This season is horrible and they know it, not filling the tree with cosmetics is a big factor for most players. After the nest season they were already planning to fill the tree Trees with decorations for the "nest", this season has only shown how much TGC is leaving aside the players' opinions to become even more greedy, Having more IAP items than cosmetics in the pass makes it not worth buying. They really have a lot of time to make amazing cosmetics but this time it wasn't the case 😓I myself will skip the season and maybe just buy 1 or 2 IAP items, but the pass is not worth it which is a shame. I will collect the candles from this season and wait until the next one. 😢😢😢
I don’t think tgc has much of a say in what’s free and what’s not. The moomin company seems to have a very strict IP, and most people don’t seem to even think about that side of things
@@englishmuffin357 Thinking about it that way, they could have made more items that are not original to the Moomin franchise. That way it would satisfy everyone. And it wouldn't be so unfair.
I'm Peruvian and in our currency, IAPs are expensive as hell. And that's not all, the prices are even inflated! Hello? TGC? My country is not full of rich people, you know? I can literally pay Internet, energy and water bills of one month with Journey's pack price. I'm not really addicted to cosmetics, too, but this is really unfair for many other people :(.
Arab here, you guys are lucky, regular IAP cape is 40 SR for us. The journey pack is 100 sr...... Days of sunlight Sandals for 65 SR, like it's such a small detail!!!
@@debokepothegoober dude our currency is literally worth the same. The journey pack is worth the same for us. (It's S/. 99.90, basically S/. 100) We use "Sol Peruano" if you're curious, but they are worth the same.
They better not ruin this season, the Moomins are dear to me and I don't want this season to stain this franchise's image. I've been hoping this season would be better than what we've seen before but honestly I'm not even sure if the pass is worth it.
Tbh I don't think it will go as far as to stain the franchise's image and don't feel too bad about the IAP, this is just a game after all. If the price of the IAP is too high, don't buy it. There are a lot more ways to interact and connect with your favorite Moomin character than paying for cosmetics in Sky.
I don't know, this moomin season seems so... empty? Like, bruh, little prince event was full of lore (one of the most holesome ans emotional tasks in the game) and the aurora season was sooooo good. Moomin it's too especial for me and, even with the new area looking cute, the whole thing seems so empty, where are the spirits?? It's just mannequins and itens?? It just feels so empty I don't know...
I've been playing this game for over four years now. I'm genuinely thinking of quitting for good. TGC has turned this into a pay to play game, and it's not even casual player friendly. So many bugs, so many GAME BREAKING bugs too. So many events all at once, practically forcing you to pay for candles or play every single day without fail, for hours at a time. I'm tired, I'm broke, I'm sick of the FOMO tactic (VERY shady business tactic.) I'm just..done. I'm so upset that my favourite game turned into THIS.
Samee, like now i basically kinda quitted, i play sometimes only for seeing new areas, enjoy the places and see old friends, but i'm not going to take any other cosmetics expept if I really want them.. also, even the free ones are getting soo expansive... like, there are some capes for exaple that cost more than 100 or 150 candels... i miss the old sky :/
I feel you, man. I feel you so much. And I'm just an itty bitty little Remembrance moth, and I'm already fed up and done. Not even two years before this otherwise beautiful game lost me.
It's been so bad that me missing 2 days literally set me back so far with the season of duets- (i had already bought the pass and an extra 15 for 5, and yet STILL missing those 2 days managed to throw me off completely- could not finish the last two spirits i needed to get the last ultimate reward-) The fomo is getting worse, might use moomin as break time-
I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONEEEE! tbh the only reason i played sky for 3~4 years now is for the friends i made but now most of them left and im realising how scummy tgc really is
Good on you for speaking up about this! The cosmetics being separated is a really strange move for TGC. I get they need to make money and all from a business prospective (especially since collabs are expensive), but from a relational perspective, this leaves a sour taste for us Skykids 😢 reputation is just as important to take care of aside from money.
If they provide a decent outfit(like other seasons, at least pants+ mask/capes in every friendship tree i don’t think people would be as mad if they had like 5 iap😭
i really hope tgc will hear us just this once. this is just so horrible esp there are lots of kids playing this game too. i was excited for the moomin season before but now i can't get hyped anymore because i'm so disappointed with the items in IAP that should've been in season pass. i wish i could still enjoy the season.
@@lexderp2766Collabs are fine but don't make them part of a season. Being charged twice is very very wrong. Charging you for the season pass then charging you again for IAP
@@Keyrose-my3xr However the Moomin company WANTED to collab as a season as such the Little Prince and Nine Colored Deer. Not sure which companies own the rights to them, but I know Moomins! The company of Moomin Characters Oy Ltd. owns the rights of the Moomin Series Characters created by Tove Jansson. As in collaboration, TGC must pay the corporation of Moomin Characters Oy Ltd. certain % amount of money to add permanent additions to the game in lull of the Moomin Characters. However, the items that were added via season pass had to have been discussed to be used in a way that can be used in TGC promotional art, events, and be returned without discretion to the original company, Moomin Characters Oy Ltd. They have done this many times. They will continue to do it many time. I think $27 USD (so far) in IAP, + $10 USD for season pass is still extremely fair, as this is in line of Little Prince collab, and Nine Colored Deer collab. If you were to be fully selective, this is technically the most expensive *Season Collab* ($2 USD more than nine colored deer) however not as expensive as other *Event Collab* TGC is probably the least greedy company on mobile so far. If you want to show your support, please buy IAP directly from WebShop of ThatSkyGame, so that way they don’t have to give a % to iOS, Android, Google Play, Sony, or Valve. Only a % from the online game charging service XSOLLA
If this game keeps going in this direction, i think i will just quit Sky. I have 2250 candles and no use for them anymore cause everything is IAP or tickets. Im not interested in music instruments, nest decorating or socializing since i am a solo player. This game is becoming a waste of my time. The only reason i keep loging on is because i just love flying. Id hope the game would revolve more around flying, since its called SKY. Its name is SKY, not "FRIENDS" or "FASHION" or "MUSIC" or "IKEA". But there is nothing we can do about how TGC manages things and im gettin tired of feeling dissapointed and burn out.
i get it honestly, im a mostly solo player and like. i love this game, i love the mechanics with flying, but they're slowly removing or (from my point of view) ruining the things i liked. we aren't really getting lore, its all collaborations and aviary. aviary is nice but what does it offer to sky's story aside from being a callback to the really old players and a nice place to visit? they removed bicycle, which was imo a really fun bug, they changed hide & seek emote in the game so now emotes can't be used at all when a session is active, and there's a game-breaking or at least very detrimental bug nearly every update now with little to no compensation. even if i quit i'll probably still visit the have tbh, but it's been getting harder and harder to play and it's technically easier for me bc im an older player that has a ton of candles stockpiled with not as much to spend on.
Omg flying part is too real. I used to be huge social sky butterfly (my entire tree was full of active friends I spoke to), and now that they’re all gone, I just hop in to twirl in the air, do tricks, and maybe do a quest or two 😂😂
I’m so sad to see they are using the Moomins this way… when they first announced this season, I was so exited, but now that I see how things are going, im sad to know that me and other Moominvalley fans are not going to be able to have their favorite characters cosmetics. I love the Moomins and I will try to get the pass… but I dont know if I will be able since I live in Venezuela… our country situation is not the best…
Ive been playing for 4 years and dont mind spending money when i really want something, but these iaps are out of control. Im skipping this season completely. I hope a couple months away from the game will make me less bitter about it lol.
Same here. I've only been playing for 2 years, but it feels like an entirely different game lately. Predatory almost. The ceaseless events and collabs with so many overpriced IAPs.... it's wearing me out. 😥
Well it's only sensible. They have to make money to keep the game going and feed their families. It's a great game and I don't mind. If it's too much for you , wait until something comes along. It isn't them prices are high everywhere.
@chad8061 I never said it wasn't a good game (hence, I've been playing since Enchantment) but I can assure you, they make plenty of money. For a new player to get every iap for days of mischief, it is $198 USD, and they add multiple new ones every year. This is the same for all events. 1 or 2 free items, and then 3 to 4 iaps. That would be fine if they were cheaper, instead of $15-$25 an item. Like I said, I'm hoping that leaving the game for a few months will make me not as angry. I'm sure when I come back, I can learn to love the game again
@@Piperatthegatesame. I think aurora season started the "decline" of the game. Before everything was more beautiful now the seasons don't even have emotions and the prices have gone up not to mention that even making friends in the game is more difficult!
Disclaimer that will explain a lot Before I state the disclaimer, I will say that this does not justify the actions of TGC in any way. Nor does it qualify as defending them. I am only here to provide nuance and explanation to this situation. -All collab seasons have special IAPS to pay off royalties to the IP, moomin is no exception There is a strict level of what can and what cannot be free with collabs, as if it resembles the IP too much, then it can't be offered for free. With bigger brands, these items are often the ones with often with the most resemblance to that IP. -E.g. TLP, Meteor jacket, resembles a special outfit the prince wears, special Little prince outfit that resembles another outfit the prince wears -Aurora IAPs resemble outfits that were worn in real-life music videos instead of spirits made for the story. Snuffkin having popularity -Snuffkin is one of the more popular characters in moomin. His hat and his robe are the most iconic parts of him. it would not be snuffkin without those two things, however Cape is not a snuffkin qualifier. -Having the hat and robe be in the IAPs follows the same pattern of items most resembling the IP being in the IAP section. This doesn't justify the actions of TGC but it does explain the why some of snuffkin's cosmetics specifically are IAP, and explains how this treatment isn't new, but only more recently noticed. I also see your side in all of this. Players were able to complete a character's look via the pass alone and not need extra IAPs, this changed with the season of moomin and that makes people upset. However a big issue has been pricing as while they have stayed the same throughout history, we end up seeing more of them at once. In addition regional pricing, where you respect the power other countries' currencies have, is not present, even though the currency differences are. This can make things worse for everyone. As for Viz's statement: One one hand I get where they come from, on the other, they're missing a lot of nuances. Yes, sky is a long term game, and there are lots of items to get. And you don't need to have outfits to enjoy the game. However fashion throughout human history has had many social uses beyond protecting from something. These social reasons include (but aren't limited to) following, rejecting, or even rebelling against social trends and norms, hiding or expressing aspects of identity and the self, sharing heritage, and showing or hiding your status. Clothing in Sky and other video games is no different when it comes to social reasons. You are at a point where one bad season isnt the end all be all for outfits. You're at a point where you arent limited in expression or are fine eith what you have. So to tell players, who are limited by outfit expression, to the point where they can't express themselves, "hey if you wanna express your identity in a social video game via clothing you're addicted. Step outside touch grass and get a life." Kinda misses a lot. Video game companies will use this desire to express to get us to pay money, it is up to the players, up to us, to decide not what the devs think it's worth, but if what they have decided is worth it for you
Bro I think clothing in video games is very different actually... the only thing I think could carry over on a lowkey level is showing status, by wearing IAPs.
@@candicraveingcloude2822 It definitely is, at least for sky. To own cosmetics is to have proof of being a “veteran”, which is a title all new moths want.
@@kaleycooper9111 Status of being a veteran and showing higher levels of experience and/or money is certainly a factor that carries over. Not having base game stuff is an indicator that you have played for longer than a few weeks, especially if you are further away from a particular days of event. However perhaps my comment wasn't clear enough so I'll try again. I am interested in how you feel status would be as alienjesus796 claimed, *"the only thing,"* that carried over, instead of just one of several or many things that carried over.
@@kaleycooper9111 I do not deny that status has carried over, however what I was asking @alienjesus796 wasn't just in how status carried over, I was interested in how it is in his words, *"the only thing* [he thinks] could carry over," *instead of just one of several things.*
@@fellonahardrock fr dude! I've been saying that same thing. They don't make any income from the traveling spirits anyways. I feel like they should be half the price of what they already are, it would be a lot more fun and not to mention easier on new players.
I love Sky, I've been a player for five years, and I love Moomin. Originally I was planning to definitely buy the pass this season because of how much I love both, I don't often get the season passes usually unless it has multiple cosmetics I really want, and I don't think I've ever gotten an IAP, but even even I don't I've never felt left out of a season or felt like my enjoyment of the season suffered for not having a pass. Snufkin in particular is a character that means a lot to me, and I always expected that his hat would be a pass item because of how iconic and popular it is, or otherwise the entire Snufkin outfit would be an IAP bundle in which case I'd decide how much I wanted it after seeing the final price and how it looked in game, but I was fine with that because similar things have happened before and even if it's a bummer for those like me who don't often have the spare money to spend on digital cosmetics the game is still fun and I still believed TGC had the players in mind. But that belief has slowly been eroded especially over the past few seasons as candle prices rose without the candle limit or wax value rising with it, and especially with this season and the 200 candle cello. A 200 candle price would be unthinkable for ANY item a few years ago. But even then I NEVER would have thought they do something as obviously scummy as split popular character outfits into TWO DIFFERENT PAYMENT MODELS??? There's not any other explanation for it than greed. If this happened early in the games launch I may have given them the benefit of the doubt and wait for next season to form an opinion as maybe they just aren't used to pricing and organizing IAP, but no they've had FIVE YEARS of doing this and have a well-established model of keeping all parts of an outfit together in the same place so players only have to pay once. Now they are using players nostalgia for popular beloved characters against them to try and get as much money as possible. The more a game company's focus is on profit, the less it's focused on making a good game, and I honestly worry for the future of Sky. Unless something changes with the structure of the trees, I don't think I'll be buying the pass or any IAP this season. I can only hope that this was a result of only one or two people or miscommunication and not something the team as a whole agreed on, but I don't have a lot of trust left in TGC at this point. If things don't turn around soon, I really think this could be the beginning of the end of Sky as I first knew and fell in love with it.
I started playing Sky, on my free time, 4 weeks ago. Idk if I'll keep playing this game. TH-cam just recommended this video for me, I'll subscribe to your channel and watch some of your videos. I'll leave my opinion about what you said in 4:35, if you're interested. You seem to have plenty of items on the game, so one bad Season may not affect *you*. What about the other players who have nothing? Did you tried to take a look at the current state of the game by their perspective? Wasn't you just "addicted to costumes" as them when you started palying and had nothing? How will beginners "get a life and socialize" if people just bows and then runs from the "Moths"? ("Moths"? Does veteran players see beginners as worthless insects in this game?) I saw some problems in this game: Those 9 variations of the default pajamas gets boring really fast, IAPs gets very expensive in some country's currencies, this game lacks male costumes, they overprice regular candle stuff to prey on FOMO and waiting for a specific Travelling Spirit to return may take months or even a year... (People want stuff ASAP nowadays. Is Sky a waiting simulator?). People have good reasons to be mad. One of the main things in Sky is to collect stuff, right? If it was just to watch stories, its better to watch a show on Netflix or Crunchyroll. Yes, everybody needs to make money but nobody supports/invests on bad stuff. Nobody wants to buy a bad overpriced product. If we can't keep the old clients and neither attrract new ones, our business will fail. How does someone sell if there's nobody left to buy? If we like something, we want it to get better, right? So please, don't defend their mistakes and neither take sides with the greedy corporates that don't even play the game, they just care about money. Take sides with the players, is the community who really cares about the game and keep this alive. If a game fails to please its playerbase, it will progressively lose more players and will eventually die.
I agree with literally everything you said. The only thing I don’t agree with is the moth thing. It’s a term of endearment. Like how Chinese players call new players sparrows. They are called moths bc they are small, have brown capes and go into the adventure have it be dangerous or not like a moth to a flame. (Hence why in Aviary shop there is the moth and sparrow pack) But going back to what you said everything you said is 100% correct. The only people who say this doesn’t matter and who say it’s just a game is the people with cosmetics. Their greed has been clear for a long time now. The F2P players being pushed aside more and more. They do not care for their players and their thoughts. All they care about is getting their bag which in turn is killing their game
And not to mention the whole Sky creator fiasco a lot of the creators apparently are in a NDA or something so they can’t even talk badly about it without getting nuked So I wouldn’t be surprised if this one is in on it either and is just saying all of that to save face
The moth thing is just a cute nickname because ur avatar started as having brown wings(yk like a moth), we were all moths at one point lol there’s no need to take it so personal
The TGC people have made us subservient to cosmetics. I feel bad for those people who are today's Moomin viewers who will come to play this game only for Moomin, they too will fall into their trap, and you know what that trap is? Collecting candles daily, whether for seasonal items, traveling spirits, or old events for cosmetics. Despite that, every month a new event happens out of nowhere and buy most of the good cosmetics from IAP, and after that, they will go to big events or in live interviews and say that we have made a game that brings people from different countries together, our world is lovely, and we have made a world record.
That's honestly how every ad-free, free-to-play mobile game ends up. They've got no method to keep the money flowing other than in-app-purchases and never ending updates to make the player base active.
My man is a real gem! I really appreciate this. I need TGC to hear this and think about what they are doing wrong, which they have never done in any collaboration season.
Well that's kind of depressing. As a young player, I do not have money, I usually have a bit set aside for sky, but this is too much. TGC, there are kids playing this game. Not everyone can afford these overpriced IAPs.
this makes me so sad, I noticed that this years days of sunlight were more expensive as well, I had put some money aside to buy the surfing board that I couldn't get last year and couldn't buy it 'cause they made it more expensive this time. I don't have the extra money to spare 'cause university is very expensive already and bills don't pay themselves. I wish tgc reconsiders some things.
I think it’s so expensive because of the IP address for moomin. No one is thinking about that side of things, but it’s most likely the reason everything is so expensive
i understand that TGC likely has a tighter leash for these collaborative seasons, since they're borrowing an IP, and the actual owners of that IP "need" to make money too. but i just don't understand why they can't do this season the same as they've done the other collab seasons, with the same amount of accessibility for players who only want to pay for the season pass. this on top of everything else that has happened over the last few months has really made sky feel like a different game. it's a lot more unwelcoming, a lot more bald-faced money-grubbing.
People also need to understand that the IP address could be the reason everything is so expensive. This happened with cinnamoroll, we only had two free items and the rest were paid, because they had a very strict IP. I think this is also the case with moomin, and maybe tgc can’t have much of a say in what’s free and what’s not
Well, I am glad I personally never heard about Moomin before this collaboration news. I am not a fan at all otherwise, I would have felt shitty too. But, it's saddening to see such a huge shift in ways one can get cosmetics in sky. Earlier, season pass was meant to be a guarenteed way to gain all cosmetics but it was still optional as good, free cosmetics were available too. Now, season pass is not enough, you gotta get IAPs for all items? So much talk for a company that says they want to make a wholesome game and avoid microtransactions like in other games. I sympathize with those who wanted to get these cosmetics because they like Moomin but can't because everything is now IAPs.
I dont find anything wrong with it, look how people are getting angry and concerned about this strategy... think what your frnds or parents would suggest if you got concerned about these cosmetics.
Welp that's it, skykids! I'm quitting Sky. Too much efforts and no reward. Once in a year I will gather with my friends for fun, maybe. But now i think that doing it in Minecraft will be more interesting and enjoyable.... Thank you, Sky, for 2,5 wonderful years :/
Instead of making IAPs cheap like 0.5-2$ so a lot of players will consider buying them, they make them expensive as hell so way less people even think about buying stuff. 10-20$ for some cospetics? Excuse me, i can buy a whole GAME that i will play for 100+ hours with this price or few kilos of meat i'll eat for a week, not a few pixels I'll change away two weeks later. That's really dissapointing. Idk who's sitting in their selling department, but seeing how they insert more and more "buy please" that feels like their income decreases, makes me feel they are getting paid for nothing.
Its really not fair cuz i am not allowed to buy any of the passes cuz my parents say its ''junk'' the only time i got the season pass was in the season of duet and one of my close friends gave it to me, but i feel guilty to ask again😔
Your parents probably think there are more important things in their's and your life than the season pass and that's okay. In addition you would be required to play every single day and buy every single item on the tree. In addition your parents probably think think you'd ask for more IAPs or worse, get them off your parent's credit card yourself falling into a trap of never ending money loss and resulting in both you and your family's debt. They want you to have a life outside the game and prepare for actual future stuff. So they think that "seasonal pass junk" will prevent you from having that future. To you these items are beautiful things that you see as worth getting. Calling it "Junk" is a bit rude, but this is probably their point of view. Now one thing that might help you is if you're not going for the Ults you don't have to get it, as everything else from the pass will return.
Speaking as someone who has bought a few season passes, your parents are right, it is junk! You can buy whole games on sale for much less than a cosmetics bundle in sky. Also doing daily quests every day gets old fast.
Finally someone who said it. I've been watching your videos of cosmetics and I've just been seeing how sky is slowly going down. A lot of my old friends left because of this. And I hope TGC does something about it. I never bought an IAP and now I definitely won't when they make it so overpriced 😭
i stopped playing for a while since passage season (i was shattering moth) and i honestly was kinda bummed that i missed 9 deer guide cape. back then i was quite obsessed with cosmetics and actually realized how toxic my relationship with the game became, and how by paying for the seasonal pass i got pressure for having to login everyday and grind. i stopped for good and came back on duets when i finally have leisure time. now i just play so i can get vault elder ultimate hair, and that's like my goal for my own fulfillment, and since there are no deadlines too i can be more relaxed about it. tgc need to recheck back their own values, listen to the players and specially these beta feedbacks, i fear it'll just only go downhill from here if they continue with this path.
Ngl this new season going makes me going to cry even i like the new season but WHY!? imagine ur favorite character was Slit up whole of it this it makes me feel going make me going cry ngl this is so disappointed i was literally hopping to buy this season even i skipped it out the season of duets i just hope tgc listen to us
Not to defend TGC especially in light of recent events but… Collaboration seasons are just that collaborations therefore most of the decisions aren’t made by TGC but the holders of the IP TGC is collabing with, making this season a ‘pay to win’ was also a decision of the IP holders of Moomin which is quite sad regarding that previous collaborators were so much more generous I know TGC is also at fault for ruining this season’s financial and cosmetics aspect tho
Normally I don't care about IAPs, if people want to spend the money on something special then good for them. But I've been a fan of the moomins all my life, especially Snufkin. And his outfit has always been an inspiration to outfits of mine in sky. So I'm very happy about this season, at the same time so disappointed that I would have to spend like 30 € if I would want to get all the Snufkin cosmetics. What? That's WAY over the top.
Idk, Moomin content I have seen online is expensive in general. Maybe I'm not looking in the right places, but even in AliExpress it's not wallet friendly. Because I havent seen any cheap Moomin items, I had already assumed this would be the case for the upcoming season as well. I have been playing Sky for a year, and I play to disconnect the mind while doing candle runs. I do enjoy the slow burn. I am proud of all the cosmetics I have acquired with regular candles in the span of a year.
I get pretty obsessive over things unhealthy amount so I got a bit hurt by moomin prices because i wanted to stay f2p (i hate spending money on pixels) and i will probably make myself buy 1 iap out of this since im a moomin fan. (sorry i cant get a life) Am i happy with what we got? Not really. But is it better? Slightly. But moomin fans can see through this bs
Boycotting is the equivalent of the silent treatment in this case scenario. It doesn't actually tell them what we're upset about. It just says "I'm upset and won't tell you what it is." We need an uprising and to tell them as best as we can what makes us upset in a polite way. (As in no rudeness or death threats)
I don't know anything about the costs in the past since I started maybe 2 years ago and went on a hiatus in the middle of it. But I am also a F2P player for Sky and Gacha games. I will only spend money on sets or seasons if I think its worth it and have the extra money. I don't necessarily see too much wrong with this because I already have this mindset but I am also not knowledgeable about it. I think it can be an issue because there is too many characters and items are spread out, I can see why it's frustrating for many because you might not be able to get all of them, and it does suck. I never get all the free items in a season, only he ones I REALLY grind for.
as someone who dont know much about moomin, i got nthg to say about the overall season bcz for me its just boring. as a player for 4 yrs+ since enchantment season, the best season for me was definitely sanctuary. to this day, people still go there n imo its one of the best place ever in sky. other new areas that comes with the newer seasons just completely fell off n i dont even see people regularly going there at all after the season ended longggg ago. im glad i completely stop purchasing the season passes the moment after season of aurora, i nvr regret this decision at all. sky after that was completely a different sky i once used to enjoy.
I'm disappointed. I understand TGC In their quest to fill the spirit branches with items for the Nest, but... Isn't the season about the Moomins? I mean... That most of the cult items (sorry if I say something wrong. It was too much of a disappointment for me that the Snufkin costume is paid) for a donation, and such things as donations in Sky are not very popular. I'm glad that at least the hairstyle, cape and tent are not for a donation (meaning a regular donation, not a pass).
I'm not addicted to cosmethics, and actually never made an in game purchase, except for a season pass on Sky years ago... But Moominvalley is my current hyperfixiation, and I'm sad that even if I buy a pass this time, I won't be able to get a full costume :(...
Hello, I just want to say to you I like your videos for your humour and little stories you bring with your videos. Abd I agree with you about messages you tell in this video.
As someone whos been playing sky since January of this year i dont think im going to join this season. I was thinking about joining the season, but i feel like it would be a waste of time seeing i was mainly after the invisible girl cosmetics and the umbrella. But most of her cosmetics, like the cape and shoes, are iap, and the outfit + umbrella is the ultimate reward. The only free thing from her is her bell. Which is pretty sad. Tbh im just gonna skip the season and just grind for both regular and seasonal candles since seasonal candles can turn into regular candles at the end of the season. i was really excited to join, but now i'm just not anymore :'
Here is a hint: There has been an update to the ultimate rewards The pendant is still there (kinda has to be cause proof of purchase) The umbrella is there The moomin plush has now been added to the ultimate rewards section Finally Ninny's red dress as been added as an ultimate reward with the invisible moth/default outfit being a limited IGC item at the top of the quest tree. For those who are curious about whether to buy a season pass, only get it if you really want the ultimate gifts. Everything else from the pass will return in due time.
I am a huuuuge moomin fan and i was so happy when i found out they were collabing with sky however i can not purchase things from the game since i am a minor,and all of the iconic/signature character items are payed and im so sad about that
I’ve been buying every season pass now for the last few years, but I’m thinking of quitting soon. I don’t like getting to choose between IAPs or the passes (especially since some of these items will likely never come back) and this season is just pushing it. Love Sky, love Moomin, but even I can’t keep doing this for much longer. Not good for me physically, mentally, or financially.
The crazy part about season is total cost of seasonal candles got even higher which someone estimated its gonna be 403seasonal candles?? I hope not true cause that's insane
I usually don't mind seasons that are borind or that are not for everyone. Even though this next season won't be for some people, I'll just participate anyway because I love new things! Funny thing is, whenever I get a cosmetic I really wanted, I end up getting a little bored with some things and wait for new things I don't know or have yet 😅
I kind of wish we have spirits along with the characters npc instead of mannequins. I love moomin, and I appreciate the devs respecting Tove's (Moomin's creator) decision in keeping the story as it is and focusing on symbolism. But I wish we could interact with the characters outside of the main story like in the little prince 😢
It is a bit scummy with the iap stuff and less cosmetics/ spirit items- cuz of the nest stuff Here's is what I think they should do Add the nest stuff in the nest shop area as a separate area to spend sc on That way there is more space on the spirit tree for the items cosmetics This is just my silly idea tho idk if it will actually work or is good
E tenho o veredito: Não pagarei por este passe de temporada. Preços exorbitantes, literalmente todos os itens são pagos, entendemos que é temporada colaborativa mas nada legal para quem joga gratuitamente? Os presentes supremos são horríveis, esta roupa invisível é muito simplória, o guarda chuva é feio; além disso há itens separados nq loja, não se pode completar um look sem ter que pagar preços extras, cara, os ítens separados no Brasil são o preço de um passe de aventura. Sou uma grande fã de moomin a versão anos 90 fez parte da minha infância e estava animada por isso, eu com certeza compraria esse passe mas, simplesmente não dá para aturar isso. Jogo este jogo há três anos e não consigo acreditar onde chegamos, antes tínhamos itens legais tanto para quem pagava e para os que jogavam de graça e puts- caramba cara, esse jogo virou sobre roupas e quem tem mais dinheiro
I usually buy the season 3 pack for myself and 2 alts. I think im not gonna buy the pass this season. Im only gonna buy the moomintroll pack since i like the tail but thats all. Time to take a break from sky and wait for next season.
That's kind of unfortunate what they're keeping as IAP. Those seem like items that need to complete a spirit tree, not something to be charging at least ten dollars for. IAP used to be the fun little extra cherry on top, not something that's going to price gouge moomin fans. I mean really, tgc is gonna gate keep key parts of outfits. It's just completely the wrong move. at least with the little prince it was only the prince's scarf, rose, fox plushie, and cosmo cape. Like, you didn't actually NEED them. it was just fun and extra. aurora wasn't crazy either. This is really sad honestly
Moomin been my fav. Excited even. But when i heard the prices. Damn. Feeling disappointed how they do that. They become too greedy man. I feel like going to skip this now since the costemic i'm trying to take is overprices😢
I'm glad I've managed to get enough cosmetics to get outfits I like so I don't really care about cosmetics much anymore, but the constant use of FOMO by ThatGreedCompany is still making it stressful to even want to sign onto the game. I played long enough for Duets to get the new instruments and Piant's Flourishing pants, hopped back on for the Shattering event to get the dark plant cape, and from there I doubt I'll play again anytime soon. And I'm only a Remembrance moth. And the fact that first seasons stopped giving new emotes, and bow even cosmetics are becoming a rarity, is insane. The poor moths. I'm glad I joined when I did so I could get a little taste of what Sky used to be before it just went completely downhill into TGC's destructive conquest of greed.
Sorry not sorry, This game's DEVELOPERS (All Of Them) is starting to get on my nerves, Treating us all like cash cows by giving us ugly sh*t, No Wonder Most Of My Veteran Friends Quit, Toxic Developers
Lol events with ridiculous iaps wasnt enough now they bring iaps into the season too by clipping from season pass. I wont pay for any of them but I'm sad for the people who wants to pay. With this arrangement even if they pay they can't get a decent outfit. It's just scam.
Other seasons : Free vs pass Moomin season : Pass vs iap All seasons of Sky were full of creativity and beauty, but this season shows that a game cannot remain enjoyable forever.😄🌹 We dont like this season Sorry
This season is horrible and they know it, not filling the tree with cosmetics is a big factor for most players. After the nest season they were already planning to fill the tree Trees with decorations for the "nest", this season has only shown how much TGC is leaving aside the players' opinions to become even more greedy, Having more IAP items than cosmetics in the pass makes it not worth buying. They really have a lot of time to make amazing cosmetics but this time it wasn't the case 😓I myself will skip the season and maybe just buy 1 or 2 IAP items, but the pass is not worth it which is a shame. I will collect the candles from this season and wait until the next one. 😢😢😢
After seeing that you get Ninny's bell, moomin pants, and snufkins cape, alongside 2 music sheets and a harmonica, I wouldn't be too upset.
Real some of the best season items are free, quite complaining guys@@subcribeanddontbreakdachai5797
I don’t think tgc has much of a say in what’s free and what’s not. The moomin company seems to have a very strict IP, and most people don’t seem to even think about that side of things
@@englishmuffin357 Thinking about it that way, they could have made more items that are not original to the Moomin franchise. That way it would satisfy everyone. And it wouldn't be so unfair.
Aunque no hablamos el mismo idioma, expresaste lo que muchísimos sentimos con esta temporada
I'm Peruvian and in our currency, IAPs are expensive as hell. And that's not all, the prices are even inflated! Hello? TGC? My country is not full of rich people, you know? I can literally pay Internet, energy and water bills of one month with Journey's pack price.
I'm not really addicted to cosmetics, too, but this is really unfair for many other people :(.
I'm from south america too, devs like these don't care about us.
La verdad! Es horrible lo caro que se a vuelto sky.
Arab here, you guys are lucky, regular IAP cape is 40 SR for us. The journey pack is 100 sr......
Days of sunlight Sandals for 65 SR, like it's such a small detail!!!
@@debokepothegoober dude our currency is literally worth the same. The journey pack is worth the same for us. (It's S/. 99.90, basically S/. 100)
We use "Sol Peruano" if you're curious, but they are worth the same.
real, im also from south america... they don't think about us at all
They better not ruin this season, the Moomins are dear to me and I don't want this season to stain this franchise's image. I've been hoping this season would be better than what we've seen before but honestly I'm not even sure if the pass is worth it.
Tbh I don't think it will go as far as to stain the franchise's image and don't feel too bad about the IAP, this is just a game after all. If the price of the IAP is too high, don't buy it. There are a lot more ways to interact and connect with your favorite Moomin character than paying for cosmetics in Sky.
I don't know, this moomin season seems so... empty? Like, bruh, little prince event was full of lore (one of the most holesome ans emotional tasks in the game) and the aurora season was sooooo good. Moomin it's too especial for me and, even with the new area looking cute, the whole thing seems so empty, where are the spirits?? It's just mannequins and itens?? It just feels so empty I don't know...
@@miumiau5553Yeah. It's also grey all around.
I've been playing this game for over four years now. I'm genuinely thinking of quitting for good.
TGC has turned this into a pay to play game, and it's not even casual player friendly. So many bugs, so many GAME BREAKING bugs too. So many events all at once, practically forcing you to pay for candles or play every single day without fail, for hours at a time.
I'm tired, I'm broke, I'm sick of the FOMO tactic (VERY shady business tactic.)
I'm just..done. I'm so upset that my favourite game turned into THIS.
Samee, like now i basically kinda quitted, i play sometimes only for seeing new areas, enjoy the places and see old friends, but i'm not going to take any other cosmetics expept if I really want them.. also, even the free ones are getting soo expansive... like, there are some capes for exaple that cost more than 100 or 150 candels... i miss the old sky :/
LITERALLY@@i.belive.in.venti.supremacy
I feel you, man. I feel you so much. And I'm just an itty bitty little Remembrance moth, and I'm already fed up and done. Not even two years before this otherwise beautiful game lost me.
It's been so bad that me missing 2 days literally set me back so far with the season of duets- (i had already bought the pass and an extra 15 for 5, and yet STILL missing those 2 days managed to throw me off completely- could not finish the last two spirits i needed to get the last ultimate reward-) The fomo is getting worse, might use moomin as break time-
I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONEEEE! tbh the only reason i played sky for 3~4 years now is for the friends i made but now most of them left and im realising how scummy tgc really is
Good on you for speaking up about this! The cosmetics being separated is a really strange move for TGC. I get they need to make money and all from a business prospective (especially since collabs are expensive), but from a relational perspective, this leaves a sour taste for us Skykids 😢 reputation is just as important to take care of aside from money.
If they provide a decent outfit(like other seasons, at least pants+ mask/capes in every friendship tree i don’t think people would be as mad if they had like 5 iap😭
i really hope tgc will hear us just this once. this is just so horrible esp there are lots of kids playing this game too. i was excited for the moomin season before but now i can't get hyped anymore because i'm so disappointed with the items in IAP that should've been in season pass. i wish i could still enjoy the season.
This is a collaboration with another company. They need to have money to pay for the copyright use from Moomin Official
@@lexderp2766 Yeah, but they NEVER did the same thing with TLP or 9 colored deer, so, what's going on?
@@lexderp2766Collabs are fine but don't make them part of a season.
Being charged twice is very very wrong.
Charging you for the season pass then charging you again for IAP
@@thatscaredycatlmao they absolutely did with the little prince and the 9 deer? The exclusive capes and antlers and the fox plushy?
@@Keyrose-my3xr However the Moomin company WANTED to collab as a season as such the Little Prince and Nine Colored Deer.
Not sure which companies own the rights to them, but I know Moomins!
The company of Moomin Characters Oy Ltd. owns the rights of the Moomin Series Characters created by Tove Jansson. As in collaboration, TGC must pay the corporation of Moomin Characters Oy Ltd. certain % amount of money to add permanent additions to the game in lull of the Moomin Characters.
However, the items that were added via season pass had to have been discussed to be used in a way that can be used in TGC promotional art, events, and be returned without discretion to the original company, Moomin Characters Oy Ltd.
They have done this many times. They will continue to do it many time. I think $27 USD (so far) in IAP, + $10 USD for season pass is still extremely fair, as this is in line of Little Prince collab, and Nine Colored Deer collab.
If you were to be fully selective, this is technically the most expensive *Season Collab* ($2 USD more than nine colored deer) however not as expensive as other *Event Collab*
TGC is probably the least greedy company on mobile so far. If you want to show your support, please buy IAP directly from WebShop of ThatSkyGame, so that way they don’t have to give a % to iOS, Android, Google Play, Sony, or Valve. Only a % from the online game charging service XSOLLA
If this game keeps going in this direction, i think i will just quit Sky. I have 2250 candles and no use for them anymore cause everything is IAP or tickets. Im not interested in music instruments, nest decorating or socializing since i am a solo player. This game is becoming a waste of my time. The only reason i keep loging on is because i just love flying. Id hope the game would revolve more around flying, since its called SKY. Its name is SKY, not "FRIENDS" or "FASHION" or "MUSIC" or "IKEA". But there is nothing we can do about how TGC manages things and im gettin tired of feeling dissapointed and burn out.
Okay then quit
i get it honestly, im a mostly solo player and like. i love this game, i love the mechanics with flying, but they're slowly removing or (from my point of view) ruining the things i liked. we aren't really getting lore, its all collaborations and aviary. aviary is nice but what does it offer to sky's story aside from being a callback to the really old players and a nice place to visit? they removed bicycle, which was imo a really fun bug, they changed hide & seek emote in the game so now emotes can't be used at all when a session is active, and there's a game-breaking or at least very detrimental bug nearly every update now with little to no compensation. even if i quit i'll probably still visit the have tbh, but it's been getting harder and harder to play and it's technically easier for me bc im an older player that has a ton of candles stockpiled with not as much to spend on.
Omg flying part is too real. I used to be huge social sky butterfly (my entire tree was full of active friends I spoke to), and now that they’re all gone, I just hop in to twirl in the air, do tricks, and maybe do a quest or two 😂😂
I’m so sad to see they are using the Moomins this way… when they first announced this season, I was so exited, but now that I see how things are going, im sad to know that me and other Moominvalley fans are not going to be able to have their favorite characters cosmetics.
I love the Moomins and I will try to get the pass… but I dont know if I will be able since I live in Venezuela… our country situation is not the best…
Ive been playing for 4 years and dont mind spending money when i really want something, but these iaps are out of control. Im skipping this season completely. I hope a couple months away from the game will make me less bitter about it lol.
Same here. I've only been playing for 2 years, but it feels like an entirely different game lately. Predatory almost. The ceaseless events and collabs with so many overpriced IAPs.... it's wearing me out. 😥
Well it's only sensible. They have to make money to keep the game going and feed their families. It's a great game and I don't mind. If it's too much for you , wait until something comes along. It isn't them prices are high everywhere.
@chad8061 I never said it wasn't a good game (hence, I've been playing since Enchantment) but I can assure you, they make plenty of money.
For a new player to get every iap for days of mischief, it is $198 USD, and they add multiple new ones every year. This is the same for all events.
1 or 2 free items, and then 3 to 4 iaps. That would be fine if they were cheaper, instead of $15-$25 an item.
Like I said, I'm hoping that leaving the game for a few months will make me not as angry.
I'm sure when I come back, I can learn to love the game again
@@chad8061it is already far beyond the level of feed families , it’s just about over profit, more them necessarily and stuff. It’s business
@@Piperatthegatesame. I think aurora season started the "decline" of the game. Before everything was more beautiful now the seasons don't even have emotions and the prices have gone up not to mention that even making friends in the game is more difficult!
Disclaimer that will explain a lot
Before I state the disclaimer, I will say that this does not justify the actions of TGC in any way. Nor does it qualify as defending them. I am only here to provide nuance and explanation to this situation.
-All collab seasons have special IAPS to pay off royalties to the IP, moomin is no exception There is a strict level of what can and what cannot be free with collabs, as if it resembles the IP too much, then it can't be offered for free.
With bigger brands, these items are often the ones with often with the most resemblance to that IP.
-E.g. TLP, Meteor jacket, resembles a special outfit the prince wears, special Little prince outfit that resembles another outfit the prince wears
-Aurora IAPs resemble outfits that were worn in real-life music videos instead of spirits made for the story.
Snuffkin having popularity
-Snuffkin is one of the more popular characters in moomin. His hat and his robe are the most iconic parts of him. it would not be snuffkin without those two things, however Cape is not a snuffkin qualifier.
-Having the hat and robe be in the IAPs follows the same pattern of items most resembling the IP being in the IAP section.
This doesn't justify the actions of TGC but it does explain the why some of snuffkin's cosmetics specifically are IAP, and explains how this treatment isn't new, but only more recently noticed.
I also see your side in all of this. Players were able to complete a character's look via the pass alone and not need extra IAPs, this changed with the season of moomin and that makes people upset.
However a big issue has been pricing as while they have stayed the same throughout history, we end up seeing more of them at once. In addition regional pricing, where you respect the power other countries' currencies have, is not present, even though the currency differences are. This can make things worse for everyone.
As for Viz's statement:
One one hand I get where they come from, on the other, they're missing a lot of nuances. Yes, sky is a long term game, and there are lots of items to get. And you don't need to have outfits to enjoy the game. However fashion throughout human history has had many social uses beyond protecting from something. These social reasons include (but aren't limited to) following, rejecting, or even rebelling against social trends and norms, hiding or expressing aspects of identity and the self, sharing heritage, and showing or hiding your status.
Clothing in Sky and other video games is no different when it comes to social reasons. You are at a point where one bad season isnt the end all be all for outfits. You're at a point where you arent limited in expression or are fine eith what you have. So to tell players, who are limited by outfit expression, to the point where they can't express themselves, "hey if you wanna express your identity in a social video game via clothing you're addicted. Step outside touch grass and get a life." Kinda misses a lot. Video game companies will use this desire to express to get us to pay money, it is up to the players, up to us, to decide not what the devs think it's worth, but if what they have decided is worth it for you
Bro I think clothing in video games is very different actually... the only thing I think could carry over on a lowkey level is showing status, by wearing IAPs.
@@alienjesus796 I'm interested to see how clothing in video games is only a status thing for you. This is an interesting viewpoint.
@@candicraveingcloude2822 It definitely is, at least for sky. To own cosmetics is to have proof of being a “veteran”, which is a title all new moths want.
@@kaleycooper9111 Status of being a veteran and showing higher levels of experience and/or money is certainly a factor that carries over. Not having base game stuff is an indicator that you have played for longer than a few weeks, especially if you are further away from a particular days of event.
However perhaps my comment wasn't clear enough so I'll try again. I am interested in how you feel status would be as alienjesus796 claimed, *"the only thing,"* that carried over, instead of just one of several or many things that carried over.
@@kaleycooper9111 I do not deny that status has carried over, however what I was asking @alienjesus796 wasn't just in how status carried over, I was interested in how it is in his words, *"the only thing* [he thinks] could carry over," *instead of just one of several things.*
Sky is starting to become a fashion game 😢
They're asking for too much already :(
(No hate i still love Sky)
you're not wrong. The cosmetics grinding aspect takes away the magic of the game, although that's my opinion.
@@misslovaan easy solution could just be reducing the the travelling spirit prices
it is basically dress to impress expensive version lol
@@fellonahardrock fr dude! I've been saying that same thing. They don't make any income from the traveling spirits anyways. I feel like they should be half the price of what they already are, it would be a lot more fun and not to mention easier on new players.
@@just_in_key hahah frrr
Bro really said "get a life". I was not expecting to get humbled like that today 💀
I love Sky, I've been a player for five years, and I love Moomin. Originally I was planning to definitely buy the pass this season because of how much I love both, I don't often get the season passes usually unless it has multiple cosmetics I really want, and I don't think I've ever gotten an IAP, but even even I don't I've never felt left out of a season or felt like my enjoyment of the season suffered for not having a pass. Snufkin in particular is a character that means a lot to me, and I always expected that his hat would be a pass item because of how iconic and popular it is, or otherwise the entire Snufkin outfit would be an IAP bundle in which case I'd decide how much I wanted it after seeing the final price and how it looked in game, but I was fine with that because similar things have happened before and even if it's a bummer for those like me who don't often have the spare money to spend on digital cosmetics the game is still fun and I still believed TGC had the players in mind.
But that belief has slowly been eroded especially over the past few seasons as candle prices rose without the candle limit or wax value rising with it, and especially with this season and the 200 candle cello. A 200 candle price would be unthinkable for ANY item a few years ago.
But even then I NEVER would have thought they do something as obviously scummy as split popular character outfits into TWO DIFFERENT PAYMENT MODELS??? There's not any other explanation for it than greed. If this happened early in the games launch I may have given them the benefit of the doubt and wait for next season to form an opinion as maybe they just aren't used to pricing and organizing IAP, but no they've had FIVE YEARS of doing this and have a well-established model of keeping all parts of an outfit together in the same place so players only have to pay once. Now they are using players nostalgia for popular beloved characters against them to try and get as much money as possible. The more a game company's focus is on profit, the less it's focused on making a good game, and I honestly worry for the future of Sky. Unless something changes with the structure of the trees, I don't think I'll be buying the pass or any IAP this season.
I can only hope that this was a result of only one or two people or miscommunication and not something the team as a whole agreed on, but I don't have a lot of trust left in TGC at this point. If things don't turn around soon, I really think this could be the beginning of the end of Sky as I first knew and fell in love with it.
I started playing Sky, on my free time, 4 weeks ago. Idk if I'll keep playing this game. TH-cam just recommended this video for me, I'll subscribe to your channel and watch some of your videos.
I'll leave my opinion about what you said in 4:35, if you're interested.
You seem to have plenty of items on the game, so one bad Season may not affect *you*. What about the other players who have nothing? Did you tried to take a look at the current state of the game by their perspective?
Wasn't you just "addicted to costumes" as them when you started palying and had nothing?
How will beginners "get a life and socialize" if people just bows and then runs from the "Moths"?
("Moths"? Does veteran players see beginners as worthless insects in this game?)
I saw some problems in this game:
Those 9 variations of the default pajamas gets boring really fast, IAPs gets very expensive in some country's currencies, this game lacks male costumes, they overprice regular candle stuff to prey on FOMO and waiting for a specific Travelling Spirit to return may take months or even a year...
(People want stuff ASAP nowadays. Is Sky a waiting simulator?).
People have good reasons to be mad.
One of the main things in Sky is to collect stuff, right?
If it was just to watch stories, its better to watch a show on Netflix or Crunchyroll.
Yes, everybody needs to make money but nobody supports/invests on bad stuff. Nobody wants to buy a bad overpriced product. If we can't keep the old clients and neither attrract new ones, our business will fail.
How does someone sell if there's nobody left to buy?
If we like something, we want it to get better, right? So please, don't defend their mistakes and neither take sides with the greedy corporates that don't even play the game, they just care about money. Take sides with the players, is the community who really cares about the game and keep this alive.
If a game fails to please its playerbase, it will progressively lose more players and will eventually die.
I agree with literally everything you said. The only thing I don’t agree with is the moth thing. It’s a term of endearment. Like how Chinese players call new players sparrows. They are called moths bc they are small, have brown capes and go into the adventure have it be dangerous or not like a moth to a flame.
(Hence why in Aviary shop there is the moth and sparrow pack)
But going back to what you said everything you said is 100% correct. The only people who say this doesn’t matter and who say it’s just a game is the people with cosmetics. Their greed has been clear for a long time now. The F2P players being pushed aside more and more. They do not care for their players and their thoughts. All they care about is getting their bag which in turn is killing their game
And not to mention the whole Sky creator fiasco a lot of the creators apparently are in a NDA or something so they can’t even talk badly about it without getting nuked
So I wouldn’t be surprised if this one is in on it either and is just saying all of that to save face
The moth thing is just a cute nickname because ur avatar started as having brown wings(yk like a moth), we were all moths at one point lol there’s no need to take it so personal
Other than that you do make valid points and I’m glad even new players can see the issue, we are all manipulated by TGC👏
Speaking straight facts. TGC should hire you so they don’t go bankrupt 😮💨
The TGC people have made us subservient to cosmetics. I feel bad for those people who are today's Moomin viewers who will come to play this game only for Moomin, they too will fall into their trap, and you know what that trap is? Collecting candles daily, whether for seasonal items, traveling spirits, or old events for cosmetics. Despite that, every month a new event happens out of nowhere and buy most of the good cosmetics from IAP, and after that, they will go to big events or in live interviews and say that we have made a game that brings people from different countries together, our world is lovely, and we have made a world record.
That's honestly how every ad-free, free-to-play mobile game ends up. They've got no method to keep the money flowing other than in-app-purchases and never ending updates to make the player base active.
I was really excited about the moomin season because I really liked the show, but now I'm kinda hesitant to even consider buying the season pass 😕
My man is a real gem! I really appreciate this. I need TGC to hear this and think about what they are doing wrong, which they have never done in any collaboration season.
Well that's kind of depressing. As a young player, I do not have money, I usually have a bit set aside for sky, but this is too much. TGC, there are kids playing this game. Not everyone can afford these overpriced IAPs.
As a kinda new sky kid idrc for the upcoming cosmetics, I’m saving up for boogie kid lol.
NO WWAYYY SAMEEE
true we should care more about ts
That is if Boogie kid comes 😔🙏
The plush is now ultimate gift
Actually??
@@user-bd4rs2ec1kyeshhh they moved it, it's now an ult
@@user-bd4rs2ec1k yep
I need a moomin elder mask or something. A plushie ain't gonna cut it much for me lol
this makes me so sad, I noticed that this years days of sunlight were more expensive as well, I had put some money aside to buy the surfing board that I couldn't get last year and couldn't buy it 'cause they made it more expensive this time. I don't have the extra money to spare 'cause university is very expensive already and bills don't pay themselves. I wish tgc reconsiders some things.
thatgreedycompany
the truth is, their initial stands exactly for that, I hate them so much for doing that to us. They don't respect us, why should we uh?
I think it’s so expensive because of the IP address for moomin. No one is thinking about that side of things, but it’s most likely the reason everything is so expensive
I get that it's a collab but it's way to p2 look cool we need things thqn other clothes like a roleplay area because barley anyone does that due to cr
i understand that TGC likely has a tighter leash for these collaborative seasons, since they're borrowing an IP, and the actual owners of that IP "need" to make money too. but i just don't understand why they can't do this season the same as they've done the other collab seasons, with the same amount of accessibility for players who only want to pay for the season pass. this on top of everything else that has happened over the last few months has really made sky feel like a different game. it's a lot more unwelcoming, a lot more bald-faced money-grubbing.
being a player for 9 months :D makes me wanna quit the game :D, im already lacking good stuff, now they making it worst for the free to play
thank you for speaking out on our behalf!
Man I just want the reading book emote, it's so cute
I love it!
People also need to understand that the IP address could be the reason everything is so expensive. This happened with cinnamoroll, we only had two free items and the rest were paid, because they had a very strict IP. I think this is also the case with moomin, and maybe tgc can’t have much of a say in what’s free and what’s not
Well, I am glad I personally never heard about Moomin before this collaboration news. I am not a fan at all otherwise, I would have felt shitty too. But, it's saddening to see such a huge shift in ways one can get cosmetics in sky. Earlier, season pass was meant to be a guarenteed way to gain all cosmetics but it was still optional as good, free cosmetics were available too. Now, season pass is not enough, you gotta get IAPs for all items? So much talk for a company that says they want to make a wholesome game and avoid microtransactions like in other games. I sympathize with those who wanted to get these cosmetics because they like Moomin but can't because everything is now IAPs.
4:28 Viz said get a life lmfaoo 😭😭😭
I dont find anything wrong with it, look how people are getting angry and concerned about this strategy... think what your frnds or parents would suggest if you got concerned about these cosmetics.
Welp that's it, skykids! I'm quitting Sky. Too much efforts and no reward. Once in a year I will gather with my friends for fun, maybe. But now i think that doing it in Minecraft will be more interesting and enjoyable.... Thank you, Sky, for 2,5 wonderful years :/
Instead of making IAPs cheap like 0.5-2$ so a lot of players will consider buying them, they make them expensive as hell so way less people even think about buying stuff. 10-20$ for some cospetics? Excuse me, i can buy a whole GAME that i will play for 100+ hours with this price or few kilos of meat i'll eat for a week, not a few pixels I'll change away two weeks later. That's really dissapointing. Idk who's sitting in their selling department, but seeing how they insert more and more "buy please" that feels like their income decreases, makes me feel they are getting paid for nothing.
I stopped playing sky a couple years ago. Always wondered how much it’s changed, just here to see what’s new
Its really not fair cuz i am not allowed to buy any of the passes cuz my parents say its ''junk'' the only time i got the season pass was in the season of duet and one of my close friends gave it to me, but i feel guilty to ask again😔
Your parents probably think there are more important things in their's and your life than the season pass and that's okay. In addition you would be required to play every single day and buy every single item on the tree. In addition your parents probably think think you'd ask for more IAPs or worse, get them off your parent's credit card yourself falling into a trap of never ending money loss and resulting in both you and your family's debt. They want you to have a life outside the game and prepare for actual future stuff. So they think that "seasonal pass junk" will prevent you from having that future.
To you these items are beautiful things that you see as worth getting.
Calling it "Junk" is a bit rude, but this is probably their point of view. Now one thing that might help you is if you're not going for the Ults you don't have to get it, as everything else from the pass will return.
Speaking as someone who has bought a few season passes, your parents are right, it is junk! You can buy whole games on sale for much less than a cosmetics bundle in sky. Also doing daily quests every day gets old fast.
I knew someone going to stand for us. Thanks viz i appreciated.
Finally someone who said it. I've been watching your videos of cosmetics and I've just been seeing how sky is slowly going down. A lot of my old friends left because of this. And I hope TGC does something about it. I never bought an IAP and now I definitely won't when they make it so overpriced 😭
i stopped playing for a while since passage season (i was shattering moth) and i honestly was kinda bummed that i missed 9 deer guide cape. back then i was quite obsessed with cosmetics and actually realized how toxic my relationship with the game became, and how by paying for the seasonal pass i got pressure for having to login everyday and grind. i stopped for good and came back on duets when i finally have leisure time. now i just play so i can get vault elder ultimate hair, and that's like my goal for my own fulfillment, and since there are no deadlines too i can be more relaxed about it. tgc need to recheck back their own values, listen to the players and specially these beta feedbacks, i fear it'll just only go downhill from here if they continue with this path.
Ngl this new season going makes me going to cry even i like the new season but WHY!? imagine ur favorite character was Slit up whole of it this it makes me feel going make me going cry ngl this is so disappointed i was literally hopping to buy this season even i skipped it out the season of duets i just hope tgc listen to us
Not to defend TGC especially in light of recent events but…
Collaboration seasons are just that collaborations therefore most of the decisions aren’t made by TGC but the holders of the IP TGC is collabing with, making this season a ‘pay to win’ was also a decision of the IP holders of Moomin which is quite sad regarding that previous collaborators were so much more generous
I know TGC is also at fault for ruining this season’s financial and cosmetics aspect tho
Normally I don't care about IAPs, if people want to spend the money on something special then good for them. But I've been a fan of the moomins all my life, especially Snufkin. And his outfit has always been an inspiration to outfits of mine in sky. So I'm very happy about this season, at the same time so disappointed that I would have to spend like 30 € if I would want to get all the Snufkin cosmetics. What? That's WAY over the top.
Idk, Moomin content I have seen online is expensive in general. Maybe I'm not looking in the right places, but even in AliExpress it's not wallet friendly. Because I havent seen any cheap Moomin items, I had already assumed this would be the case for the upcoming season as well. I have been playing Sky for a year, and I play to disconnect the mind while doing candle runs. I do enjoy the slow burn. I am proud of all the cosmetics I have acquired with regular candles in the span of a year.
I get pretty obsessive over things unhealthy amount so I got a bit hurt by moomin prices because i wanted to stay f2p (i hate spending money on pixels) and i will probably make myself buy 1 iap out of this since im a moomin fan. (sorry i cant get a life) Am i happy with what we got? Not really. But is it better? Slightly. But moomin fans can see through this bs
Can we all just boycott this season unless tgc listens to us 😭😭
Boycotting is the equivalent of the silent treatment in this case scenario. It doesn't actually tell them what we're upset about. It just says "I'm upset and won't tell you what it is."
We need an uprising and to tell them as best as we can what makes us upset in a polite way. (As in no rudeness or death threats)
I don't know anything about the costs in the past since I started maybe 2 years ago and went on a hiatus in the middle of it. But I am also a F2P player for Sky and Gacha games. I will only spend money on sets or seasons if I think its worth it and have the extra money. I don't necessarily see too much wrong with this because I already have this mindset but I am also not knowledgeable about it. I think it can be an issue because there is too many characters and items are spread out, I can see why it's frustrating for many because you might not be able to get all of them, and it does suck. I never get all the free items in a season, only he ones I REALLY grind for.
I have yet to see toxic comments when arguing about this issue. It makes me happy to see such community
as someone who dont know much about moomin, i got nthg to say about the overall season bcz for me its just boring. as a player for 4 yrs+ since enchantment season, the best season for me was definitely sanctuary. to this day, people still go there n imo its one of the best place ever in sky. other new areas that comes with the newer seasons just completely fell off n i dont even see people regularly going there at all after the season ended longggg ago. im glad i completely stop purchasing the season passes the moment after season of aurora, i nvr regret this decision at all. sky after that was completely a different sky i once used to enjoy.
Aurora 😂😂😂😂 0:57
I'm disappointed. I understand TGC In their quest to fill the spirit branches with items for the Nest, but... Isn't the season about the Moomins? I mean... That most of the cult items (sorry if I say something wrong. It was too much of a disappointment for me that the Snufkin costume is paid) for a donation, and such things as donations in Sky are not very popular. I'm glad that at least the hairstyle, cape and tent are not for a donation (meaning a regular donation, not a pass).
Idk why TGC's IAP is so expensive nowww I thought the snufkin set is included in the season pass🥺 I love sky, but pls TGC -- LOWER THE PRICE ‼️
i love dressing my lil avatar in silly outfits so ofc im gonna be obsessed w cosmetics T-T
I'm not addicted to cosmethics, and actually never made an in game purchase, except for a season pass on Sky years ago... But Moominvalley is my current hyperfixiation, and I'm sad that even if I buy a pass this time, I won't be able to get a full costume :(...
i am so glad the harmonica is at least free. ive bought every season pass since i started playing but i definitely wont be buying this one.
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As someone whos been playing sky since January of this year i dont think im going to join this season.
I was thinking about joining the season, but i feel like it would be a waste of time seeing i was mainly after the invisible girl cosmetics and the umbrella. But most of her cosmetics, like the cape and shoes, are iap, and the outfit + umbrella is the ultimate reward. The only free thing from her is her bell. Which is pretty sad.
Tbh im just gonna skip the season and just grind for both regular and seasonal candles since seasonal candles can turn into regular candles at the end of the season.
i was really excited to join, but now i'm just not anymore :'
Here is a hint: There has been an update to the ultimate rewards
The pendant is still there (kinda has to be cause proof of purchase)
The umbrella is there
The moomin plush has now been added to the ultimate rewards section
Finally Ninny's red dress as been added as an ultimate reward with the invisible moth/default outfit being a limited IGC item at the top of the quest tree.
For those who are curious about whether to buy a season pass, only get it if you really want the ultimate gifts. Everything else from the pass will return in due time.
I am a huuuuge moomin fan and i was so happy when i found out they were collabing with sky however i can not purchase things from the game since i am a minor,and all of the iconic/signature character items are payed and im so sad about that
I’ve been buying every season pass now for the last few years, but I’m thinking of quitting soon.
I don’t like getting to choose between IAPs or the passes (especially since some of these items will likely never come back) and this season is just pushing it. Love Sky, love Moomin, but even I can’t keep doing this for much longer. Not good for me physically, mentally, or financially.
The crazy part about season is total cost of seasonal candles got even higher which someone estimated its gonna be 403seasonal candles?? I hope not true cause that's insane
😭we need to protest HARD against this
I’m so sad about the snufkin outfit. He is my favourite character but the amount of money I would’ve to spend for the full outfit is insane
To have a good loving game is have passion and care for game and community. If there not that, then this not a game but just quick rush money
I usually don't mind seasons that are borind or that are not for everyone. Even though this next season won't be for some people, I'll just participate anyway because I love new things! Funny thing is, whenever I get a cosmetic I really wanted, I end up getting a little bored with some things and wait for new things I don't know or have yet 😅
Thanks for the end message
I kind of wish we have spirits along with the characters npc instead of mannequins. I love moomin, and I appreciate the devs respecting Tove's (Moomin's creator) decision in keeping the story as it is and focusing on symbolism. But I wish we could interact with the characters outside of the main story like in the little prince 😢
Man… I was most looking forward to this season ;-;
this makes me sad cuz i just started playing sky, was super excited to hear about a moomin season but it really is all IAP :(
I wish they'd focus more on lore like they used to :'[
That hair gonna be the new emo hairstyle
I knew that this season isn't for me when I saw that creepy hand looking cape the first time it got introduced 😅
I'm honestly prbably use it as a 70 day candle run, then it'll be kinda worth it.
It is a bit scummy with the iap stuff and less cosmetics/ spirit items- cuz of the nest stuff
Here's is what I think they should do
Add the nest stuff in the nest shop area as a separate area to spend sc on
That way there is more space on the spirit tree for the items cosmetics
This is just my silly idea tho idk if it will actually work or is good
E tenho o veredito: Não pagarei por este passe de temporada.
Preços exorbitantes, literalmente todos os itens são pagos, entendemos que é temporada colaborativa mas nada legal para quem joga gratuitamente? Os presentes supremos são horríveis, esta roupa invisível é muito simplória, o guarda chuva é feio; além disso há itens separados nq loja, não se pode completar um look sem ter que pagar preços extras, cara, os ítens separados no Brasil são o preço de um passe de aventura. Sou uma grande fã de moomin a versão anos 90 fez parte da minha infância e estava animada por isso, eu com certeza compraria esse passe mas, simplesmente não dá para aturar isso. Jogo este jogo há três anos e não consigo acreditar onde chegamos, antes tínhamos itens legais tanto para quem pagava e para os que jogavam de graça e puts- caramba cara, esse jogo virou sobre roupas e quem tem mais dinheiro
Anyone who sees this and is not going to uninstall sky pls put "(no hate to sky)" at the end pls 😭🙏
I usually buy the season 3 pack for myself and 2 alts. I think im not gonna buy the pass this season. Im only gonna buy the moomintroll pack since i like the tail but thats all. Time to take a break from sky and wait for next season.
Thank you for this!
You finally addressed the issue of our addiction. Thank you ❤
4:29 real
That's kind of unfortunate what they're keeping as IAP. Those seem like items that need to complete a spirit tree, not something to be charging at least ten dollars for. IAP used to be the fun little extra cherry on top, not something that's going to price gouge moomin fans. I mean really, tgc is gonna gate keep key parts of outfits. It's just completely the wrong move.
at least with the little prince it was only the prince's scarf, rose, fox plushie, and cosmo cape. Like, you didn't actually NEED them. it was just fun and extra. aurora wasn't crazy either. This is really sad honestly
I don't buy anything of this season. Just collect my candles for ts
Oii brothrr dont worry its all ok!! Create the contents u like we will checkout and if something we don't like we will comment ❤🎉
Snufkin wouldn't approve
Moomin been my fav. Excited even. But when i heard the prices. Damn. Feeling disappointed how they do that. They become too greedy man. I feel like going to skip this now since the costemic i'm trying to take is overprices😢
And this, children, is why I rarely play Sky anymore and when I do it's to be a gremlin in the prairie lobby
I'm glad I've managed to get enough cosmetics to get outfits I like so I don't really care about cosmetics much anymore, but the constant use of FOMO by ThatGreedCompany is still making it stressful to even want to sign onto the game. I played long enough for Duets to get the new instruments and Piant's Flourishing pants, hopped back on for the Shattering event to get the dark plant cape, and from there I doubt I'll play again anytime soon. And I'm only a Remembrance moth.
And the fact that first seasons stopped giving new emotes, and bow even cosmetics are becoming a rarity, is insane. The poor moths.
I'm glad I joined when I did so I could get a little taste of what Sky used to be before it just went completely downhill into TGC's destructive conquest of greed.
Sorry not sorry, This game's DEVELOPERS (All Of Them) is starting to get on my nerves, Treating us all like cash cows by giving us ugly sh*t, No Wonder Most Of My Veteran Friends Quit, Toxic Developers
I am a huge, lore-full craze maniac of Moomin troll, and this news isn't really good for my daily dose of moomin content 😭
The free one is ugly too like 💀💀
TGC PLS SPARE US 😢
We can't withstand this price 😭
I think i will skip this for sure I'm tired of this
when is this season starting again
Lol events with ridiculous iaps wasnt enough now they bring iaps into the season too by clipping from season pass. I wont pay for any of them but I'm sad for the people who wants to pay. With this arrangement even if they pay they can't get a decent outfit. It's just scam.
I’m skipping this season 4 candles n hearts
Man are you kidding. They're splitting up the cosmetics so half is in the pass and half are iap??? I am NOT playing this season
Ok maybe they are being lazy but IDC I LOVE THESE COSMETICS SM.
Another reason to quit sky
personally will not be playing this season
Season of moomin is by far one of the worst seasons in sky cotl.
sad that I joined during one of the worst seasons lol
this is about to make me quit sky permanently i was so excited for moomin but i dont have the money for this shit
I am not a fan of this season😢
Other seasons :
Free vs pass
Moomin season :
Pass vs iap
All seasons of Sky were full of creativity and beauty, but this season shows that a game cannot remain enjoyable forever.😄🌹
We dont like this season
Sorry
Who's th fug is Moomin anyway 😂
First