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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.พ. 2025
- Upgraded from 7800x3D to 9800x3D, currently running with -25 Curve Optimizer and +75mhz boost (5225mhz to 5300mhz), power draw is a bit higher than 7800x3D but temps are much lower. Performance seems to be roughly 15-20% better? Hard to tell without being able to benchmark properly
Also replaced my 43" QN90B (used to play 3840x1600/21:9) with a 55" S90C which I now use in 3840x1080/32:9, probably gonna suck to watch this on 16:9 displays so I might consider swapping to 21:9 for those CPU-test videos.
Hello Bruno, thank you for amazing showcase of FPS in GW2 on newest hardware. I have one question. What do you think, how would 9800x3d behave on 1080p resolution? Is it mandatory for me to go higher res for more FPS or 1080p would work just fine or worse, or even better than current fps you have in video?
Also, since it is lower resolution, would 7800x3d work just as good or is it significant upgrade for 9800x3d?
Currently i have 3700x and any of this two CPUs would be amazing performance upgrade.
My GPU is 6800xt, which i believe is more than enough.
Thank you again :)
Hey! No problem, decided to record some stuff since I didn't find any 9800x3D videos running GW2. About performance I'm running 3840x1080 on a RTX 4080 here, as long as your GPU is strong enough (6800XT for 1080p is more than enough) you can expect roughly the same performance I have, I'm 100% limited by CPU in those tests so even if I were to lower resolution to 720p I'd still have the same FPS as shown here, decreasing resolution (or GPU-bound settings like shaders and render sampling) would decrease GPU load but since I'm CPU-bottlenecked it wouldn't affect the framerate. If your CPU is good for let's say 200fps at 1080p then it's also good for 200fps at 4k/8k since the resolution itself won't make a difference for the CPU, for GW2 it's mostly charactel model quantity/quality (quantity more than quality) and shadows on ultra that are very CPU-heavy, some other settings might have some impact as well but also depends on the map/scenario quite a bit
6800XT should be fine for maxed 1440p and even 4k with good fps so in 1080p it won't even break a sweat most of the time, 7800x3D will be 15%~ less fps on average as long as you're CPU-bottlenecked which is still great (2nd best CPU in the world still), might be worth depending on the price difference and current stocks in your region but both will do great, 9800x3D still struggles in those extremely heavy scenarios with full maps and highest model quantity and 7800x3D will feel roughly the same, one would run at 25fps and the other at 30ish which in practice doesn't change the experience that much even if it's 15-20% better, dropping from highest to high or medium will give you a lot more performance than the CPU difference itself so if you want say >60fps at all times you'll need to reduce those settings in some cases no matter what CPU you choose, both are gonna be an huge upgrade coming from a 3700x!
Let me know if you'd like to see other events or specific graphic settings and I'll run it whenever I can, or even if you wanna clarify how to find out if you're GPU or CPU bottlenecked depending on the situation
@@randombullshithandle Thank you very much for the detailed explanation and all the information. I assume that in my case both CPUs would bring a significant performance improvement, but that neither one nor the other can push the game to the max. Maybe I should even wait for the 10800x3d iteration, if that's what it's called, so that I can be sure that it can do everything on ultra high. I wanted to upgrade my CPU solely for Guild Wars 2.
Once again, thank you very much for your effort and hard work :)
@@leeburidge Basically yeah, I'd expect the jump from 3700x to 7800x3D to be at least 50% better at all times, possibly almost twice as fast depending on the situation but it's hard to tell in GW2 since there's no benchmark to test consistently. Considering improvements are usually 15-20% per generation (2 years-ish), and that even the 9800x3D can drop to 25-30fps worst case, it'd still take probably 4-5 new generations (8-10 years) to maintain a minimum of 60fps no matter the situation, though that's mostly in those scenarios with >100~ players around and maxed model limit + ultra shadows, most of the time there's less people around and you'll likely always be at >150fps
That estimate (60fps min only in ~8 years) is also just based on what we usually see from gen to gen (15-20% improvement every 2 years), but maybe we'll have some breakthrough and they find out a way to increase performance significantly more than that, even if only for a single generation, X3D CPUs weren't a thing until they suddenly were so fingers crossed engineers figure out something else that's interesting and viable!
But yeah, even the 7800x3D will perform amazing overall, and even X3D CPUs from >5 years from now might not be up to the task in the case of highest model limit + ultra shadows and steady 60fps as a minimum, though if you don't mind dropping to the 30fps range every now and then (only huge events with almost full map basically) the 7800x3D can handle it pretty well, in WvW I've heard it performs even better, seems like WvW uses standard player models so it probably reduces CPU load by a good bit
@@randombullshithandle WvW is content i play the most and for me it is crucial that it has no stuttering at high levels. It is pretty much the only content i want to see going ultra. Everything else is not needed. But in that case, i guess 9800x3d would be amazing in WvW.
@@leeburidge Oh yeah, some people on Reddit tested on WvW with good results but no idea how many people were around when they tested, sadly I don't do WvW but if it's standard models it probably helps quite a bit, worst case I'd reduce shadows a bit (even if not the best solution) if model limit must stay at highest at all times, but 9800x3D will for sure perform amazing, coming from a 3700x I'd expect roughly double the CPU performance, so as long as your GPU can keep up, checking your min/avg fps and doubling that should give a rough estimate on what you can expect
As for stutters, FPS can drop a good bit when there's too many players/skills on screen but as to stutters I can't really say I get any on GW2, gameplay-wise was always pretty smooth, only real stutter I get atm is when opening/interacting with a banker, there used to be a consistent stutter when closing the Hero panel with the equipment tab selected but since sept/2024 or so it's gone here, banker stutter still happens, no other stutters I've noticed during actual gameplay