edge lords” of my day (angry smart young men) but this message shines right on my central anguish of not being able to forgive myself.
My fiancé died last year suddenly but we had 8 great years together after our first week together when he said “to get the life you want, learn how to want the life you have”.
Yes.
Neitzche was born way ahead of his time.
I sometimes wish he was still there and see how he positively impacted many people's lives across the world.
If he was born today, he would still be ahead of his time.
Do we even have great philosophers today?
How do you know he does not see and share in all that we experience now? He has re-emerged into non-physical being, not gone away.
He'd be a great shitposter tho
@@maggie0285 You ever heard of nikocado avocado ?
“What scarier than an opponent who smiles while being beaten?”
This hit me right in the fati.
To the *worthwhile person* seeing this, your dream is not dead. Don’t allow the past and current pains and hurts stop and define you. You’re more than a conqueror. Rise up and put yourself together. Keep pushing your future depends on it. I wish you all the best in life ❤️.
Thanks, I really needed this right now, the problem is that I don't have any passions, nothing to fight for, all I do is running away from bad feelings, especially boredom. I have nothing to scrafice my mental energy, I just do my colleague assignments and then wait for something to happen or just watch TH-cam, or maybe play video games, the point is that I don't like anything in particular. Can you give an advice?
Who's the worthwhile person?
@@raulrus9026 TH-cam and videogames interest you now. What do you watch on TH-cam? What games do you play? Depending on what you answer you might find something that interests you if you delve deeper.
If not, pick something! Love and passion is a skill as well as it is an emotion. You can learn to love something, it's not some cosmic force that's granted at random.
@@Jaxan-dq2jy
@I like peni
You are both right... Life is futile, pointless and meaningless. It serves no point or purpose other than its own (futile) existence. You can develop a passion, a love for a thing, a game, a craft like photography or a skill like painting. But ultimately, it stands for nothing but to amuse others and pass the days of your life. It is all ultimately futile and pointless. A chasing after the wind. If you are fulfilled by it then I envy your vision of it and I hope that the window never breaks so that you see the futility of your joy.
@@SusannaSaunders that's depressing:)), thanks for say it out loud but I don't think everything it's futile if you live on a small scale, like we all do for example by helping someone or do something extreme we can forget about all the futility and pointless existence
“To love a life that tries in almost every moment to make you hate it, and to still stare back at it and say, yes, I love it.”
When you're in the grip of pain, it's hard to imagine that there could be a silver lining down the track. But many of life's most valuable lessons are associated with pain. From pain, something beautiful can emerge. 💫
It's one I believe more than "good things happen to good people." That every time something painful has come my way, some occurrence after that was beautiful, fulfilling and could not have happened if the painful part hadn't. I see that as a truth.
So true, and as someone who has experienced horrendous emotional pain - including child bereavement - I say to you in horrible pain right now: Hold on! It will get better, I promise! Don't give up! ❤
I mean without pain, would we truly be able to appreciate those beautiful things for just how great they are without the knowledge of what pain is?
hmm, I don't have such experience, bad things resulted in bad things again... unless those fruits come so late that I will not be even able to enjoy their taste
My mom is never coming back. That pain is never going away. I gave up the last 8 years of her being on this rock for a woman who cheated on me with her drug dealer after 7 years of marriage and 3 kids. The only beautiful things to come out of such pain are my 3 kids. They are the reason I wake up EVERY single day. Thank you for this. ❤
"the only way to experience the beauty of things is to think about things in a beautiful way" so powerful. Last year I was so miserable I thought I didnt have a reason to live. This makes me feel so powerful.
*“My formula for greatness in a human being is amor fati: that one wants nothing to be different, not forward, not backward, not in all eternity.”*
- Nietzsche
One of my favourite quotes. Brilliant video.
This is exactly what I needed today.
I turned 50 this year and in my last 6 years of being romantic relationship free (after 30 years of trying) I’ve really observed those around me as a way to identify how I want to be. We have so much abundance and yet we are such a miserable American society.
There are a small few things I’d want different, but those things don’t make me sad or regretful, but for sure they helped define who I am now and I’m grateful for that.
Gratitude is so powerful.
@Koopa Man I’m doing great. Thanks for asking. I turn 52 in two months and I’ll hit 8 years of being single a week before my birthday.
Dating has fallen off a cliff if you watch other content. My dogs make me happy and a lot of self growth has made me understand my past.
No woman will ever “complete” me. Maybe if she’s a keeper she’ll “complement” my life.
I no longer seek happiness in romance. The best times of my romances have been before I met "her"😂 enjoy the path that you are on.
@@alaskalograft I’m going on 8 years now. Still happy. I’m on the right path for sure. I don’t think I know a happy couple that’s under 60 yrs old.
this channel is a goldmine. it means everything
my favorite channel on youtube
I'm convinced amor fati is possible with practice. Without realising it, I'd been implementing this ideal in my life well before I started reading Nietzsche and this allows your spirit to ascend above all worldy suffering, living in reality instead of wishes and regrets.
I got 'amor fati tattoo'd on my collarbone years ago because this concept has helped me through my struggles with depression and mental illness time and time again
I’m getting one
Amor fati is a sentiment of willingness to accept at last the way things have gone and will go, to love a life that tries in almost every moment to make you hate it, and to still stare back at it and say: "Yes, I love it." What's scarier than an opponent who smiles while being beaten?
Super
This came at a very needed time...
Cool....
For me too, it's weird lol
lol I was having suicidal thoughts, then this popped up.
@@LaiPt Hey I hope you are feeling better 🌸
@@LaiPt please don't do anything to yourself. You matter.
A quote from Mr. Nobody the movie: “As long as you don’t chose, everything remains possible”.
But isn't choosing not to choose also a choice ?
@@ayeshhhhhhaaaaa7290 That's exactly what I think whenever I see that quote
@@user-oj9cf9uo4g ikr everything seems contradictory
@@ayeshhhhhhaaaaa7290 everything is tangled , the mere life itself is a sum of all the consious and unconsious decisions , the only choice we as humans need to make is be open to ideas outside of our usual , Explore, live the possibilities life has to offer , As Krishnamurti says Truth is a Pathless Land And to see/perceive it we have to be limitless ,not to form opinion on something but have the ability to see things objectively as the way they are ,as thought itself is broad as life can be
@@ayeshhhhhhaaaaa7290 I chose no to chose for a long time, and what happened was that my present forever replicated my past and I became stuck.
This is such a tricky theme. One the one hand, finding beauty and being present in the present is obviously wisdom. But on the other, we have a natural mode that we cannot intellectualize our way out of. This must also be part of the acceptance of ones fate, a fate that was dealt you by what you are: Human (all too human). A balance must be achieved, but once you've opened Pandora's box, it's hard to get the lid back on. "Before enlightenment; chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment; chop wood, carry water." - Zen proverb.
Nietzsche did what intelligent people often do in the face of fundamental adversity; they generate a narrative that covers the holes. (There are diagnostic labels for this, but I won't get into that). As his brilliant mind was racing, he fantasized himself into a protective idea of (almost) being super human. He was smart enough to realize as much, but he was powerless to stop it as his "intellectual addiction" spiralled him ever further away from what he really wanted.
So let this be a warning to us all: You are _not_ super human and your intellect can only take you so far. If your basic needs are not met (some of which involve a level of social integration) you will pay the price, no matter what your ego tells you. A human is a herd animal that thinks it's an individual. In the face of your true existential parameters, your mind constructs and ego is swept away by the ruthless indifference of the natural order like so many chaffs. "Naturam expellas furca, tamen usque recurret." (You may drive nature out with a pitchfork, but she'll always come back) - Horace
i disagree
Very good point !!
You did a good job covering the different faces of the phenomenon. This is something I've been thinking about lately. I've hit what could be called my senior years and am facing head on how to deal with the totality of my feelings about my life. I have a son who is facing many internal issues and external realities,and there is no clearer way to see if one has succeeded in life then to look at a grown child. It's all there in black and white. My time is running out and I find it easy to come to the precipice of panic. But if I adopt this philosophy then can I let go of my angst and anguish and rest easy? Am I wasting energy that I desperately need? I know I'll listen to this again until I'm sure I have taken it in fully. Then .....?
@@Jtma67 Are you asking me for advice? If so, I need to know what you mean by "this philosophy".
I didn't honestly think about asking for advice. I like the way you think and wouldn't be averse to your thoughts. But what I mean by this philosophy is the totality of what you expressed. To put it simply it's the ability to let go of the burden of the past and look at life in a more neutral way. Letting go, right?
Whether good or bad, you gotta embrace the experience of every moment with gratitude and peace within...start by being grateful for even (still) being alive in the first place.
The odds of even being here are astronomical.
8:28 "What's scarier than an opponent who smiles while being beaten?" gave me chills.
This just made me cry. I’ve fought and criticized for all my life, and this both respects and honors that but also reminding me to love it anyways. In tears rn
Mopping blood off the floor and bleaching it, assisting lost visitors to the cafeteria, listening a co worker about her long hard day for a minute, checking on my friend whose glucose has gone down and is sitting on the break room, running down the pavilion to clean triage rooms for the patients waiting to be treated, and bringing tea with lots of honey to our supervisor who's battling a bad stomach. As I biked home after work last night I meditated on how much I really love working on the ER of a major hospital in my city and felt grateful to experience intense days like this and how I wouldn't change any of it. Now the cherry on top of it is finding this video today. =)
Thank you so very much for what you do. You and your work, just being there for others, listening to coworkers, I'm sure it means much more than you may think sometimes. Keep being the wonderful person you so seem to be, and I wish you all the best ❤️
@@NoxBruh Thank you =)
@@miguelfernandes5628 You're very welcome! I hope you have a wonderful day, and stay safe this holiday season!
This video really made me think about my life and my regrets. Before watching this video I had always thought sadness as the trigger for happiness for it made happiness special and well, happy. This video really helped me find deeper insight into my life, and yes, right now I am in the mood to say, I do love my life.
Through all my sufferings in vain and with all the sadness and the pain, I would do it all over again.
Again, thank you, Pursuit of Wonder. I hope I never forget this videos message.
Amor Fati
God this video really hit me like a truck. I’ve been carrying around the weight of regret for many years on events I just can’t change. This perspective has given me some light, thank you
Nietzsche is my spirit animal.
So much of what I read from him and about him, just hits me right in my soul. I’ve always felt so nostalgic and a longing for things I could have done differently. I would lie to myself and others and say I would never go back to change anything, that that would be a disservice to the growth I’ve experienced, and the people I’ve come to know and love because of the paths I took; but deep down, I am as nostalgic as anyone, and always thinking of where I could be now if I had done things differently.
I’ve felt the loneliness Nietzsche speaks of, and the feeling that the universe is actively plotting against you, or a life “doing everything it can to make you hate it”; I’ve felt it all too often. But the truth is that the lie I’ve always told, is the reality I am coming closer to everyday. That I should love this life in spite of difficulties, and for all the reasons that make it worth living.
I was just starting to fully read beyond good and evil today and now this video. How convenient.
I tried reading Nietzsche, but I find most of his writings quite hard to grasp😂
just ordered the book last weekend. pretty excited to start reading it.
@@amaanpatel9889 it is probably the most challenging writing ive ever read, but im not a very bright person. remind yourself that its ok to not "get it"
@@00HoODBoy I'm not the brightest crayon either, but I might give it another go after my exams. Although I find that articles, lectures and short video summaries are easier to digest.
@@amaanpatel9889 which major you have taken at college ??
The editing skill (and decision-making) on show in your video are top drawer, and really help propel it. Touches of Terry Gilliam. A joy to watch, well done.
I know Nietzsche as a philosopher but have never engaged with his work until now. What a serendipitous moment in my life to stumble across this video.
The philosophy shared in this video is lovely. Loving one’s fate certainly makes life less miserable.
However, we often use regret as tool to shape our future behavior. The challenge is to analyze and reflect on the past without falling into trap of regret.
There are a lot of things that happened in my past that I wouldn't want to repeat for anything. It's hard to fathom acceptance for a repeated fate that horrible, because I still ponder what life would be like if I had made different choices.
I am with you on that
It's very fascinating to consider that the whole concept of amor fati is very similar to the core idea of Buddhism - acceptance. Is it a mere coincidence that both Nietzsche and the Buddha arrive at this conclusion of acceptance? Or does it point to a deeper truth, namely that acceptance IS the key to leading a good life?
I always enjoy seeing someone take notice of this pairing of very temporally and geographically disparate modes of thought. It's important to note, however, that while both approaches are elaborations on "positive nihilism," Nietzsche's ideas are functionally the ultimate expression of humanism, while every school of Buddhism presents something akin to anti-humanism.
Neither approach is "better" than the other, of course, though the two can be digested most easily through the cosmologies they offer. Nietzsche's proposed "circular" universe is the truly eternal stage of the joys and sufferings of the actors upon it, who persist in their frolicking and follies for ever and ever, through endless iterations. However, very much to the contrary, the final goal of every Buddhism is the total cessation of dukkha (the end of suffering, via the total negation of the aforementioned frolicking and follies) which, with the final kalpa, culminates in the termination of this universe -- which is fine, according to this system, because all mutable souls will have by then ascended to some form of alien/very-much-not-human state in a "higher" plane of existence.
Nietzsche was influenced by Hindu thought, not Buddhist - nothing about Nietzsche is defeatist - Nietzsche talked about life after life - Reincarnation
Schopenhauer was the first who brought Buddhism into western philosophy. Subsequently Nietzsche got inspired.
it's akin to Catholic resignation.
this guy creates trance so deep that i feel even the ad is a part of story.
lol
“The opponent who smiles while being beaten is probably a masochist.”
You have a point! LOL
lol
Or maybe that was the way he found to extract enjoyment out of a painful thing. Which in fact is the point of this whole thing
Or maybe he received an enlightened to delight in the showers of pain because pain is what makes us stronger.
I come back to this from time to time to remind myself how nice the whole idea you are talking about is, thanks for everything dude.
"The human is the only species that must be encouraged to live."
first i cried because of how truly horrific and sad Nietzsches live was and then i cried again because of the insights provided to overcome pain by smiling at it. I meditated a lot in the woods, and looking at the full moon in darkness becoming one with the nature of your body and soul i forgot my pain and started to strive for this verry beautyness ive experienced in that state of mind, it's like a dance of the soul, it gets completely loose and falls into bliss, and this way of Nietzsche to face the tragedy made me realize that this is the only way. I love this man so much
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These were probably the best 5'ish minutes of my day, and my day was already beautiful. Thank you.
I think Carl Jung was greatly inspired by the works and life of Nietzsche, and modeled his framework of the collective conscious after many of his insights. Jung made note of Nietzsche's approach to dealing with the absurdity of life, but found it to be missing a vital component, to later build upon in his own conclusions in The Red Book and his other later works. Nietzsche had written of a 'will to power' holding value above all else: to push against the fate given to you, and channel your resolve through love for an absolute reality that you ultimately cannot control. This core tenet eventually lead him to his deathbed, broken and alone, a self-made pariah that dreamed of abandoning his hatred, his shadow, to transcend into a positive force for change. Reaching divinity through transcendence of suffering. Forcing the will to love the absurd, as his health deteriorated, as he was abandoned, as the sister he hated changed his undergarments on his dying bed. There is a certain madness that needs to be tapped into, to reposition your framework in such a way, to tap into the Dionysian pleasure found in the suffering. Nietzsche may have found that madness, a roundabout way of coming to terms with his shadow.
Jung believed that Nietzsche weighed too heavily on will alone, and instead proposed an integration of a perceived shared duality in all humankind; there was a 'better' way to approach the shadow. There lies in all of us, a capacity for hatred, greed, corruption, and part of coming to accept and love the hand dealt to us comes from accepting this capacity, rather than repressing it. This integration, this acceptance of the duality within us, allows us to control the shadow and utilize its best parts.
I think both of these philosophers, erudites, worked to pursue the depths of the human psyche, tapping into parts of the unconscious they may not have fully understood. Their words are invaluable today, and even now pave the way to unraveling the unconscious mind. Nietzsche may have suffered a bitter life toward the end, but Nihilism is not an inherently bitter or negative philosophy, it is simply the acceptance of our paths, meaningless as they are. There is great hope in Nihilism, in accepting the absurd and finding one's own meaning. Both of these people carry words that our modern society greatly needs.
What initially led me towards your channel was discovering your Arthur Schopenhauer video. Then later on the video from Nietzsche that was titled Discovering Who You truly are. You've helped me out of a dark place time and time again, and through adopting Eastern philosophies into a very Western capitalistic centralized way of living, I truly find value in the work you put on your TH-cam channel and I'm humbled by your teachings as well as all I've learned through Neil deGrasse Tyson's explanations and discussions on quantum theory, life and death, and the mysteries of the universe. It seems that the process of adulthood and the transitionary years between late adolescence and your early twenties seems to be a period of time where most people feel lost but you have always provided me with a sense of calm and ease, it's true what they say knowledge is power, it's the power to understand what is what has yet to be and what truly matters in the grand scheme of what is sometimes perceived as a careless universe. But there is pattern to the chaos and there is truth in the knowledge that if we are a people who are blessed with so much knowledge and so much emotion than existence cannot be a mere fluke of the universe. We are the living and feeling part of the universe that experiences itself and what time it is to be alive in the year we live in. Things may seem dark and bleak and abysmal from time to time, but there is so much beauty left if you are willing to find it, cherish it nurture it, and fight for it.
Heaven is for the old, the Retired, the weak, the lazy & the coward
Reincarnation or REAL LIFE is for the Young, the dreamer, the strong, the worker & the Warrior
Total opposites - the world that you know says you have to grow up, learn to stand on your own two feet, make a honest living, EARN what you desire, if stale bread is all you can afford, that is what you eat, you don't beg, you don't live on Charity
Heaven is the total opposite
One begs to get in down on one's knees, spend eternity as a shameless dependent, weak, sheltered, protected and cared for like a helpless child, the good life is GIVEN, not EARNED, live on charity for eternity
I`v spent a life time in regret, with all the expirences that take place for one to make such a statement from the earliest memories. The two hardest phases to live with in the English language is " IF ONLY & " WHAT IF.
Accepting what is and letting go of the rest, somewhere in there one can find peace and love, not a forced peace and love but, a true seeing of things because they are Beautiful it is Beautiful but ones eyes must be opened, the eyes of your spiritual heart, the Beautiful sound of a small child`s laugh, seeing some couple truly in Love, a sunny day, a cloudy day, Beauty is truly in the eyes of the beholder.
"For in great wisdom is great sorrow. "
Nietzsche became those words, yet never resolved his childhood.. Paradoxical
I continually struggle between my drive to be genuine and the emotions I feel about experiences and situations. In a sense, the concept of amor fati is one that bridges western philosophy to the tenets of eastern philosophy. I find amor fati to be inauthentic; it's an instinct of mine to reject the lifestyle as one that does not fit into my own....'operating system' (I'm a software consultant and short on vocab right now). As a result, life - to me - is a mix of jiffies of happiness mixed with long periods of emotional vacancy and occasional deep, long lows. One may argue that it'd be in my best interest to try to embrace amor fati, just as it would be to find comfort in faith. But my brain rejects it because my mind finds it as acceptable as....planning for a unicorn to appear.
@@cheeriobutt embrace, Memento mori.
"Beware of Software "
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God speed Tina
Watched this and it made a lot of sense, lost my beautiful dog to a snake bite in Jan, i keep going over the bizarre events that led to the distressing end. Yet i can not change what happened BUT i know my best companion had a great loving 4 years with me. Always remember there are others in a worse place than us. We survive to enjoy every day as its a present. Pets will not let you down, people will because its the nature of our existence, we are a selfish breed and its getting worse.
This is very thought-provoking. I rather think that by learning early that life cannot BE perfect but we try for perfection anyway just to be honorable people, has changed from familial honor to personal integrity since the 60s. Of course, not everyone "GOT the memo."
Still, I remind myself that "Everything is exactly the way it's supposed to be," and to "Want what I already have." But I still come round to regretting and wishing. I almost wonder if it isn't a FEATURE of success. That to know success, one must also know failure. A paradoxical universe would demand nothing less of us.
This music choices in this one is awesome
“In this world, is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will. Man takes up the sword in order to shield the small wound in his heart sustained in a far-off time beyond remembrance. Man wields the sword so that he may die smiling in some far-off time beyond perception.”
~ Master Kentaro Miura
That first question is a very complex question. Their so much good and bad that has happened in my 21 years of life. I would say the good would out weigh the bad as far as me wanting to relive it. meeting my first and only true love again would be the up most point of it
I think I've struggled grasping the thought of not the totality of the ends justify the means, but the individual aspects. Like understood that I regret hurting people, it's still on my conscience even now, but I can see that it's a truth that needed to be said or a motivation that was ignited. Watching this made me finally come to terms that, I am not a disastrous and destructive fool. Circumstances are unfortunate but they happen and become experiences for others and myself. Love thyself, for if you do not, who else would? Not everything will come easily in life for you or others, but it will continue on and events contribute to the grand scheme of things.
Thank you again for this.
I usually dislike seeing comments about loved ones dying because they remind me that it could happen in my own life. Well, it did... or is going to. And the night I received the news, this video was recommended to me.
Thank you for helping me process things and move forward.
“Consciousness is the last thing to arise; therefore it is the most fragile.” - Friedrich Nietzsche
“He (Nietzsche) knew himself better than anyone alive and attained a nobility I could never experience.”. - Sigmund Freud
Fun Fact: Ecce Homo, (behold the man) are the words that Pontius Pilate used when he gave Jesus to the mob for cruxifixction.
I wasn't aware of this philosophy, but I was actually already following it. I call it "embrace the suck". Far less fancy than "amor fati" I'll admit LOL
He never had a clue, that he would be held in high esteem one day. This irony, is another example of Nietzsche's downtrodden luck. These negative happenstances, are exactly what fashioned him into such a profound thinker and influence upon Western culture. This mans last chapters of life, especially, are pretty unreal. What his sister did to his name, another example.. Poor guy
Those who produce profound works of art and philosophy are often un- or under-appreciated during their lifetimes, receiving deserved appreciation and fame only after death
I bet he always imagined he would be held in high esteem during his own life and was frustrated that no one seemed to recognize what he saw so apparently. His beliefs about other people not recognizing his brilliance and genius probably prevented the situation from ever changing. He got what he believed, as we all do.
What did his sister do?
@@StuperrDuck She changed his writings according to Nazi narrative.
But how can you say poor guy now that he is recognized as one of the greatest philosophers and in the most salient sense, he lives
This was brilliant... "What's more frightening to a man, that to witness a man smile whilst being beaten" - I think that's merely metaphorically in terms of - If you walk your own path, to find beauty in life, and overcoming hardship while walking that path, and loving the pain...
That's powerful rhetoric... I love it...
Amor Fati just changed my life.❤️
Thanks puirsuit of wonder.❤️
I love watching this at .50 speed. its so much more darker and angsty.
I just tried it. Too angsty.
I got goosebumps in my head is that even possible ?
Yes it is. It means you connected with the universe.
This is a very wise perspective and whilst I was aware of Eternal Recurrence, I wasn't aware of Amour Fati. Interestingly my Dad used to tell me often that we make the best decision we can in any moment based on the information available to is in that moment. If you come to realize later it was the wrong decision - it's because you gained more insight or perspective. So dont regret - you did your best!
He simply convert life's pain in to a pleasure.
SO IN SIMPLE TERMS "it is what it is and beautiful "
In ebonics.
I always find myself revisiting his philosophy for guidance.
Me too
@@theotherhalfoftheang thanks for the reminder bruh
I looked at my past at things I have done and others have done to me. Then I looked at the events after those actions and there was no solutions. But one. Forgive yourself. Forgive others. Live on.
It’s counter intuitive in a hyper-competitive society fueled by consumerism.. but acceptance (which has many forms) truly is the key to happiness. Agree? ❤️🚀🌙
No.
Accepting yourself is pure nihilism.
You need to work on something imperfect or you'll suffer.
You can accept what is outside of that to not burn out, but what is tolerance more than a betrayal of your own values?
If it was already included in your values it wouldn't require tolerance.
If your values are your ideal values, tolerance would mean exchanging the better option for a weaker one.
No
@@Dagdagandag that is not the kind of meaning/understanding implied by ‘acceptance’ in contexts like these and I assume, neither would’ve OP meant that by its usage. Although, I wouldn't prefer to go as far as "happiness" instead more stability and calmness, perhaps.
A bit of krishnamurti might help one understand what "acceptance" signifies here, let me quote some pieces from the book, “Think on these things”:
why are you afraid to be what you are? Why don't you start with what you are and not with what you should be? Without understanding what you are, merely to try to change it into what you think you should be has no meaning.
Like most people, you have ideals, have you not? And the ideal is not real, not factual; it is what should be, it is something in the future. Now, what I say is this: forget the ideal, and be aware of what you are. Do not pursue what should be, but understand what is. THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU ACTUALLY ARE IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE PURSUIT OF WHAT YOU SHOULD BE. Why? Because in understanding what you are there begins a spontaneous process of transformation, whereas in becoming what you think you should be there is no change at all, but only a continuation of the same old thing in a different form. If the mind, seeing that it is stupid, tries to change its stupidity into intelligence, which is what should be, that is silly, it has no meaning, no reality; it is only the pursuit of a self-projection, a postponement of the understanding of what is. As long as the mind tries to change its stupidity into something else, it remains stupid. But if the mind says, "I realize that I am stupid and I want to understand what stupidity is, therefore I shall go into it, I shall observe how it comes into being", then that very process of inquiry brings about a fundamental transformation.
How ever much I may try to become intelligent, my stupidity will remain. I may acquire the superficial polish of learning, I may be able to quote books, repeat passages from great authors, but basically I shall still be stupid. But if I see and understand stupidity as it expresses itself in my daily life-how I behave to wards my servant, how I regard my neighbour, the poor man, the rich man, the clerk-then that very awareness brings about a breaking up of stupidity.
You see, the basic problem is that of change. When you ask, "What is intelligence and how is one to become intelligent?" it implies a concept of what intelligence is, and then you try to become like that concept. Now, to have a formula, a theory or concept of what intelligence is, and to try to mould yourself according to that pattern, is foolish, is it not? Whereas, if one is dull and begins to find out what dullness is without any desire to change it into something else, without saying, "I am dull, stupid, how terrible!", then one will find that in unravelling the problem there comes an intelligence freed of stupidity.
You try it. Watch yourself talking to your servant, observe the tremendous respect with which you treat a governor, and how little respect you show to the man who has nothing to give you. Then you begin to find out how stupid you are; and in under standing that stupidity there is intelligence, sensitivity. You do not have to ‘become’ sensitive. The man who is trying to ‘become’ something is ugly, insensitive; he is a crude person.
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The function of education, then, is to help you from childhood not to imitate anybody, but to be yourself all the time. And this is a most difficult thing to do: whether you are ugly or beautiful, whether you are envious or jealous, always to be what you are, but understand it. To be yourself is very difficult, because you think that what you are is ignoble, and that if you could only change what you are into something noble it would be marvellous; but that never happens. Whereas, if you look at what you actually are and understand it, then in that very understanding there is a transformation. So freedom lies, not in trying to become something different, nor in doing whatever you happen to feel like doing, nor in following the authority of tradition, of your parents, of your guru, but in understanding what you are from moment to moment.
(Again, from the same book)
It depends on your goal - when young we were full of dreams and aspirations and knew that fulfilling those dreams will mean lots of pain & suffering
Kid A wants top grades and he knows he needs to sacrifice free time, playing sports, work hard, study hard, long late nights, less sleep, more worry
Kid B doesn't care, he wants to be happy, so he sleeps in late, catches a late night movie, watches sports, plays sports
No parent would urge his kid to be like Kid B
But then we get old, our outlook changes - the best days are behind us, now we are done with aspirations and dreams - we slow down both mentally and physically and now comes the "stop and smell the flowers, be happy"
Just a function of age
As a former kickboxing champion I can attest that there is nothing scary than an opponent who smiles whilst being beaten.
I was undefeated in my career and faced many scary opponents but like most men, they could be broken down, addressed and beaten.
I fought guys that were big, tall, experienced, muscular and technical but nothing was more terrifying than my 3rd opponent. A relatively obscure man, not visually impressive in any way, I beat him more than anyone I’d fought in the first 3 minutes, broken his nose, cut his eyes and rocked him multiple times, I did so again for the following 3 minutes and I’ll never forget the look he gave me beginning the 3rd, it was like he enjoyed his fate and for the first and only time in my career I found a man I didn’t believe would break.
I won the fight but I’m certain had there been no limit on rounds or time this man would have beaten me, simply because of this philosophy. Amor Fati.
There are people who CHOOSE to seek this kind of knowledge. If you're reading this, you're one of them. I thank you.
This is fundamentally in line with much of modern psychology. We spend more time looking back in disappointment and looking ahead to idolize the unknown, rather than loving now. IMHO what we think, and believe, shapes our perception and thus shapes mood and reality.
I don't know how many times I've seen this video. It brings peace to my mind
I have been in a state of debilitating depression. This video is among the sources of inspiration I turn to to keep going.
I appreciate the fact that Amor Fati is the result of his lifetime of struggle, and i admire the idea for what it is... but it's not for me. Just as i don't wish to negate it, neither will i strive for it. I do not wish to become a lover of pointless misery. I would rather just be miserable, and be honest with myself and others about that fact, and about why it is true. Ultimately, there is nothing to achieve.
This, exactly!
Life should never be a daily struggle of miserable survival. I have seen people come out of war zones with that same look of weariness that I have when I get up in the morning. It’s ridiculous because I’m not dodging bullets and bombs. Amor Fati is not for someone who is truly trying to achieve a life worth living.
Yes and then you will just exist - just another statistic
But the point is to look at misery as something else that is to take it positive or perhaps enjoy it. I think u misunderstood this or not understood it at all.
@@rein29233 You don't enjoy misery - what Nietzsche was saying we must fight to overcome it - we WILL be miserable in our lives and quite a lot of times we "WELCOME" it - meaning that if a Kid wants top grades or marks, he knows that much hard work lies ahead, he will have to make sacrifices, while the other kids are having fun, he might be stuck at home studying
And we see this when we aspire, dream - nothing will fall on top of our heads - we will have to work for it, sacrifice and never know if all the hard work will ever pay off
“In each of us is another whom we do not know
They speak to us in dreams
And tells us how differently they see us from the way we see our selves “
I get this just as I reflected today for the first time in years about my past and some of the pain and regrets I have.
"It is not necessarily that life could have been different that is the problem but that we resist finding beauty in how it inevitably has gone. Resenting or fighting against what has happened to you or because of you only brings additional misery onto the now, exasperating and adding more to resent and resist. Like pouring gasoline of regret onto a fire of unchangeable circumstances, we only unnecessarily intensify the flames." Just wooww!!!💯💯
Due to selfish fear, I allowed a family member to get hurt, which haunts me constantly. I wish that I had a time machine, to go back in time to save them from the danger that I saw coming. I know I can't change it, but the pain of knowing that I betrayed my own morals and selfishly allowed someone I love to get hurt due to my own cowardice, that's the worst pain I can imagine a person with a conscience carrying.
I believe that, if the individual is truly remorseful and desires to change their character to prevent further pain, then they deserve a second chance, no matter what they did or what their behavior was.
It's easy for me to say this and open myself to forgiving the worst of the worst, but for me, it's been a long, bumpy, chaotic, terrifying road to recovery. Of course, I'm not minimizing or downplaying the suffering of the person who was hurt, but I know that they do not need to feel guilt or shame, because it wasn't their fault whatsoever. Anybody would accept them, anybody would love them, and nobody would label them for it.
I do hope that, one day, I will be able to put all of this behind me and forgive myself for such a selfish act. Of course, keeping it a secret from those I love can't be helpful to my psyche, but them knowing also wouldn't be helpful to them. I'm not a danger to anyone and I didn't want what happened to happen. I just had information that would have prevented it, but was terrified about what would happen if I revealed it.
Life isn't black and white, nor is it linear. It's all so confusing, disturbing, but in the right light, those qualities can be seen as exciting and fill one with a sense of adventure. However, when you are shrouded by darkness all the time, you can't appreciate the darkness, just like a person who's had an easygoing life can't fully appreciate the light that surrounds them.
Yes, I casted myself into the darkness, but I do not wish nor deserve to live here forever, regardless of who I was, because who I am wants to become something even better than the past and present versions of myself.
I believe that life is like playing a game of chess with your future self, unknowingly trying to put your future self in checkmate. I believe I almost have, and there was a time where I thought I did, but as long as I still breathe, and as long as I'm allowed to be loved by even just one human on this planet, regardless of my past inaction that led to the hurting of one of my family members, then I am not in checkmate.
I guess my point with this rambling is this: I would love to be able to look at everything in my life, including what has been eating me for almost three years now, and be able to say that I love it all, that I'm content. Unfortunately, I can't see myself doing that anytime soon, but I do hope to achieve something like that one day.
Byron Katie - please check out her ‘work’. Pain is inevitable but suffering is optional/a choice. It’s not the snake bite that kills people, it’s the venom/poison. Forgiveness, is a beautiful thing, including forgiving oneself.
Everything that had happened leaded you to the present state of mind. The fact that you understand your mistakes and you feel guilt and shame about them - says a lot about your present self. It means you understand, you want to change and you already have changed. Your present self doesn’t need any suffering from the mistakes you made. You learnt your lesson, if you didn’t, you wouldn’t feel ashamed. You learnt and now it’s time to let go. You can’t change the past, but you can change your future. One day, when you ready, give your love to the past self and make a funeral for them. Sometimes when you go forward and let go you can’t keep dragging your past self with you, because it’s not you. And it doesn’t mean that you have to forget about your mistakes, no. You understood your lesson and now it’s time to prove to everyone that you have changed. Become the best version of yourself, act from the love and soul, and not from ego and mind. I believe, the person who was hurt by you, wouldn’t want you to suffer your whole life. You got this, we all got this. Without our mistakes, we wouldn’t be who we are today with the knowledge that can prevent from the same mistakes in the future.
A very beautiful Hindi song goes
"Barbaadiyon ka sog manana fizool tha..
Barbaadiyon ka jashn manaata chala gaya" 🤍
It means it is a waste to cry over your failures in life. Let us celebrate them instead.
All the words of the song are pure gold. Talks about acceptance and celebration and living life the way it is supposed to.
"I did what i did because i felt how i felt and it is what it is."
"Pain has hitherto advanced Mankind the furthest" -Friedrich Nietzsche
We get through the bad times in order to live through the good times... some people happen to have more bad times than good...
Amor fati is being practiced and preached by Muslim sufis for centuries like Rumi and Jami. Accepting your fate (good or bad) is a fundamental idea in Islam and that we will be rewarded for accepting it happily. It brings peace and harmony in life and everything looks beautiful.
gonna be watching this once a week, great video dude
I needed this to be a reinforcement in my ways of thinking. Thank you, from one human to another.
„A bottomless curse, a bottomless sea. Accepting of all that there is and can be.“
-Fishing Hamlet Priest / Bloodborne
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I constantly remind myself that “comparison is the thief of joy” - live YOUR life- don’t compare yourself, your accomplishments, you belongings to others- it will only sour your experience.
"This strange and awful time... was the happiest of my life."
-STATION ELEVEN Trailer
The mindset of amor fati is part of being a theist too...I am loved into existence by God with all its little particularities and strange uniqueness, with my strengths and weaknesses, struggles and achievements, victories and failures, stupidity and greatness, He has seen it all. And salvation is, when I accept God's radical acceptance of me, that creates that power within me to remain in myself and yet reach for the stars and keep alive the hope of final redemption, as a gift of grace, totally unearned and free.
Thanks for this. I needed to be reminded of the power of Nietsche and his heart ❤💙
"Yes - I love it." So timely in my life right now. Thank you so much, and thank you Nietzche! I'm launching research into your wisdom!