I'm the homeowner, this is my well! The well was dug in 1972 or 1973 and it had a normal small pumphouse around it. My dad built this larger building around it in the early 90's. The original jet pump was replaced by the one that is being removed in this video sometime in the 90's as well. Maybe at the same time the bigger building was built. The one being removed is a Water Ace from Lowes. However, the PVC pipe in the well was still dated 1970 (saw it printed on one of the pieces they pulled out). I am not sure if someone pulled all the PVC out at that time to replace the ejector on the bottom, or if they just left the one from the original 1972 pump. These guys did a great job, and I'm fortunate that I live close enough by that I could get him and his crew. I started watching these videos a year or so back, thinking I was going to have to at least replace my pressure tank which had failed. Then I realized they were close by, so I was able to get them to come and replace the entire pump. The pump had developed a bad bearing around Christmas so it was on it's way out. I'm hoping to get them to come back later this year to replace the black plastic pipe and electric back to the house. They did an awesome job. He's very professional. Came out and did the job on a day when a lot of people wouldn't have bothered. It's working great and we have good, consistent water pressure now. The finished system is a work of art compared to what I had before. I just go out and stare at it sometimes.
Thank you for letting this job be shared with us here on this channel. Really helps to see different scenarios and configurations both old and new. Best of luck!
I very much appreciate this detailed message. All my life I had municipal water supply, in Germany it is rather rare for homes to have own wells. Here the systems use to be centralized and well digging is heavily regulated. The states take is "This way we can ensure water quality" (and bill us all I guess). So I don´t know these kind of problems and I very much hope Your water is good and don´t get You sick over the Years. And I just stare at things, too ;) Kind Regards, be well!
Fun Facts. I'm in the pool and spa business, but I'm a plumber by trade and we used to do a lot of deep well jet pumps back in the day. The first "Jacuzzi Jets" were actually deep well jets. Jacuzzi originally made well and winery equipment. In the 50s while building his own pool Jacuzzi installed deep well jets sideways in the pool wall, with the venturi suction open to the atmosphere. When water was pumped through the jet it sucked air in creating more "Power". All spa jets still operate on the same basic principle. Forcing pressurized water through a small orifice and then drawing air in through venturi action. Mazzai injectors for chemicals and ozone work the same way.
Thanks for yet Another Great vidclip, ....Lovely cat too .... :-) :-) :-) ..... Only comment :- That piece of 'Roll Pex' from the Filter Outlet to the 'House Feed Line', I would love to see that 'Anchored' 1/2 way there to take the Weight .... With all that water in it there is a LOT of strain on the Filter Housing and Connection. One can see the Bend in that Pipe already ... It Will Fracture eventually ..... :-) :-) :-) Best to You and Yours, Keep well and Stay safe .... Cheers from ChCh, NZ
In New England, we're used to seeing poly pipe in wells instead of PVC. A well house like this is another reason to use poly pipe. So much easier to pull and reinstall.
Really love this video. You make it seem like it is aan easy job,however this is a pretty difficut job. You are such a great instructor and you are truly a Professional in your trade. Another job that is well done!!!
Honestly I gave it some thought and I think it would just create a bunch more opportunity to rub through the insulation as the pump.bumls around every time it starts. Also this wire is rated for a use like this and is double insulated and the outer layer is tougher than you'd think. But I'm just an electrician, I've only pulled one well pump (twice in the same summer) so that's the limit of my knowledge. We used wire just like this and it's some crazy tough stuff compared to whats in your attic.
Wow! This is the system I replaced! I learned everything from you! 🤣😎 You would have enjoyed my one man method for pulling 42 feet of double PVC pipe... I didn't have a pipe dawg! 🤓
am i the only one left that likes running a jet pump and a non bladder tank? i like having a system i can keep an eye on. i also just rebuild the pump for less then $100.
I'm using a 20+ year old stay rite Jet pump attached to a Mid 1970's Hoyt 40 gallon old style tank.Add air @ every 9 months, and get 12 gallons of draw down at 45-65 PSI pump switch setting. Did I mention that I'm a plumber with almost 40 years experience? Shallow wells can get good service out of jet pump systems, but anything over 60 feet deep needs a submersible pump.Stay away from the "Big Box" store parts!!!!
Anything over 60ft total depth right? Not where you first touch water? I’m trying to figure out what pump to buy. I have a jet pump at 20-40 pressure setting and I’d like to see if I can go to 40-60 to increase water pressure overall.
When I replaced my jet pump pulling water from a dug well 3' wide by 25' deep, I removed the tank completely, and set the pump pressure switch to cut off before max pressure. I added PVC bits and a hose bib, and eventually had 150' of good quality garden hose so I could reach most areas of my lot. The pump was only used for garden watering and as a grass-fire backup when burning trash. But one day I unintentially left it running overnight and the PVC blew its top off, so I had lots of water everywhere. I thought it was a one time deal, but when it happened again I installed a DYI "overpressure relief" which consisted of a 2-hose bib with a short hose directed back into the well, and a long hose out to the garden. The valve for the short hose was barely opened set to allow a fair trickle of water passing back down into the wide dug well. That kept it from building too much pressure. The trickle of water re-directed back into the well did not significantly affect overall pressure at the garden hose. My DIY fix has eliminated the PVC 'blow-outs' for the last 15 years, but recently the jet pump finally gave out, and the cost of a new submersible pump was less than the cost of repairing the old jet pump, so that is the project I am working on today. p.s. in my Internet search the current crop of jet pumps at big-box stores and Harbor Freight are poorer quality than my original cast-iron jet pump, and more expensive than a 3/4 hp 110v submersible.
I´d have liked a little explain about why it´s called "jet pump" and why there were two lines in the well. To me that looked like an ordinary centrifugal pump.
What’s fun is to pull an old jet pump that has galvanized pipe down in the well. They can be very heavy especially in a well house like that where you would have to do it by hand and cut it up like they did the pvc in this well to get it out. You would be picking up the weight of the 2 galvanized pipes and them full of water, one pipe would be 1 1/4 inch and the other would be 1 inch. I’m 71 years old and it’s probably been 40 or 45 years since me, my brother and my dad did one of those on galvanized. When we put a jet pump back in we used black coil pipe down in the well if the customer would agree to it. I can also remember pulling submersibles hung on galvanized pipe. If it was over 100 foot and hung on galvanized we used one of the old cable tool Bucyrus Erie machines to pull it and reinstall it if the customer insisted on galvanized pipe. We didn’t have a crane or pump truck with a derrick on it like some other companies had.
Lot of wells for jet pumps have small diameter casings. I think mine is 2&1/2". I found a 2" submersible online. Any experience doing this? Thank you. I don't want to have to drill a new well if possible.
Have to uncover my pit and check the drop pipe size ( praying it's 2.5 vs 2 inch), but was planning the same thing 2 inch submersible. Did it work okay for you? Seems the logical path
lol 😂 reminds me of my first house when I bought it. Hand driven point well . ( in the flipping 125 year old shore basement) 5 foot at a time to replace the foot valve what a pain in the booty!!🙄 put all new back in 5 foot at a time. Long before plastic pipe😂😂 when I sold it. She was still pumping.. the caseing was 3 foot sections who ever drove that well dang sure earned it hand pounding the point screen down….. nice job on converting the well❤
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Great video! I never knew anything about a Jet Pump system until I saw an older video of yours and you explained how the system works. I have a well that is 78 feet deep with the jet pump setup. It was old when I moved in in 1998 but it still works great. I am planning on swapping it out to a submersible pump eventually and was wondering what size pump you installed here. Love your videos, thanks.
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One thing i know the electrical inspector requires here that is different. You have 3 choices. If a well house is used a disconnect is required inside or if no well house a outside disconnect is required either outside the house above where the water pipe enters or a treated post next to the well where the well is located. And if your unlucky enough to get inspector Wingo it has to be a GFCI breaker.
Cats around an open well - they scared the daylights out of me, if cats were wandering about I watched them like a hawk and kept the well covered, especially the 20 bored wells.
A jet pump in the basement is noisy and you'll hear it throughout the whole house when it runs. Submersible pumps have petter water pressure 40 to 60 psi.
Great job . I have a question I have a 1980 well the was abandoned about 10 years I noticed at the bottom of the well fells muddy I install a new pump like you did on the. Video but my casing is a concrete and don’t have a casing what you recommended to do in this case
I was listening to your video at 1:38 while I was cutting my pizza when I heard you say "that's heavy" and all I could think about was back to the future 😆
For your information. I have several properties with well houses. I put a heat lamp on a timer for protection from freezing backed up with a floor heater on a thermostat. we had below zero weather for a week along with no electricity for a week.due to the cold all the pipes in the house and the well houses froze and broke including the new water heater and pressure tank. i called my insurance co and they sent out a claim adjuster who told me it's a good thing I had the heat lamp and floor heater because if there was no heater source the insurance would not cover those pipes. the bill was over $3000 as all the fittings and pipes in the house had to be replaced. even though there was no power the fact that we had protection saved me thousands.
Great video. Very similar to what I want to do. Only problem is that my steel casing is only 2" out of the floor and it is severely rusted to the point that im afraid the casing is going to fall apart trying to pull the poly pipes and ejector. I would like to install a liner but its 4" steel casing. You have any experience with lining 4" with 3" sch 40 pvc casing that is threaded so that it has no hubs? Its expensive but its probably my only option for installing a 3" submersible
Why is the pump and tank outside in a wellhouse instead of a setup originally with a submersible pump in the well and the tank in the house? Just curious as I don't think I've ever seen this in my area.
Wow 115v systems are so foriegn to me.... I never had anything but a 240v myers pump growing up... had to feed a barn house and a trailer home needed the capacity from a 68 ft deep water well with sulphur water.... yummy
Haven't located your video on how jet pumps work. The place where I grew up had a two inch driven well and some "mystery" device on the top. There were two pipes exiting that to the pump. I assume the device was the jet and wonder how far it could lift water. I know that there was no foot valve so it would seem that every time the pump went on, it had to lift water from where ever it stood in the well pipe. Obviously, I don't understand what was happening so I hope you can enlighten me. Thanks. dave
hello!! Thank you for teaching! I have to do exactly this to my farm house. I do have a question so that I can do this on my own. Granted the pump is working but I fear it uses crazy amounts of electricity since I have no ac no electric heat and my power bill is higher than my neighbor who runs ac. My pump reads 20-40 pressure switch. I don’t know gpm or static water level. I’ll check those when ready to tackle the project. My question is how can I determine if I should buy a stronger pump? I’m building a market garden and don’t have a pond yet to draw water from so I’m stuck with this well for now and want to make sure it keeps up. Thanks for your help.
If you currently have a above ground jet pump, they can only be max 80ft deep. So most any submersible 10Gpm pump will work. You can buy 100ft of pipe and wire & itll cover your needs most likely. I'd recommend updating the tank if it's old (20 gallon) & go to a 40/60 pressure switch
We use a rope , attached to the pump in case the pump comes off the pipe . Electric wires will break , pump stops but you can pull the pump out with the rope
Question on filters - if one has a spin down and whole house filter ( 4x10” @ 5-10 micron), how often should a refrigerator filter be changed? Also should well be sanitized (pool chlorine) if well is never opened up and water is clear and does not smell or taste bad? Thoughts?
So its more important to Sanitize a well when it's not being used. A family of 5 will never have issues with bacteria until the kids move out & then 2 year later only 2 people using water & bacteria begins to form. So shocking the well, even a small amount once a year is a good idea. Spin down filters should only be for irrigation. The 4x10 filter is great & should last 6+ months. As for the refrigerator filter, that's a Carbon filter & may last 3 months or 12 months, it's all in what minerals you have in the water. Like calcium (hard water) it'll plug up the fridge filter very fast. At my home I had to buy a bypass filter bc mine would only last 60 days. Those carbon filters for the ice & water were designed to work with city water...carbon helps remove the chlorine smell in city water. Well water will stop them up bc of the mineral content
If it was mine, I would of laid a sand bed to protect the waterline from jagged rock settling, installed an oversized elec pvc raceway and finished off with direct burial caution tape
Was looking forward to updating my pump situation following this method. Bummed out to find I have a two stage deep well, but it has one pipe going down with the casing becoming the other pipe. ,(smaller bore pipe). Does anyone know if replacing the motor requires pulling the drop pipe and replacing the ejector/venturi or can I just replace the motor. ?
My well here. 230 would have been nice, but 120 was what was in the ground already for the old jet pump. I expect this will still use less power than the old jet pump that was operating without a working pressure tank. Maybe when we put in the new wiring and piping between the house and well later this year, I'll run 230 so I'll have the extra capacity for the future. It would make it easier to have heating out there as well. I wasn't in a position to where we could wait and run new wiring, because the old pump was dying.
@@andywells8225 For heating, you could wrap the pipes in self regulating heat tape and then foam pipe insulation. Much lower power loading at 3W to 5W per foot of tape vs. hundreds to thousands of watts for a space heater.
@@andywells8225 You must figure total developed wire length and horsepower to choose a large enough wire to not have voltage drop at the pump. It is critical on 110 volt 1/2 HP submersibles. If I remember correctly (check it in the manufacturers specs!) @ 100 feet total was the limit on #12 wire.If the wire is big enough , it will be just fine.
Up to the filter the installation looks good, the pipe leaving the filter looks unsupported and sagging which could lead to it breaking. It should've been routed cleaner, no angled runs. the flexible electrical conduit should've had a fitting on both ends instead of being siliconed into the well.
I have seen the filter before the tank a few times-the excess back pressure when the filter clogged always damaged either the pipe or the pump.The switch saw low pressure and failed to shut the pump off.
Only thing I would have done differently is put in a bypass below the filter for cleaning and also flushing the iron. Other than that very cool video. Thought it was interesting that no pressure tank was involved just a big jet pump in the older days.
This is my well. The old jet pump did have a really small pressure tank, it's the tank right beneath the pump itself. It was only 6 or 8 gallons, so it was small even when it was actually working. But it died some time ago so basically the pump came on as soon as you turned on a faucet. I'm not too worried about having the bypass, changing the filter is fast enough that nobody in the house should be affected.
@@andywells8225 oh ok gotcha, also the bypass isn't necessary, just nice if you need it. Your new setup is perfectly fine without it. Ive just seen him do a bypass before and it must be upon request or really irony water.
Can you explain the other way around pls? Replacing a submersible pump with a jet pump. I want to get rid of a 220v pump so I can use a jet pump that runs on 110 and make use of a solar powered system which is cheaper on 110 volts. However, it could be better if I a jet pump can be cascaded with an already installed submersible pump so that pumping water can use solar in the day but electric grid in the night - that would prevent having to install batteries. Isn't that a good idea?
1, had no idea white PVC plumbing tube was a thing in 1970 I had always thought that stuff didnt catch on til way later. 2, I hope helper-cat was on the payroll for that job and not just a unpaid weekend intern lol
I would have mounted the water pipe with two straps, the electric should have been straped to the pipe. Labled the wall switch, and raked or swept out the room.
guess the owner knew to not run any water in the house as the valve to the filter was not shut so water took the easiest route and took the hose outlet.
Why don’t you change the breaker to 220 and have a two wire 220 system? Far more efficient.! Also the next guy that changes the tank won’t put the same information on the new tank. That’s why for marking land the old timers used stone walls rather than trees.
I see two main pitfalls with converting an existing 120V circuit to 240V. 1. There may be other equipment, known or unknown on the circuit, which would not be happy about 240V. 2. You have to source the right breaker, find a suitable space for it in the panel and get someone competent to install it. Given that the light switch and the pump switch looked identical to each other and were in the same box, and given that we did not see any sign of an electrical panel in the well-house, I would not be surprised if everything in the pump house (light, outlet and pump) was on a shared 120V circuit. I get the distinct impression he is a well guy not an electrian, he obviously does some limited electrical work to hook up the well pumps and pressure controls but there is a big difference between that and being a full-blown electrian.
They didn't have PVC pipe in 1970. It was a new thing used sparingly at the very end of the 70s, but it would take more years before it was super common and they started printing anything on the pipe. That pipe is mid 80s at most.
My well here: I am fairly certain I saw a 1970 date on one of the pipes that was taken out. Which makes sense, because it was definitely dug in 1972 or 1973 and the pipe was never changed.
I'm the homeowner, this is my well! The well was dug in 1972 or 1973 and it had a normal small pumphouse around it. My dad built this larger building around it in the early 90's. The original jet pump was replaced by the one that is being removed in this video sometime in the 90's as well. Maybe at the same time the bigger building was built. The one being removed is a Water Ace from Lowes. However, the PVC pipe in the well was still dated 1970 (saw it printed on one of the pieces they pulled out). I am not sure if someone pulled all the PVC out at that time to replace the ejector on the bottom, or if they just left the one from the original 1972 pump.
These guys did a great job, and I'm fortunate that I live close enough by that I could get him and his crew. I started watching these videos a year or so back, thinking I was going to have to at least replace my pressure tank which had failed. Then I realized they were close by, so I was able to get them to come and replace the entire pump. The pump had developed a bad bearing around Christmas so it was on it's way out. I'm hoping to get them to come back later this year to replace the black plastic pipe and electric back to the house.
They did an awesome job. He's very professional. Came out and did the job on a day when a lot of people wouldn't have bothered. It's working great and we have good, consistent water pressure now. The finished system is a work of art compared to what I had before. I just go out and stare at it sometimes.
Thank you for letting this job be shared with us here on this channel. Really helps to see different scenarios and configurations both old and new. Best of luck!
You might want to cover the pipes with Pipe Insulation Foam Tube (pool noodles) Cheap, effective and easy to install.
I very much appreciate this detailed message. All my life I had municipal water supply, in Germany it is rather rare for homes to have own wells.
Here the systems use to be centralized and well digging is heavily regulated.
The states take is "This way we can ensure water quality" (and bill us all I guess).
So I don´t know these kind of problems and I very much hope Your water is good and don´t get You sick over the Years.
And I just stare at things, too ;)
Kind Regards, be well!
What kind of pump was it
I hope you fixed the floor
Glad you're using a clear filter so he can tell when it's getting dirty
This channel has taught me a lot. Appreciate your hard work.
Bringing back memories!😊
Bonus points for petting the cat. And that "D-U-N" done! LOL - I'm stealing that!
I think that's the type of system my neighbor has, which she has problems with periodically. It won't turn off at times, but pumps water.
Fun Facts. I'm in the pool and spa business, but I'm a plumber by trade and we used to do a lot of deep well jet pumps back in the day. The first "Jacuzzi Jets" were actually deep well jets. Jacuzzi originally made well and winery equipment. In the 50s while building his own pool Jacuzzi installed deep well jets sideways in the pool wall, with the venturi suction open to the atmosphere. When water was pumped through the jet it sucked air in creating more "Power". All spa jets still operate on the same basic principle. Forcing pressurized water through a small orifice and then drawing air in through venturi action. Mazzai injectors for chemicals and ozone work the same way.
When you switch over to a submersible pump, do you need to also install a control box?
Thanks for yet Another Great vidclip, ....Lovely cat too .... :-) :-) :-) ..... Only comment :- That piece of 'Roll Pex' from the Filter Outlet to the 'House Feed Line', I would love to see that 'Anchored' 1/2 way there to take the Weight .... With all that water in it there is a LOT of strain on the Filter Housing and Connection. One can see the Bend in that Pipe already ... It Will Fracture eventually ..... :-) :-) :-) Best to You and Yours, Keep well and Stay safe .... Cheers from ChCh, NZ
We need you in North Carolina to show these other plumbers what to do
Looks good, nice job
And 40 years from now your system will look....still awesome!
Yes… because the pump got changed every 10 years
Phillip you do a wonderful job of teaching. I truly enjoy watching your videos. Keep them coming. You definitely know your business. 😊
Thanks for another interesting vid! Do you put a metal tag (with well data) on a well when you just replace the pump?
In New England, we're used to seeing poly pipe in wells instead of PVC. A well house like this is another reason to use poly pipe. So much easier to pull and reinstall.
I really like the way you explain everything that you're doing,or going to do while not filming. Thanks for the knowledge.
Really love this video. You make it seem like it is aan easy job,however this is a pretty difficut job. You are such a great instructor and you are truly a Professional in your trade. Another job that is well done!!!
how come you did not put the conduit over the entire wire going into the well to protect and extend the shelf-life of the wire ?
Cause no one does that. If it's taped right, it shouldn't be a problem.
Honestly I gave it some thought and I think it would just create a bunch more opportunity to rub through the insulation as the pump.bumls around every time it starts. Also this wire is rated for a use like this and is double insulated and the outer layer is tougher than you'd think.
But I'm just an electrician, I've only pulled one well pump (twice in the same summer) so that's the limit of my knowledge. We used wire just like this and it's some crazy tough stuff compared to whats in your attic.
Wow! This is the system I replaced! I learned everything from you! 🤣😎 You would have enjoyed my one man method for pulling 42 feet of double PVC pipe... I didn't have a pipe dawg! 🤓
am i the only one left that likes running a jet pump and a non bladder tank? i like having a system i can keep an eye on. i also just rebuild the pump for less then $100.
I'm using a 20+ year old stay rite Jet pump attached to a Mid 1970's Hoyt 40 gallon old style tank.Add air @ every 9 months, and get 12 gallons of draw down at 45-65 PSI pump switch setting. Did I mention that I'm a plumber with almost 40 years experience? Shallow wells can get good service out of jet pump systems, but anything over 60 feet deep needs a submersible pump.Stay away from the "Big Box" store parts!!!!
Anything over 60ft total depth right? Not where you first touch water? I’m trying to figure out what pump to buy. I have a jet pump at 20-40 pressure setting and I’d like to see if I can go to 40-60 to increase water pressure overall.
@CarolinaFigueroa-vd9mt depends on your setup, your pump may not support 60 psi
When I replaced my jet pump pulling water from a dug well 3' wide by 25' deep, I removed the tank completely, and set the pump pressure switch to cut off before max pressure. I added PVC bits and a hose bib, and eventually had 150' of good quality garden hose so I could reach most areas of my lot. The pump was only used for garden watering and as a grass-fire backup when burning trash. But one day I unintentially left it running overnight and the PVC blew its top off, so I had lots of water everywhere.
I thought it was a one time deal, but when it happened again I installed a DYI "overpressure relief" which consisted of a 2-hose bib with a short hose directed back into the well, and a long hose out to the garden. The valve for the short hose was barely opened set to allow a fair trickle of water passing back down into the wide dug well. That kept it from building too much pressure. The trickle of water re-directed back into the well did not significantly affect overall pressure at the garden hose. My DIY fix has eliminated the PVC 'blow-outs' for the last 15 years, but recently the jet pump finally gave out, and the cost of a new submersible pump was less than the cost of repairing the old jet pump, so that is the project I am working on today.
p.s. in my Internet search the current crop of jet pumps at big-box stores and Harbor Freight are poorer quality than my original cast-iron jet pump, and more expensive than a 3/4 hp 110v submersible.
@@Splungers If not from "big box store," where might a DIYer purchase quality pump and tank supplies?
Sure would be nice if there was a submersible pump that would work in a 2" well.
Thanks for your videos, very informative!
Awesome work bro
I´d have liked a little explain about why it´s called "jet pump" and why there were two lines in the well. To me that looked like an ordinary centrifugal pump.
I bought my place about two years ago with the plan of rebuilding. The well looks almost exactly the same. 1970 it was installed!! lol.
It's pretty "well" insulated. I lol'd.
We put a stainless steel cable with a witch and a flap in the roof for our pvc pipe with the pump on the end. 1/2 horse think it’s 75ft down
That actually looks like a foot valve check valve flow matic that was at bottom 💯👍✌️
Should have the water filter just after the pump and before the balder tank. Keeps the crud from destroying the bladder.
Wondering why you leave the pump so high at 85 ft and not closer to to the 105 ft depth. Seems like that extra water could be helpful in a dry year.
Think you missed the part where he measured *34’ to water* 105’ to bottom. They sat the pump at 85’. If it drys up 50’ that’d be a hell of dry year.
Nice video. Enjoyed it.
What’s fun is to pull an old jet pump that has galvanized pipe down in the well. They can be very heavy especially in a well house like that where you would have to do it by hand and cut it up like they did the pvc in this well to get it out. You would be picking up the weight of the 2 galvanized pipes and them full of water, one pipe would be 1 1/4 inch and the other would be 1 inch. I’m 71 years old and it’s probably been 40 or 45 years since me, my brother and my dad did one of those on galvanized. When we put a jet pump back in we used black coil pipe down in the well if the customer would agree to it. I can also remember pulling submersibles hung on galvanized pipe. If it was over 100 foot and hung on galvanized we used one of the old cable tool Bucyrus Erie machines to pull it and reinstall it if the customer insisted on galvanized pipe. We didn’t have a crane or pump truck with a derrick on it like some other companies had.
Sears required galvanized pipe to hold a submersible pump in the middle 70's.warranty void without it.Dandy way to never honor a warranty, isnt it?
Lot of wells for jet pumps have small diameter casings. I think mine is 2&1/2". I found a 2" submersible online. Any experience doing this? Thank you. I don't want to have to drill a new well if possible.
A 2" pump to my knowledge will not support a house with the proper flow or pressure. It's more for testing purposes
@h2omechanic thx. I was thinking it could slowly fill a 500 gallon tank, like an old cistern, and then that could be pumped to the house.
@@Bob.W.Look into Grundfos brand pumps, if they have one that small , it will be high quality. I do know they make a 3" pump.
Have to uncover my pit and check the drop pipe size ( praying it's 2.5 vs 2 inch), but was planning the same thing 2 inch submersible. Did it work okay for you? Seems the logical path
Cool video 👍👍
Way to think about the next guy. Very cool.
Great job as always !
lol 😂 reminds me of my first house when I bought it. Hand driven point well . ( in the flipping 125 year old shore basement) 5 foot at a time to replace the foot valve what a pain in the booty!!🙄 put all new back in 5 foot at a time. Long before plastic pipe😂😂 when I sold it. She was still pumping.. the caseing was 3 foot sections who ever drove that well dang sure earned it hand pounding the point screen down….. nice job on converting the well❤
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Great video! I never knew anything about a Jet Pump system until I saw an older video of yours and you explained how the system works. I have a well that is 78 feet deep with the jet pump setup. It was old when I moved in in 1998 but it still works great. I am planning on swapping it out to a submersible pump eventually and was wondering what size pump you installed here. Love your videos, thanks.
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One thing i know the electrical inspector requires here that is different. You have 3 choices. If a well house is used a disconnect is required inside or if no well house a outside disconnect is required either outside the house above where the water pipe enters or a treated post next to the well where the well is located. And if your unlucky enough to get inspector Wingo it has to be a GFCI breaker.
For all the effort they put into insulating the place, you'd think they could throw down a bag or two of cement.
Call before you dig, plans for depths of Frost in ground, but ground tactics,new grounding rod.
Cats make the best inspectors.😂
Cats around an open well - they scared the daylights out of me, if cats were wandering about I watched them like a hawk and kept the well covered, especially the 20 bored wells.
So what benefit does it have to switch over to a submersible pump just curious on that swallow of a well
Quieter 😊
A jet pump in the basement is noisy and you'll hear it throughout the whole house when it runs. Submersible pumps have petter water pressure 40 to 60 psi.
@@dand3975 and uses less electricity , it pays itself back on electricity-bill
Great job . I have a question I have a 1980 well the was abandoned about 10 years I noticed at the bottom of the well fells muddy I install a new pump like you did on the. Video but my casing is a concrete and don’t have a casing what you recommended to do in this case
I was listening to your video at 1:38 while I was cutting my pizza when I heard you say "that's heavy" and all I could think about was back to the future 😆
For your information. I have several properties with well houses. I put a heat lamp on a timer for protection from freezing backed up with a floor heater on a thermostat. we had below zero weather for a week along with no electricity for a week.due to the cold all the pipes in the house and the well houses froze and broke including the new water heater and pressure tank. i called my insurance co and they sent out a claim adjuster who told me it's a good thing I had the heat lamp and floor heater because if there was no heater source the insurance would not cover those pipes. the bill was over $3000 as all the fittings and pipes in the house had to be replaced. even though there was no power the fact that we had protection saved me thousands.
The well looks really good, but is there a way to test the water for drinking purposes?
I take well water over City water any day every time I leave the house I have my well water in my cooler and I drink a lot of it❤
Great video. Very similar to what I want to do. Only problem is that my steel casing is only 2" out of the floor and it is severely rusted to the point that im afraid the casing is going to fall apart trying to pull the poly pipes and ejector. I would like to install a liner but its 4" steel casing. You have any experience with lining 4" with 3" sch 40 pvc casing that is threaded so that it has no hubs? Its expensive but its probably my only option for installing a 3" submersible
Why is the pump and tank outside in a wellhouse instead of a setup originally with a submersible pump in the well and the tank in the house? Just curious as I don't think I've ever seen this in my area.
Is the electrical wire in the well any special type since it is going to be wet?
nice job
Wow 115v systems are so foriegn to me.... I never had anything but a 240v myers pump growing up... had to feed a barn house and a trailer home needed the capacity from a 68 ft deep water well with sulphur water.... yummy
Nice job. Do you ever use a torque arrestor?
Haven't located your video on how jet pumps work. The place where I grew up had a two inch driven well and some "mystery" device on the top. There were two pipes exiting that to the pump. I assume the device was the jet and wonder how far it could lift water. I know that there was no foot valve so it would seem that every time the pump went on, it had to lift water from where ever it stood in the well pipe. Obviously, I don't understand what was happening so I hope you can enlighten me. Thanks. dave
Can you please explain how you knew what depth to put your pump at?
hello!! Thank you for teaching! I have to do exactly this to my farm house. I do have a question so that I can do this on my own. Granted the pump is working but I fear it uses crazy amounts of electricity since I have no ac no electric heat and my power bill is higher than my neighbor who runs ac.
My pump reads 20-40 pressure switch.
I don’t know gpm or static water level. I’ll check those when ready to tackle the project.
My question is how can I determine if I should buy a stronger pump?
I’m building a market garden and don’t have a pond yet to draw water from so I’m stuck with this well for now and want to make sure it keeps up. Thanks for your help.
If you currently have a above ground jet pump, they can only be max 80ft deep. So most any submersible 10Gpm pump will work. You can buy 100ft of pipe and wire & itll cover your needs most likely.
I'd recommend updating the tank if it's old (20 gallon) & go to a 40/60 pressure switch
I find it interesting that with the poly pipe you don't run a pulling rope
We use a rope , attached to the pump in case the pump comes off the pipe . Electric wires will break , pump stops but you can pull the pump out with the rope
CAT!!! out there being the boss
You should use flex conduit fittings on both ends of the flex conduit.
Do you need to install a control box?
Question on filters - if one has a spin down and whole house filter ( 4x10” @ 5-10 micron), how often should a refrigerator filter be changed? Also should well be sanitized (pool chlorine) if well is never opened up and water is clear and does not smell or taste bad? Thoughts?
So its more important to Sanitize a well when it's not being used. A family of 5 will never have issues with bacteria until the kids move out & then 2 year later only 2 people using water & bacteria begins to form. So shocking the well, even a small amount once a year is a good idea.
Spin down filters should only be for irrigation. The 4x10 filter is great & should last 6+ months. As for the refrigerator filter, that's a Carbon filter & may last 3 months or 12 months, it's all in what minerals you have in the water. Like calcium (hard water) it'll plug up the fridge filter very fast. At my home I had to buy a bypass filter bc mine would only last 60 days. Those carbon filters for the ice & water were designed to work with city water...carbon helps remove the chlorine smell in city water. Well water will stop them up bc of the mineral content
If it was mine, I would of laid a sand bed to protect the waterline from jagged rock settling, installed an oversized elec pvc raceway and finished off with direct burial caution tape
Was looking forward to updating my pump situation following this method. Bummed out to find I have a two stage deep well, but it has one pipe going down with the casing becoming the other pipe. ,(smaller bore pipe). Does anyone know if replacing the motor requires pulling the drop pipe and replacing the ejector/venturi or can I just replace the motor. ?
I know wells did a great 😊
FYI 230V Pump would use half as much Amp draw....If 230v available, always choose it over 120v...
My well here. 230 would have been nice, but 120 was what was in the ground already for the old jet pump. I expect this will still use less power than the old jet pump that was operating without a working pressure tank. Maybe when we put in the new wiring and piping between the house and well later this year, I'll run 230 so I'll have the extra capacity for the future. It would make it easier to have heating out there as well. I wasn't in a position to where we could wait and run new wiring, because the old pump was dying.
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@@andywells8225 For heating, you could wrap the pipes in self regulating heat tape and then foam pipe insulation. Much lower power loading at 3W to 5W per foot of tape vs. hundreds to thousands of watts for a space heater.
@@andywells8225 You must figure total developed wire length and horsepower to choose a large enough wire to not have voltage drop at the pump. It is critical on 110 volt 1/2 HP submersibles. If I remember correctly (check it in the manufacturers specs!) @ 100 feet total was the limit on #12 wire.If the wire is big enough , it will be just fine.
Could you please clarify what pump did you use for a well in this videol? Thank you in advance.
Is there a reason that you didn't install a union in front of the pvc?
Up to the filter the installation looks good, the pipe leaving the filter looks unsupported and sagging which could lead to it breaking. It should've been routed cleaner, no angled runs.
the flexible electrical conduit should've had a fitting on both ends instead of being siliconed into the well.
Do those jet pumps have to be primed? How do you prime them?
The supervisor showed up I see. 😂
Would it help to install the sediment filter before the pressure tank assembly to protect the tank and bladder?
Pressure-switch would not work when filter is clogged-up
I have seen the filter before the tank a few times-the excess back pressure when the filter clogged always damaged either the pipe or the pump.The switch saw low pressure and failed to shut the pump off.
Only thing I would have done differently is put in a bypass below the filter for cleaning and also flushing the iron. Other than that very cool video. Thought it was interesting that no pressure tank was involved just a big jet pump in the older days.
This is my well. The old jet pump did have a really small pressure tank, it's the tank right beneath the pump itself. It was only 6 or 8 gallons, so it was small even when it was actually working. But it died some time ago so basically the pump came on as soon as you turned on a faucet. I'm not too worried about having the bypass, changing the filter is fast enough that nobody in the house should be affected.
@@andywells8225 oh ok gotcha, also the bypass isn't necessary, just nice if you need it. Your new setup is perfectly fine without it. Ive just seen him do a bypass before and it must be upon request or really irony water.
Is that a 3 or 4 inch well casing?
It was 6 or 8.
6 inch
Can you explain the other way around pls? Replacing a submersible pump with a jet pump. I want to get rid of a 220v pump so I can use a jet pump that runs on 110 and make use of a solar powered system which is cheaper on 110 volts. However, it could be better if I a jet pump can be cascaded with an already installed submersible pump so that pumping water can use solar in the day but electric grid in the night - that would prevent having to install batteries. Isn't that a good idea?
is it just pool shock or something else ? ( to clean the water)
Pool shock
No torque arrestor on the pump? Just wondering.
Better foundation for pump stand.
You ought to try that with steel pipe, 270+ deep.
We do have a crane for metal pipe . And a New Smeal will be here in a few months .( Red of course)
Frosty deep line no freeze..
Had a jet pump just like it
1, had no idea white PVC plumbing tube was a thing in 1970 I had always thought that stuff didnt catch on til way later. 2, I hope helper-cat was on the payroll for that job and not just a unpaid weekend intern lol
Could you recommend a submersible pump for me. My well is 25’ deep. I would love to have 50 psi
What kind of filter is that?
Hi, what is a jet pump ?
What is the benefit between a jet pump and a submersible?
Do you not put ropes on pumps any more.?
No torque arrestor?
The best thing I ever did was swap out the jet pump for a submersible.
Hmmm why is the PEX 3/4 so much smaller than the black roll?
3/4 is just the trade size. Different kinds of pipe are sized differently.
Hydro vacuum pipe wire brushes too scrapers in older well,new perforation, pnt.
I would have mounted the water pipe with two straps, the electric should have been straped to the pipe. Labled the wall switch, and raked or swept out the room.
Torq arrestor ?
Not sure I would have mounted the filter directly above the bladder tank just saying my own personal preference I suppose
it would have been a good time to pour a new floor, that old floors a mess
How often should you add chlorine
Once a year .
guess the owner knew to not run any water in the house as the valve to the filter was not shut so water took the easiest route and took the hose outlet.
Fly by nite jr service,fix it job unlisted,good fix.
Why don’t you change the breaker to 220 and have a two wire 220 system? Far more efficient.! Also the next guy that changes the tank won’t put the same information on the new tank. That’s why for marking land the old timers used stone walls rather than trees.
I see two main pitfalls with converting an existing 120V circuit to 240V.
1. There may be other equipment, known or unknown on the circuit, which would not be happy about 240V.
2. You have to source the right breaker, find a suitable space for it in the panel and get someone competent to install it.
Given that the light switch and the pump switch looked identical to each other and were in the same box, and given that we did not see any sign of an electrical panel in the well-house, I would not be surprised if everything in the pump house (light, outlet and pump) was on a shared 120V circuit.
I get the distinct impression he is a well guy not an electrian, he obviously does some limited electrical work to hook up the well pumps and pressure controls but there is a big difference between that and being a full-blown electrian.
They didn't have PVC pipe in 1970. It was a new thing used sparingly at the very end of the 70s, but it would take more years before it was super common and they started printing anything on the pipe. That pipe is mid 80s at most.
I believe it was all 1978.
My well here: I am fairly certain I saw a 1970 date on one of the pipes that was taken out. Which makes sense, because it was definitely dug in 1972 or 1973 and the pipe was never changed.
Wonder if he ever tested the pump prior to putting it done into the well?
We always test Our pumps at the shop .
@@kevinhensley7654 lol. We learned that lesson the hard way.
I Do Agree That System Looks Really Good But I Would Bet The Shirt Off My Back It Will Not Run as Long as The one ya Took Out..lol.