I own both as a vet expert off road racer. As a motorcycle in general, the Africa Twin wins for me hands down. They're not even in the same class. But as far as "which is better off road", it's easy to lean toward the T7 because numbers and media influence have pushed us that way, but as far as I'm concerned they're practically identical. Both big heavy behemoths that can be pushed to go wherever if you really need to, but it doesn't take long to get to the point where I would not call it fun. They're a novelty off-road for sure, and laughable to someone who rides, trains, and races on actual race bikes. The reality is that they're dirt road princesses but some people have mental illness that leads them to take on impossible tasks, like riding a 500lb motorcycle in difficult terrain. But let's get on with it. The T7 can be pushed harder in fast sections on the stock suspension. The AT is much easier to handle in slow technical terrain because the stock suspension is remarkably good there. The T7, with it's "anti squat" is harder to handle in the sand because it keeps pushing it's ass end up in the air and won't settle. The T7 is fun to ride in tight twisty roads, but it's fun like a 125. Screaming engine and grabbing gears like a madman, but you're not going half as fast as you feel like you are lol. The AT is faster and it's so drama-free it's easier to get into trouble. The AT is a little harder to find traction when you're really trying to get on it in mud or loose marble gravel roads, but we're talking half a bike-length here between the 2 bikes. The T7 is so top heavy that slippery or slow technical terrain really makes you pucker. You can feel it trying to pull itself to china when you really lean it over coming into a corner, and you have to be really aggressive with body language and throttle to keep it upright, which can be unnerving with such a big bike with mediocre tires (insert street legal tire) in the dirt. The AT is easier to ride than the T7. Let me make a statement here: A good bike can get the job done, a GREAT bike can get the job done without drama and without wearing you out. The T7 gives me significantly more "oh shit" moments when I'm unexpectedly catapulted sideways into the air from some little unseen edge or rock. This deflection happens a little too often, leading to trust issues and so it puts me on guard whenever I'm coming into something tricky at speed. I can ride more efficiently on the AT and therefore longer before I need to go into energy save mode and dial back the pace for a minute (vet problems). The T7 is more reliable. I had starting issues and suspension damage on my AT the second year of riding it. The T7 gets moody and doesn't want to start sometimes but always started eventually. Finally, the T7 looks better, with it's little dakar suit on. I've had a lot of fun on both. I bought the T7 because I thought it'd be a better fit for me as an off-roader. It wasn't. Soon after bringing it home I realized it was a mistake because it was a significant downgrade from the AT. After the honeymoon phase it actually sat in my shop untouched for a couple years before I forced myself to ride it again (shit or get off the pot). Yamaha slapped together a budget adventure bike from the MT-07, spent most of the development budget on appearance, and produced a MASSIVELY successful marketing campaign. Now they're selling it at premium prices. I'm actually shocked at how many people gush over this bike. Ownership bias I guess.
had 2019 AT and loved it. used it for everything and did everything. was harder to manage offroad due to weight. thats the reason i bought a T7 extreme. having owned both i can say this: if you wana go mild offroad (i went also not so mild parts fine) AT is better. is a more premium bike better built, travels alot better even with passenger, stronger engine and handles things just fine. Downside is the weight and that is more expensive to maintain and to repair if you brake anything. having the T7 4 months now, i ride it harder, i compromised on traveling when on highways, had to change seat and bring it closer to my needs (190 height) but i really enjoy it. even if i mess the plastics you can get an entire set for 250euro. if you dont plan going alot offroad go for the honda. if your plan has Alot dirt, go t7
I hae a CFMoto 45- coming in this week. So stoked about that for now. I have a Yammie Bolt for city riding and love it. If I could afford the AT I would get. but I would have to sell the Bolt. Lets see if the CFMoto 45-0 quinches my need for a punchy off road bike! The reason I am partial the AT and CFMoto is the seat heigth is more in line with average height riders than the T7 which is definetly for taller riders. Off road there are many times if you are riding challenging terrain that you will need to easily get both feet down or one without leaning to much. MHO! great vid pls continue the good work!!!!
I'm having to stop at "I wouldn't say the africa twin feels faster". The africa twin is absolutely rapid compared to the T7. I've test rode both within a week of each other recently. If you want to enjoy riding hard then the T7 is great. For me the africa twin is road bike fast even in offroad mode, far to fast and aggressive. The more power your have the more you use.
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Title should read "Tenere vs Africa Twin recommendation from blokes who have ridden them only once, briefly" Anything goes on TH-cam.
I own both as a vet expert off road racer. As a motorcycle in general, the Africa Twin wins for me hands down. They're not even in the same class. But as far as "which is better off road", it's easy to lean toward the T7 because numbers and media influence have pushed us that way, but as far as I'm concerned they're practically identical. Both big heavy behemoths that can be pushed to go wherever if you really need to, but it doesn't take long to get to the point where I would not call it fun. They're a novelty off-road for sure, and laughable to someone who rides, trains, and races on actual race bikes. The reality is that they're dirt road princesses but some people have mental illness that leads them to take on impossible tasks, like riding a 500lb motorcycle in difficult terrain. But let's get on with it.
The T7 can be pushed harder in fast sections on the stock suspension. The AT is much easier to handle in slow technical terrain because the stock suspension is remarkably good there. The T7, with it's "anti squat" is harder to handle in the sand because it keeps pushing it's ass end up in the air and won't settle. The T7 is fun to ride in tight twisty roads, but it's fun like a 125. Screaming engine and grabbing gears like a madman, but you're not going half as fast as you feel like you are lol. The AT is faster and it's so drama-free it's easier to get into trouble. The AT is a little harder to find traction when you're really trying to get on it in mud or loose marble gravel roads, but we're talking half a bike-length here between the 2 bikes. The T7 is so top heavy that slippery or slow technical terrain really makes you pucker. You can feel it trying to pull itself to china when you really lean it over coming into a corner, and you have to be really aggressive with body language and throttle to keep it upright, which can be unnerving with such a big bike with mediocre tires (insert street legal tire) in the dirt. The AT is easier to ride than the T7. Let me make a statement here: A good bike can get the job done, a GREAT bike can get the job done without drama and without wearing you out. The T7 gives me significantly more "oh shit" moments when I'm unexpectedly catapulted sideways into the air from some little unseen edge or rock. This deflection happens a little too often, leading to trust issues and so it puts me on guard whenever I'm coming into something tricky at speed. I can ride more efficiently on the AT and therefore longer before I need to go into energy save mode and dial back the pace for a minute (vet problems). The T7 is more reliable. I had starting issues and suspension damage on my AT the second year of riding it. The T7 gets moody and doesn't want to start sometimes but always started eventually. Finally, the T7 looks better, with it's little dakar suit on.
I've had a lot of fun on both. I bought the T7 because I thought it'd be a better fit for me as an off-roader. It wasn't. Soon after bringing it home I realized it was a mistake because it was a significant downgrade from the AT. After the honeymoon phase it actually sat in my shop untouched for a couple years before I forced myself to ride it again (shit or get off the pot). Yamaha slapped together a budget adventure bike from the MT-07, spent most of the development budget on appearance, and produced a MASSIVELY successful marketing campaign. Now they're selling it at premium prices. I'm actually shocked at how many people gush over this bike. Ownership bias I guess.
No comparison. Silly....
had 2019 AT and loved it. used it for everything and did everything.
was harder to manage offroad due to weight. thats the reason i bought a T7 extreme.
having owned both i can say this: if you wana go mild offroad (i went also not so mild parts fine) AT is better. is a more premium bike better built, travels alot better even with passenger, stronger engine and handles things just fine. Downside is the weight and that is more expensive to maintain and to repair if you brake anything.
having the T7 4 months now, i ride it harder, i compromised on traveling when on highways, had to change seat and bring it closer to my needs (190 height) but i really enjoy it. even if i mess the plastics you can get an entire set for 250euro.
if you dont plan going alot offroad go for the honda. if your plan has Alot dirt, go t7
Both top heavy adventure bikes and for shorter riders, very difficult to pick up
I hae a CFMoto 45- coming in this week. So stoked about that for now. I have a Yammie Bolt for city riding and love it. If I could afford the AT I would get. but I would have to sell the Bolt. Lets see if the CFMoto 45-0 quinches my need for a punchy off road bike! The reason I am partial the AT and CFMoto is the seat heigth is more in line with average height riders than the T7 which is definetly for taller riders. Off road there are many times if you are riding challenging terrain that you will need to easily get both feet down or one without leaning to much. MHO! great vid pls continue the good work!!!!
I'm having to stop at "I wouldn't say the africa twin feels faster".
The africa twin is absolutely rapid compared to the T7. I've test rode both within a week of each other recently. If you want to enjoy riding hard then the T7 is great. For me the africa twin is road bike fast even in offroad mode, far to fast and aggressive. The more power your have the more you use.
T7 and it really isn't even close.
Put a 1989 xrv 650 africa twin instead a 1100...for offroad use,less is always more! That is what engineers forgot nowadays
No so silly...i am between those two bikes right know
What a stupid comparison omg…
Always the lighter one
A 125cc is even better than tenere
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