New Haven getting the shoutout it (mostly) deserves. Fun fact about that park: it’s built on an old cemetery and one time a tree fell over in a storm and the roots exposed some nice corpses
Those CT rail cars look so nice! When they first started CT Rail service in about 2018, the train cars weren't produced in time so they borrow decommissioned MBTA commuter rail cars which was a weird deja vu on my first ride as they had cleaned and painted the outside but changed nothing on the inside so it was like being back in the train cars of my very young childhood.
Lmao, I’m from the “not New England” part of CT technically, but our town was pretty rural so it reminds people of Massachusetts suburbia! Personally, I feel trapped between both identities and belonging to neither like some strange awful curse
There is a free shuttle bus between New Haven Union Station and the New Haven Green. The CT Rail Hartford Line is operated under contract from CTDOT by Transit America, which makes their joint ticketing with Amtrak interesting because the CT Rail Shoreline East is run under similar contract by Amtrak but does not have joint ticketing. The rolling stock for the Hartford line (which some now call the Springfield line) has always been a mix of cars that used to serve elsewhere, some MNRR, SLE, MBTA (MA) and VADOT cars. The same goes for the engines which come from MNRR & Amtrak.
As a NYer, I've purposefully taken Metro-North from Fordham to New Haven to get on a bus to go to Boston (rip Boltbus) just to experience the pure awesomeness of New Haven Union Station. **Much** better than the Port Authority or Penn Station, and the OTP of Metro-North is superior than the OTP of the subway.
vermonter is my favorite train I used to take it from DC to Essex all the time. Always met interesting people when i took it. can't abide by the Montreal bagel shade though
That note about business class having less legroom. Recently when I was on the Pennsylvanian the Business class car actually had less legroom then coach. It was like 100 dollars extra. I really tried to take advantage of the free drinks on that trip…
That's because coach cars on the Pennsylvanian are the longer-distance based Amfleet IIs as opposed to the business class cars which are Amfleet Is and used primarily on the NEC.
Oh yeah, business class on the Pennsylvanian is a scam, more so than other business class on Amtrak. I guess it's useful on the Harrisburg to NYC segment since they would put you in the Amfleet I for that bit, but the Amfleet IIs have SO much legroom that it's so not worth it for anywhere west of Harrisburg!
I live in Milford on the New Haven Line and we certainly don’t feel like New York. Sure we have dozens of trains a day to grand central but we also have a large town green that feels more like Litchfield than New Rochelle, if you see where I’m going. And, unlike New Haven, our green isn’t a giant cemetery to my knowledge. As for sports teams, in my unofficial poll of local friends, neighbors and coworkers, we’re about 50% New York (split between Yankees/Mets, Jets/Giants etc) and 40% Boston teams (Red Sox, Patriots, etc), and about 10% everybody else. Not sure why Cowboys fans live here but some do. I would also argue that 75% follow UConn basketball, it is the state school and has had a lot of success after all, and there are still a small but vocal group of Hartford Whalers supporters around…I realize this may have been before you were born but they up and moved the franchise from Hartford to Raleigh and become the Hurricanes in the late 1990s. Some people can’t let go.
I really would have thought it would have been Windsor Locks that was least used... but then I guess you could transfer to Bradley from there via a bus, is that why Wallingford beats it? I mean, just look at the Windsor Locks stop. It's just a small parking lot, a tiny concrete stand, and basically just a bus stop cover. That's it.
Well that goes away next year when the new WL station opens up, right in downtown, with shuttles to and from Bradley Airport. They claim a lot of Mass residents use it over Springfield.
I don’t understand how this is the least used Amtrak station? Because it’s especially busy coming from and to New Haven and Springfield. So can you explain how it’s leased used?
@MilesinTransit I am amazed by stats at Windsor Locks for such a tiny platform... Left and arrived there a few times... Also have used Springfield and Windsor which is a nice station near the downtown there... My daughter lived in a house in Windsor that backed on tracks. While there, they double tracked to allow more service.. my grandkids enjoyed the trains going past their house.
Sorry for the comment spam Miles, but 11:01 Jackson had the chord wrong: that's just an F Major chord in 2nd inversion - He was singing an F4, you were singing an A4, and the TV buzzing was a C4
I'm actually singing an E4 and Miles is singing a G#4! (I just checked on my keyboard to confirm!) You're right about the TV pitch though - but that definitely makes it an augmented chord :)
@@JacksonBetz Huh, guess I was just hearing your notes wrong then lol Had I heard your notes correctly I totally would've agreed. The real question is: which inversion?
CT was cheap and chose the lower bid of Transit America and Alternative Concepts, Inc as a joint venture to run the state trains instead of Amtrak. It's weird and a little clunky but judging by how Amtrak is doing with staffing and equipment (no spare Amfleets), it was a good decision. Maybe some day when they have more equipment they can have Amtrak run them all. Either way CT pays for both services. Massachusetts only pays for the Amtrak services that go to Springfield, not for the CTrail trains that terminate there.
You should have made the video end in the first 5 seconds, and upload a second, unlisted one >:) Good video as always! Just curious, how come you chose Amtrak station, instead of just… “station”?
@@MilesinTransit, seriously, you guys sound great together singing. Especially in the diners video. You could do some a cappella singing videos, too. A barbershop quartet maybe :)
No bathrooms! I would take off a thousand points for that. And was that pointy table in an old Mafersa car? I rode thousands of miles in those (with one bathroom on the train for about 500 passengers) commuting out of the busy Fredericksburg station, which has, guess what, no bathrooms. And people in southwestern Connecticut root for New York teams? That's messed up.
newark, de is the funniest half-ass amtrak "station", and i bet it gets thousands of riders just from UD freshmen who live on long island or in the city (me)
Probably since it's so close to New Haven, people would just drive there or West Haven for service. Including the CTrail passengers, Wallingford probably has much higher ridership than Mystic.
@@rbjplay13 it gets a lot of riders from MA and the more rural parts between Hartford and Springfield. Yes, it's bad, but the contract for relocation should be awarded soon.
It would be hilarious if you went to Washington Union Station just so that you can say that you went to the least used Amtrak station in DC.
Great April foods idea
I mean... if DC ever gets to be the 51st state, Miles would be obligated to do that.
Can't forget L'anfant Plaza
Predicted the future
@@Mpugsnot served by Amtrak. Served by Virginia Railway Express (VRE), but not Amtrak
New Haven getting the shoutout it (mostly) deserves. Fun fact about that park: it’s built on an old cemetery and one time a tree fell over in a storm and the roots exposed some nice corpses
Gahhh! I guess that explains why the green has so many churches on it!
@@MilesinTransityeah and the 3 churches exist because they had slightly different beliefs in the early 1800s
Exactly the Amtrak series I've been waiting for, looking forward to the rest of this series and visiting my states later this year...Sanderson, TX.
8:55 It's 3:41PM and the board is informing you that the 5:14PM train will be 2 minutes late. I think the board overestimates its own precision.
Those CT rail cars look so nice! When they first started CT Rail service in about 2018, the train cars weren't produced in time so they borrow decommissioned MBTA commuter rail cars which was a weird deja vu on my first ride as they had cleaned and painted the outside but changed nothing on the inside so it was like being back in the train cars of my very young childhood.
Love this series! Jackson is a great partner for your adventures!
AWWW THANK YOU
15:57 that’s the best description of New Haven I’ve ever heard.
Lmao, I’m from the “not New England” part of CT technically, but our town was pretty rural so it reminds people of Massachusetts suburbia! Personally, I feel trapped between both identities and belonging to neither like some strange awful curse
There is a free shuttle bus between New Haven Union Station and the New Haven Green.
The CT Rail Hartford Line is operated under contract from CTDOT by Transit America, which makes their joint ticketing with Amtrak interesting because the CT Rail Shoreline East is run under similar contract by Amtrak but does not have joint ticketing.
The rolling stock for the Hartford line (which some now call the Springfield line) has always been a mix of cars that used to serve elsewhere, some MNRR, SLE, MBTA (MA) and VADOT cars. The same goes for the engines which come from MNRR & Amtrak.
As a NYer, I've purposefully taken Metro-North from Fordham to New Haven to get on a bus to go to Boston (rip Boltbus) just to experience the pure awesomeness of New Haven Union Station. **Much** better than the Port Authority or Penn Station, and the OTP of Metro-North is superior than the OTP of the subway.
14:21 has a rear hornshow form a mafersa cab car, one really nice conductor likes to do them for us fans on the Springfield line! Great catch!
vermonter is my favorite train I used to take it from DC to Essex all the time. Always met interesting people when i took it. can't abide by the Montreal bagel shade though
The acapella deviation segments never gets old!!! 6:17 15:12 16:23
So glad you like them! We've been trying to do more of them every time we do videos together.
I just used this station about a week ago. Th Vermonter doe stop in Meriden at least.
Gotta say this station is nearly a carbon copy of Meriden! Also...did you seriously do an entire video in CT without once mentioning Ned?!
I believe Berlin is identical too - if it ain't broke, I guess! And re: Ned, you have no idea, I am so disappointed with myself :(
@@MilesinTransit Ned is more disappointed
I know :'(
Quote: “Berlin is in Germany”
@@MilesinTransit ned cheated on his wife
Dang ! Least used stations AND retro music ? The intersection of my interests !
"In the middle of nowhere and a long walk to downtown" cracked me up as someone that lives in New Haven lmao
lol loved seeing you guys going to tandoor for lunch. I went there with friends for our last lunch before graduation
2:53 that reminds me 😢 of sandy hook elem in ct many of the kids and their families rooted for my sports teams like the Yankees and giants
11:02 "Aaaaaaa ... this is an augmented chord ..." Perfection 😂
0:04 WOW another fantastic Miles in Transit video on the books!! Minimal but iconic :)
0:05 oh crap there's more
0:35 oh gosh I have to untangle my charging cable
1:39 oh yeah I went to that bagel place VOLUNTARILY and was NOT DISAPPOINTED
2:17 have Montreal bagels ever shown up in the popular culture zeitgeist though
3:05 HA!! So I'm NOT the only one who sucks at New England geography muahaha
That note about business class having less legroom. Recently when I was on the Pennsylvanian the Business class car actually had less legroom then coach. It was like 100 dollars extra. I really tried to take advantage of the free drinks on that trip…
That's because coach cars on the Pennsylvanian are the longer-distance based Amfleet IIs as opposed to the business class cars which are Amfleet Is and used primarily on the NEC.
Gotta check out that pizza place! So cool!
Oh yeah, business class on the Pennsylvanian is a scam, more so than other business class on Amtrak. I guess it's useful on the Harrisburg to NYC segment since they would put you in the Amfleet I for that bit, but the Amfleet IIs have SO much legroom that it's so not worth it for anywhere west of Harrisburg!
Thoroughly enjoyable, as always!!
Thank you!
you got me at the biggining with the fake ending I thought it was real!
I had an error pop up at 5:10 and after your previous bit it took me a second to realize it was real
>CGP Grey in the recommended vids
Say it with me now:
What.
A.
Chad.
Great video as always Miles!
What's the POOR BID system you're using? I have an upcoming trip to Chicago from Springfield MA and it might be fun to gamble on an upgrade
It's called BidUp! You can find the "upgrade with BidUp" option in the Amtrak app or on the website when you're "managing trips"
Tasty is my new high level ranking for stations
1:27 It's the reality where all proper nouns start with "Schma"!!!
Rowan University (my college) also has a Highway running through it
So, will you be hopping across the pond to check out Crossrail when it opens on May 24?
Haha, Crossrail is cool but not cool enough to pay for a flight!
You got me at the beginning for a second
Shoutout to Ned Lamont
I'm so disappointed in myself that I didn't reference him once!
Another two weeks Springfield line will be my regular. Hope to see you
14:08 The guy waving deserves a shoutout.
So, Amtrak employees don't have to witness your entering or exiting the train on a high platform?
I always appreciate Jackson's enthusiasm for Nova artics
SEE OKAY THEY ARE FANTASTIC THOUGH!!! That cab design is SO SNAPPY
@@JacksonBetz I'm more of a New Flyer guy myself, but I'll always appreciate a Nova
Came here from Geoffs channel! So grinders are actually a CT term, why? No one knows!
Came for the trasit videos. Stayed for the acapella tunes.
The station used to be downtown...surprised Choate Rosemary Hall does not provide many passengers.
That looked a fun trip. Nice station but it should a heated waiting area and toilets, in my opinion. The trackside subway car diner was way cool.
14:53 "who is this sunny side"
Kinako Sakurakoji, 2022
Can you do a penn station vs moyhihan station review?
you should do the two only amtrak exclusive stations on the corridor, mystic and westerly!
I was somewhat surprised that Mystic wasn't lower than Wallingford! But Westerly is least used in RI so I'll get there someday...
@@MilesinTransit mystic was ranked fourth as the top tourist destinations in the usa so i guess that makes sense!
There's an always free shuttle bus from New Haven Union to downtown jsyk
I live in Milford on the New Haven Line and we certainly don’t feel like New York. Sure we have dozens of trains a day to grand central but we also have a large town green that feels more like Litchfield than New Rochelle, if you see where I’m going. And, unlike New Haven, our green isn’t a giant cemetery to my knowledge.
As for sports teams, in my unofficial poll of local friends, neighbors and coworkers, we’re about 50% New York (split between Yankees/Mets, Jets/Giants etc) and 40% Boston teams (Red Sox, Patriots, etc), and about 10% everybody else. Not sure why Cowboys fans live here but some do.
I would also argue that 75% follow UConn basketball, it is the state school and has had a lot of success after all, and there are still a small but vocal group of Hartford Whalers supporters around…I realize this may have been before you were born but they up and moved the franchise from Hartford to Raleigh and become the Hurricanes in the late 1990s. Some people can’t let go.
You Should Do One On The Station In Meriden, Witch I Live 2 Blocks From lol
That Is Not The Least Used Amtrak Station In Connecticut
if you think that pizza place was nice check out Old Saybrook station
I really would have thought it would have been Windsor Locks that was least used... but then I guess you could transfer to Bradley from there via a bus, is that why Wallingford beats it?
I mean, just look at the Windsor Locks stop. It's just a small parking lot, a tiny concrete stand, and basically just a bus stop cover. That's it.
Windsor Locks is an awful station, but it's only fourth least used behind Wallingford, Windsor, and New Haven State (!), surprisingly!
Well that goes away next year when the new WL station opens up, right in downtown, with shuttles to and from Bradley Airport. They claim a lot of Mass residents use it over Springfield.
1:29 "It's the Smpire Shate Smilding"
I don’t understand how this is the least used Amtrak station? Because it’s especially busy coming from and to New Haven and Springfield. So can you explain how it’s leased used?
It's the least used in the state of Connecticut: www.railpassengers.org/site/assets/files/1180/ct.pdf
@MilesinTransit I am amazed by stats at Windsor Locks for such a tiny platform... Left and arrived there a few times... Also have used Springfield and Windsor which is a nice station near the downtown there... My daughter lived in a house in Windsor that backed on tracks. While there, they double tracked to allow more service.. my grandkids enjoyed the trains going past their house.
Excellent!
Wallingford is used less than Mystic?
Yeah, Mystic does surprisingly well for how little service it gets - in 2019 it was only the 6th least used!
Also, 5:20 Jackson is become Drew Gooden, Fixer of Roads
Unrelated but now I just think of your frustrated reaction when ever I see buses with dots on their windows.
GOOD, THE RESISTANCE GROWS
Sorry for the comment spam Miles, but 11:01 Jackson had the chord wrong: that's just an F Major chord in 2nd inversion - He was singing an F4, you were singing an A4, and the TV buzzing was a C4
Maybe! I think whatever it was, I was off-key enough that it sounded pretty bad!
I'm actually singing an E4 and Miles is singing a G#4! (I just checked on my keyboard to confirm!) You're right about the TV pitch though - but that definitely makes it an augmented chord :)
@@JacksonBetz Huh, guess I was just hearing your notes wrong then lol
Had I heard your notes correctly I totally would've agreed. The real question is: which inversion?
@@andrewmazzarini2742 I think it's a C augmented chord in root position!
Ayyyyyye my hometown
Do remember the New Haven livestream!
The Hartford line CTrail thing confuses me to no end, why and how is that a thing? Exact same stops, and you just said the ticket thing, why?
CT was cheap and chose the lower bid of Transit America and Alternative Concepts, Inc as a joint venture to run the state trains instead of Amtrak. It's weird and a little clunky but judging by how Amtrak is doing with staffing and equipment (no spare Amfleets), it was a good decision. Maybe some day when they have more equipment they can have Amtrak run them all. Either way CT pays for both services. Massachusetts only pays for the Amtrak services that go to Springfield, not for the CTrail trains that terminate there.
You should have made the video end in the first 5 seconds, and upload a second, unlisted one >:)
Good video as always!
Just curious, how come you chose Amtrak station, instead of just… “station”?
It's a nice solid goal that's a little more streamlined, I think! It'd be fun to explore least used stations on other transit systems/modes though.
Gotta love Amtrak
Diner food is the best
Amen to that!
On the New England part I agree 💯
Stamford! My station!
My only complaint is that it’s cold in the indoor spots
Would love to hear more a cappella deviations, but with lower mic gain.
Us too! The Apple mic is unfortunately very crappy...
@@MilesinTransit, seriously, you guys sound great together singing. Especially in the diners video. You could do some a cappella singing videos, too. A barbershop quartet maybe :)
No bathrooms! I would take off a thousand points for that. And was that pointy table in an old Mafersa car? I rode thousands of miles in those (with one bathroom on the train for about 500 passengers) commuting out of the busy Fredericksburg station, which has, guess what, no bathrooms. And people in southwestern Connecticut root for New York teams? That's messed up.
It was a Mafersa car - super interesting to ride!
Miles - come out the The Bay and we'll ride Bart, Muni, and a collection of random crap transit systems!
newark, de is the funniest half-ass amtrak "station", and i bet it gets thousands of riders just from UD freshmen who live on long island or in the city (me)
Nice
It never came across my mind that Wallingford is the least used station in Connecticut. I honestly thought Mystic was the least used station.
Probably since it's so close to New Haven, people would just drive there or West Haven for service. Including the CTrail passengers, Wallingford probably has much higher ridership than Mystic.
Wallingford got 9,554 Amtrak riders in 2019, Mystic got 28,678 - it is the least used station outside of the Hartford Line.
I was going to say Windsor Locks, the [current] station is an embarrassment
@@rbjplay13 it gets a lot of riders from MA and the more rural parts between Hartford and Springfield. Yes, it's bad, but the contract for relocation should be awarded soon.
2:47 you are SO right
Let’s do most used station in CT
I bet miles will heart this comment
What happens if I don't?
aHhHhH
148/141 55/56 and regionals do not stop here
141 and 148 do stop there!
Ned Lamont does not appreciate you trashing his new station.
"Middle of nowhere" :(
How to describe a train station: t a s t y
As a montrealer, you're wrong 😈
Admittedly I didn't go to any of the really famous bagel places! I need to go back and try one of them, I only ate at a couple chain places.
I love Moynihan hate!
Another RAD random accapella deviation
"It's bigger than I remember"
- That's what she said.
No u leave
i did
@@MilesinTransit Ned Lamont wants to know your location
There are people in Connecticut who are functionally literate in Spanish and not in English? That's absurd.