The Painful Truth about New York Hardcore
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
- Pain of Truth - Not Through Blood Album review
New York Hardcore, nyhc
#nyhc
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Yo! So, This could quite possibly be the greatest and by far my favorite "TH-cam" upload ever!! 🤓😈🤡🖤🤎💜💙💚💛🧡❤
This guy is a perfect example of why we need gatekeeping in the hardcore community…
This kid rocks, I'd let him in.
“If the band was passed the torch voluntarily” what? You think Madball like we’re forced to do the feature? What?
Yeah that was a ridiculous thing to say. Anyone paying attention to hc knows the band is one of the biggest in the genre since the ep.
this has to be satire
This dude doesn't go to shows in his own hometown just let that sink in while listening to this
Yes I do
This could be one of the creepiest comments. Are you following this dude?
Squints from the Sandlot chatting pure waffle
*Pancake 🥞
Calling some features on a record a “Big network flex” like the Pain of Truth album wasn’t released on a small indie label that’s maybe five years old is hilarious. It says more about your intelligence than their talents if you really think they “sold in” to a genre with next to no financial benefit or longevity, regardless of what you think of their music.
when you have Freddy Madball on your album i don’t think anyone can tell you that your NYHC album is bad
meh yea maybe 2-3 decades ago
Ah oh. Freddy Madball! ....
P.O.T 🔥
Im portuguese and i know he is hated in his local scene
I'm literally not. Quit coping
You can have your opinion, but i saw you said the kruelty album was certified solid. Yet alot of their riffs and breakdowns are super similar, same critique you had for Pain of Truth. Just throwing that out there.
Except Kruelty rule, though
cringe
Any New Yorker knows
Agnostic Front is still the Kings of NYCHC
Album smacks but real talk all you did was insult the bands character it’s wild how you said you didn’t judge the bands character but did a whole rant about how the band runs their gimmick 😂 contradicting asf tbh
Their gimmick is that they're real? That's the biggest contradiction of all time. Pssst, gimmick is the opposite of authentic.
@@danframpt0n it’s music dude it’s not that deep not everything ppl talk about is real in music
@nathanielroyal dude, the gimmick can't be that you're saying you're 'real' because the inverse of that is that you're 'fake'. That's lame as hell. If your gimmick in some way is that you're fake but are in actuality you're real, well that'd be dope.
The Streets? The LES is full of boutiques and coffee shops 🤣 Super hard.
And all of those are on the seedier blocks. That entire part of the city has COMPLETELY changed over the last 20 years.
lol
and restaurants on Ave C where you can easily blow $100 on a meal
These days talking shit about anything is the new National sport.
Have you ever wondered why some youtubers just create content criticizing everything?
The answers is you get more views if you polarize a discussion talking shit about stuff.
Why don't we talk about stuff we love instead?
Dont care didnt watch you’re wrong put this comment in the response video
7:06 there it is. The event that shaped your worldview.
It seems that way aint it?
What did you think of their first EP?
I actually quite enjoyed it
I think the ep was better honestly.
@@DrummerEvan1had extremely better riffs
I thought it was mid overall. "All the riffs sound the same" is kind of a theme with hardcore and I usually don't mind that but even I thought some tracks sounded very similar. IMO only the best of the best can really warrant releasing something longer than like 15 mins, really don't get why some hardcore bands are so intent on releasing full-lengths in 2023, its really not an easy genre to expand on for 25+ mins. That being said, I really like their first EP, the fact that its only 10 mins probably isn't a coincidence.
Pink, should've worn that pink GB sweater. I want that thing man haha. Plus y'know, also nyhc
It's in the wash and incredibly stinky atm. This saga doesn't feel over...
The Village People created NYHC.
POT have features because Michael likes rap music so he sees features as part of an album’s structure type shit
This is how jazz people feel about Harley when they see he has Jaco's bass and all he does is dance around with it with the volume off.
Homie doesn't realize that a Bad Seed feature is an instant 10/10, no culture
When you have features from the breadth and scope of hardcore across different scenes and trafitions, not to mention even death metal, plus catchy riffs and interrsting songwriting, that sounds like a helluva hardcore album to me.
I completely understand where you’re coming from, I kinda felt this way the first time I listened to this record full way through. But after listening to it more, I have to disagree. In genres like hardcore, there’s a tendency for bands to use the exact same techniques and have the exact same idols, so i guess me getting used to it and kind of enjoying it is likely why I have this bias. Each song packs, a punch that was thrown in the same way, yet still hits me with a great feeling in my chest, knowing that I’m listening to something that I can release my emotions into. I know that I can say this about many other hardcore records, but that’s also another reason why I enjoy this one. You may see it as a negative but I don’t really see it as one, rather I see it as a positive that it’s a continuation of New York hardcores legacy through using old and modern techniques in Hardcore. The whole “we run the streets now.” thing does get kind of cheesy, but I feel like any type of song that has pride in a certain area will tend to come off as cheesy to anybody outside of it. I loved hearing your opinion, and I may agree with you someday, but in the meantime, I’m going to be bumping this record. Subscribed!!
Respect! Thanks for sharing your perspective.
People are becoming increasingly more unhinged about musical opinions. Say one thing against any band, they act like you just railed their mom to death. Happens a lot in black metal, and mainstream top 40 pop/rap. It’s getting low key scary
I liked the album a lot, but damn. People gotta fucking relax about other peoples opinions, it’s just an album and it doesn’t fucking matter whether someone else likes it or hates it
Do you smoke weed?
I think theyre good. Not my favorite, not the worst theyre great live though. We can all have different opinions i feel like a lot of people forget that these days
Combust is the best nyhc band playing that 80s classic nyhc style.
Lethal relessed a sick ep on 11pm records.
Warthog wipes the floor with p.o.t.
Subversive rite, Flower, vivisected knumbskulls, abism, stigmatism ... Great nyc band's
how he really describes himself at the end is hilarious: not tough not hard not cool not entertaining not creative literally devoid of anything and actually damaging
L cope
fantano's little cousin@@danframpt0n
i mean. it’s fine. an itch got scratched. it’s like an old feeling in a good way. i think of it like a fresh breath of old air. like this isn’t like scratchy xerox cover art or like bouncy death metal influenced riffs played through HM2 petals. like all the bands are now (which don’t get me wrong i love that shit). but this is def like “oh? did this come out in 1997?” type a hardcore. which i mean it’s good to bring that to the world of new kids. that being said. it’s fine. it’s fun. not gona praise it up to the heavens. but i feel like we needed a band like this. (that wasn’t Terror).
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I’m not exactly a fan of the bands music but damn this is out of context as hell
Tough Guy hardcore stuff like Pain of Truth is this weird thing I find myself listening to a lot to like "feel like a badass" but.....I know this isn't good music. It's not even like a little bit good. It fucking sucks in all honesty. It's basically just slop. Brainless mush I put on for the endorphins....if that's ALL you want....Pain of Truth gets the job done.... but no way in a million years if I were like reviewing music or anything would I ever.... Ever ever ever say that an entire album of that is "good" and bands like this have the shittiest fanbases you are absolutely right about that and you're right to point out that they're basically just trying to skirt around the fact that they're just calling you "gay" as an insult.
Did you just put random words together in a sentence and hope for the best?
smells of copium bro
I still prefer Mindforce and Incendiary
Yes... I tried getting into them..but never never got it....its kinda the same and lyrics are just the same old stuff. Nothing new.
But what does Dan Frampton think about New York Metal by Irate
bad take lol
This is a bit?
I live in the LES in NYC, and Pain of Truth can't even fill one of their dive bar shows with people. They're an opener to the opener to the opener band. They always open to another band's existing audience.
"Same riff after same riff" has been NYHC for awhile now. The scene peaked with Merauder and I'm FROM NY.
Agreed
Marauders the best.
it's literally just ok. inoffensive background noise, and that's ok. their sound & fury set was insane though, just cuz of that id prob give em another shot live
I always get sucked into clicking on this guys vids. I mean, gotta give it to him, his titles sound interesting, but it's always 10minutes of prattling and repetition about something that could be concisely done in about 3 minutes.
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Dan you seem a little triggered I’m not gonna lie. I usually agree with most your takes and I think it’s a good first album but the years of hype kinda was their biggest downfall. But saying it’s a damaging record and basically calling these dudes violent criminals because they are from New York is crazy! Don’t let some random comments from fans of the band influence your opinions
Remember Madball? Yeah they werent any good either lol
I was there. mostly straight edge thugs in the scene. not super inclusive. those old NY/LIHC were good but it’s 2023. NYC is vastly different from what it once was and it’s time to start playing new songs and understand that nostalgia for a time that one has never experienced is pretty pathetic 🥞🥞🥞
go outside
Hope your next musical project will be called Peer pressure
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2:26 lo
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Hey dan ive been watching your vids for a while now and its hard to believe youre almost at 10k subs!! Keep up the good work dude! Awesome to see how far youve come!
Some people are super …. Interesting
Long Island ISN'T new york lMAO
Long Island is an expansive, densely populated island in southeastern New York State, stretching east from New York City. Along its Atlantic coast are Jones Beach State Park, Fire Island and Montauk Point State Park, the latter home to the late-1700s Montauk Lighthouse. On the east end, the North Fork is home to wineries and the Hamptons are towns characterized by upscale homes, trendy restaurants and antiques shops.
@@danframpt0n As someone from New York City I find you repulsive
Like Guttermouth said “Fuck I hate that metal shit!!” Just playing don’t come after me
Had to turn this dude off after 2 minutes
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*just showbiz
They’re so famous I never even even heard of em 🤷😄🤣
Stop acting like the f slur and you won't get called one. DUH! ...ya f slur. 💀
get em boys
why not just type the word? don’t be afraid. censoring yourself, just shows you’re a coward. ain’t no half steppin when it comes to bigotry, babe. lol or maybe you’re scared of reported?
You are very ignorant, my guy.
LOL.. naw@@danframpt0n
This comment it's pure testosterone, probably triggered by an energy drink
"One big network flex" sounds like a problem New York Hardcore hasn't been able to get out out of since the late 80s to be honest.
Come outside
No one's there :(
Best NYHC band after Incendiary is Show me the Body honestly 😅
6:07 yuuuup
Ciok ngawur full reviewmu le
Guys in hardcore bands hate love fun and happiness and are scared to date/marry women. Am I wrong?
You’re amazing
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ye didn't really get this album and i thought having a billion features was cringe as fk.
POT is straight up toxic. Someone got knocked out cold during their set at AHC last year and they refused to stop and called us pussies for asking them to stop playing
That's gnarly, not too surprising at all, but gnarly
Welcome to hardcore
A similar think happened in my hometown. They played with C4, Restraining Order, Sunami and No Pressure. I was realy hyped about this show. They played as third band on that evening and on the second song of the set the merch guy of C4 knocked a local kid out which wanted to say he should mosh a bit less aggressive. The kid hurt his neck on the edge of the stage and couldn't move for a while. The crowd stopped the show and the C4 guy and POT were very aggressive towards the friends of the kid because they called them out for there behavior and ignorance of the fact that the kid couldn't be moved out of the pit and wanted to continue playing in this situation. An ambulance was called and the promoter had to have himself called a pussies and you argue very hard and long because he didn't want to them to finish their set. Because of all this the sets of Sunami and No Pressure which where my favorites on the bill that evening where cut short in an a way they both played only around 10-15 Minutes. Since than I caned enjoy POT anymore because they don't want to have people having fun on there shows they really want to see blood and they don't respect the local scene but only want everyone to follow their stupid tough guy joke I'm a pseudo gangsta mindset.
@@airraid7243 That's not Hardcore. If I want to knock someone out I can become a hooligan. You can mosh hard but if someone really gets hurt at least help 'em.
heat
Can you do a video on Abby Jane she's interesting.
actual pain of truth. nyhc has had some great bands, and the other 90% of them are fucking wack. always resented the direction nyhc went in the 90s. the street tough gimmick that every band followed after madball stripped every ounce of punk that was barely left in nyhc. now these clowns think any hardcore that isnt beatdown is just punk.
You know.... Honestly to me a lot of hardcore music is basically just metal but if the band sucked at their instruments and cussed more....that's what this flavor of hardcore basically sounds like to me. It's definitely not punk at least not sonically at all. And THAT is something that does actually annoy me and that's how we get swarms of terminally tough guy hardcore dudes screeching about how Turnstile isn't a real hardcore band because they actually sound like hardcore PUNK music instead of literally just being a budget version of Slipknot.
The only thing worse then the carbon copy sound of these bands and sounding more like metal is the crowd it attracts. They're tuff but still do choreographed dance moves in the pit together like a pop music video shoot.
@@CaH6633god I feel this so much
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last i noticed hardcore pretty much all sounds the same the last 20 years,all regurgitated ,,its all who hypes what band no skills required in it,,played in bands the last 20 years too
ok man i just listen to this album i mean skim through it lol... not at all good man.... this is not NYHC that i know of.
Best NYHC album is the 1st Murphys Law. Period.
The truth about NYHC - It friggin sucks and ruined punk rock.
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