Overall, the weapon feels as poor as it always did, When comparing with the las fusil; - It's less forgiving, much easier to miss shots - Weaker damage - Worse at killing minoris / swarms - Ammo efficiency is much worse (you have to take more shots + las fusil refills when getting a multikill, which is always when shooting into a group) Basically the weapon is worse in every sense still, i was hoping the 12.5% damage increase would've been the difference between 3 shotting to 2 shotting majoris, but alas, it is not the case.
I was worried after i saw 12,5% buff that it wouldn’t be enough. And unfortunately it is true. Las fusel just better and way ahead in every parameter. And it’s sucks
Las fusil cloak spamming sniper still wins out, so I'd like if bolty would has more ammo and gain damage if close by. Then you could choose between far and close sniper for ops. As is, just bring las fusil for lethal still. Sniper on lethal goes crazy with min/max build.
They would need to give this weapon a special perk to make it competitive with the Las Fusil. Having weapon-specific perks in class perk trees is awkward imo, not just for the Sniper. It almost forces you to use certain weapons.
@@benleeper332 If they just added a column in class perk trees specific to the weapons that class uses it would be a better solution. Having only one decent or almost mandatory weapon perk like restore ammo on multi kill for example is too good to pass up that it doesn't make you want to use anything else.
Honestly the perks are ok they could be slightly better it just needs like triple the headshot multiplier to feel viable. The rounds also need less gravity drop and faster speed
Having to headshot a majoris 2-4 times to kill it feels really bad and inefficient as a sniper. Especially when ammo is so limited. Bolt Sniper weapons should have some kind of feature to bypass the red execution state and just kill.
Just wondering why Saber is so stingy towards the iconic Bolter series of weapons. Is it not weird that a game that revolves around WH40K Space Marines has near to nobody using Bolter weapons, except the Heavy. You have mad skills and reflexes, and it hurts to see that you are specifically trying to showcase the weapon but it is practically useless 90% of the time and it was your dagger, pistol and skills that led to the win. To be honest, considering how stingy they are with ammo, this should be a 1 single headshot into executing for Majoris, or 3 body shots. So apparently what it needed is 125% damage buff, not 12.5%. Then again the sweatlords will cry. Oh what dilemma.
I think they rolled out these incremental buffs to see how much it would affect the bolters. They’ll probably buff them further later. Think about it this way, if Saber buffed them super massively to the point of becoming superior to the other weapons then they’ll just have to nerf them later which would make everyone upset.
i agree this weapon is useless compared to the las fusil i think it needs 3 things to be as good bigger magazine higher fire rate for every variant way more max ammo capacity same with stalker bolter really, bolter should have less damage overall than laser and plasma guns but should be way more convenient/easy to use and they just feel mechanicly the same but with way less damage when compared...
The moment it took ya 4 shots to get a regular Majoris enemy down to red ( 2:32 for those that wanna see for themselves) I knew it was still not worth grinding out. I was grinding out both the sniper rifle and the Las Fusil and It was like trying to compare a nerf gun to a real gun so I stuck to fully grinding out Las Fusil and ditched the Sniper Rifle.
I mained this over las initially as i preferred the instant shot vs charge but it just didnt feel good at all on ruthless, i still miss shots with Las due to charge but i prefer it by a mile
What's funny is the Las Fusil still does 2x the damage... and the new patch somehow broke it with healing. I played two Lethal runs with Sniper yesterday and the Las Fusil randomly healed me to full multiple times (no Bulwark on team). I'm not sure what exactly caused that but it's certainly not intended behaviour.
I mained and played this weapon from release onwards, did all mission on t5 with it on release day (4 deaths and knocks, flawlessed 5 maps) and the thing with the bolt sniper is that makes it more appealing for me than las fusil is that i always go aggressive. Most games im top melee and ranged damage. I go full force close range and hitting a headshot after every parry before your pistolstrike in quick succession ist just superior in a gameplay perspective. Yes Las Fusil is a better Sniper, but Bolt Sniper can be played like a slug shotgun, and thats a lot of fun and insanely viable.
I hadnt played the Sniper until now, post 4.0 and 4.1, and my god, theres a playstyle thats afforded to the Carbine and Stalker, but why the hell would anyone use the sniper instead of the Las Fusil? its SO much better damage wise, ammo efficiency, ease of use and can actually damage the Bio-Titan. Either the rifle needs to be seriously buffed further to make it more appealing, or there needs to be weapon perks tat bring it up to the Fusils level either in its own tree or the in the class tree.
I was excited and leveled it up and its booty. To even start to compete with the fusil it would need to one shot into execute majoris. The lack of add clear is such a huge downside that it isn't worth taking simply based on that.
I’d say heavy bolt rifle felt much better than before patch. It now downs majoris much faster and has a good add clear. Standard bolt rifle and Stalker always was fine
Overall, the weapon feels as poor as it always did,
When comparing with the las fusil;
- It's less forgiving, much easier to miss shots
- Weaker damage
- Worse at killing minoris / swarms
- Ammo efficiency is much worse (you have to take more shots + las fusil refills when getting a multikill, which is always when shooting into a group)
Basically the weapon is worse in every sense still, i was hoping the 12.5% damage increase would've been the difference between 3 shotting to 2 shotting majoris, but alas, it is not the case.
I was worried after i saw 12,5% buff that it wouldn’t be enough. And unfortunately it is true. Las fusel just better and way ahead in every parameter. And it’s sucks
Las fusil cloak spamming sniper still wins out, so I'd like if bolty would has more ammo and gain damage if close by. Then you could choose between far and close sniper for ops. As is, just bring las fusil for lethal still. Sniper on lethal goes crazy with min/max build.
They would need to give this weapon a special perk to make it competitive with the Las Fusil. Having weapon-specific perks in class perk trees is awkward imo, not just for the Sniper. It almost forces you to use certain weapons.
This is big time understated. Base damage isn’t everything.
@@benleeper332 If they just added a column in class perk trees specific to the weapons that class uses it would be a better solution. Having only one decent or almost mandatory weapon perk like restore ammo on multi kill for example is too good to pass up that it doesn't make you want to use anything else.
Honestly the perks are ok they could be slightly better it just needs like triple the headshot multiplier to feel viable. The rounds also need less gravity drop and faster speed
Agreed.....unless The damage is obscenely higher than other guns@@benleeper332
and it sucks because it makes you not want to change your loadout during a mission
Las Fusil have roughly the same ammo reserve but double the damage. No reason to use Bolt Sniper except quickscoping.
Those useless spread perks should become ammo perks
Having to headshot a majoris 2-4 times to kill it feels really bad and inefficient as a sniper. Especially when ammo is so limited. Bolt Sniper weapons should have some kind of feature to bypass the red execution state and just kill.
You are wack and weak... 4 times for a majoris 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.. weaaaaak
@@jemangedupain. im using a range not just top end headshots you low iq 🤡
@@jemangedupain. Wtf are you on about
This should have the highest headshot multiplier, not the Las Fusil
Just wondering why Saber is so stingy towards the iconic Bolter series of weapons. Is it not weird that a game that revolves around WH40K Space Marines has near to nobody using Bolter weapons, except the Heavy. You have mad skills and reflexes, and it hurts to see that you are specifically trying to showcase the weapon but it is practically useless 90% of the time and it was your dagger, pistol and skills that led to the win.
To be honest, considering how stingy they are with ammo, this should be a 1 single headshot into executing for Majoris, or 3 body shots. So apparently what it needed is 125% damage buff, not 12.5%.
Then again the sweatlords will cry. Oh what dilemma.
Screw the sweatlords. I want my bolter power fantasy. Just trow at me more waves as a compensation for the power
I think they rolled out these incremental buffs to see how much it would affect the bolters. They’ll probably buff them further later. Think about it this way, if Saber buffed them super massively to the point of becoming superior to the other weapons then they’ll just have to nerf them later which would make everyone upset.
I giggle at the fact you can just simply walk through the cultists and they explode.
Tzeentch sends his splodiest soldiers to fight his most convoluted battles
To destroy lesser sorcerers shield you must shoot in the eye in the centre of the shield
i agree this weapon is useless compared to the las fusil i think it needs 3 things to be as good
bigger magazine
higher fire rate for every variant
way more max ammo capacity
same with stalker bolter really, bolter should have less damage overall than laser and plasma guns but should be way more convenient/easy to use and they just feel mechanicly the same but with way less damage when compared...
I still see no point in using this over the stalker or the las
The moment it took ya 4 shots to get a regular Majoris enemy down to red ( 2:32 for those that wanna see for themselves) I knew it was still not worth grinding out. I was grinding out both the sniper rifle and the Las Fusil and It was like trying to compare a nerf gun to a real gun so I stuck to fully grinding out Las Fusil and ditched the Sniper Rifle.
I mained this over las initially as i preferred the instant shot vs charge but it just didnt feel good at all on ruthless, i still miss shots with Las due to charge but i prefer it by a mile
What's funny is the Las Fusil still does 2x the damage... and the new patch somehow broke it with healing. I played two Lethal runs with Sniper yesterday and the Las Fusil randomly healed me to full multiple times (no Bulwark on team). I'm not sure what exactly caused that but it's certainly not intended behaviour.
I mained and played this weapon from release onwards, did all mission on t5 with it on release day (4 deaths and knocks, flawlessed 5 maps) and the thing with the bolt sniper is that makes it more appealing for me than las fusil is that i always go aggressive. Most games im top melee and ranged damage. I go full force close range and hitting a headshot after every parry before your pistolstrike in quick succession ist just superior in a gameplay perspective. Yes Las Fusil is a better Sniper, but Bolt Sniper can be played like a slug shotgun, and thats a lot of fun and insanely viable.
I see no reason to use it over any other weapon if you are maxing the melee perks of the class, it's the worst weapon by a mile.
@@ghostedonlinegive me some argumentation why its the worst by a mile
They need to fix/buff the headshot modifier for this gun.
I hadnt played the Sniper until now, post 4.0 and 4.1, and my god, theres a playstyle thats afforded to the Carbine and Stalker, but why the hell would anyone use the sniper instead of the Las Fusil? its SO much better damage wise, ammo efficiency, ease of use and can actually damage the Bio-Titan. Either the rifle needs to be seriously buffed further to make it more appealing, or there needs to be weapon perks tat bring it up to the Fusils level either in its own tree or the in the class tree.
I was excited and leveled it up and its booty. To even start to compete with the fusil it would need to one shot into execute majoris. The lack of add clear is such a huge downside that it isn't worth taking simply based on that.
Thank you for saving me a ton of time 😂
Tactical bot actin real sus
I main bolt sniper on lethal. Its fun. Fuck the meta.
Sorry to interrupt but Bolters are still garbo and useless since the buffs are all placebo and fake
I’d say heavy bolt rifle felt much better than before patch. It now downs majoris much faster and has a good add clear. Standard bolt rifle and Stalker always was fine