There are so many Genshin players LOOKING for a reason to come back to the game But when the devs view every new addition as some cringe negotiation where they have to extract something out of the player in exchange? It's been 4 years. It's exhausting. Stop treating your players like garbage.
they are extremely shady with the QoL in hoyoverse, for example, the 50 50 thing, it seem pretty clear right, they even say it in the explanation of the wish system, is 55 45... WRONG is not, the 50 50 remains the same, the only thing that changes is that now, if you lose 2 50 50 in a row, that would be, 240 wishes, the next 50 50 is not a 50 50, is a 75 25, and if you loss that, then is a 100 0, so yeah in the long run like 10000 wishes you average it to 55 45, but is not really a 55 45, is a whale thing, a copium almost for f2p to say "well i have 5% more chance" no you dont, if i had 1 word to define hoyoverse it would be stingy, and if had 2, it would be stingily deceptive
@@saintontas yeah and it keeps hapening over and over specially in genshin, i dont play zzz nor hsr, but the new endgame came... but we still had only two instances of endgame, instead of 2 abyss resets and 1 theater reset we had 1 reset of each, basically meaning there is no new endgame, just replaced one instance of endgame with another, we increased the resin to 200 but it refreshes at the same rate, automatic dialogues... but no skip button and you still have to choose between 2 meaningless dialogue options of your character that dont even have a voice just so you dont walk away from the game and squeeze all your time, the only QoL that came with no but atached was the expedited dailys, that is the only thing that came with no, but or string atached, but it took them 4 years
Funny thing is: Even that is just a theory of players. Hoyoverse never disclosed how the new wish system works, thus your comment is also just a guess😂 Have you seen apple hide their new iphone’s price and customer does the math to figure out how much the new iphone is? It’s so absurd
After i played wuwa i never went back to genshin. Mind you i played since launch of genshin. Hoyo is so focus with the $$ rather than the game itself and its player base. That so called quality of life from genahin is more like quantitiy of money the devs would have in thier pockets.😂🤣
@@Crispymantis123i always sees hoyo as a greedy company who's that much of a money grabber- i mean i understand the word business but the dev-player relationship from them is so toxic, no way im spending a cent to support them though they're really good at handling and hyping their things up so i wont disregard their "free" game completely just because but overall hoyo is shitass company who'm i personally wanna see get humbled by other company on the same category.
In WuWa you get so much more gameplay from limited characters that, if you can spend, you should spend at least to pull for every single one. Imagine Zhongli, a limited 5*, with his only gameplay being to swap onto his character, hold a button, and then pretend he doesn't exist for 20 seconds. People pay money for this gameplay in Genshin Impact.
@@saintontas So far I have 1 copy of every single char and their weapon (except for Changli's, which I missed by 3 pulls). And the only thing I regret is not having enough resources to upgrade them all (as of yet) My Wind Team is severely undercooked.
Such a shame how Hoyo has such a huge market share in the gacha space, i see all the numbers Genshin and HSR are pulling and wish this could've been Wuwa cuz they really deserve it.
They could have turned out like hoyo if they were in that position. Right now they are fighting so hard because they have an uphill battle, going against the biggest gacha of the last 4+ years. The competition is bringing out their competitive side to win the gacha fight. And it's perfect for us consumers 😉. Let genshin sweat a little while wuwa is coming for them, let wuwa work extra hard to make a great game better by needing to try to match/surpass genshin's size. Either way, win win for us. I can play both gachas at the same time. It's up to them to vye for my money though since I can't SPEND on both of them.
@@luckytanuki5449 why you keep playing genshlt bro? like, i just don't get how many ppl prefer that game, i tried to play for 3 months and after a while i realized how fukn slow my progress would be with all the rng in artifacts and how expensive or time consuming the premium currency is
The reason hoyo is raking in cash despite their crappy games is simply cause it's highly predatory. Wuwa gives reason to spend on it. The only reason i even buy the monthly pass and battlepass on wuwa is cause i pity the devs and really wanna support them.
A whale will need to spend more money in hoyo games than in wuwa because the monetization is more predatory. Plus just having one new 5 star in version 1.3 gives a lot of "free to play"players enough time to save for 1.4 but sadly this will hurt WuWa financially.
I almost re-downloaded Genshin due to the fact that I'm bored while waiting for my waveplates to regen, but I don't think I should. I don't enjoy Genshin, I'm just on that level of boredom. But Mihoyo's games feel bad to play. Your time feels disrespected. YOU feel disrespected. You find yourself dreading opening their games instead of having a good time. Wuthering Waves feels great to play. I definitely want to spend money on it in the future. Currently, I have no money, so that isn't an option, but I can dream.
don't man, I redownloaded it and it was the biggest disappointment ever, I can't enjoy anything about it. I can't even catch up to any of the new content because everything else takes so long. unless hoyoverse replaces their whole dev team with one that actually cares, there is no hope for the game
I quite literally tried going back to genshin for 3 days just to be constantly stuck in cutscenes of chars talking for 10 mins at a time, each time I just closed the game after the cutscenes ended. Then when trying to get around the chasm (I stopped some months after first anni, just before chasm released), I just got annoyed trying to climb stuff. Not worth the time or effort. Only hoyo game I play atm is honkai star rail, but the day kuro makes a turn based game... :p
@@mrflakey6163 The problem usually lies with the executives and not devs. Actual devs usually have little to no creative control over the product in such large companies.
The other day I redownload HSR while playing WuWa. While installing I foresee the pain and suffering of building characters, getting trash relics, going through the story, boring events, boring gameplay with only two selectable option for a turn based game (make it three with ultimate) and the simulated universe weekly chore (even with Acheron QoL). Oh my! This isn't worth it so I had to cancel and delete it completely again on my computer lol. Sorry if you like HSR. That game isn't just for me, personal preference. But I don't mind those who like it.
Will always support the hoyo slander. The money i spent on them is my biggest regret. Like yeah i got unreal lucky with almost all my pulls but the game is still garbage and has not improved.
Exactly, one of my biggest regrets nowadays is that I spent money on Mihoyo. If at least I had played it F2P, it wouldn't be too valuable for them. F2P exists just for too things: Sense of popularity when you go to coop and see a bunch of people on the team, and engagement for social media, such like seeing TH-cam videos of content creators or the game itself. Engagement is inevitable, even if you're a hater, one time or another you're going to see a video of the game you hate. And about engagement, it's important, but literally not the final objective. Popularity won't bring more investors, unless one of them do a bet on a possible product that will sell well, they're just attracted to actual MONEY, not number of players. If the game has 1 million of players, it doesn't matter when the revenue is less than a couple of thousands of dollars. So, playing the game is just a stair that can - or not - lead the company to the final objective that is selling things. Basically: differently from what people like to say, F2P people are not the "ultimate contributors" to the game, and I would have liked to stay like that during my time playing it.
I loved PGR for like 6-12 months. The story was kinda hard to follow and I lost interest or got busy but I‘ll always remember it as one of the best gachas in existence. It was also extremely generous and I was able to get basically every character as F2P player.
genshin is truly hoyo's cash cow. they do qol in every other game they make but genshin. its also the one that usually make the most money too( i know hsr is pretty much making the same now, and zzz is still "new"). it blows my mind how it still makes so much tbh. they got their players wrapped around their pinky. its the iphone of gacha games it feels.
Kuro: I'm an underdog because I'm doing what the industry should do as a standard. Edit: let's be honest, it's no secret that MiHoyo was built up from the "give men/players a pretty girl that will love them and they'll pay" philosophy. Yes. They may have done some interesting games but their interest are pure money and with little to no competition (in the past) they won't do anything. Now they have serious competition and they either underdeliver and go the Destiny route or they adapt and do what they know they have to.
For me, once wuwa released, genshin just died for me. I never came back to it after... Sure i tried, but I felt disgusted. I couldn't believe i enjoyed that game. And after 120 fps update. Genshin just doesn't exist anymore in my eyes.
@@kasmichanConsidering how everyone gravitated towards the MC regardless of which sex they are,is kinda funny. I remember someone joking that Wuwa is secretly a dating sim.
wuwa just needs to release longer content to fill the void in the last half of every patch. I really liked depth of illusive realm and if they expand on that with more levels and variations it would be great. honestly with how well they've received all their feedback I have no doubt they will do something about it.
I'd honestly love them to have some kind of World Boss walking around the overworld that resets every week that gives you a crystal solvent and 5-10 random echoes for killing it. It'd also be cool if the boss got stronger for every player in Co-Op, and gave out more echoes if you're in a team.
It does seem like they're planning to add more permanent game modes in the future, the first year of any gacha game is always the roughest, so I'm sure they will get there in time.
@@saintontas I'd be happy with anything as long as it makes me want to keep playing the game. and not in a similar way as genshin that makes you have to play daily for months to have a decent team. I mean like really make me WANT to play the game. I already want to keep playing but everyday I spend my waveplates and get left with emptiness
i wasn't the biggest genshin player but i feel bad for my friends who really spent so much time and sometimes even money on hoyo games in general only to not get rewarded and i honestly thought that an honest conpetitor like wuwa would make genshin better or atleast give hoyo an incentive to actually do some improvements on the game but nothing really came out of it i dont spend too much time on gacha games and quite frugal with money just on gacha games but since yinlin launched ive bought the bp and monthly pass and honestly if that money is going to devs that constantly use feedback to improve their game ill happily buy bp and monthly pass to support them as long as im playing
I love how a lot of people was immediately convinced that DaWei crying on stage is genuine, and the way he used the "mental health" issues card, saying how the team is anxious and scared, rather than ACTUALLY doing and fixing the issues. Its standard Chinese marketing strat for me
The GI team had the chance to make a great change for everyone by making exploration rewards permanent in the latest dev notes, but of course, they had to turn it into fomo and they are adding YET ANOTHER filter to artifacts instead of actually making artifact loadouts. At this point they have graduated as one of the most shady dev team just shy away of maplestory devs. And there goes Dawei shedding crocodile tears by shitting in more than eight years of feedback from HI3 till today when every piece of needed qol for genshin is applied to every other game
I've been playing Genshin since 1.1 and got tired of being treated like garbage with the non-existent rewards and the lack of the dev team caring. When I dropped Genshin and went to HSR, it was like not realising you were in a toxic relationship until you got out of it and got with someone who treats you like a person. When I started playing WuWa, it made me realise even more how toxic and uncaring Genshin is. WuWa has done in several months what Genshin couldn’t in 4 years.
kuro just sets the bar higher with them caring more for player experience than anything else. to more with kuro blessing us with goodies and their devs healthy wellbeing
I hope they hire the same VA agency as Reverse 1999 and do what they're doing depending on the character and region. British English as the default and english with an accent for the other nations. For instance, in the future region of Rinascita, they better hire VAs with an "Italian" English accent like Pavia in Reverse 1999. This move would be more immersive.
My "craftable artifact" rolled to complete $#!t... When they said craftable I didn't think I'd be subjected to the same dog water RNG I've been dealing with for the past three years... I actually felt defeated because of how bad the rolls were. The best part is that I have to wait two months to attempt it again.
dont worry bro you can try it out again in half a year... lmfao I'll just sit here with my 6 stack of Morphable echoes waiting for the next DPS to release.
@@saintontas meanwhile it's only been a few months of wuwa and I have four characters built with God tier endgame stats that i can't seem to get in genshin... Like WTF!?
@@Kryo_GTS tbf, the echo system not being locked in farming domains (we have Tacet Fields but it's optional) is a huge W. I have almost every unit on the roster built enough to even clear the ToA with 3-4 teams (because I don't wanna stick to 2 main teams). I am AR53 in Genshin yet barely any character I have had a full set because the god damn domain thing always give me back the wrong golden artifact.
Today, Kuro acknowledged and begun working on echo loadouts. Jenshin will probably follow in 6.0 and overhype it, like they were listening all along. 🤡
Leave Genshin and come to Wuwa like how you leave and forgot about your ex and start a new live 💀, leave red flag and come to green flag one. Genshin is the one like I am rich but I don't care about you and Wuwa is the one I am poor but I will take care you as much as possible 💀. Real fact when me play both is Genshin: the game play me ( play in pain of gacha and no enjoy of every patchs come) Wuwa: me play the game ( wait every new patchs and enjoy every patchs )
yh even though people been asking for loadouts ever since 1.0 and just now adding it. when i said that genshin added the new endgame content bc of wuwa people kept saying "it was planned long ago" like wtf😂
Recently downloaded wuwa on a whim. My previous experience in gacha games is like 3 30-minute sessions of genshin. I've played probably a dozen hours of wuwa already and plan to keep playing more. Even in the introduction of genshin, the gameplay is stifling. Idk what the dev situation looks like for either game but wuwa at its core feels better to me, personally.
i feel like people that play alot of gacha game will just go play the games 5 mins each and still have have fun no matter how bad the devs listens. i do this bc one gacha game isnt enough 😂
Ive loved genshin for so long but wuthering waves and kuro make me feel so much more respected and appreciated. Time after time on genshin I have been incredibly disappointed and frustrated with the state of the game. It should not feel that way.
I don't know what is the issue with Genshin in particular. It is a toxic positive community with the most fence sitting content creators i have seen who won't say anything negative about the game until some controversy happens and the entire community is up in flames. I personally think this toxic positive environment will never be resolved as Hoyoverse has all the power through their creator program where they can pick and choose their favourable content creators and blacklist creator who are negative or controversial. Genuinely Genshin impact feels like a lost cause and it is better if you don't expect anything.
The only reason I'm still playing Genshin is because I'm modding it. Meanwhile I go and play WuWa and like everything feels so nice minus the frame rates because my 970 is huffin and puffin 😂
Nah all joke aside this video is amazing and he actually broke it down very well the only way to really enjoy genshin is with a credit card on the other hand Wuthering waves is not a Credit card game and they actually work with u
oh no... genshin community might attack this video because of the main points being discussed and salvage their image then attack WuWa and the WuWa community again for being a copy paste and bad mouthing their game... hayss... I am expecting worse complaints again...😅
@@ayenmontefalcon6395 well many know the truth but its not that they cant say it.. thats one of the arguments why war started between genshin and wuwa community.. there are many things they claim and so on.. if they did not lit up and spread fire things would not be worse..
I'm fine with whatever Wuthering Waves has on launch. And them keeps improving on every update with QoL and free stuffs. I am so grateful I'm playing this game. And yet haters told me they have ulterior motives. I was raised by my parents with "there's no such thing as free lunch" so I don't care for their ulterior motives, they deserve to be paid anyway. All of these free stuffs I'm getting feels like I'm being pampered lol.
that fr used to be me bc i did not gaf about updates just characters bc i was way too addicted to the game. but as soon as i moved to wuwa and didnt get addicted anymore i just hate the community and devs for genshin😂
When you make updates people have been asking for years so you could get players back but fumble it very badly. Yeah, you outright don't care. Version 5.0 was their chance, their one chance to finally do everything players have been asking for. It could've been their biggest one yet but Hoyo doesn't care about Genshin anymore. Next thing you know, they shut the game down because people can't take anymore and stop spending money on them. Edit: Yeah, the last part may have been too harsh but you get what I'm trying to say. The game devs and the company don't care anymore.
Fair but tbh them shutting down because players stopped spending is like nearly impossible if not. Their loyal fans are too invested in the game already and couldn't even establish a proper boycott. I even read some mental gymnastics before like "devs wouldn't really have to listen in Genshin because the things being complained in wuwa aren't experienced in Genshin" 😂. As long as the "better than nothing" mindset still stands, Genshin changing it's ways is nowhere near.
I'm actually so glad I started playing WuWa again. Recently got a new phone and gave it a try again. I was unable to play on my old phone, simply because it lagged a lot on there, which ruined the fun. Now it's running smoothly, got an C2R1 Xiangli Yao and am Happy (didn't spend a penny lmao only like a hundred wishes on all together)
I'd just like to let you know. It did so on my phone as well but after all the optimization patches they've done recently- If your phone can barely run (but run it nonetheless) and lags so much, it should be a lot more playable now. It was actually a lot smoother than I was expecting it to be but I'd rather play on pc for obvious reasons. Hope your new phone lets you enjoy the game a whole lot more.
i think its bc the genshin devs already got the attention of so many players when covid hit and everyone got addicted. there were no compitition for genshin so the devs became lazy overtime and ignore the players bc they knew that they will still play the game regardless the problems bc they became addicted. heck even i became addicted but moved to wuwa😂
Dude they mention they are working on "Echo info display upon absorption," " "portable synthesizer," and Echo Presets. Legit been hearing these complains fairly consistently and Kuro just straight up telling us: "Yes we heard u, and we are working on it" Such a W dev. Really make me feel like I have to not worry about the future of the game too much. and yes I did wait for genshin to implement Artifact preset for 3 years......pretty sure it still doesn't has one @@
If they manage the echo preset/loadouts, thats insane. I've played so many gachas and mmos and most can't figure it out or its a buggy mess of a system.
@@Vezentabro if they add a echo laod out presets, than that will be the final nail on genshin's devs coffin bc that is the best " GENSHIN COULD NEVER" moment😂
This is crazy when I compare two devs - "Hoyoverse" and "Kurogames." _One developer treats us like rats. While the other treats us like humans._ And still, there are people who try to defend Genshin as the best game and say that WW is dead. IT'S NOT DEAD! Whoever is saying that can suck my fat, and go to the nearby mental institution for help. I'm loosing my mind who dirt-talk Wuthering Waves and its company. _One developer gives you stuff with a huge string attached. While the other: "You said something? Sure we'll add more events on top of that to help you with resources. No problem."_ Wuthering Waves has a big W in my book because they LISTEN TO Of all the game developers, "Kurogames" is the only one who goes further and beyond. It has my utmost loyalty and support. I want to spend on this game. I want to invest. They follow the key leadership aspect and there's a good quote: _"First you have to touch once heart before the man will lend his hand."_
That's why even though i spent much of time in genshin. I'm now more invest in the KURO games due to their flexibility of players needs and understanding.
That artifact system of choosing main stat and substat is CRAZY TRASH. They could've given it at least 1 chance every patch but no, they chose to give it one potion every few patches. Lmao
3:25 That's exactly what I felt. I still play Genshin cause I'm invested to the story. 5.0 is a move in the right direction but only when compared to Genshin itself. The only significant change I love is what they did with their daily system where activities garner points and you can use the points as daily points but that's it. That's before 5.0. The artifact machine thing is an absolute joke. The Saurians were designed to be clunkly and slow to show you how you need and how fun mobility is but not give you the freedom just enough yo frustrate us olayers to entice us to spend and pull for characters. not to mention the fact that you need yo see one to absorb one instead of allowing us to transform anytime. Having Kinich literally changes the game. Like my god. Imagine if in WuWa, there's only 1 character that could grapple and double jump. Or only 1 character that could use the inferno rider. Natlan is basically, "create a non-existent problem and then sell the solution." It's an absolutely disgusting model.
i would try it regardless of what people say, i hate the devs but i would still try the game and what it offers. if i were u i would do the story and dip 😂
Even after the tears of a shitty CEO , they still longed for money more than forgiveness and lied about almost 90% of the content in 5.0 . Truly absurd greed
I literally sent a feedback message asking for them to put a symbol as to what sonata set an echo is when you get it, so that you don’t have to go back into your character page search for it and then see if it’s what you need. So thank me. Hehe jk They went up and beyond what I asks for XD I just asked for an element symbol in the corner for whatever sonata it is. They understood the assignment and gave us the stats too woooooo☺️
This acts as confirmation bias for me. I agree with all those points. Am so tired of the abuse from Genshin that not even the 5 star selector pulled me back in. Its unfortunate that more persons aren't making the switch but to each their own.
This video is the most sweetest curses to genshin ever made. Comparing a real for the players dev to a cunning money hungry corporate. The crocotears doesn't fool anybody. They wipe it with money as tissue before laughing in the mirror.
If they keep this up hoyoverse is it going to literally fall behind can you use a auto clicker or anything to make playing this game easier so does stress can be lift off your shoulders but hoyoverse is not making it easy for us they wants us to literally suffer than make a good game it's like they're basically saying keep eating our trash they only see their players as wallets rather than people to enjoy the game and the fact that other companies do this as well and not just gacha games some of these people really think we're stupid in voting with our voting wallets works every time But I rather spend the money on a game that's fun rather spend money on a game that's not fun
When i saw the artifact transmuter thing, i knew it was gonna be a scam, it sound to good to be true, and my exact words were "the elixer bottle will either be a paid thing or hard to get it" welp i was correct
Damn dude. Tell us how you really feel. I don't disagree, by the way. I was kinda hype for Natlan at first, if only because I _finally_ could see what Iansan was like. But said hype hit a brick wall as soon as I saw the teaser. I hadn't felt that crestfallen since Dehya's release. And the region itself just feels so... meh to me. To slightly misquote HexJuice, it's just more of the same and with some half-assed "improvements" to boot. Even WL9 feels like a joke (to be fair, my overworld team is a Curry setup which is also one of the most powerful archetypes in the game, but still)! So yeah, once Iansan drops, my interest in Genshin is pretty much done and I'm gonna turn into that "Friendship ended" meme. WuWa has far more things I like and it hasn't even been out for 6 months.
This is arguably even better because Kuro is setting a new standard. Unless you're Hoyoverse, Gacha players are going to judge every new release very critically. No other game can (hopefully) get away with what Genshin does to this day.
To tell you an example of how much Kuro is winning us over I'm stingy as fuck when it comes to gacha games and 100% refuse to spend a penny on a gacha game just because I think it's a gambling scheme been playing genshin since 2020 and never broke being a f2p, on the other hand, I've been playing WuWa for 4 months on the 2ed month I broke the f2p stats just cuz I don't feel like I'm not being manipulated to spend on the game and to support them cuz honestly, I think they deserve the support not just because they are generous but also because they listen not ignoring us like hoyo always do and they only started to listen just because they finally had the competition honestly I feel so stupid wasting 4 years on genshin after playing WuWa and now I can't get out after the investment I've put into that game (also the story is good XD)
@@saintontasawesome! I have heard someone else say this as well and I cant wait! The music already sounds great but it is not something I expect to hear 90 percent of the time from an action rpg game. I believe they should take a little inspiration from Tales of Arise for when it comes to music
Even the ZZZ dev video was gaslighting us about the tvs by saying "wow this is something that i as a player have always wanted" like???? People including myself have had an issue with the tvs since the first cbt and they say that kind of crap...
I disagree, knowing the Blue Archive ones. But maybe they're *too honest*, sometimes it's better to just keep your waifu preferences to yourselves, bros. (Also, don't ask them about Project KV 🤫) So, Kuro Devs for me, they're the actual chill ones.
Mihoyo keep honkai impact vision about how to dev a game after genshin impact, i know, they are 2 different games BUT honkai feels more satisfaying than genshin in terms related to the gameplay, i player honkai for so many years but genshin didnt catch my interest at ALL, i dropped genshin since Raiden appeared because i lose interest to keep playing it... now in wuwa, kuro make a awesome work to separate their gameplay mechanic from genshin AND added more fun & interesting mechanics,,, more important THEY REALLY TAKE COMMUNITY FEED to build a better game and mihoyo instead DONT GIVE A FCK till now
Ive said it before, but Kuro feels like ArenaNet of gacha devs. They build player loyalty through being pretty generous, transparent and responsive to player's feedback. Its why I buy the welkin and the BP (even though the BP's value is meh because the weapons arent that great) because I want to support this type of game dev culture.
Hoyo: *talks about the new characters, rewards the players with less primos every patch, and optimizations no one asked for* Kuro: “we heard your feedback”
You shouldn't paint Hoyoverse as a whole as a company that doesn't listen to its players, just their Genshin Impact team. Honkai Star Rail and Zenless Zone Zero both do great quality of life updates with no strings attached.
Even though they've done they're given so much…so many so-called kuro's royal players still crying about youhu's situation…if you know what I'm talking about. Those people are just putting their hoyo's hates onto our now, no matter how small the issue is.
It's crazy that Kuro had more information on their QoL updates in a 30 minute stream than Hoyoverse did in 2 hours.
Version 1.3. vs Version 5.0.
There are so many Genshin players LOOKING for a reason to come back to the game
But when the devs view every new addition as some cringe negotiation where they have to extract something out of the player in exchange?
It's been 4 years. It's exhausting. Stop treating your players like garbage.
“2 hours” I think you mean 2 years😂
@@TechyCatz That flappy bird intro to the 5.0 livestream taking 15 minutes was the biggest middle finger I could imagine to the playerbase.
agree
@@saintontas u mean fuck you? what are u a kid???
Genshin - QoL patch: Strings Attached
WuWa - You cant say our name without two Ws
Like wow! Amazing.
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Lmaooo .. truee 😂
they are extremely shady with the QoL in hoyoverse, for example, the 50 50 thing, it seem pretty clear right, they even say it in the explanation of the wish system, is 55 45... WRONG is not, the 50 50 remains the same, the only thing that changes is that now, if you lose 2 50 50 in a row, that would be, 240 wishes, the next 50 50 is not a 50 50, is a 75 25, and if you loss that, then is a 100 0, so yeah in the long run like 10000 wishes you average it to 55 45, but is not really a 55 45, is a whale thing, a copium almost for f2p to say "well i have 5% more chance" no you dont, if i had 1 word to define hoyoverse it would be stingy, and if had 2, it would be stingily deceptive
For every feature Hoyo adds, there's always a 'but...'
@@saintontas yeah and it keeps hapening over and over specially in genshin, i dont play zzz nor hsr, but the new endgame came... but we still had only two instances of endgame, instead of 2 abyss resets and 1 theater reset we had 1 reset of each, basically meaning there is no new endgame, just replaced one instance of endgame with another, we increased the resin to 200 but it refreshes at the same rate, automatic dialogues... but no skip button and you still have to choose between 2 meaningless dialogue options of your character that dont even have a voice just so you dont walk away from the game and squeeze all your time, the only QoL that came with no but atached was the expedited dailys, that is the only thing that came with no, but or string atached, but it took them 4 years
That system doesn't exist anymore I'm geshits weapon pity system.
Funny thing is: Even that is just a theory of players. Hoyoverse never disclosed how the new wish system works, thus your comment is also just a guess😂
Have you seen apple hide their new iphone’s price and customer does the math to figure out how much the new iphone is? It’s so absurd
With the 55/45 either give me the limited character or don’t I don’t need the 5% chance 😂😂😂
Da Wei: Cries on stage
Kuru Devs: Chilling on the beach with a nice bonfire.
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That's so true. 👌😂
Kuro Devs behind the scenes though, words says they work so hard
So true. I have been playing Genshin since 2020 but after I played WuWa my view on Genshin has not been the same. Love everything about Kuro.
Yeah as someone who played Genshin from the beginning and also played Wuwa. I don’t even want to spend money on Genshin when compared to Wuwa.
It's really surprising to me it took this long for some Genshin players to realize how badly Genshin is handled
After i played wuwa i never went back to genshin. Mind you i played since launch of genshin. Hoyo is so focus with the $$ rather than the game itself and its player base. That so called quality of life from genahin is more like quantitiy of money the devs would have in thier pockets.😂🤣
@@Crispymantis123i always sees hoyo as a greedy company who's that much of a money grabber- i mean i understand the word business but the dev-player relationship from them is so toxic, no way im spending a cent to support them though they're really good at handling and hyping their things up so i wont disregard their "free" game completely just because but overall hoyo is shitass company who'm i personally wanna see get humbled by other company on the same category.
I played genshin on release and quit before 1.1 update lol,i knew it was trash from early on
WuWa is the first game I spent real money not to gain an advantage but I literally want to support these awesome Devs.
In WuWa you get so much more gameplay from limited characters that, if you can spend, you should spend at least to pull for every single one.
Imagine Zhongli, a limited 5*, with his only gameplay being to swap onto his character, hold a button, and then pretend he doesn't exist for 20 seconds.
People pay money for this gameplay in Genshin Impact.
Same here, Mate.
@@saintontas it's literally one of the reasons why I ditched genshin. One of the best decisions I've ever made in my life.
Ikr
@@saintontas So far I have 1 copy of every single char and their weapon (except for Changli's, which I missed by 3 pulls). And the only thing I regret is not having enough resources to upgrade them all (as of yet) My Wind Team is severely undercooked.
THE MOST HONEST DEVS ❌
THE BEST DEVS 🗿
Do you think you're ever gonna run out of "Wuwa ruined ________" thumbnails 💀 I really hope not
The only chance that happens is when Kuro stops making updates to the game.
WuWa ruined my relationship!
@@saintontasif that happens you can make a video called "Kuro ruined Saintontas"
My heart everytime I saw saintonitas thumbnail : 💔
its his brand at this point
Such a shame how Hoyo has such a huge market share in the gacha space, i see all the numbers Genshin and HSR are pulling and wish this could've been Wuwa cuz they really deserve it.
They could have turned out like hoyo if they were in that position. Right now they are fighting so hard because they have an uphill battle, going against the biggest gacha of the last 4+ years. The competition is bringing out their competitive side to win the gacha fight. And it's perfect for us consumers 😉. Let genshin sweat a little while wuwa is coming for them, let wuwa work extra hard to make a great game better by needing to try to match/surpass genshin's size. Either way, win win for us. I can play both gachas at the same time. It's up to them to vye for my money though since I can't SPEND on both of them.
@@luckytanuki5449 why you keep playing genshlt bro? like, i just don't get how many ppl prefer that game, i tried to play for 3 months and after a while i realized how fukn slow my progress would be with all the rng in artifacts and how expensive or time consuming the premium currency is
The reason hoyo is raking in cash despite their crappy games is simply cause it's highly predatory.
Wuwa gives reason to spend on it. The only reason i even buy the monthly pass and battlepass on wuwa is cause i pity the devs and really wanna support them.
They're spend too much already on genshin making it hard to quit the game.
A whale will need to spend more money in hoyo games than in wuwa because the monetization is more predatory. Plus just having one new 5 star in version 1.3 gives a lot of "free to play"players enough time to save for 1.4 but sadly this will hurt WuWa financially.
I almost re-downloaded Genshin due to the fact that I'm bored while waiting for my waveplates to regen, but I don't think I should. I don't enjoy Genshin, I'm just on that level of boredom. But Mihoyo's games feel bad to play. Your time feels disrespected. YOU feel disrespected. You find yourself dreading opening their games instead of having a good time.
Wuthering Waves feels great to play. I definitely want to spend money on it in the future. Currently, I have no money, so that isn't an option, but I can dream.
don't man, I redownloaded it and it was the biggest disappointment ever, I can't enjoy anything about it. I can't even catch up to any of the new content because everything else takes so long. unless hoyoverse replaces their whole dev team with one that actually cares, there is no hope for the game
I quite literally tried going back to genshin for 3 days just to be constantly stuck in cutscenes of chars talking for 10 mins at a time, each time I just closed the game after the cutscenes ended. Then when trying to get around the chasm (I stopped some months after first anni, just before chasm released), I just got annoyed trying to climb stuff. Not worth the time or effort.
Only hoyo game I play atm is honkai star rail, but the day kuro makes a turn based game... :p
@@mrflakey6163 The problem usually lies with the executives and not devs. Actual devs usually have little to no creative control over the product in such large companies.
the nice thing about wuwa is you are not that pressured to open it like as often since the waveplate has the extra 480 storage
The other day I redownload HSR while playing WuWa. While installing I foresee the pain and suffering of building characters, getting trash relics, going through the story, boring events, boring gameplay with only two selectable option for a turn based game (make it three with ultimate) and the simulated universe weekly chore (even with Acheron QoL). Oh my! This isn't worth it so I had to cancel and delete it completely again on my computer lol.
Sorry if you like HSR. That game isn't just for me, personal preference. But I don't mind those who like it.
Will always support the hoyo slander. The money i spent on them is my biggest regret. Like yeah i got unreal lucky with almost all my pulls but the game is still garbage and has not improved.
Exactly, one of my biggest regrets nowadays is that I spent money on Mihoyo. If at least I had played it F2P, it wouldn't be too valuable for them. F2P exists just for too things: Sense of popularity when you go to coop and see a bunch of people on the team, and engagement for social media, such like seeing TH-cam videos of content creators or the game itself.
Engagement is inevitable, even if you're a hater, one time or another you're going to see a video of the game you hate.
And about engagement, it's important, but literally not the final objective. Popularity won't bring more investors, unless one of them do a bet on a possible product that will sell well, they're just attracted to actual MONEY, not number of players. If the game has 1 million of players, it doesn't matter when the revenue is less than a couple of thousands of dollars. So, playing the game is just a stair that can - or not - lead the company to the final objective that is selling things.
Basically: differently from what people like to say, F2P people are not the "ultimate contributors" to the game, and I would have liked to stay like that during my time playing it.
Dawei with his crocodile tear just want to earn sympathy from players🙃
The hoyobots fell for it 😂😂😂
As a pgr player since release, i am so so happy more people get to experience a game lead by this wonderful dev team. They have earned all the praise.
I loved PGR for like 6-12 months. The story was kinda hard to follow and I lost interest or got busy but I‘ll always remember it as one of the best gachas in existence. It was also extremely generous and I was able to get basically every character as F2P player.
genshin is truly hoyo's cash cow. they do qol in every other game they make but genshin. its also the one that usually make the most money too( i know hsr is pretty much making the same now, and zzz is still "new"). it blows my mind how it still makes so much tbh. they got their players wrapped around their pinky. its the iphone of gacha games it feels.
Pretty accurate. Highest Prices around, least quality of life and leads hate their customers with a passion.
Kuro: I'm an underdog because I'm doing what the industry should do as a standard.
Edit: let's be honest, it's no secret that MiHoyo was built up from the "give men/players a pretty girl that will love them and they'll pay" philosophy. Yes. They may have done some interesting games but their interest are pure money and with little to no competition (in the past) they won't do anything.
Now they have serious competition and they either underdeliver and go the Destiny route or they adapt and do what they know they have to.
For me, once wuwa released, genshin just died for me. I never came back to it after... Sure i tried, but I felt disgusted. I couldn't believe i enjoyed that game. And after 120 fps update. Genshin just doesn't exist anymore in my eyes.
Ikr
I can already hear the hoyotard's footsteps they coming here to defend their billion dollar company... good luck man!
I've already got 5-6 videos in the same subject area. I can tank it.
"oh, but you can't add QoL features...it would ruin the vision for the game" (yes, talking about the skip button)
No billion it's a trillion dollar company and people still gonna defend hoyoshit its playerbase is just cringe and meatrider
@@ricardokojin7at the end of the day, the game sells combat and story is just flavor
genshin STILL COULD NEVER
AND WILL NEVER🤡
@@nabenabe-cb7eegenshin really keeps their player edged all the time
Can't wait for echo presets!
Can't even deny the shady and scummy way of genshin dev trying to hide it's frustrations scheme towards player despite QoL in 5.0
next title better be "WUWA ruined marriage" or something like that, cause what hasn't this game ruined anymore???
of they implement a marriage mechanic, just imagine the noice the players will do.. imagine female rover marrying changli or yinlin.. 🤣🤣🤣
@@kasmichanConsidering how everyone gravitated towards the MC regardless of which sex they are,is kinda funny. I remember someone joking that Wuwa is secretly a dating sim.
Playing WuWa after 4 years of Genshin feels like a genuine healing experience.. the difference is night and day, on ALL levels.
i love kuro so much and now i understand why ppl loved so much kuro with PGR
why is this not on noti, i clicked the bell
youtube sucks
wuwa just needs to release longer content to fill the void in the last half of every patch. I really liked depth of illusive realm and if they expand on that with more levels and variations it would be great. honestly with how well they've received all their feedback I have no doubt they will do something about it.
I'd honestly love them to have some kind of World Boss walking around the overworld that resets every week that gives you a crystal solvent and 5-10 random echoes for killing it.
It'd also be cool if the boss got stronger for every player in Co-Op, and gave out more echoes if you're in a team.
It does seem like they're planning to add more permanent game modes in the future, the first year of any gacha game is always the roughest, so I'm sure they will get there in time.
@@saintontas I'd be happy with anything as long as it makes me want to keep playing the game. and not in a similar way as genshin that makes you have to play daily for months to have a decent team. I mean like really make me WANT to play the game. I already want to keep playing but everyday I spend my waveplates and get left with emptiness
Why don't you tried request. I think kuro will hear you.
0:37 HES SO HOT! Please tell me I'm not the only one absolutely smitten
AMEN 🙏🏻
I wish the best for WUWA I still love it and I hope there good doings pay off
i wasn't the biggest genshin player but i feel bad for my friends who really spent so much time and sometimes even money on hoyo games in general only to not get rewarded and i honestly thought that an honest conpetitor like wuwa would make genshin better or atleast give hoyo an incentive to actually do some improvements on the game but nothing really came out of it
i dont spend too much time on gacha games and quite frugal with money just on gacha games but since yinlin launched ive bought the bp and monthly pass and honestly if that money is going to devs that constantly use feedback to improve their game ill happily buy bp and monthly pass to support them as long as im playing
Im thinking of spending money just for shorekeeper. Her demo looks stunning plus im excited to know more about her and rover
I love how a lot of people was immediately convinced that DaWei crying on stage is genuine, and the way he used the "mental health" issues card, saying how the team is anxious and scared, rather than ACTUALLY doing and fixing the issues.
Its standard Chinese marketing strat for me
At this point fake crying comes at a default for chinese scammers, if you see chinese crying 100% someone is being scammed
@@overcast2018not “at this point” but “always has been”
The GI team had the chance to make a great change for everyone by making exploration rewards permanent in the latest dev notes, but of course, they had to turn it into fomo and they are adding YET ANOTHER filter to artifacts instead of actually making artifact loadouts. At this point they have graduated as one of the most shady dev team just shy away of maplestory devs.
And there goes Dawei shedding crocodile tears by shitting in more than eight years of feedback from HI3 till today when every piece of needed qol for genshin is applied to every other game
Ya was gonna say like HSR and ZZZ are getting the qol updates that Genshin never gets.
PEAK
Also the good thing about wuwa whenever i tried to login it's not bright like genshin 🤣
Very convenient not disrespecting my eyes
Genshin 5.1 QoLs are also trash - Skip Button on Abyss but not on their Never-Ending Dialogues
I've been playing Genshin since 1.1 and got tired of being treated like garbage with the non-existent rewards and the lack of the dev team caring. When I dropped Genshin and went to HSR, it was like not realising you were in a toxic relationship until you got out of it and got with someone who treats you like a person. When I started playing WuWa, it made me realise even more how toxic and uncaring Genshin is. WuWa has done in several months what Genshin couldn’t in 4 years.
the QOL improvement is crazy, I don't think I ever experience something like this from the Game's Dev.
kuro just sets the bar higher with them caring more for player experience than anything else. to more with kuro blessing us with goodies and their devs healthy wellbeing
But still no Australian VA's
I WANNA SEE AIMEE SMITH DO VOICE ACTING FOR WUWA
If we can have an Irish pharmacist in Wuwa, we too can have an Aussie VA soon enough. Trust in Kuro, brother.
I hope they hire the same VA agency as Reverse 1999 and do what they're doing depending on the character and region. British English as the default and english with an accent for the other nations.
For instance, in the future region of Rinascita, they better hire VAs with an "Italian" English accent like Pavia in Reverse 1999. This move would be more immersive.
My "craftable artifact" rolled to complete $#!t... When they said craftable I didn't think I'd be subjected to the same dog water RNG I've been dealing with for the past three years... I actually felt defeated because of how bad the rolls were. The best part is that I have to wait two months to attempt it again.
dont worry bro you can try it out again in half a year... lmfao
I'll just sit here with my 6 stack of Morphable echoes waiting for the next DPS to release.
@@saintontas meanwhile it's only been a few months of wuwa and I have four characters built with God tier endgame stats that i can't seem to get in genshin... Like WTF!?
@@Kryo_GTS tbf, the echo system not being locked in farming domains (we have Tacet Fields but it's optional) is a huge W. I have almost every unit on the roster built enough to even clear the ToA with 3-4 teams (because I don't wanna stick to 2 main teams). I am AR53 in Genshin yet barely any character I have had a full set because the god damn domain thing always give me back the wrong golden artifact.
Today, Kuro acknowledged and begun working on echo loadouts.
Jenshin will probably follow in 6.0 and overhype it, like they were listening all along. 🤡
Genshin Community: We need this and that!
Genshin Devs : Fuck you!
Leave Genshin and come to Wuwa like how you leave and forgot about your ex and start a new live 💀, leave red flag and come to green flag one. Genshin is the one like I am rich but I don't care about you and Wuwa is the one I am poor but I will take care you as much as possible 💀. Real fact when me play both is
Genshin: the game play me ( play in pain of gacha and no enjoy of every patchs come)
Wuwa: me play the game ( wait every new patchs and enjoy every patchs )
This video is nothing but an attack on Hoyoverse... And i love it ❤
ik bro i love it too but if genshin just adds the sht that everyone asks than there would be no reason to hate on the devs.😂
Just watch, "that game" may implement artifact loadout in a few after years and their players would say "it was planned long ago".
yh even though people been asking for loadouts ever since 1.0 and just now adding it. when i said that genshin added the new endgame content bc of wuwa people kept saying "it was planned long ago" like wtf😂
Recently downloaded wuwa on a whim.
My previous experience in gacha games is like 3 30-minute sessions of genshin.
I've played probably a dozen hours of wuwa already and plan to keep playing more.
Even in the introduction of genshin, the gameplay is stifling. Idk what the dev situation looks like for either game but wuwa at its core feels better to me, personally.
Genshin is like an abusive relationship
The players keep coming back no matter how bad it gets
That's usually what ex's are, you have invested your time, money and effort. When you return, it is the same garbage that make you want to leave.
Genshin = Toxic ex
i feel like people that play alot of gacha game will just go play the games 5 mins each and still have have fun no matter how bad the devs listens. i do this bc one gacha game isnt enough 😂
Ive loved genshin for so long but wuthering waves and kuro make me feel so much more respected and appreciated. Time after time on genshin I have been incredibly disappointed and frustrated with the state of the game. It should not feel that way.
I don't know what is the issue with Genshin in particular. It is a toxic positive community with the most fence sitting content creators i have seen who won't say anything negative about the game until some controversy happens and the entire community is up in flames. I personally think this toxic positive environment will never be resolved as Hoyoverse has all the power through their creator program where they can pick and choose their favourable content creators and blacklist creator who are negative or controversial.
Genuinely Genshin impact feels like a lost cause and it is better if you don't expect anything.
The only reason I'm still playing Genshin is because I'm modding it. Meanwhile I go and play WuWa and like everything feels so nice minus the frame rates because my 970 is huffin and puffin 😂
Nah all joke aside this video is amazing and he actually broke it down very well the only way to really enjoy genshin is with a credit card on the other hand Wuthering waves is not a Credit card game and they actually work with u
oh no... genshin community might attack this video because of the main points being discussed and salvage their image then attack WuWa and the WuWa community again for being a copy paste and bad mouthing their game...
hayss... I am expecting worse complaints again...😅
they cant really say that wuwa copied genshin when genshin copied breath of the wild so wuwa should be breath of the wild copy 😂
@@ayenmontefalcon6395 well many know the truth but its not that they cant say it.. thats one of the arguments why war started between genshin and wuwa community.. there are many things they claim and so on.. if they did not lit up and spread fire things would not be worse..
I deadass asked in the last player feedback survey to add co op holograms and some other things n what do yuh know, they got it wooo
Whenever GI dev started crying I somehow knew 5.0 is going to be an utter disaster
I'm fine with whatever Wuthering Waves has on launch. And them keeps improving on every update with QoL and free stuffs. I am so grateful I'm playing this game. And yet haters told me they have ulterior motives. I was raised by my parents with "there's no such thing as free lunch" so I don't care for their ulterior motives, they deserve to be paid anyway. All of these free stuffs I'm getting feels like I'm being pampered lol.
and i remember some genshin players like
"better than nothing" 😅
that fr used to be me bc i did not gaf about updates just characters bc i was way too addicted to the game. but as soon as i moved to wuwa and didnt get addicted anymore i just hate the community and devs for genshin😂
When you make updates people have been asking for years so you could get players back but fumble it very badly.
Yeah, you outright don't care.
Version 5.0 was their chance, their one chance to finally do everything players have been asking for. It could've been their biggest one yet but Hoyo doesn't care about Genshin anymore.
Next thing you know, they shut the game down because people can't take anymore and stop spending money on them.
Edit: Yeah, the last part may have been too harsh but you get what I'm trying to say. The game devs and the company don't care anymore.
Fair but tbh them shutting down because players stopped spending is like nearly impossible if not. Their loyal fans are too invested in the game already and couldn't even establish a proper boycott. I even read some mental gymnastics before like "devs wouldn't really have to listen in Genshin because the things being complained in wuwa aren't experienced in Genshin" 😂. As long as the "better than nothing" mindset still stands, Genshin changing it's ways is nowhere near.
Hoyo gave saintontas the ingredients to cook their game to the ground 😂
I'm actually so glad I started playing WuWa again. Recently got a new phone and gave it a try again. I was unable to play on my old phone, simply because it lagged a lot on there, which ruined the fun. Now it's running smoothly, got an C2R1 Xiangli Yao and am Happy (didn't spend a penny lmao only like a hundred wishes on all together)
I'd just like to let you know. It did so on my phone as well but after all the optimization patches they've done recently-
If your phone can barely run (but run it nonetheless) and lags so much, it should be a lot more playable now. It was actually a lot smoother than I was expecting it to be but I'd rather play on pc for obvious reasons.
Hope your new phone lets you enjoy the game a whole lot more.
it’s crazy how the genshin devs are the only ones that take years to add changes wuwa and the other hoyo dev teams add sometimes without even asking
i think its bc the genshin devs already got the attention of so many players when covid hit and everyone got addicted. there were no compitition for genshin so the devs became lazy overtime and ignore the players bc they knew that they will still play the game regardless the problems bc they became addicted. heck even i became addicted but moved to wuwa😂
Kuro has gotta be the most likable company
Dude they mention they are working on "Echo info display upon absorption," " "portable synthesizer," and Echo Presets. Legit been hearing these complains fairly consistently and Kuro just straight up telling us: "Yes we heard u, and we are working on it"
Such a W dev.
Really make me feel like I have to not worry about the future of the game too much.
and yes I did wait for genshin to implement Artifact preset for 3 years......pretty sure it still doesn't has one @@
If they manage the echo preset/loadouts, thats insane. I've played so many gachas and mmos and most can't figure it out or its a buggy mess of a system.
@@Vezentabro if they add a echo laod out presets, than that will be the final nail on genshin's devs coffin bc that is the best " GENSHIN COULD NEVER" moment😂
This is crazy when I compare two devs - "Hoyoverse" and "Kurogames."
_One developer treats us like rats. While the other treats us like humans._
And still, there are people who try to defend Genshin as the best game and say that WW is dead. IT'S NOT DEAD! Whoever is saying that can suck my fat, and go to the nearby mental institution for help. I'm loosing my mind who dirt-talk Wuthering Waves and its company.
_One developer gives you stuff with a huge string attached. While the other: "You said something? Sure we'll add more events on top of that to help you with resources. No problem."_
Wuthering Waves has a big W in my book because they LISTEN TO Of all the game developers, "Kurogames" is the only one who goes further and beyond. It has my utmost loyalty and support. I want to spend on this game. I want to invest.
They follow the key leadership aspect and there's a good quote: _"First you have to touch once heart before the man will lend his hand."_
That's why even though i spent much of time in genshin. I'm now more invest in the KURO games due to their flexibility of players needs and understanding.
That artifact system of choosing main stat and substat is CRAZY TRASH. They could've given it at least 1 chance every patch but no, they chose to give it one potion every few patches. Lmao
I personally love genshin. It's an exquisite game, but that company is nasty and evil they know exactly how to manipulate their players
3:25 That's exactly what I felt. I still play Genshin cause I'm invested to the story. 5.0 is a move in the right direction but only when compared to Genshin itself. The only significant change I love is what they did with their daily system where activities garner points and you can use the points as daily points but that's it. That's before 5.0.
The artifact machine thing is an absolute joke. The Saurians were designed to be clunkly and slow to show you how you need and how fun mobility is but not give you the freedom just enough yo frustrate us olayers to entice us to spend and pull for characters. not to mention the fact that you need yo see one to absorb one instead of allowing us to transform anytime. Having Kinich literally changes the game. Like my god. Imagine if in WuWa, there's only 1 character that could grapple and double jump. Or only 1 character that could use the inferno rider.
Natlan is basically, "create a non-existent problem and then sell the solution." It's an absolutely disgusting model.
"... Da Wei crying in the stage, LAMENTing..."
KKKK so this is what LAMENT thing all about kekw
Nobody is rdy for how good WuWa will get after an year of implementing feedback. From patch to patch it is getting so much better. Go KURO!
sometime i have a thought comeback genshin. But now, your video make me right choice, don't comeback. Tks
i would try it regardless of what people say, i hate the devs but i would still try the game and what it offers. if i were u i would do the story and dip 😂
@@ayenmontefalcon6395 i play HSR and Wu Wa, that enough for me.
Never went back to Genshin after playing WuWa. W game W Kuro devs
Even after the tears of a shitty CEO , they still longed for money more than forgiveness and lied about almost 90% of the content in 5.0 . Truly absurd greed
I literally sent a feedback message asking for them to put a symbol as to what sonata set an echo is when you get it, so that you don’t have to go back into your character page search for it and then see if it’s what you need.
So thank me. Hehe jk
They went up and beyond what I asks for XD I just asked for an element symbol in the corner for whatever sonata it is.
They understood the assignment and gave us the stats too woooooo☺️
This acts as confirmation bias for me. I agree with all those points. Am so tired of the abuse from Genshin that not even the 5 star selector pulled me back in. Its unfortunate that more persons aren't making the switch but to each their own.
doing survey in wuthering waves actually feels important and rewarding since devs do listen to them
This video is the most sweetest curses to genshin ever made. Comparing a real for the players dev to a cunning money hungry corporate. The crocotears doesn't fool anybody. They wipe it with money as tissue before laughing in the mirror.
If they keep this up hoyoverse is it going to literally fall behind can you use a auto clicker or anything to make playing this game easier so does stress can be lift off your shoulders but hoyoverse is not making it easy for us they wants us to literally suffer than make a good game it's like they're basically saying keep eating our trash they only see their players as wallets rather than people to enjoy the game and the fact that other companies do this as well and not just gacha games some of these people really think we're stupid in voting with our voting wallets works every time But I rather spend the money on a game that's fun rather spend money on a game that's not fun
Wuwu is still in early stage , imagine the future when it reach 4.0 or 5.0 update
I only played Genshin Impact for an hour. I got those good 4 stars but still didn’t feel like continuing it.
All of these differences in term of caring for there player base will hit Genshin Impact in the long run I know
When i saw the artifact transmuter thing, i knew it was gonna be a scam, it sound to good to be true, and my exact words were "the elixer bottle will either be a paid thing or hard to get it" welp i was correct
Next title/thumbnail idea: WuWa ruined my life (and I went bankrupt)
Damn dude. Tell us how you really feel.
I don't disagree, by the way. I was kinda hype for Natlan at first, if only because I _finally_ could see what Iansan was like. But said hype hit a brick wall as soon as I saw the teaser. I hadn't felt that crestfallen since Dehya's release. And the region itself just feels so... meh to me. To slightly misquote HexJuice, it's just more of the same and with some half-assed "improvements" to boot. Even WL9 feels like a joke (to be fair, my overworld team is a Curry setup which is also one of the most powerful archetypes in the game, but still)!
So yeah, once Iansan drops, my interest in Genshin is pretty much done and I'm gonna turn into that "Friendship ended" meme. WuWa has far more things I like and it hasn't even been out for 6 months.
This is arguably even better because Kuro is setting a new standard. Unless you're Hoyoverse, Gacha players are going to judge every new release very critically. No other game can (hopefully) get away with what Genshin does to this day.
I swear to God, wallahi, you speak nothing but facts
I love Kuro 😭♥️♥️
To tell you an example of how much Kuro is winning us over
I'm stingy as fuck when it comes to gacha games and 100% refuse to spend a penny on a gacha game just because I think it's a gambling scheme been playing genshin since 2020 and never broke being a f2p, on the other hand, I've been playing WuWa for 4 months on the 2ed month I broke the f2p stats just cuz I don't feel like I'm not being manipulated to spend on the game and to support them cuz honestly, I think they deserve the support not just because they are generous but also because they listen not ignoring us like hoyo always do and they only started to listen just because they finally had the competition honestly I feel so stupid wasting 4 years on genshin after playing WuWa and now I can't get out after the investment I've put into that game (also the story is good XD)
this is good video explaining everything different between both games
holy, genshin players got monkey pawed
I love all the updates. They need to improve their battle music. Also the background music is way too melancholy.
There's actual a very popular composer from other gacha titles who is currently working on WuWa. Kuro's heard the feedback here as well.
@@saintontasawesome! I have heard someone else say this as well and I cant wait! The music already sounds great but it is not something I expect to hear 90 percent of the time from an action rpg game. I believe they should take a little inspiration from Tales of Arise for when it comes to music
yeah, the "battle" music puts me to sleep
@@TechyCatzhis name is Adam Gubman! He’s very popular and well known!!
@@f.b.l.9813i feel like kuro just needs to add music like they did on pgr bc the music for pgr is a banger
Even the ZZZ dev video was gaslighting us about the tvs by saying "wow this is something that i as a player have always wanted" like???? People including myself have had an issue with the tvs since the first cbt and they say that kind of crap...
Snowpeak devs are also really good too. Every patch has been a banger with lots of improvements made.
Also to add further to the ZZZ stuff, they have been doing a lot of qol but the gaslighting is still the hoyo classic and it's just disgusting.
I've seen many people in the zzz leaks sub sa they like TV mode, I honestly dislike it by its dumb to think everyone else shares your opinion
@w4laa what part did I day everyone?
@@ParafrostV "gaslighting us" it's not gaslighting if there's people watching agreeing with them
I love Kurogames
I love these videos lolz
Second!!
Genshin SMH
I disagree, knowing the Blue Archive ones.
But maybe they're *too honest*, sometimes it's better to just keep your waifu preferences to yourselves, bros.
(Also, don't ask them about Project KV 🤫)
So, Kuro Devs for me, they're the actual chill ones.
Mihoyo keep honkai impact vision about how to dev a game after genshin impact, i know, they are 2 different games BUT honkai feels more satisfaying than genshin in terms related to the gameplay, i player honkai for so many years but genshin didnt catch my interest at ALL, i dropped genshin since Raiden appeared because i lose interest to keep playing it... now in wuwa, kuro make a awesome work to separate their gameplay mechanic from genshin AND added more fun & interesting mechanics,,, more important THEY REALLY TAKE COMMUNITY FEED to build a better game and mihoyo instead DONT GIVE A FCK till now
Ive said it before, but Kuro feels like ArenaNet of gacha devs. They build player loyalty through being pretty generous, transparent and responsive to player's feedback. Its why I buy the welkin and the BP (even though the BP's value is meh because the weapons arent that great) because I want to support this type of game dev culture.
hoyo took 4 years to provide QoL that players "specifically" requested and it took Kuro only 1~2 patches to make it happen 👁👄👁
Hoyo: *talks about the new characters, rewards the players with less primos every patch, and optimizations no one asked for*
Kuro: “we heard your feedback”
You shouldn't paint Hoyoverse as a whole as a company that doesn't listen to its players, just their Genshin Impact team. Honkai Star Rail and Zenless Zone Zero both do great quality of life updates with no strings attached.
Even though they've done they're given so much…so many so-called kuro's royal players still crying about youhu's situation…if you know what I'm talking about. Those people are just putting their hoyo's hates onto our now, no matter how small the issue is.