How grandmasters study chess openings

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  • @vanillakevs5469
    @vanillakevs5469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Tani typing in chat that he has school is so funny for some reason

    • @prakash-ry9ot
      @prakash-ry9ot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tani?

    • @r3apxer
      @r3apxer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@prakash-ry9ot a very good, a very young, chess player that can be seen in the beginning of the video

  • @joshuabuena8049
    @joshuabuena8049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This conversation is enlightening. I kinda paused on systems like London, Colle, KIA, KID, etc. I sometimes instinctively move to a certain square without even analyzing the board. Understanding the "why" is a really good advice, I stepped back a bit and I just play fundamentally sound chess, not concentrating on the opening and their lines. I actually find it a bit liberating.

    • @Biblogigonogogga
      @Biblogigonogogga ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not studying openings and playing fundamental is fine until you reach to1640+ rating

    • @ilbeyerbay5948
      @ilbeyerbay5948 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@BiblogigonogoggaYeah as soon as i reached 1641 rating it got a lot harder

  • @jimrogers7460
    @jimrogers7460 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    "we don't remember half of it and the other half we don't understand" !! - I love that - coming from this all time great player

  • @dantez3600
    @dantez3600 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I thinks it's important to study an opening along with its respective middle game ideas. For example, when I play Queen's Gambit declined, when playing horse to e2, the usual play to go in the middle is to push your e pawn. And to do it, you need several set up moves. But let's say you want to go for a minority attack on the left side, then you have to set up by putting your rook in b1 to then push your pawns and obliterate blacks pawn structure. The openings are set ups for your middle game.

  • @heyman373
    @heyman373 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He didn't really answer the questions.

    • @hellopleychess3190
      @hellopleychess3190 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he can't dumb himself down enough.. sorry

  • @AntoniWroblewski78
    @AntoniWroblewski78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This was fascinating and enlightening. Thank you for this.

  • @petergriffin8767
    @petergriffin8767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Bro who are these 1000s getting coached by Fabi 😭

    • @petergriffin8767
      @petergriffin8767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @IT guides the only one over 2000 that’s on screen is the FM

    • @loganbrion1469
      @loganbrion1469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fortunately this exchange was made available on TH-cam so we may all benefit from Fabi’s insights.

    • @heyman373
      @heyman373 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe he paid them

  • @staceysmith-gd3zv
    @staceysmith-gd3zv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a nobody whos just starting up the why seems important because the opposing team isn't going to always play what's predicted and being strictly analytical is almost trapping yourself if you understand as the opposing force that someone is playing the tactic and not the board and that whites winning because the access to the queen opens up earlier even if it's not played till midgame having that backup can be crucial and if black wanted to open up their queen after a board like this advancing the pawns in this fashion risks breaking up the structure and that a passive attack on the center followed by a flank would be better to otherwise avoid the direct attack but that being said im a nobody trying to learn what I can it can also ve noted that playing the person can also be a good thing something i know is a good thing and yet have extensive trouble bringing to the board

  • @maksedits933
    @maksedits933 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the chat conversation when Tani says he has school haha

  • @elcapitan549
    @elcapitan549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ah so we are human afterall.

  • @hellopleychess3190
    @hellopleychess3190 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    why did I waste my time on that

  • @thunder0710
    @thunder0710 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pragg just played it yesterday(6 apr 2024) in candidates and he won
    Everyone was surprised but i had already seen this video

  • @severnkariuki9129
    @severnkariuki9129 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's all fun during e4 because of space and Nf3 because of development until you sac rook for bishop to buy time for the king to run.

  • @zwebzz9685
    @zwebzz9685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    A powerful technique all the top memory competitors use is called memory palace.
    This technique is well suited for memorizing all the specific move orders but like they mentioned the strategic understanding comes separate.
    Realizing memorizing moves and understanding openings aren’t mutually exclusive is a big step. Many just love the dogma “learn your openings don’t memorize them” when in fact both skills are separately valuable.

    • @umidnazarov5725
      @umidnazarov5725 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You mean Sherlock Holmes thing?

    • @abhiramsharma7464
      @abhiramsharma7464 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its only fictional
      It doesn't exist irl

    • @qrz_7289
      @qrz_7289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@abhiramsharma7464 it does exist I use its but pros usually just are memory genius thoo

    • @TunaStrata
      @TunaStrata 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I only have appledore.

    • @eduardomota3068
      @eduardomota3068 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@umidnazarov5725 yup, actually very usefull to learn simple things, so u can match all the analysis with the position using memory palace but the moves itself u can easily remeber using it, the problem is that there is tons of moves if u consider all variations of openings so a better way is using the memory palace to memorize the themes of the opening: the main ideas and the secondary ideas in case your oponent goes of the main lines, only the ideas like (pawn break in f4 - bishops opening, grunfeld, karo cann sometimes, knight maneuver from b2 to g3 - italian, ...) see?

  • @snadowblackmill
    @snadowblackmill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nice

  • @hasb826
    @hasb826 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wise words! Thanks. 🙏🙏🙏💖💖💖

  • @jefftaylor1186
    @jefftaylor1186 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They study openings?

  • @solitude_kee8986
    @solitude_kee8986 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi i am a chess beginner can u pls give me advice on how to really master chess

  • @luiscremonini3635
    @luiscremonini3635 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A waste of time!!!!!

    • @susorzo4342
      @susorzo4342 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      maybe to you 1700 rateds but not actual chessplayers