Great idea with using liquid tape. That stuff works great and is rated to 600v believe it or not. Although it's a bit soft and easily damaged. Thanks for sharing and covering these motors. 👍👍
Most of the fake motors are the sensorless ones. they are so precise that it is actually hard to tell. that is why I decided to buy the Sensored one since you can still use it in a sensorless mode
Hi I know this is an old vid, but I bought an older motor. I have a 1410-y. But I don’t see a sensor input. Did they make some of these sensor-less? I don’t think it’s a fake. It came with a sidewinder and I bought it from my friend. I’ve also seen my motor(without sensor input) as stock photos on some hoppy shop pages.
the 1410 has been around for a really long time. The first versions were sensorless. This video was made around trhe time of the launch of the 'new' sensored versions. I still have a couple sensorless 1410s and they are still great performers. 🤩
@@RCPhysicsAwesome news. My friend gave me a new hobbywing 10BL60 quick run. Do you think that will work okay? It’s just a stampede with an aluminum gearbox I use to bash around and do a few laps at the dirt track. It is a sensor ESC, but the manual says it can run a sensorless motor fine.
I'm not sure which washer you are referring to. If you are on Facebook, you can post a picture in my RC Physics Sandbox Group and I can help you figure this out. facebook.com/groups/804281383082531
Hey bro I bought one of these after watching your video and I have a problem. I wanted to put it in my tamiya rc but the pinion shaft is too big for the pinions I have. Do these fit in tamiya?
I believe Tamiyas mostly use 48p gears, which I use on a lot of my castle powered models. However, a lot of Castle 1:10 scale motors come with 2 shaft options, a "standard" 1/8" (3.17mm) shaft and a "beefier" 5mm shaft option. Did you order a 5mm shaft by mistake? If you did order a 5mm motor, there's a pretty simple solution. You can get pinions that will fit the 5mm shaft at most good RC shopping sites. For example, here is a variety pack of gears on Amazon for ~$15. amzn.to/3qjx8sB I hope this helps.
One nice thing about the new Motors is that you have the option to do things like this. In the past you were stuck with the stock wires no matter what.
So they clam to be waterproof. But are they? The sensor port is wide open. I am going to put dielectric grease in it and some waterproof gorilla tape over it.
You are correct. The ESC & motors are waterproof, but the connectors need to be protected. Dielectric grease with an outer protector layer is a great solution.
Just got a sidewinder sct sensored 14 series 1410-3800 kv four pole and I was wondering were to plug the wire in on the esc???? And help on turning lipo cut off Off., thanks for motor update
Hunter Henderson, Me too. But, just discovered the esc IS NOT sensored capable, so there is no input for the cable on the esc. My combo came with the sensored motor but not the sensored capable esc. Kinda weird.
Sorry to break this to you, but the sidewinder is NOT a sensored capable ESC. You need a Mamba X to use the sensored capability. You CAN run it sensorless, but it sounds like you really wanted to use the sensored features.
Castle has discontinued most of their non sensored motors, but the sensored motors will work just like a non-sensored (normal) motor, which is why Castle is selling them with their Sidewinder combos now. It is kinda weird, but it actually does make sense. You can always upgrade to a sensored ESC later if you want the extra control or data logging.
Great Vid! How do you get the bearings out of these sensorless motors? I want to put ceramic bearings in my new 1410 motor but when I take it apart it seems that the bearings are frozen (glued?) into the holes. Any advise is appreciated.
I've heard of a few methods, but I would hate to tell you the wrong thing and have you damage your motor. I would suggest calling Castle Tech Support. The guys on there are great and they will be able to give you the best info. Their phone number is 1-913-390-6939.
I looked up this car on AMain. I think a 1410 would probably do really well, but the stock gear ratio is pretty high for 3800kv motor. The stock motor for that car probably gave you a top speed of ~30-40 mph with stock gearing, so you'll probably have to go to a lower ratio to be able to use the motor's full rpm range... unless you are cool with the idea of a 50-60 mph basher. ;-) That said, the 1410 should do fine. This car looks pretty close in size to a Traxxas Slash 4x4 / Rally platform which does really well with the1410s. Just be aware, the 1410 can pull a lot of current, so you may end up overheating your ESC if you don't step down the gearing. If that does happen, you may consider stepping up to a Castle Mamba X or Sidewinder 4 ESC.
just a question I have a tamiya tt01 and was looking at getting a catle as well....1/10 scale...I hear 5700kv is about the limit for my car so im asking is the 1402 or 1405 right for size...standard shaft as well???...Thanks...I am running 3s with a 9t leopard 60A esc...
OK, I think you are actually thinking of the 1410 vs. the 1406. The 1410 is really more suited tor the larger Short Course Truck, Buggy, Rustler, class of vehicles. It's a torque monster and does really well throwing those big cars around. The 1406 is a little shorter (so it has a little less power potential), but it is still more than enough for a 1/10 scale on-road. It's available in a wide range of kv values, but they are all intended to produce about the same amount of power. The version you need for your care really is driven by how fast you'd like to go and the range of gearing choices you want. I think 5700kv is a good choice for that car, but may speed runners like even higher kv motor so they can get by with smaller spur gears. What type pf running do you do? speedruns, racing, drifting? Your driving style might actually be the biggest factor in your decision.
Lets say for the most part...I like to drive my car around...its my lil street car...but on the real I drag race it and I do speed runs...To find one that fits like right in the middle would be great my gearing is 25t pin and a 55t spur...i hear somewhere there is a AV type 26t pin but have not found it yet but im good with the gearing in it now seems like its enough gear...lol...
I'm about to replace the sensorless 5700kv 1406 in my Apex with one of the new sensored motors (when they gets back in stock). It is a VERY capable motor and took this little guy to 60+ mph on 3S with stock gears without breaking a sweat.
kool last question...i have a goolrc 80A esc with the program card on order...i dont plan on 4s running but just to have good room do you think that would be kool or just get the mamba pro...lol
I'm cheap by nature. I LOVE Castle ESCs, but if the one you have is working, you probably don't need to replace it unless you have a good reason. However, if you want to use a new sensored motor and get the full range of performance, you will need a sensored-capable ESC, like the Mamba Max Pro of Mamba X..
Question, I have a Castel motor that has a sensored port, but my esc does not have the sensoreing capabilities (hobbywing) is there in problem with this type of setup?
So the sensored motor is not requirement and it’s just an additional thing. And also I can wire the sensored motor any way into the sensor less esc without messing it up?
It really depends on your track, how you drive and how you like to tune, I would hate to give you bad advice, so I would advise you to call Castle directly at (913) 390-6939. Their tech line is very knowledgeable and will help you pick the right motor for your application. Thanks for the comment!
I have a sensored 3800kv castle 1410 motor with a sidewinder sct esc but it says “Sensored capabilities of the motor cannot be utilized with the Sidewinder SCT” what does this mean? Am I able to run the combo safely and do I still need to wire the motor to the esc by the A B C like a sensored system
You can use any of the new Sensored Castle motor with a "normal" ESC and they will work just fine. However, they do not have the circuitry to sense the rotor position, meaning you won't get the Silky-Smooth take offs and super low-speed crawling capability that comes with the Sensored operational mode. Your Sidewinder will still KICK with that motor, though. Sensored operation is really cool, but honestly, a not of bashers don't really need the low speed control it provides. This is why Castle still offers the combo you bought. It's still a REALLY GOOD setup.
The Rustler manual says 28/83 gearing should get you ~45 mph on a 8.4V (2S) pack with the stock Velineon system . I'd recommend starting there since the Castle 3800kv motor is only 300kv more than the stock system. Watch your Motor and ESC temps. They will tell you if your car can handle more gearing once you get used to this power level.
rhouse21 - RC Physics I got rid of the velineon system cos running it on 25/83 FOR 3 MINUTES on very flat grass not even full throttle on a mid warm day, the velineon was up to 170f IN JUST 3 MINUTES, I set the gear mesh properly I was using stock size tyres
Grass is tough because you get a lot of wheel spin, so the motor ends up running up to pretty high RPMs really quickly. The castle motor should be ok up to 180-200F though so have fun! Let me know how it works out!
@@99thpeanut59 yes its B version with ESC and actually i have both the one without fins runs much cooler than the original in my opinion running 17t and 44g both 32p
Hi, I have a 9000kv motor for a rustler.Being the kv is so high, what gearing would you recommend and any idea what sort of speed it can achieve in a Rusty?? Thanks man
I'd be really careful aboiut trying to use that motor for a speed run. 1406 series motors are probably good for 60-70 mph based on their max safe power output, but such a high kv running speed gears could mull more current thatn the ESC can safely provide which may blow the motor and/or ESC. A 9000kv motor is also "only" rated for 100 krpm, so you have to be careful not ot over-rev it on 3S. (12V * 9,000kv = 108,000 rpm) This could shred the rotor if you exceed 100krpm for too long A 3800kv 1410 motor could probably be a better choice since it has a higher overall power output can handle a lot more current. I've seen that motor achieve 90+ mph in a parallel 3S battery equipped Rustler.
1406 is actually the series number of the motor. The first 2 digits of Castle motors tell the "can" diameter in inches. I believe the last two tell the magnet length on the rotor. My Sensored 1406 motor is 5700kv which should put this car well over 100 mph later this summer.
The sensored 1480 3800kv standard shaft will go into my Slash 4x4 basher, so that should be a TON of fun to toss around. The sensored 1480 3800kv 5mm shaft is going into the Speed-Rustler, so that should be a load of fun, too.
Thanks for watching. Here's a link to a video I did showing some things to look out for. Of course, all the fakes mirror the older sensorless Castle designs. It's too expensive to fake the new sensored motors (for now). th-cam.com/video/qcQTYa9hIEg/w-d-xo.html
My 1415 2400kv motor is the older in-sensored version. I like it, but it's kind of a strange motor for my fleet. I've been running most of my "1/10" scale cars on 3S, but this motor really needs at least 4S to really start to come into it's own because of it's lower kv. It felt plenty strong on 3S, but my cars are pretty light, so I don't think I really was able to tap into the extra performance potential. Also, you have to run some pretty tall gears to get the wheel rpms high enough to get the car ripping at the same level as a higher 3800kv 1410. I'll be doing some 4S and higher runs with this motor soon, so we'll see how the extra voltage wakes up this setup.
rhouse21 - RC Physics I was going to turn my slash 4x4 into a monster so I'm not looking for speed but I want some. So i was going to put the 2400 with tall gears. But is it ok for a 2400 kv with tall gearing run some proline 2.8 badlands mk28 and steel drive shafts?
It should be fine. I've actually built 2 Monster Slashes. My first was actually a few years ago before it was really a "thing". This one used a Castle 1410 3800kv motor / Sidewinder 3 ESC combo which handled big tires just fine. th-cam.com/video/hr5VeeiF1jo/w-d-xo.html The most recent is Project Skar, which is using a 1512 2650kv motor / Mamba X ESC . This is probably overkill, but it seems REALLY happy. Video 1 (the build): th-cam.com/video/C-pcPXNnfXU/w-d-xo.html Video 2 (reveal) : th-cam.com/video/Vhu8qiDlkl0/w-d-xo.html The 1415 2400kv is in the middle of these two in power, which would be more than enough to make a VERY happy Monster Slash. I would definitely recommend a Mamba X or MMX as your ESC for their high capacity and sensored motor capability. I've really fallen in love with the ability to drive a really powerful car really, really slowly. I haven't quite crossed over to the crawler-side, but seeing a "big wheeled" Slash go delicately weaving through a rock field to doing backflips within a couple of milliseconds is pretty sexy. ;-) The un-sensored Sidewinder 8th would probably work well, too ....although the new Sidewinder 4 (which is also un-sensored) may be able to handle it given all its upgrades beyond the SV3. These ESCs would probably be a LOT of fun, but would not be able to give you the low speed precision.
Not really.... They are strong motors, but they can't take the punishment of a real Castle. Keep us posted, though. I'm curious what you think after running it for a while.
That's the thing. These motors give us all the power we know and love from Castle, but add the ability to drive slow and smooth. I think they could just about cure cogging in "highly over-geared" setups like we speed runners use and could take a lot of stress off of our power systems.
rhouse21 - RC Physics Makes sense to me...i look forward to your test to see how they perform in one of your speed projects...one thing about it...u can't ever go wrong with Castle..
hey buddy really liked the video and am looking forward to more. I have the castle 1515 2200kv sensored I just bought yesterday and am looking forward to running the piss out of it in my arm outcast aswell as my tekno mt410 😎😎👍👍😀😀
Hey great video I have 4 Castle units and two separate 1/8 motors 2650kv an1800kv two sidewinder 3's a sidewinder 8th and also a sidewinder SCT. I've had them about 1 1/2 yrs. and they still work great.(Knock on Wood) . I'll be getting the Mamba X Sensored setup. Can't wait, the vids are very informative and helped me to understanding the differences of the newer units. Stay Good Stay Safe. RC Medi
Great idea with using liquid tape. That stuff works great and is rated to 600v believe it or not. Although it's a bit soft and easily damaged. Thanks for sharing and covering these motors. 👍👍
My pleasure! Thanks for watching. 😎
Most of the fake motors are the sensorless ones. they are so precise that it is actually hard to tell. that is why I decided to buy the Sensored one since you can still use it in a sensorless mode
Very true. Great point!
Hi I know this is an old vid, but I bought an older motor. I have a 1410-y. But I don’t see a sensor input. Did they make some of these sensor-less? I don’t think it’s a fake. It came with a sidewinder and I bought it from my friend. I’ve also seen my motor(without sensor input) as stock photos on some hoppy shop pages.
the 1410 has been around for a really long time. The first versions were sensorless. This video was made around trhe time of the launch of the 'new' sensored versions. I still have a couple sensorless 1410s and they are still great performers. 🤩
@@RCPhysicsAwesome news. My friend gave me a new hobbywing 10BL60 quick run. Do you think that will work okay? It’s just a stampede with an aluminum gearbox I use to bash around and do a few laps at the dirt track. It is a sensor ESC, but the manual says it can run a sensorless motor fine.
Sensored motors will run fine sensorless. You will lose the low-end precision/control, but you probably won't miss that doing dirt track racing. 😎
@@RCPhysicscool! Dude you got me stoaked! I’m excited to get my old badger running again
@bassist21685 Let me know how it works out!
Where does the washer go in my 3800 KV 1410 Castle creation motor
I'm not sure which washer you are referring to. If you are on Facebook, you can post a picture in my RC Physics Sandbox Group and I can help you figure this out. facebook.com/groups/804281383082531
Hey bro I bought one of these after watching your video and I have a problem. I wanted to put it in my tamiya rc but the pinion shaft is too big for the pinions I have. Do these fit in tamiya?
I believe Tamiyas mostly use 48p gears, which I use on a lot of my castle powered models. However, a lot of Castle 1:10 scale motors come with 2 shaft options, a "standard" 1/8" (3.17mm) shaft and a "beefier" 5mm shaft option. Did you order a 5mm shaft by mistake?
If you did order a 5mm motor, there's a pretty simple solution. You can get pinions that will fit the 5mm shaft at most good RC shopping sites. For example, here is a variety pack of gears on Amazon for ~$15. amzn.to/3qjx8sB
I hope this helps.
@rhouse21 - RC Physics Hey bro I figured it out last week and yes I had to get the 5mm hole pinions and its running great!! Thanks
The 13awg wires of the 14series of motors are weak. I soldered 12awg on my 3800kv 1410... Much better and durable.
One nice thing about the new Motors is that you have the option to do things like this. In the past you were stuck with the stock wires no matter what.
Thanks for update..
Thanks for watching!
So they clam to be waterproof. But are they? The sensor port is wide open. I am going to put dielectric grease in it and some waterproof gorilla tape over it.
You are correct. The ESC & motors are waterproof, but the connectors need to be protected. Dielectric grease with an outer protector layer is a great solution.
@@RCPhysics ok thank you . Wonder why they didn't put a waterproof cap on it .
That is a great idea. I will pass it on!
Just got a sidewinder sct sensored 14 series 1410-3800 kv four pole and I was wondering were to plug the wire in on the esc???? And help on turning lipo cut off Off., thanks for motor update
Hunter Henderson,
Me too. But, just discovered the esc IS NOT sensored capable, so there is no input for the cable on the esc. My combo came with the sensored motor but not the sensored capable esc. Kinda weird.
Sorry to break this to you, but the sidewinder is NOT a sensored capable ESC. You need a Mamba X to use the sensored capability. You CAN run it sensorless, but it sounds like you really wanted to use the sensored features.
Castle has discontinued most of their non sensored motors, but the sensored motors will work just like a non-sensored (normal) motor, which is why Castle is selling them with their Sidewinder combos now. It is kinda weird, but it actually does make sense. You can always upgrade to a sensored ESC later if you want the extra control or data logging.
Great Vid! How do you get the bearings out of these sensorless motors? I want to put ceramic bearings in my new 1410 motor but when I take it apart it seems that the bearings are frozen (glued?) into the holes. Any advise is appreciated.
I've heard of a few methods, but I would hate to tell you the wrong thing and have you damage your motor. I would suggest calling Castle Tech Support. The guys on there are great and they will be able to give you the best info. Their phone number is 1-913-390-6939.
rhouse21 - RC Physics Thank you
I have a kyosho drx with blown original Orion motor, do you think a 1410 would do well with original Orion esc on 3s?
Thanks!
I looked up this car on AMain. I think a 1410 would probably do really well, but the stock gear ratio is pretty high for 3800kv motor. The stock motor for that car probably gave you a top speed of ~30-40 mph with stock gearing, so you'll probably have to go to a lower ratio to be able to use the motor's full rpm range... unless you are cool with the idea of a 50-60 mph basher. ;-)
That said, the 1410 should do fine. This car looks pretty close in size to a Traxxas Slash 4x4 / Rally platform which does really well with the1410s. Just be aware, the 1410 can pull a lot of current, so you may end up overheating your ESC if you don't step down the gearing. If that does happen, you may consider stepping up to a Castle Mamba X or Sidewinder 4 ESC.
rhouse21 - RC Physics thanks for a really nice answer, thumbs up!!
just a question I have a tamiya tt01 and was looking at getting a catle as well....1/10 scale...I hear 5700kv is about the limit for my car so im asking is the 1402 or 1405 right for size...standard shaft as well???...Thanks...I am running 3s with a 9t leopard 60A esc...
OK, I think you are actually thinking of the 1410 vs. the 1406. The 1410 is really more suited tor the larger Short Course Truck, Buggy, Rustler, class of vehicles. It's a torque monster and does really well throwing those big cars around.
The 1406 is a little shorter (so it has a little less power potential), but it is still more than enough for a 1/10 scale on-road. It's available in a wide range of kv values, but they are all intended to produce about the same amount of power. The version you need for your care really is driven by how fast you'd like to go and the range of gearing choices you want. I think 5700kv is a good choice for that car, but may speed runners like even higher kv motor so they can get by with smaller spur gears.
What type pf running do you do? speedruns, racing, drifting? Your driving style might actually be the biggest factor in your decision.
Lets say for the most part...I like to drive my car around...its my lil street car...but on the real I drag race it and I do speed runs...To find one that fits like right in the middle would be great my gearing is 25t pin and a 55t spur...i hear somewhere there is a AV type 26t pin but have not found it yet but im good with the gearing in it now seems like its enough gear...lol...
I'm about to replace the sensorless 5700kv 1406 in my Apex with one of the new sensored motors (when they gets back in stock). It is a VERY capable motor and took this little guy to 60+ mph on 3S with stock gears without breaking a sweat.
kool last question...i have a goolrc 80A esc with the program card on order...i dont plan on 4s running but just to have good room do you think that would be kool or just get the mamba pro...lol
I'm cheap by nature. I LOVE Castle ESCs, but if the one you have is working, you probably don't need to replace it unless you have a good reason. However, if you want to use a new sensored motor and get the full range of performance, you will need a sensored-capable ESC, like the Mamba Max Pro of Mamba X..
Question, I have a Castel motor that has a sensored port, but my esc does not have the sensoreing capabilities (hobbywing) is there in problem with this type of setup?
No problem at all. The ESC will just detect it just like a "normal" brushless motor,
Thank I felt like that also, but I had to check with a trusted source. You.
I feel ya, like the solder work is top notch on the motor, but I would rather have it protected with a cover, that's just me.
Yeah. I'm just paranoid in that way. 😜
So the sensored motor is not requirement and it’s just an additional thing. And also I can wire the sensored motor any way into the sensor less esc without messing it up?
Yup! And if you plug everything up and the motor spins in the wrong direction, just swap 2 wires.
rhouse21 - RC Physics thank u soooo much
Im new to R/C racing. I have a Team Associated RC10 T4.2, what would be the best Castle combo to get the most speed out of this car?
It really depends on your track, how you drive and how you like to tune, I would hate to give you bad advice, so I would advise you to call Castle directly at (913) 390-6939. Their tech line is very knowledgeable and will help you pick the right motor for your application.
Thanks for the comment!
I have a sensored 3800kv castle 1410 motor with a sidewinder sct esc but it says “Sensored capabilities of the motor cannot be utilized with the Sidewinder SCT” what does this mean? Am I able to run the combo safely and do I still need to wire the motor to the esc by the A B C like a sensored system
You can use any of the new Sensored Castle motor with a "normal" ESC and they will work just fine. However, they do not have the circuitry to sense the rotor position, meaning you won't get the Silky-Smooth take offs and super low-speed crawling capability that comes with the Sensored operational mode.
Your Sidewinder will still KICK with that motor, though.
Sensored operation is really cool, but honestly, a not of bashers don't really need the low speed control it provides. This is why Castle still offers the combo you bought. It's still a REALLY GOOD setup.
rhouse21 - RC Physics thanks so much, I finally have an answer. Also i don’t really care for getting a silky smooth start though! Thanks for your help
Hey are you going to the Run DMV today? Want to see your new set up...
I wish I could be there, but I have a personal commitment. :-( Don't worry, I'll be at later events.
ok cool ..Thanks for update Bro
Have u did a speed run with any of the combos u have
Videos coming soon. ;-)
What hearing should I use with the castle sidewinder sct with 3800kv motor in my Rustler vxl
It really depends on how you plan to run. Bashing, racing, and speed running will all end up with different optimal gearing. What are your goals?
rhouse21 - RC Physics I do about 20% on road 30% grass and 50% dirt gravel bashing
I will use a 2s lipo which should get around 45mph
The Rustler manual says 28/83 gearing should get you ~45 mph on a 8.4V (2S) pack with the stock Velineon system . I'd recommend starting there since the Castle 3800kv motor is only 300kv more than the stock system. Watch your Motor and ESC temps. They will tell you if your car can handle more gearing once you get used to this power level.
rhouse21 - RC Physics I got rid of the velineon system cos running it on 25/83 FOR 3 MINUTES on very flat grass not even full throttle on a mid warm day, the velineon was up to 170f IN JUST 3 MINUTES, I set the gear mesh properly I was using stock size tyres
Grass is tough because you get a lot of wheel spin, so the motor ends up running up to pretty high RPMs really quickly. The castle motor should be ok up to 180-200F though so have fun!
Let me know how it works out!
Does the new 2200 have no cooling fins?
It does. Click the link to jump to a shot in the video where you can see them better. th-cam.com/video/P6Kw__EifqQ/w-d-xo.html
@@RCPhysics bought one but has no fins on it its solid with logo on the side for the 1515-2200ky but same size can do you think its a fake?
Can you post a picture in the RC Physics Sandbox on Facebook? It may be an older version if it's used. Some of those didn't have find.
@@99thpeanut59 is there a difference in cooling rate ?
@@99thpeanut59 yes its B version with ESC and actually i have both the one without fins runs much cooler than the original in my opinion running 17t and 44g both 32p
Hi, I have a 9000kv motor for a rustler.Being the kv is so high, what gearing would you recommend and any idea what sort of speed it can achieve in a Rusty??
Thanks man
I'd be really careful aboiut trying to use that motor for a speed run. 1406 series motors are probably good for 60-70 mph based on their max safe power output, but such a high kv running speed gears could mull more current thatn the ESC can safely provide which may blow the motor and/or ESC. A 9000kv motor is also "only" rated for 100 krpm, so you have to be careful not ot over-rev it on 3S. (12V * 9,000kv = 108,000 rpm) This could shred the rotor if you exceed 100krpm for too long
A 3800kv 1410 motor could probably be a better choice since it has a higher overall power output can handle a lot more current. I've seen that motor achieve 90+ mph in a parallel 3S battery equipped Rustler.
Sorry another quick question, how did u find the Awanfi lipos to be?
@@rionnsrcchannel6769Sorry. I don't have any experience with those LiPos.
Nice review man. keep up the good work.
Thanks!
How fast does the (1406kV) 600 go
1406 is actually the series number of the motor. The first 2 digits of Castle motors tell the "can" diameter in inches. I believe the last two tell the magnet length on the rotor. My Sensored 1406 motor is 5700kv which should put this car well over 100 mph later this summer.
Nice Motor Mini-Review brother. good work.Big thumbs up!
Thanks, Bro!
awesome review.... can't wait to see you try these motors out ..... I'm especially curious about the 3800kv. thanks for keeping up with the times.
The sensored 1480 3800kv standard shaft will go into my Slash 4x4 basher, so that should be a TON of fun to toss around. The sensored 1480 3800kv 5mm shaft is going into the Speed-Rustler, so that should be a load of fun, too.
I have a few of the 1410 sensord motors and a 1512 sensord
I love mine!
rhouse21 - RC Physics me too man
Whoa hold on a minute how do you determine what's a fake castle and what's a real castle?
Thanks for watching. Here's a link to a video I did showing some things to look out for. Of course, all the fakes mirror the older sensorless Castle designs. It's too expensive to fake the new sensored motors (for now).
th-cam.com/video/qcQTYa9hIEg/w-d-xo.html
Haha I'll take one of em haha
LOL!
rhouse21 - RC Physics how is the 2400kv?
My 1415 2400kv motor is the older in-sensored version. I like it, but it's kind of a strange motor for my fleet. I've been running most of my "1/10" scale cars on 3S, but this motor really needs at least 4S to really start to come into it's own because of it's lower kv. It felt plenty strong on 3S, but my cars are pretty light, so I don't think I really was able to tap into the extra performance potential. Also, you have to run some pretty tall gears to get the wheel rpms high enough to get the car ripping at the same level as a higher 3800kv 1410.
I'll be doing some 4S and higher runs with this motor soon, so we'll see how the extra voltage wakes up this setup.
rhouse21 - RC Physics I was going to turn my slash 4x4 into a monster so I'm not looking for speed but I want some. So i was going to put the 2400 with tall gears. But is it ok for a 2400 kv with tall gearing run some proline 2.8 badlands mk28 and steel drive shafts?
It should be fine. I've actually built 2 Monster Slashes. My first was actually a few years ago before it was really a "thing". This one used a Castle 1410 3800kv motor / Sidewinder 3 ESC combo which handled big tires just fine. th-cam.com/video/hr5VeeiF1jo/w-d-xo.html
The most recent is Project Skar, which is using a 1512 2650kv motor / Mamba X ESC . This is probably overkill, but it seems REALLY happy.
Video 1 (the build): th-cam.com/video/C-pcPXNnfXU/w-d-xo.html
Video 2 (reveal) : th-cam.com/video/Vhu8qiDlkl0/w-d-xo.html
The 1415 2400kv is in the middle of these two in power, which would be more than enough to make a VERY happy Monster Slash. I would definitely recommend a Mamba X or MMX as your ESC for their high capacity and sensored motor capability. I've really fallen in love with the ability to drive a really powerful car really, really slowly. I haven't quite crossed over to the crawler-side, but seeing a "big wheeled" Slash go delicately weaving through a rock field to doing backflips within a couple of milliseconds is pretty sexy. ;-)
The un-sensored Sidewinder 8th would probably work well, too ....although the new Sidewinder 4 (which is also un-sensored) may be able to handle it given all its upgrades beyond the SV3. These ESCs would probably be a LOT of fun, but would not be able to give you the low speed precision.
I'm buying the China knock-off it's just as good it's on eBay for $40
Not really.... They are strong motors, but they can't take the punishment of a real Castle. Keep us posted, though. I'm curious what you think after running it for a while.
looks like s bunch of good rock crawling motors...
That's the thing. These motors give us all the power we know and love from Castle, but add the ability to drive slow and smooth. I think they could just about cure cogging in "highly over-geared" setups like we speed runners use and could take a lot of stress off of our power systems.
rhouse21 - RC Physics Makes sense to me...i look forward to your test to see how they perform in one of your speed projects...one thing about it...u can't ever go wrong with Castle..
hey buddy really liked the video and am looking forward to more. I have the castle 1515 2200kv sensored I just bought yesterday and am looking forward to running the piss out of it in my arm outcast aswell as my tekno mt410 😎😎👍👍😀😀
Hey great video I have 4 Castle units and two separate 1/8 motors 2650kv an1800kv two sidewinder 3's a sidewinder 8th and also a sidewinder SCT. I've had them about 1 1/2 yrs. and they still work great.(Knock on Wood) . I'll be getting the Mamba X Sensored setup. Can't wait, the vids are very informative and helped me to understanding the differences of the newer units. Stay Good Stay Safe. RC Medi
I can't hear you because of that stupid music playing.Why would you play music the whole time you're trying to talk?
I've improved the audio mix in later videos. Sorry 'bout that.