I'm not huge fan of Nvidia but this card actually a good value,watch the hub review it ranks 3rd on price to performance(on msrp) list plus you will get better rt and better upscaller and other Nvidia features like rtx remix.The only drawback of this card is the vram but i think it will be fine for 1440p.
the sock puppets really are trying to gas light us into believing this is "great value". It's over $800 here in Canada and that's over $900 all in for a "mid range" in 2024
Nvidia really did destroy a lot of goodwill with gamers with the 4070 being released as it was... as everyone keeps saying, this is clearly what the 4070 should have been but the price is still too high imo
Exactly when i was in the market looking for gpu I just got one. Every time i saw a 4070 non ti or lower 40 series i would just mentally throw up and turn away/ go somewhere else. I think a 2080ti performs better off the top of my head and is like $200
@@tallsz559 4070 in the gpu market is like ppl thinking chemtrails are a conspiracy theory or just air trails that stay there for hours and blow in the wind even when I look up and see them spraying shit every day then normal planes pass by and don't spray anything. Oh it's just heat trails naturally when there's like 100+ reputable resources explaining chemtrail weather modification cloud seeding geo engineering online even the head of CIA explains the operation. That’s the ppl who bought the 4070 in the gpu market if you get my comparison not putting evidence together and evaluating what else money can buy. I got a new msi trio 6950xt for $600 flat with tax and shipping included lol.
Super were probably ready for release when standard were for sale. They are holding back so they can milk more money. This is what happens when there isn't much competition in the GPU market.
Absolutely the killer feature of the 4070 for me was that most manufacturers released versions of it with single 8 pin connector. I think that is the most powerful card with 1 8 pin connector. But sure if you are buying a card now then go for super.
@@Ghostlynotme445 in fact, those who were waiting for the 50th line can now happily upgrade to new super cards. The 50 line will be released no earlier than in the fall of 2025 (1.5 years), and the maximum that will come out before them is 50/50ti and maybe 80ti (which will close the gap between 80super and 90), in fact there is nothing more to wait for
@@4doorsmorewhors how you don’t get you might have stick up your a$$ people might regret buying the 4070 ti $800 almost $1000 why they could of make it the real 4070 instead charge more for us for card that only have 12gb
Don't worry you're not along, and I bet that you've got it less then 550 usd. So you just got a bit less in performance. And still there is no real difference between 135 fps in forza5 or 160, and 42 or 49 fps in alan wake 2. Theese gpus are close. So don't blame yourself
the difference between 4070 and 4070 super is a bit more than the difference between 3070 and 3070ti. the power difference is also only an additional 25 watts vs. last gen's additional 50 watts the 3070ti really was a bad card. despite being the most powerful 8GB card to date, it is the worst in terms of price to performance to power draw ratio.
4070 Super have 1280 more cuda cores than 4070 (5,888) 3070ti have only 256 more cuda cores than 3070 (5,888) thats why 4070 super get more fps difference.
In Canada, the 4070 Super starts at $809.00 CAD. Factor in taxes (12% in some provinces) and it costs $907.20 overall. Found a 3 month old 4070 on marketplace for $650. Not terrible imo.
Nvidia's greed fked up the whole rtx 4000 series. The 4080 shouldve been 4070 with 16gigs vram. 4080 shouldve 20gigs vram with cuda cores (12 to 14k) somewhere between current 4090 and 4080. 4070 super with 12gigs is criminal. Fking greedy bastards. Also Mention the resolution in the title at which gpus are being tested
Yep, their greed is why I've bought 4 AMD cards in the past 2 years and no Nvidia card. I'm itching for another AMD card right now and have got the cash.
The only good 40 series card is the 4090. Everything else is gimped dogshit. Nvidia knows cutting down the vram is a foolproof way to make sure people will upgrade to the next gen when it arrives. It happened with the 3070 and 8gb, it will happen with the 4070 and 12gb and if people keep buying this shit we'll see it again with the 5070.
It's not really greed if consumers buy their products cuuse of idk FOMO?..kind of reminds me of the whole "don't preorder" cry for games..company markets product..people jump on the hype..buy..then realize it's not what they thought it was....repeat next cycle..and not learn from the past..
What's to be thankful for 12 gigabytes and +10-15% performance and +100$ dollars to the price? And the 5000 line is on its way. Omg, amd thank you very much. How did I live without you.
@@Titan_RTX they have the same price, what +100$ are u dreaming, there s literally less than 3% price difference for 15-20% performance; idk why u complain, it s literally top 3 gpu value rn, (price per frame)
@@oxaile4021 the 6800xt will be way slower, especially bcs of raytracing implementation in most games; the 16gb of vram won t help it; and it s still slower than a 4070S, it already is 30-40% slower in most games with raytracing
@@KoItai1 Ray tracing is and will be for many years to come AN OPTION. Stop eating this horsecrap from Nvidia, for God's sake. Stop wasting 600USD in a 12gb card in 2024, open your fucking eyes.
Pretty good, but this is just what the 4070 should've launched as. It's Nvidia trying to make us think we're getting a good deal. Step in the right direction however. It has definitely made me doubt whether to pick a 7800xt as my next upgrade now, as for 100 more I can get a superior feature set and now better performance. However nvidias software is bad so thats one doubt I have
How is it bad? 😂 I prefer its simplicity over the adrenalin software. The only feature I really like about adrenalin that Nvidia doesn't have is the Radeon chill.
@@clem9808does NVIDIA let you OC? I see everyone with NVIDA use afterburner which I don’t like it doesn’t work on my pc to oc. On adrenaline i can easily oc and tune my gpu. I got a new msi trio 6950xt for $600 with tax/shipping and oc it it runs way cooler and faster.
Only if u use max settings and there is no need for that plus TLOU is a PS5 exclusive(and u can set texture streaming to fast instead of fastest and you will be fine even with 10GB) those games are using more cause the PS5 can access total of 16GB but look at Starfield or Remnant UE5 they use only 8GB lol
@@jozadagames6818 The PS5 can acces about 12 out of 16GB, 4 are reserved for the system (it is a unified architecture). The PS5 does it so well because of many optimisations.
And what? Its middle end card. Amd 16gb and worst efficient and fps stable than nvidia. Im not nvidia fanboy but you are life its a joke. Bro nvidia gpu, processor amd. Intel only low end its good. Hight end intels trash efficient 14700/14900k..😂
@@rohanstormbanks7601 Yeah, I have an all white PC built and want a white 4070 which are normally a bit more expensive. Let‘s see how prices develop. Fingers crossed.
144op + 4o7o Super Cyberpunk 2o77 + 21,7% Alan Wake + 16,7% Forza 5 + 18,5% Starfield + 14,3% RDR II + 2o,6% Last of Us + 17,1% Flight Sim + 14,3% Avatar + 18,5% Hogwarts + 12,2% Remnant II + 14,5% ----- + 16,8%
RTX 4070 Super seems to be around 16% better than the RTX 4070 according to this video. Not bad at all taking into account in my country the 4070S is like 10% more expensive.
yeah, but it's what it should've been originally. marketing tactic by Nvidia to make us think we're getting a good deal. It's a step in the right direction though
@@DefineddIt's still a cut down card, it should have always had a 256 bit memory bus and 16GB vram, the kids saying this is a good value is a hard cope.
If you truly think that in the future 12GB VRAM in xx70 tiers are enough for 1440p max details, take a look at Alan Wake 2, TLOU, and Avatar even using DLSS
Ratchet and Clank with RT on at 4k and upscallers on also like DLSS - FSR Quality eats over 16gb vram lmao. and few other game that using close to 15gb vram at 4k. 16 gb vram should be the absolute minimum for 2024+ if u plan to play at res. over 1080p
Waiting for 4070ti super. Also, can i get a trade offer for my 4-5 month used 4070ti? I need a 4070ti super. It has 2.6 years of warranty period left. In prestine condition with box. (MSI Gaming X Trio version)
@@m8x425 already found a deal for 90k BDT (aprx 820 USD). But need slightly more. I know it's a good deal. But still running short on budget for the super version. A new 4070ti Gaming X Trio is 124k BDT here (1130$ aprx).
So, from what I'm seeing, there's a 15-20% performance increase going from the 4070 to the 4070S... Right now, an MSI RTX 4070 2x Ventus 12GB OC will run you about $550 on Newegg, while the MSI RTX 4070 Super 2x Ventus 12GB OC will run you about $610 on Newegg, just a hair better than a 10% cost increase, worth the investment IMO... As a side note, the MSI RTX 4070 Ti 2x Ventus 12GB OC goes for about $800 on Newegg...
Вообще результаты удручающие. Киберпанк 2077 без трассировки пути (Паф трейсинг) - 60 и 73 кадра. Алан Уэйк 2 с минимальной трассировкой и средневысокими настройками вообще - 42 и 49 кадров. Хогрвардс на ульрах хотя бы, но 49 и 55 кадров. Я понимаю, что можно включить генерацию кадров (фрейм генерейш) и всё такое, но фактически даже с DLSS запаса "прочности" у карт никакого нет. Я как раз подумаю над тем, чтоб взять 4070 S и 2к монитор, но блин, через год-полтора я и сам буду играть на средних. А ведь мы говорим о картах уже высшего "эшелона". На данный момент 4070 Super занимает 8-е место по производительности среди всех выпущенных карт NVidia по сегодняшний день, а она без генерации кадров не могут обеспечить 60 fps в 2к разрешении на максимальных настройках. Для меня важна трассировка и максимальные текстуры, я хочу видеть всё то, что заложил разработки в игру: текстуры, детализацию, свет, отражения и проч. Но получается, что даже 4070 S даже для 2к хватает с натяжкой, только через генерацию кадров можно получить 70-80 fps в этих играх. Жесть короче. In general, the results are depressing. Cyberpunk 2077 without path tracing (Paf tracing) - 60 and 73 frames. Alan Wake 2 with minimal tracing and medium-high settings in general - 42 and 49 frames. Hogrwards on ulras at least, but 49 and 55 frames. I understand that you can enable frame generation (frame genereish) and all that, but in fact even with DLSS the maps have no margin of "strength". I'm just thinking about getting a 4070 S and a 2k monitor, but damn, in a year and a half I'll be playing on medium. And we are talking about cards of the highest "echelon". At the moment 4070 Super ranks 8th in performance among all released NVidia cards to date, and she without frame generation can not provide 60 fps in 2k resolution at maximum settings. Tracing and max textures are important to me, I want to see everything that development has put into the game: textures, detail, light, reflections and so on. But it turns out that even 4070 S even for 2k is enough with a stretch, only through frame generation you can get 70-80 fps in these games. Tough.
No? Bad time to sell 40 series cards, prices are low due to the recent product refresh with the supers. The performance jump from 4070 to 4070S isn't worth spending money on either, never upgrade below 25% performance difference, ideally 50% or more. If you want to upgrade every generation, 50 series is just a few months away. If you prefer to keep hardware for a longer time and want to upgrade right now, 4070 Ti Super would probably be the next worthwhile step up. Fairly futureproof with the 16 gigs, and power consumption is higher but nothing outlandish. On average 36% faster than the 4070.
In my country the RTX 4070 costs 520 euros, the Super variant costs 600, you give 13.3333% more money to get around 15% more performance which is honestly fair, if you don't think the fact it has only 12gb of VRAM.
I just hate it when Cyberpunk2077 is tested on a cars! What is this race? Cyberpunk 2077 is a racing game, right?!! Or maybe there are action scenes? Yes, there are shootings and even slow mo... And there are even choreographed scenes... Why then do they constantly show driving toy car?!! 🖕🖕🖕 👎👎👎
Zotac RTX 4070 Super Twin Edge OC 12GB (WHITE) ₹63,990 Is what I’m planning to buy, will it be best for video editing and gaming at 2k at high/ultra high settings easily ?
21% cyberpunk 16.66% alan wake 2 18.51% forza horizon 5 14.28% starfield 20.61% rdr 2 17.10% last of us part 1 14.28% flight simulator 18.51% avatar 12.24% hogwarts legacy 14.49% remnant 2 Average=16.76%
*Your results were inconsistent across diff videos* Simple Example: Forza Horizon 4070 - 135fps VS 4070 S - 160fps 4070 S - 139fps VS 4070 Ti - 153fps ???
what this video does prove is that newer titles are either very resource hungry or very badly optimised, as the 4070s isn't outperforming the 4070 by a great deal on the latest titles like Alan Wake, Starfield or Hogwarts. Perhaps it's those missing 4gb vram and the sub 256bit bus being required much more in modern titles.
Mixed feelings after upgrading from a GTX 1080 to an RTX 4070ti for black friday. I waited instead when I wanted to upgrade to an RTX 20 and 30-something before though and was so dang tired of waiting again and again when new stuff kept came out. Can't complain about the performance but also wondering how much I cheated myself. :(
@@rowde83 yeah, basically. No matter what, waiting generally gets more performance for the money you're going to spend but they brought out the Supers right when I caved and it feels lame lol Eventually there'll always be new hardware. It just feels like bad timing on my part.
@@helpivefallen ahh ok yeah i know what you mean! prior to my gtx970 i had a gtx260 so it was a mutligenerational leap but my psu couldnt handle the 970 and my cpu bottlenecked it lol plus the whole fiasco about the 970 4gb ram really being 3.5gb irked me! i worry my next gpu will bottleneck something so a whole system refresh is in order
PATHETIC. Should be the same price as the regular 4070 if not cheaper to begin with. Anyone on 3070 doesn't need to upgrade to this half ass 40 series.
Nvidia tsmc production its fuckin awesome efficnient. Its soo much better than 3080 and only about 210watts draw! Its crazy... im wait for 3nm tsmc 5000 series maybe. 2025/2026? Great comparsion. Its like 3090 :O
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Games :
CYBERPUNK 2077 - 0:20 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesCP2077
Alan Wake 2 - 1:17
Forza Horizon 5 - 2:19 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5
Starfield - 3:19
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 4:22 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesRDR2
The Last of Us Part I - 5:33
Microsoft Flight Simulator - 6:35 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesMFS20
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora - 7:36
Hogwarts Legacy - 8:42 - gvo.deals/TG3HogwartsLegacy
Remnant 2 - 9:52
System:
Windows 11
Ryzen 7 7800X3D - bit.ly/43e3VxW
MSI MPG X670E CARBON
CPU Cooler - be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 - bit.ly/35G5atV
GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12GB - bit.ly/3S59r1n
GeForce RTX 4070 12GB - bit.ly/405fHYP
32Gb RAM DDR5 6000Mhz - bit.ly/3BOxlni
SSD - 2xSAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB - bit.ly/2NmWeQe
Power Supply CORSAIR RM850i 850W - bit.ly/3i2VoGI
People calling this a good value are proof that Nvidias marketing department is one of the best in the business
Exactly. And that's why I abandoned Nvidia a few years back to switch over to AMD. I have zero regrets doing so, and the value has been amazing.
@@notabotcommenter2408 That's true
I'm not huge fan of Nvidia but this card actually a good value,watch the hub review it ranks 3rd on price to performance(on msrp) list plus you will get better rt and better upscaller and other Nvidia features like rtx remix.The only drawback of this card is the vram but i think it will be fine for 1440p.
the sock puppets really are trying to gas light us into believing this is "great value". It's over $800 here in Canada and that's over $900 all in for a "mid range" in 2024
AMD just dropped *7900XT* price to *750$*🔥🔥🔥
ggwp nvidia. TRY HARDER NOW 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Nvidia really did destroy a lot of goodwill with gamers with the 4070 being released as it was... as everyone keeps saying, this is clearly what the 4070 should have been but the price is still too high imo
Exactly when i was in the market looking for gpu I just got one. Every time i saw a 4070 non ti or lower 40 series i would just mentally throw up and turn away/ go somewhere else. I think a 2080ti performs better off the top of my head and is like $200
It's still not the 4070 we should have got, it still lacks a full 256Bit memory bus and lacks 4GB of vram. It's 2024 not 2014.
Well people are buying plenty of 4070s, so seemed pretty successful to me 😅
@@tallsz559 4070 in the gpu market is like ppl thinking chemtrails are a conspiracy theory or just air trails that stay there for hours and blow in the wind even when I look up and see them spraying shit every day then normal planes pass by and don't spray anything. Oh it's just heat trails naturally when there's like 100+ reputable resources explaining chemtrail weather modification cloud seeding geo engineering online even the head of CIA explains the operation. That’s the ppl who bought the 4070 in the gpu market if you get my comparison not putting evidence together and evaluating what else money can buy. I got a new msi trio 6950xt for $600 flat with tax and shipping included lol.
@@mikem9536It has plenty of vram lol
4070S is what 4070 should be...
Nope. It should've had 16 GB of VRAM
@@Pawcio2115 Not only VRAM. 12 GB is more than enough for this chip btw. It's not 8K card, neither 4K.
should have been 4060Ti*
XX60 series has always been ~= XX80 of previous GEN
@@MrGeesikser not enough for 4K, it can play game 4K, 4070 powerful than 3080
Super were probably ready for release when standard were for sale. They are holding back so they can milk more money.
This is what happens when there isn't much competition in the GPU market.
It doesnt stop to amaze me how good the 7800x3d consumption is being so powerfull
Thank you for the timely tests without unnecessary talk!
they are not very accurate, look up his name online. I would go into more detail but don't want to set off his f!1t3.R.
imagine my face, I'm a person who bought an rtx 4070 exactly a month ago
Bro, I built my PC two days before the new year. Just 3 weeks...😞
I bought my 4070 last year in June but paid only $499 for the founders edition at Best Buy with coupon code discount.
Don't worry man, your 4070 will still be good, not to mention that the Super version is much more expensive.
@@H3ndrybruh they both same price
super version is any much better lmao
Absolutely the killer feature of the 4070 for me was that most manufacturers released versions of it with single 8 pin connector. I think that is the most powerful card with 1 8 pin connector. But sure if you are buying a card now then go for super.
Why you sound like drone the 4070 super should been the real 4070
@@Ghostlynotme445 in fact, those who were waiting for the 50th line can now happily upgrade to new super cards.
The 50 line will be released no earlier than in the fall of 2025 (1.5 years), and the maximum that will come out before them is 50/50ti and maybe 80ti (which will close the gap between 80super and 90), in fact there is nothing more to wait for
@@Ghostlynotme445 you guys are all saying the exact same thing for no reason.. I don't get it
@@4doorsmorewhors how you don’t get you might have stick up your a$$ people might regret buying the 4070 ti $800 almost $1000 why they could of make it the real 4070 instead charge more for us for card that only have 12gb
I'm watching this after I gave myself an RTX 4070 for New Year...
No, I'm not crying :*)
man I feel so frickin cheated. I will never in my life buy anything from Nvidia ever again. next upgrade 100% AMD
No need to compare, ENJOY. you got it and deserve it! Hope you get some deals when upgrading your PC in the next few years!!
😂 sorry to hear that man
Don't worry you're not along, and I bet that you've got it less then 550 usd. So you just got a bit less in performance.
And still there is no real difference between 135 fps in forza5 or 160, and 42 or 49 fps in alan wake 2. Theese gpus are close. So don't blame yourself
Same here, but got it for $509, Asus Dual OC... Great jump from GTX 960!
wow before this i was thinkining 4070 super will be 7-10 % faster but its actually way more 13-17% diference thats huge man
15% is not huge my man, 50% is.
shouldve been like this from launch......
@@mikem9536 You will NEVER get that with a Super refresh.
@@kaine9835 Been saying that for weeks now. Nvidia greedy and stingy.
@@mikem9536 Wrong, for a Super variant that's huge.
the difference between 4070 and 4070 super is a bit more than the difference between 3070 and 3070ti. the power difference is also only an additional 25 watts vs. last gen's additional 50 watts
the 3070ti really was a bad card. despite being the most powerful 8GB card to date, it is the worst in terms of price to performance to power draw ratio.
4070 Super have 1280 more cuda cores than 4070 (5,888)
3070ti have only 256 more cuda cores than 3070 (5,888)
thats why 4070 super get more fps difference.
I watched other channels, and their comparisons showed very different results.
In Canada, the 4070 Super starts at $809.00 CAD. Factor in taxes (12% in some provinces) and it costs $907.20 overall. Found a 3 month old 4070 on marketplace for $650. Not terrible imo.
Im going to do the same thing, 4070 super prices are more expensive than it should be in my country.
Nvidia's greed fked up the whole rtx 4000 series. The 4080 shouldve been 4070 with 16gigs vram. 4080 shouldve 20gigs vram with cuda cores (12 to 14k) somewhere between current 4090 and 4080. 4070 super with 12gigs is criminal.
Fking greedy bastards.
Also Mention the resolution in the title at which gpus are being tested
Yep, their greed is why I've bought 4 AMD cards in the past 2 years and no Nvidia card. I'm itching for another AMD card right now and have got the cash.
The only good 40 series card is the 4090. Everything else is gimped dogshit. Nvidia knows cutting down the vram is a foolproof way to make sure people will upgrade to the next gen when it arrives. It happened with the 3070 and 8gb, it will happen with the 4070 and 12gb and if people keep buying this shit we'll see it again with the 5070.
It's not really greed if consumers buy their products cuuse of idk FOMO?..kind of reminds me of the whole "don't preorder" cry for games..company markets product..people jump on the hype..buy..then realize it's not what they thought it was....repeat next cycle..and not learn from the past..
@@RicoOCHO85 You're confusing greed with covetousness (fomo). Both are evil.
At the end of every Test you can See that he tested it in 1440p
You can thank AMD for the Super cards.
What's to be thankful for 12 gigabytes and +10-15% performance and +100$ dollars to the price? And the 5000 line is on its way. Omg, amd thank you very much. How did I live without you.
@@Titan_RTX they have the same price, what +100$ are u dreaming, there s literally less than 3% price difference for 15-20% performance; idk why u complain, it s literally top 3 gpu value rn, (price per frame)
I'll be thanking AMD in about a year for giving my 6800 XT 16gb of vram instead of 12.
@@oxaile4021 the 6800xt will be way slower, especially bcs of raytracing implementation in most games; the 16gb of vram won t help it; and it s still slower than a 4070S, it already is 30-40% slower in most games with raytracing
@@KoItai1 Ray tracing is and will be for many years to come AN OPTION. Stop eating this horsecrap from Nvidia, for God's sake. Stop wasting 600USD in a 12gb card in 2024, open your fucking eyes.
Nice Comparison. I'm waiting for 4080 super vs 4080 and 4090.
>starfield ~65fps
>rdr2 ~100fps
Todd, please
It just works man. Amazing innit?
- Todd probably
16 times the frame drops
Pretty good, but this is just what the 4070 should've launched as. It's Nvidia trying to make us think we're getting a good deal. Step in the right direction however. It has definitely made me doubt whether to pick a 7800xt as my next upgrade now, as for 100 more I can get a superior feature set and now better performance. However nvidias software is bad so thats one doubt I have
How is it bad? 😂 I prefer its simplicity over the adrenalin software. The only feature I really like about adrenalin that Nvidia doesn't have is the Radeon chill.
@@clem9808 It looks like its from the early 2000s. it sucks, AMD is farrr superior in that regard and its something I am unsure about giving up
@@clem9808 Nvidia software isnt simple, its just bad with outdated ui design.
@@clem9808 Besides their bad UI design, it is software for very deep gpu tweaking but that UI style is difficult for normal users to get used to.
@@clem9808does NVIDIA let you OC? I see everyone with NVIDA use afterburner which I don’t like it doesn’t work on my pc to oc. On adrenaline i can easily oc and tune my gpu. I got a new msi trio 6950xt for $600 with tax/shipping and oc it it runs way cooler and faster.
Вроде и карты новые выходят, а фпс на месте топчится... прям подозрительно.
Good comparison video, I also like the choice of games you had in here. These are some of the most demanding and heavy hitters of today.
I'm curious to see how the 4070 Ti Super with 16GB performs
After 7900xt price cut it doesnt matter anymore 😂
ray tracing and dlss entered the chat@@notenjoying666
@@joelfernando1*crutches for another 199 dollar more
@@notenjoying666only to people who love dogshit rasterized lighting
@@notenjoying666 keep spamming, who gonna buy that shit when the 4070ti super is stronger than it?
i hate Nvidia for this.. my 4070 is not a year old and they releases this
How about the people that bought an RTX 2070, then 9 months later Nvidia releases the 2070 Super for the same price.
@@m8x425 stupid too
Don't feel too bad, this GPU is basically just your GPU with a 10% overclock.
bro its always like this.
Well I bought a 4070 last summer.. ima be keeping it for many years.
yeah too late to replace this 4070 Super
dudes on that chat crying about their 10 fps diff.
you good homie you not gonna realize it whatsoever
it does matter though example 50 vs 65 will be very different in experience
i found that 90 to 120 also similar
glad I'm the 1st watcher of 4060 vs 4070 video
ok, now go back to your basement!
@@AzusaSnowflake i don't have any basement 😂
It's a nice GPU... but already 2 of the 10 games use more then 11GB Vram 😢
Only if u use max settings and there is no need for that plus TLOU is a PS5 exclusive(and u can set texture streaming to fast instead of fastest and you will be fine even with 10GB) those games are using more cause the PS5 can access total of 16GB but look at Starfield or Remnant UE5 they use only 8GB lol
okay and?
@@jozadagames6818 The PS5 can acces about 12 out of 16GB, 4 are reserved for the system (it is a unified architecture). The PS5 does it so well because of many optimisations.
Still 12 GB of VRAM 🤣
And what? Its middle end card. Amd 16gb and worst efficient and fps stable than nvidia. Im not nvidia fanboy but you are life its a joke. Bro nvidia gpu, processor amd. Intel only low end its good. Hight end intels trash efficient 14700/14900k..😂
@@furieux6742 I'll laugh at you in about 3 years when 12 GB of VRAM won't be enough for 1440p
@@furieux6742Learn English.
@@furieux6742"I'm not a Nvidia fanboy"
Then proceeds to reply to every single criticism
Your life a bigger joke dude lmao
@@OneFreeMan17 i dont need. Im not imigration my country :)
I am hoping for price drops for the regular 4070 now. The closer it gets to 500 bucks, the better.
I recently got one for $509; seems retailers are desperate 2 clear 4070 stocks out...
@@rohanstormbanks7601 Hm, in Germany I do not see this yet. The ones that I am interested in are still way above 600 bucks, often like 650-680… :(
@@runfrankfurt It shud drop; I got the Asus Dual fan model, the 2.5 slot card... 3 fan bigger cards are a lot xpensive...
@@rohanstormbanks7601 Yeah, I have an all white PC built and want a white 4070 which are normally a bit more expensive. Let‘s see how prices develop. Fingers crossed.
@@runfrankfurt Yup, white ones are... Here they are $549... Seems like a white tax...
Nvidia got caught selling trash, again...
144op + 4o7o Super
Cyberpunk 2o77 + 21,7%
Alan Wake + 16,7%
Forza 5 + 18,5%
Starfield + 14,3%
RDR II + 2o,6%
Last of Us + 17,1%
Flight Sim + 14,3%
Avatar + 18,5%
Hogwarts + 12,2%
Remnant II + 14,5%
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+ 16,8%
Resume: If you already have a 4070 it makes 0 sense change it for a 4070S, if you hesit for one of both it makes 0 sense take a 4070.
yeah, wait for 5070 that will have 16gb vram
It makes zero sense to buy this card when there's already better options.
@@mikem9536 rx7800 xt if all you do is gaming and you dont care about power consumption
Imma wait for either rtx 5000, rx 8000 and when the 7900 xt reaches the €600-650 price poit here in europe
@@Petersson69 But that card is slower, has worse upscaling, even lower RT performance, and more power draw. Not really a comparison.
rah I bought the 4070 3 weeks ago. Now the 4070s costs the same and is 15% faster. I feel fucked
@WITCHKILLER_I’m getting one for my first pc I been saving since 2020 after I use it for some times you can have it for £550
you should include 4070ti in the comparison
Isn’t there a 4070ti super coming? I believe that one is same price then 4080 super is 999 which is less than 4080
+10% PWR +10% FPS. Another brick in the wall...
RTX 4070 Super seems to be around 16% better than the RTX 4070 according to this video. Not bad at all taking into account in my country the 4070S is like 10% more expensive.
Thank you. This is the math that is one of my metrics for "value" and the Super certainly provides that in this context
Aaaaahhh, welcome back! Your channel is finally restored! 💪
Super seems to offer value
yeah, but it's what it should've been originally. marketing tactic by Nvidia to make us think we're getting a good deal. It's a step in the right direction though
@@Defineddsmart ass
$650? 😂
Here in india after all the taxes plus sellers keeping their own profit the final price will be around $770-$800 no joke@@phantom0590
@@DefineddIt's still a cut down card, it should have always had a 256 bit memory bus and 16GB vram, the kids saying this is a good value is a hard cope.
@TestingGames great video as usual. I would like to see a comp between 4070S and 4070 ti (regular non S). Thanks
The 4070 SUPER is the 4070 that never was.
Super is just an overclocked version.
@@mikem9536 4070 Super have 1280 more cuda cores than 4070, just 512 cuda core less than 4070ti
@mikem9536 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
think you could test it vs the 6950xt?
not necessary the 6950xt gets cooked
$600 for 12GB 🤣🤣🤣
Cry babe cry... amd need more ram to going catch nvidia 😂 its middle card not high end..
@@furieux6742the 7600xt is gonna have 16gb but alright
@@AncientED5 and? 🤣🫡
@@furieux6742 NVIDIA fanboy detected... have fun paying $600 only to be VRAM limited in the upcoming games at 1440p 😆
@@laszlozsurka8991 What upcoming games? AMdumb
Rtx 4070 super looks promising 👌
It would be nice to see a comparison between rtx 3080ti vs 4070 super.🥰
It would be same imo
In EU the price difference is 120€ lol from 550€ to 669€
yes this prix is no where
In USA, $30~50
@@KelvinKMS i love USA just because of the computer prices there, i could just take my Euro exchange them to dollars and get the things cheaper 😅
Dont forget, they wanted to market the OG 4070 as the 4080
that was the 4070ti they wanted to sell as the 4080 12GB
thats was the 4070 ti
If you truly think that in the future 12GB VRAM in xx70 tiers are enough for 1440p max details, take a look at Alan Wake 2, TLOU, and Avatar even using DLSS
Ratchet and Clank with RT on at 4k and upscallers on also like DLSS - FSR Quality eats over 16gb vram lmao. and few other game that using close to 15gb vram at 4k.
16 gb vram should be the absolute minimum for 2024+ if u plan to play at res. over 1080p
avatar runs fine at 1440p even on 8GB cards.
I bought a 4070 1,5 months ago ☹️
Me too 😔
Still remains a Horrible value
4070 ≈775-780$ 4070s ≈785-790$
100 dollar i will wait for next generation.
I went with the palit geforce rtx 4070 super 12gb for £580 in the end
must be nice living in a 1st world country land of opportunities
As allways, thank you for good testing.
4070s is what 4060 should've been
Thanks for the benchmarks!
Waiting for 4070ti super. Also, can i get a trade offer for my 4-5 month used 4070ti? I need a 4070ti super. It has 2.6 years of warranty period left. In prestine condition with box. (MSI Gaming X Trio version)
Which country are you from ?
@@Iconic11111 BD.
About the best thing you'll be able to do is list it in a local 2nd hand marketplace and maybe someone will buy it.
@@m8x425 already found a deal for 90k BDT (aprx 820 USD). But need slightly more. I know it's a good deal. But still running short on budget for the super version. A new 4070ti Gaming X Trio is 124k BDT here (1130$ aprx).
Super is inferior to the Ti🤭
So, from what I'm seeing, there's a 15-20% performance increase going from the 4070 to the 4070S...
Right now, an MSI RTX 4070 2x Ventus 12GB OC will run you about $550 on Newegg,
while the MSI RTX 4070 Super 2x Ventus 12GB OC will run you about $610 on Newegg,
just a hair better than a 10% cost increase, worth the investment IMO...
As a side note, the MSI RTX 4070 Ti 2x Ventus 12GB OC goes for about $800 on Newegg...
Only if you didn't buy 4070 before.
Вообще результаты удручающие.
Киберпанк 2077 без трассировки пути (Паф трейсинг) - 60 и 73 кадра.
Алан Уэйк 2 с минимальной трассировкой и средневысокими настройками вообще - 42 и 49 кадров.
Хогрвардс на ульрах хотя бы, но 49 и 55 кадров.
Я понимаю, что можно включить генерацию кадров (фрейм генерейш) и всё такое, но фактически даже с DLSS запаса "прочности" у карт никакого нет.
Я как раз подумаю над тем, чтоб взять 4070 S и 2к монитор, но блин, через год-полтора я и сам буду играть на средних. А ведь мы говорим о картах уже высшего "эшелона". На данный момент 4070 Super занимает 8-е место по производительности среди всех выпущенных карт NVidia по сегодняшний день, а она без генерации кадров не могут обеспечить 60 fps в 2к разрешении на максимальных настройках.
Для меня важна трассировка и максимальные текстуры, я хочу видеть всё то, что заложил разработки в игру: текстуры, детализацию, свет, отражения и проч. Но получается, что даже 4070 S даже для 2к хватает с натяжкой, только через генерацию кадров можно получить 70-80 fps в этих играх. Жесть короче.
In general, the results are depressing.
Cyberpunk 2077 without path tracing (Paf tracing) - 60 and 73 frames.
Alan Wake 2 with minimal tracing and medium-high settings in general - 42 and 49 frames.
Hogrwards on ulras at least, but 49 and 55 frames.
I understand that you can enable frame generation (frame genereish) and all that, but in fact even with DLSS the maps have no margin of "strength".
I'm just thinking about getting a 4070 S and a 2k monitor, but damn, in a year and a half I'll be playing on medium. And we are talking about cards of the highest "echelon". At the moment 4070 Super ranks 8th in performance among all released NVidia cards to date, and she without frame generation can not provide 60 fps in 2k resolution at maximum settings.
Tracing and max textures are important to me, I want to see everything that development has put into the game: textures, detail, light, reflections and so on. But it turns out that even 4070 S even for 2k is enough with a stretch, only through frame generation you can get 70-80 fps in these games. Tough.
this is best channel for benchmarks, thanks man
rtx 4070 super vs rx 7800 xt?
50$ difference should I bought the super vesion ?
in my country 4070 super is cheaper than rtx 4070
The super is $600 now so it's worth getting the extra 15 FPS for $50
RTX 4070 SUPER 600$ RTX 4070 NOW 800$
Resolution?
1440p
4070 super uses 18-20watts more power. Can you overclock the 4070 and save $50 ?
Power limit strangles these cards...
I bought a 4070 last september should i sell it and upgrade to the super version?
No? Bad time to sell 40 series cards, prices are low due to the recent product refresh with the supers. The performance jump from 4070 to 4070S isn't worth spending money on either, never upgrade below 25% performance difference, ideally 50% or more.
If you want to upgrade every generation, 50 series is just a few months away. If you prefer to keep hardware for a longer time and want to upgrade right now, 4070 Ti Super would probably be the next worthwhile step up. Fairly futureproof with the 16 gigs, and power consumption is higher but nothing outlandish. On average 36% faster than the 4070.
Thx for response.
the 4070 super is what the 4070 should have been
just wait for the rtx 5000 series come out lol
@@w9s992 well I'm not looking to upgrade anytime soon anyways :D
And now NV will release 4070 with DDR6 so we will not see that much price drop that will be otherwise after 5Xseries release
In my country the RTX 4070 costs 520 euros, the Super variant costs 600, you give 13.3333% more money to get around 15% more performance which is honestly fair, if you don't think the fact it has only 12gb of VRAM.
get yourself a 7800xt and save $100 much better value anyway
let's hope 5060 performs as good as 4070 super
Why don't you update the games to the latest patch?
I just hate it when Cyberpunk2077 is tested on a cars! What is this race? Cyberpunk 2077 is a racing game, right?!! Or maybe there are action scenes? Yes, there are shootings and even slow mo... And there are even choreographed scenes... Why then do they constantly show driving toy car?!!
🖕🖕🖕
👎👎👎
Lol
Do I get a amd gpu or 4070..
4070s 600$, 7800xt 500-540$ chose between them.
For the previous-gen, 6800xt 430-500$ or 6950xt 550-570$
All of them is really good value.
4070s any day, all amd is good for is to play tertis at 2000 fps
This video is kinda misleading… The 4070 Super is priced at 599 msrp and you can buy it off their website for that
Zotac RTX 4070 Super Twin Edge OC 12GB (WHITE)
₹63,990
Is what I’m planning to buy, will it be best for video editing and gaming at 2k at high/ultra high settings easily ?
get a sapphire rx 7800 xt
21% cyberpunk
16.66% alan wake 2
18.51% forza horizon 5
14.28% starfield
20.61% rdr 2
17.10% last of us part 1
14.28% flight simulator
18.51% avatar
12.24% hogwarts legacy
14.49% remnant 2
Average=16.76%
We want to compare 4080 ws 4080 Super
Yeah here in my country, the 4070S is $200 more expensive than the 7800 XT
Yey! 10% more performance with 10% more frequency, and 10% more consumption.
20%*
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Why in some of the games the 4070 Super is consuming more VRAM than 4070?...
Because she needs to draw more frames
@@Ramses_7879 So, the 4070 super will run out of VRAM faster than the 4070 stock?...
@@rohanstormbanks7601 The difference in most games is within the margin of error, don't worry about it
@@Ramses_7879 I actually own the Stock 4070... Got it for $510
Just get the 7800xt instead
pc gamers like to be exploited when it comes to gpus
*Your results were inconsistent across diff videos*
Simple Example: Forza Horizon
4070 - 135fps VS 4070 S - 160fps
4070 S - 139fps VS 4070 Ti - 153fps
???
by seeing your test looks like there is a 13 to 22% difference depending on the game.
consumption of the new card is 10% higher. Maybe this is where productivity increases lie?
in non clown world this card should be a 4060 Ti and cost 369€
Yep, this is really a 4060 Super in disguise, the people calling this a good value are simply not good with money.
100% correct. the 4060 & 4060 ti should NOT even exist the 4070 super shouldve been the base 4070.
So 4070 super is an overclocked 4070 😮
what this video does prove is that newer titles are either very resource hungry or very badly optimised, as the 4070s isn't outperforming the 4070 by a great deal on the latest titles like Alan Wake, Starfield or Hogwarts. Perhaps it's those missing 4gb vram and the sub 256bit bus being required much more in modern titles.
Mixed feelings after upgrading from a GTX 1080 to an RTX 4070ti for black friday. I waited instead when I wanted to upgrade to an RTX 20 and 30-something before though and was so dang tired of waiting again and again when new stuff kept came out. Can't complain about the performance but also wondering how much I cheated myself. :(
is it the cost vs performance that bugs you? im still chugging along on my GTX970 and at this stage i need a whole new system upgrade
@@rowde83 yeah, basically. No matter what, waiting generally gets more performance for the money you're going to spend but they brought out the Supers right when I caved and it feels lame lol
Eventually there'll always be new hardware. It just feels like bad timing on my part.
@@helpivefallen ahh ok yeah i know what you mean! prior to my gtx970 i had a gtx260 so it was a mutligenerational leap but my psu couldnt handle the 970 and my cpu bottlenecked it lol plus the whole fiasco about the 970 4gb ram really being 3.5gb irked me! i worry my next gpu will bottleneck something so a whole system refresh is in order
what to upgrade to from RTX2080?
processor (i9900к / power supply 750 watts, monitor 34" 3440x1440, VR Meta Quest 3)
4080 super
PATHETIC. Should be the same price as the regular 4070 if not cheaper to begin with. Anyone on 3070 doesn't need to upgrade to this half ass 40 series.
yeah i dont wanna spend 500 dollrs more than i did on my 3070 for a real upgrade like 4080 super.
compare it with 4070 ti
Just think if there’s no amd, nvidia would never improve their gpu😂
You should put the witcher 3 either 😅
4070S clock is kinda low in this test.
Just ordered my 4070 Super. Good paying jobs are awesome.
job?
Nvidia tsmc production its fuckin awesome efficnient. Its soo much better than 3080 and only about 210watts draw! Its crazy... im wait for 3nm tsmc 5000 series maybe. 2025/2026? Great comparsion. Its like 3090 :O
Just stop, it's slightly better then the stock 4070, comparing it to a 3090 is simply wrong.