Alien: Lambert's Violation - Theory
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- Lambert's death scene in Alien has left many wondering what exactly the alien did to her, and if some kind of shocking violation took place. This video explores the theory and how it connects to the alien life cycle.
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“I never acted inappropriately towards Ms. Lambert.” -Xenomorph
*Bill Clinton voice*: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!"
Ummm.. It's "Mx." Lambert...
"When you're a Xenomorph, they let you do it. You can do anything."
*The Jury is full of Yaujta*
Xenomorph: F-
Reading this Comment made me die 😭 💀 🤣
That scream is honestly the best/worst noise I've ever heard in a horror movie. I can't imagine what the fuck was happening to her because I've never heard anyone make a noise like that before. Whether her death was sexual or not, it was definitely excruciating and creative.
To me the most horrifying part of it is not just Lamberts scream but Parker Whimpering…big strong parker who not moments before charged the alien is reduced to a sobbing whimpering wreck…that sound he makes freaks me out ever since i watched it.
It's the hyperventilating noise, its sounds painful, like child birth.
I could only imagine what Ripley was thinking as she ran towards those screams
That’s why it’s sometimes good to not show the kill, having your brain fill in the blank and painting up images of what may have happened is much more effective in scaring you
Terrifying
Grateful for the reminder of how great Veronica Cartwright is in this, the fear in her voice, the way her face contorts with fear in that almost childlike way, she was a big part of the impact of this movie when I first saw it, made it so visceral
that crabwalk made me really uncomfortable
Definitely unnerving, but I don't think the way it's shot (at least the available deleted scene, as cut) quite works. There are moments where it's just blatantly a man in a suit. A physically remarkable man in an aesthetically remarkable suit, but a man in a suit nonetheless.
That may be why it was left out. Because it is such an unnerving image when it's convincing, I can see no reason to cut it, except for those "rubber monster suit" moments.
The xenomoroh was sleeping they fucking woke it up by making too much noise that's what got them killed by that thing!!!!
@@paulgreenwood3748 THANK YOU.
I was wondering like what the fuck are they doing in a room with this sitting on the ground?!
I know right talk about alien isolation lol
I always have a hard time watching the crab walk, gives me chills everytime.
Any fear and discomfort I felt as a result of the Alien and this theory can be easily neutralized by watching that crab walk.
Ik thats is so goofy
A) it takes me out of the movie and just makes me think its a costume not an actual alien (without out it makes me think its a real alien but ik its not its just too realistic)
B) i can definitely understand why it was taken out even in the directors cut
LOL! You’re so right. That segment belonged on the cutting room floor.
Yes thank God it was cut, it could have ruined the whole franchise.
@@alexojideagu Ridley did that by himself, he only needed more 40 years or so
@@bdosreisablenah
The screams go on for a longtime, that along with her not having any pants on afterwards seems clear Lambert was violated. Ridley's commentary on the Alien being attracted to Ripley when she was in her underwear supports this. It is also implied throughout the series that the Aliens enjoy sadistically causing harm to everyone even there own.
Let's be clear here : rape was a major subtheme of Alien. Hell, the Alien got on board the Nostromo by raping and be birthed by a member of its crew.
H.R Giger’s art is pretty psycho-sexual
The alien is a perv
Yes, the original Alien is quite sinister. You never know if it's simply an animal or if there's something more to it.
@@nutyyyy its all animals including us (yea im a smartass)
When I first heard about this theory a while back, I actually had to rewatch the scene because I totally thought she was still wearing her pants and shoes. When I saw her bloody legs I was like "Huh....theory might have credibility!"
It's not a theory, it's what happens
I like to think that the Xenomorphs tail crept up her back in order to pull her towards it.
But having the Xenomorph violate her makes it much more terrifying. And for the reason she is hanging I like to think she was hanging out of the ventilation shaft from getting pulled in.
Wasn't there something in the novelization about the end of the tail being a 'stinger'?
+Darth Decius That was in the novelization for Aliens. I don't believe the Alien novelization mentions it having a tail, at all. You can tell that Foster was working off an earlier script than what was eventually used and he had not been briefed on what the adult alien would look like.
@@BulletTooth504 I mentions a tail but in the novelization they don't specify exactly how Lambert was killed.
Also Lambert was not wearing any pants when Ripley discovers her body.
@@hideandpride1891 Clothes ripped to pieces. Well done, we saw the same video and film. Same thing can often be found with bear victims' bodies, that means bears violate people too? Come on.
I personally think it put it's tail inside of her. It's heavily implicated both by the director and the film itself. You can actually hear Lambert breathing like she is in lamas class before she really starts screaming. Considering how much HR Giger and Ridley Scott fought for many of the images of Giger's work on the film to actually make it into the film I would have to say that a full on shikibob rape/murder would have been too much over the top for the studio and the censors to take. So all you see of Lambert is her naked legs dangling and dripping blood from unseen wounds. Subtle and
tastefully done in my opinion.
I honestly thought it just violated her with its tail
Watching it in slow motion; that appears to be her arm not leg.
Shiskabob Rape/Murder is my next screenname.
“Naked legs dangling and dripping blood...tastefully done” 🤔
@@spammodumpwell if it isn't my old friend Mr McGreg
Here's my hot take of the day: Alien is scarier for adults than it is for kids. To a kid this is just a horrible monster killing people. As you get older though, you start to see more and more of the implications behind the Alien and what it does. Not only do you feel terror, but revulsion at what it does that creates a pit in your stomach prompting a binge watch of funny cat videos after the fact to forget about it.
It’s horror is less about the design and more about the actions it takes
But then watching the cat videos make you think of Jones, and then...
i watched Aliens and Alien a lot when i was 8-10 years old, they were always just movies about this big freaky alien going around killing everyone on board. when i was 20 i decided to watch Alien again for the first time in almost 10 years, when Lambert's death happened i had to pause the movie and take a breather because i was on the verge of tears.
also the scene with Ripley's shocked face flashing in and out of frame with the alarm siren blaring in the background are TERRIFYING. how did i watch these movies almost every other day as a kid???
I agree with this take very much. I was 9 when I first saw the Alien films, as well as every other film and piece of media that the Alien appears in. I was never scared of it, I only found it disgusting. I am much more scared of it now than I was 11 years ago, due to most of what you have mentioned.
Even when I watched Alien the first time and saw this scene, something in the back of my mind always told me Lambert had been, in some way, violated just from the way the tail slowly wrapped around her leg alone. Legit one of the darkest and scariest scenes of the franchise.
I’m assuming the Alien killed Lambert with its tail by penetration but I don’t necessarily see it as an attempt at reproducing...
Definitely think her death was different from Parker’s and Brett’s (teeth to the skull), hence why it’s offscreen
You're right.
@alientheory I enjoy all your videos but this one is especially good. I've seen Alien I don't even know how many times but have never noticed these nuances/themes. Thanks for bringing them to light. Its a dark, cringy subject but you handled it very well with your script and voice over. Kudos my dude. Looking forward to more!
Listening to her scream when she gets killed still gets to me
The Xenomorph has to make a banger of an apology for this one.
Aren't xenomorphs supposed to be hermaphroditic without genitals. ?
Also a good vid to scare you before bedtime
Thorsteinn Gislason have u forgot about there tails
They can stick there tails in anything ;)
Brett Bailey they are literal dickheads (;
Thorsteinn Gislason also a Queen alien has a vag, ever wondered where the egg sack came from
Thorsteinn Gislason But what if the tail is the reproductive element; both functional as a stinger that injects an incapacitating agent into a host, and a reproductive agent, that introduces the enzymes for the process fans refer to as egg morphing. Or something worse again.
I would love to see the creatures have another agent in their hierarchy, something akin to the backbursters’ of Covenant that somehow further the reproductive fitness of the hive. Created by manner of traumatic insemination as is hinted and implied by the horrific manner of Lambert’s death.
Ie, the action figure company Neca, released a white drone that was to serve in the hive as an egg handler, and instead of a secondary jaw, it had a phallic proboscis that perhaps secreted the material that lined the hive, or served some reproductive method like the facehuggers.
When creative restraint is exercised, but the creatures expanded upon, in dangerous and slightly sexually suggestive manners, and the creatures not entirely predictable, alien becomes its most... alien. And frightening. Like the eponymous creature from the Thing. You don’t know what it’s going to do next, how it’s going to brutally reproduce with its hosts, or even what specific form may result from this process. Making it truly the top of the evolutionary food chain, and that no matter what approach you take to eradicate it, it will quickly adapt with a new methology that will eventually catch you unawares, and have you gasping “kill me” as some nasty, indescribable metamorphosis occurs within in you, or of you.
Thats what I thought too, but the aliens instinctive "mind" might contain something, or things that it nevertheless craves, but which it cannot fully grasp, nor fulfill. Since it is possessed by this blind rage as an deep inherent trait.
Something we humans would find somewhat disturbing when encountering lifeforms of such nature :)
Nah. I don't think this theory holds up personally. I'm pretty sure that, of the Xenomorphs could procreate that way, the Alien franchise would be a very different series.
...Like a series that would only show up on Pornhub.
I also think the xeno raping Lambert would too overtly sexual. This series has always bee more subtle than that.
ZaleraArkanus666 I disagree on the "subtle" part...but I totally agree on the first part of your comment.
I think this "theory" of Xenomorphs "violating" women is really cool and though-provoking...but it's also total nonsense given what we already know about the creatures and the Alien universe as a whole.
It's basically just a fan fiction. A pretty twisted (but cool) fan *FICTION* and nothing else.
@Degree7 Aliens fuck humans?
What was subtle ? The literal vaginas that impregnates people through forced oral sex, the Alien with a penis for a head, the sensual silhouette of the creature or all the vaginas and penises in the derelict ?
The Xeno has Harvey Weinstein tendencies
I'd rather be violated by a Xenomorph than Harvey. 😋
Alan Lee same though I'm a guy
Exactly.
#notallxenos
Can confirm.
After Alien: Isolation, now for Alien: Violation.
1:08 I could never make out exactly what I was seeing of Lambert and Parker's bodies in the film, this photo however paints a much more sinister image as to how they were killed.
You sir are a scholar. Your research is extensive and compelling. Thank you so much for this.
Thank you for watching!
There is a comic that actually shows what happens to her. The Xeno uses the tail and stabs it in her back, pushing her towards it. It then tears her apart.
The comic is based on an early script iteration rather than what Scott or O'Bannon intended with the final cut. It is not cannon in any way.
Do you know the thing that I love most about the depiction of the crew of the Nostromo? The fact that they were CLEARLY coworkers, not friends or a family. On board for their skill sets. They were there for the shares, not one another. That is such a real, human component to what work life truly is. It seemed very obvious to me that everyone thought that Ripley was a Bish.
What’s a Bish?
As you might know, in Sigourney Weaver’s screen test, the cocooned Dallas tells Ripley that “… it ATE Lambert.” When I saw the movie in 1979, I (and most) assumed that the creature took Lambert somewhere through the ducts. It also stated this in the original novelization by Alan Dean Foster.
Thank you so much for all the different perspectives on the scene. Only true Alien fans will know what this means.
Seriously thought the title said "Lambert's vacation" at first.
Yeah. The original title to the movie was The Nostromo Goes Caribbean!"
And a half star for fury 161
This is the only YT thread where, after viewing the videos, I cannot wait to read the comments, which speaks volumes to the creative and intellectual levels on display here. Fantastic channel!
This Xeno definitely seems to possess some personality traits, whether through observation or behavioral growth. Like curiosity, such as when it's watching Lambert, Brett, Jonesy, or even Ripley. Or, maybe, a bit of cockiness, as when it displays its various mouth weapons for Ripley during the shuttle showdown buildup. And definitely not out of the realm of possibility is a bit of the inexperienced sexual fumbling of a relative "youngster."
Trying your best to remove the nearly impossible-to-film "crab walk" from your mind, focus on what it's doing here: in what must feel like a "submissive" position, sensing a possible "mate" and even...erecting its tail to a higher degree to follow and understand new instincts, drives, and possibly waiting for a response in kind. And THEN, when Lambert's mind is totally unable to cope, Big Chap stands but does not strike, almost wanting to (and I know this is most likely far too human) continue its assessment/courting (two extremes) of this different specimen. It doesn't even begin to reveal its layered mouth weaponry, choosing instead to almost >smile< in a fashion that seems tame (but certainly feels otherwise to us, and as Ridley Scott spoke to a disappointed Veronica Cartwright after she found that she was being cast as Lambert, paraphrased, "Lambert is the emotional content of the audience").
I've always felt that this Xeno, like any other newborn creature, must still learn at least some of the social customs of its new home, even while the unstoppable operations of instinct and speed of learning drive forward. Along with Scott stating, "Yes, this was a violation-type death," there is no other reasonable conclusion. The horrible death sounds from Lambert leave a lot to the imagination, except for one clear section, and most here would agree with what that is. Also, because Lambert can scream functionally at the end, this reveals that her head/throat would be intact, which causes my conclusion to be "death from fear/fright due to violative attack."
(Just typing this comment made me uncomfortable. However, great movies cause great depths of thought to be examined. Also, someone here (?) mentioned Parker "whimpering" at some point in this scene. I've never seen or heard anything like "whimpering" from Parker. FTM, I'm still trying to figure out what he says directly before the Xeno strikes his forehead!)
There's quite a few problems with any analisis if this scene.
The tail between the legs is actually a scene of bret from earlier so that's not lambert. I think they reused out as they where out of time to film new scenes.
You can tell by the trainers.
For 40 years I thought that the limb swinging in the foreground of that shot was Lambert's bare arm. Not her leg. It made sense to my eyes and Lambert was seen a little earlier rolling her sleeves up. But when I finally realized what I was looking at. It freaked me out!! Lambert was indeed sexually assulted. Her pants and socks...and shoes!! were gone.
One thing I find strange about Lambert's personal history is the whole sex reassignment idea. From the short bit of research I did into it, the sources imply that this procedure was performed at or shortly after birth. Perhaps the movie meant that she was born intersex/hermaphroditic instead, with her parents requesting surgery to remove the male features? Or perhaps in this dark future, it's not uncommon for parents to alter the sex of their child at birth to fit their own desires for their children. Whatever the case, it's a strange yet interesting detail.
Anyhow, great and informative video here!
Maybe it was during pregnancy?
Is there any reference to this gender reassignment surgery before the 2003 dvd dossier? Because if not it seems to be a pointless addition.
@@28-r8b there isn't and it is pointless
@@28-r8bthe text is there in the original movie as part of the nostromo’s crews profiles, it’s just out of focus, the dvd came with all the nostromo’s crew profiles in a higher quality than in the movie so it can be assumed that they were unchanged from their actual appearance in the movie
Happy Valentine's Day Lambert. Love Xeno.
According to my father, he saw pieces of the film in a magazine, and the alien’s tail went up between her legs and ripped her guts out. He said that part ended up being cut because it was too gory. I can’t remember exactly which magazine( Penthouse or Hustler, maybe) as this was 1980 or so, and I was just a kid. He said that part “ended up on the cutting room floor).
You forgot to mention the infamous shower scene in Alien: Covenant. But this is what I wanted to know.
I always figured it ran it’s tail up inside her and out her mouth. This would lift her off the ground and as the tail slowly drove it’s way through her body, she’d be screaming and writhing In unbearable pain until it finally pushed its way out her mouth and silencing her. Her boots fell off her feet as she’s lifted, and when the Zeno withdraws the tail, her pants are ripped off in the process.
Canonically according to the creators, Lambert has her face chewed open and her head punched in and left hanging partially intact.
After watching all the various alien incarnations, I've come up with this personal theory;
You have a Queen, laying eggs, when there's a queen. When a drone's alone, it tries ANYTHING to procreate, (that's it's only purpose when it's by itself separated from a queen) and since it's birth host was human, and it has human dna incorporated within it, why would it not attempt to violate Lambert?
The alien takes on the characteristics of each host to some extent, perhaps these characteristics get past along, (including ones that involve procreation) from one generation to the next - from every host it's race has encountered - literally giving it limitless ways to procreate.
You have egg morphing one moment - then you have the predalien implanting eggs down the throat of pregnant women the next. When there's a queen, it's back to egg laying.
Each time, adding something to the species, ensuring the next generation's survival.
BTW - LOVE your channel.
Well it's also been added that the predalien in AVP 2 was actually a young queen. Young queen xenomorphs have the ability to implant embryos like that in order to establish a hive quickly. Had she had a longer life she would have grown that huge egg sac and started laying eggs.
Why Lambert and not ripley?
Alien is the most terrifying movie of them all. There’s never one point in the film where you feel relaxed. The Aliens appearance seems to mimic the cold, dark metallic interior of the Nostromo. The underestimation of the creature by the crew is all the more prevalent when you watch it again after watching the sequels. There is a safety in numbers vibe to the other films, especially Aliens. In Alien they all go off alone at various points, only for a split second and it’s frustrating but you forget that the creature in this film is completely unknown at this point, even to Ripley. And at the point where most of the characters die, they haven’t yet seen the alien fully grown, aside from Parker catching a glimpse during Brett’s death scene. They all go about their duties half knowing what to expect based on Ripley and Parker’s description but when they see the creature for the first time, you can see in their faces that the sheer monstrosity of it blows their minds and renders them useless and paralysed with fear, also a lot of the characters stare at it as though trying to take the sheer magnitude of the creature in, like Lambert who was clearly skittish before the alien got on board. People debate the rape scene more since the sequels because we have come to understand their breeding cycle and the concept has never been explored so provocatively again in the films, so it’s hard to imagine why the alien would violate Lambert but it’s highly probable that it would use any means necessary to procreate since that’s it’s only agenda and can’t survive for long with the absence of a hive. Maybe it was going to make Lambert a queen. We don’t know that if the Nostromo wouldn’t have been destroyed and managed to dock somewhere that there wouldn’t have been some huge queen aboard with a shit load of eggs being protected by Dallas and Brett Aliens.
Except that wasn't Lambert, the character is wearing sneakers (Lambert wore boots). They switched around some of the shots because they didn't have enough to cut around during the Parker/Lambert death scene.
In the novel there's a part where it says "when Parker sees what the alien was doing to Lambert it almost made him go mad" 😐
@The Fandom Menace It is up to our imaginations what was done. I assumed that the alien had torn them apart or... broke them so they would both fit at the same time. It's strong enough to snap bones after all.
The best horror is left to the imagination. Every possibility, every permutation, contains a multitude of nightmares.
Honestly I never thought of the scene like that! I thought of the scene was the alien toying with its soon to be victim!!
That crab walk creeps me the hell out
What if, because Lambert was in love with the guy who got face hugged (Kaine?), and he loved her that the alien retained some of his love for her and it was manifested in a gruesome rape of Lambert.
Lambert's Violation screams remind me of Christabella's death Scene in Silent Hill.
I dont think that the alien could literally rape Lambert. The Xenomorphs reproduce quite differently from humans. Xenomorph Drone/Warrior doesn't have a penis or any kind of human-like reproducing organ. And the creature certainly can't feel any kind of sexual desire (especially towards humans) that would make it want to rape it's victims.
Most likely the alien just killed Lambert in a very brutal way (like piercing and ripping her body with it's tail). While you say this is a rape-like kill, it is definitely NOT a literal rape.
The only Xenomorph subspecies that can "rape" people are the facehuggers.
Youre fantastic at these breakdowns!
Theres actually multiple versions of how Lambert died. The one we see in the film that the book elaborates on where the alien has tried to force her body in a duct and it wont fit, another in the original script where she hides in a locker, has a heart attack and dies of fright and a concept floated around (which finally appeared in Alien: Resurrection) where Big Chaps acid blood causes a hull breach and Lambert gets slowly sucked out through the hole.
"WHAT COULD BE BEHIND THE DOOR IS SCARIER THAN WHAT IS"
-Alfred Hitchcock.
this scene....tho' we see absolutely NADA was not only was fuel for my childhood nightmares for the next 4 months BUT it also brought the realization to my young mind that i too...like all of us...would eventually die. Its amazing the incident that the finality of death becomes an epiphany. different for all of us. could be a family funeral or the death of a pet...for me it was the death of the character Lambert in Alien 1979.
i just wish Ridley remembered this brilliant bit of film making of his...and that "beautiful ambiguity". ....we don't NEED to see nor KNOW everything within a film...especially those if this genre.
One thing I do wonder about this scene, is why didn't the alien take the bodies like it did with Dallas and the engineer guy who's name I forget.
Did it consume the first two and thus no longer needed to eat? (I know there's the deleted egg morphing scene, but still).
I know this wasn't the original death because they didn't have time to film it, but this moment absolutely horrified me and I'd just rather not think about what the Alien did to her
That intro, lol.
Freud would have a field day analysing *Alien*
How very true.....
I remember Giger explained the original idea was the alien reproduce by sexual method, but fox censored it, there is something like a tribute in avpr
Can’t unsee what you just put in my brain 😢
Yeah, she was raped. The clues are all there.
1: The alien sliding it's tail between her legs in a very suggestive manner. (I am well aware that this scene is actually the death scene of Breth. But the directors decided to use it for Lamber's death, and they knew exactly how this was going to look from the side.)
2: She was screaming for what seemed like 13 seconds. And in-between those screams, you could actually hear the alien doing some weird sounds. Until she finally made her final scream.
3: When Ripley finally arrived to the scene, Lambert's body could partially be seen, hanging from somewhere. But the important thing to point out here is, that you could see her naked legs, with blood going down on them.
Since the alien has no visible genitalia, we can assume, based on the fact it slided it's tail between her legs, that the alien used it's tail to sexually violate Lambert. And she probably died from the shock and internal injuries that she received from the tail, going inside her... female genitalia. Which is why when Ripley showed up on the scene, Lamberts lower half of the body, was naked and blood was going down between her legs.
I agree. To me, it’s pretty obvious, and the stronger indication is her pants being removed, while Parker, who was also there, was fully clothed.
I believe that the Xenomorph slowly shoved it's tail up Lambert's nether region, pushes it through her body. The tail eventually exits her from out of her mouth, and even lifting her off the ground. She's surprisingly still alive at this point but is obviously in massive pain and struggling to breathe, giving off a sort of… panicked snorting. Then the Xenomorph hangs her on something on the ceiling, then rapidly and painfully removes its tail from her, causing her final scream. The extraction also rips her pants off. The massive blood lose is what kills her from here.
That's how I believe the Xenomorph murders Lambert.
Would have been bloodier then, impaled all the way through. She wouldn't be breathing.
But, he probably did penetrate her with his tail, tearing off pants during. It wasn't that bloody.
@@thereisnosanctuary6184Jesus.
Maybe the alien was going to make her a queen as David did to Shaw.
Thats actually pretty smart
Even though it's not the same species, it had a chance that since the queen was female, the xenomorph wanted a queen to rule.
The xenomorph mustve knew that it was a female.
I always thought she was slaughtered by the alien. In Alien, the creature seemed to be killing for food or for survival. If it did somehow try to impregnate Lambert, it would not have killed her. Probably just isolated her.
Great video now I can't sleep.
Although the theme of Lambert's death may suggest s3xual violations, I also think having feminine legs amongst man made structures together with death or gory is something very morbidly captivating. It reminds me of Silent Hill 1 where it incorporates beauty, s3xual suggestion amongst violence and gore and death goes hand in hand.
Only because of examinations of this sort do these ideas even register in my brain. These hints or suggestions, or subtexts people 'discover' or see always surprise me. To me the creature is just killing her in a new way; keeping her from leaving. With a tail between the legs she can't run. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere specific with that tail ...except for her back? I always thought she was stabbed & then jawed. But stabs to the back, particularly the lungs leave the victim unable to scream or shout. (Did the producers know that?) So I may be wrong.
But also I never saw that she had no pants on. Seen the movie plenty of times, never saw that. Maybe she bolts & the lacerating effect of sharp spines on it's tail shred them? Where it then picks her up for the final blow.
Whats the music that begins playing at around 2:20?
So, any chances to see what happened at Hadley's Hope in movie or animation?
Douglas Machado there is an audiobook on youtube now called "alien-river of pain". Its pretty good. Worth a listen if your cleaning or building a model 😊 all about hadleys hope.
A whole movie could be made from the hadleys hope situation.
Lambert:" NO MEANS NO!!"
alien:" i reject your refusal"
Alien: "She told me she was 18 I SWEAR"
Jokes aside Veronica Cartwright deserved a bloody Oscar for her performance throughout the whole film!
It's rare an actor can truly capture what I would deem as true fear. The hyper ventilating sense of panic was off the charts!
The only other actor I feel who has come close to showing such intense heart wrentching fear spams was Leland Orser, who played the Crazed Man in the Massage Parlor in 'Seven'.
And keeping it in line with the channel's content and connected lore he also played Purvis (the guy who had one of his cryotubes hijacked and woke to be told by Ripley he has an alien embryo inside him)in 'Alien Resurrection'.
In Alien, Aliens, and Alien 3 (There are only three, be quiet.) The Xenomorph always has a similar MO when it comes to dealing with humans in a one on one setting. Men, Males; They kill immediately, usually with a puncture to the skull, save for Brett and Dallas. I attribute the Alien 1 xenomorph's behavior to desperation, or biological failsafes. Women are treated with more immediate hostility towards their physical being. Vasquez is stormed by several aliens at once along with the invalid Gorman. Lambert, as we've discussed above, is physically assaulted. Perhaps, and this is my own conjecture, The Xenomorphs, instead of leading towards procreation, are instead eliminating potential threats to the longevity of the hive. Men are simply killed, Women are destroyed. I think that the Alien aboard the Nostromo violated Lambert with its tail to destroy her uterus, violently plunging up between her legs with that bladed tail. Not as an act of sexuality, but an act of removing competition. Maybe.
Hawke The Snake Yes! I love how reasonable this comment is. A great New perspective to look at from. Never took this into consideration but I think I agree with your argument!
Thank ya kindly. I was mulling this idea over after a recent viewing with a few college friends who'd never seen the films before. As I was giving an interpretation of the events of the film, One of them asked what happened to Lambert and then it dawned on me. It's mostly based on conjecture, But hey, it's the best I've got given the source material.
Vasquez was only stormed because she was the tail-end Charlie. They weren't all coming for her specifically but were rather chasing down everyone who escaped from the room. And Lambert didn't have a uterus to violate according to Weyland Yutani's profile on her. Because, she wasn't really a she.
Actually you made the best point for this "rape" theory. Removing competition makes way more sense than the asexual Xenomorph Drone being horny for a human woman.
Hawke The Snake That's a very interesting theory. Kudos.
Absolutely NOT TRUE though. Since it has zero merits to it other than you "conjecturing" because...reasons.
Other commenters already said it but you're completely wrong about Vazquez. And Lambert had no uterus (and the Xenos can pick up on hormones so...).
Plus, you basically only have 2 *wrong* examples to back up your "theory". You can't name any other woman being "destroyed" in any of the canon stories.
So...yep. Cool story, man. But nothing else. Sorry.
You hear Lambert's screams and then you hear a roaring sound from the alien followed by a final scream from Lambert.
Ok, here's a theory for everyone, this accounts for lambert being trans. The alien mistook lambert as female and wanted to rape or breed with her but found out she's trans and the alien killed her the most viciously and most painful way as punishment for not being a true female, meaning no womb. The idea the alien is a metaphor for a serial rapist killer or maybe a true female gives better warriors or breeds a certain type or maybe since the alien came from a male host, it wanted to rape a female. Just my 2 cents.
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Alien Theory you should make a video about the movie Splice..
Then cameron came along and threw all the things that made the alien unique and chucked it out the window
In Alien3 When Ripley said it must have umpregnated her while in stasis. How did the Hugger get out of a hermetically sealed chamber? Onboard systems would have noted an airbreach and recorded it. Why didn't any of the clean up crew, find the Face hugger's dead husk? Ripley would have definitely noticed a facehugger's dead corpse in her stasis chamber. Flaw after flaw in the writing, makes it difficult to follow after "Alien's", if one pays attention.
There was a deleted bit, from the scene when Ripley finds Dallas and Brett, in which Dallas tells Ripley that the creature brought Lambert into that room, and ate her. So I figured this is why Lambert has the word "lamb" in her name, and that this element of the story might have been present in the original screanplay, as I've heard Dan O'Bannon say that the characters' names are one of few things that were not changed when the movie was made. But, Ridley Scott's suggestion of violation seems far more interesting. Also, the original screanplay depicted an all male crew. The producers came up with the idea to take any 2 of these characters, and make them female. It looks like Ridley Scott managed to be creative in his compliance with that.
My theory has always been that it wasn’t meant to be an SA in the literal sense (as the xenomorph is an asexual reproductive organism) but that it stabbed its tail up through her nether region and through the rest of her, like we see in some of the games
I also wondered how Parker ended up in a seated position, like he was posed
An interesting video. The opening sound is nicely done.
Remind me of the Predalien from AVP requiem
As much as I love the Aliens movie, making the alien a hive creature similar to ants or bees it makes the Xenomorph less "alien" in the directors cut of Alien you see the Dallas mutating into something which feels more foreign and alien. And if there was sort of sexual encounter with Lambert and the Alien this is also more interesting.
For me, this is without a doubt the most chilling scene in the film. The first time I saw "Alien" way back in '79, I remember sitting in my seat absolutely rapt in horror, dreading that what was happening to Lambert would actually be shown and not just overheard as Ripley dashed through the corridors of the ship.
Who says that the adult xenomorph didn't have male genitalia and a raging masculine libido?! In the realm of science fiction, anything is possible.
Why would a creature, whose reproductive system functions nothing like human one (with facehuggers as the breeders), have a human-like genitalia and a sexual desire towards human women?
Anatoly Cherdenko
Well, Anatoly, the best I can do is provide a purely hypothetical answer. As I just said, by no means am I saying it's the gospel logical scientific truth. Here goes:
Perhaps xenomorphs, over time, had evolved into a race of beings who, although sex as humans know it is not necessary for procreation, is none the less a part of their psyche and physiology when they reach adulthood, or, if you prefer, become full-grown. We mustn't expect extraterrestrial life to adhere to the same biological facts that apply to life on Earth. To tell the truth, I find the idea of a race of beings for whom sex is purely a matter of primal desire and not at all necessary for reproduction to be frighteningly intruiging.
Anatoly Cherdenko
I thought I'd elaborate a bit more.
Maybe at the time of the Nostromo encounter, the Xenomorphs were at a point in their evolution where they were moving TOWARDS sexual reproduction and away from the egg/facehugger method. Indeed, perhaps at some point in the future, gestation would take place within the body and culminate in birth, as, of course, is the case with humans.
Again, not a sermon, just a thought.
Xenomorphs are supposed to take some of the DNA from their host and it's host was Kane so it does share some human male DNA. That would make it a bit confused if nothing else.
I didn't realise until I bought a plastic model kit of the alien xenomorph that its head is very phallic in shape. I saw the film in '79 and we never get a very clear few of it. I was unfamiliar with the art of H. R. Giger at the time or how sexualized it could be. It seems fitting that the creature being "born" from a man might incorporate into its own new physiology some of its host's characteristics. Since we are given no information about the alien we don't even know what its real looks like and might alter itself to adapt to each new environment. This scene with Lambert still disturbs me. I think it was wise that it is never revealed what actually happened to her. To see it in any graphic way would have been sleazy but to leave it to our imagination conjures up some horrific fates. I do believe that it essentially raped her and her bare legs dangling hints at this. I believe it was in an interview in Starlog magazine she stated that the theories of this were true. The article never goes into any greater detail how her death was causing such a problem while they were trying to film it. As in the case with Jaws were we seldom see the shark it is sometimes better to leave things ambiguous.
Glad that trivia from Aliens made it in. I was about to post about Lambert's back story. I think the alien was exploring her but upon sensing there was no viable reproduction option gave in to its base desires (I still posit Aliens enjoy violence as described in the comic Labyrinth).
No, I don't think it violated her. There's a deleted scene where the Alien when he attacked the second victom. It's tale go's beneath jou, then it reach with It's pointy tale to a person's neck from behind meanwhile its standing in front of the victom. It sticks its sharp tale in her nack. That's the part where she screams. 😱
I never knew the shot revealing Parker and Lambert's bodies was Lamberts suspended leg. I always thought that was her arm. More horrifying now, because she was undressed by the Xenomorph. I wonder if the alien was just curious about Lamberts different bits and parts..
I always felt there was a sexual angle to this film that (mostly) got left in the editing room, probably because the makers of the film guessed (rightly) that such an angle to 1979 film audiences just might be one step too far. I mean...if H.R. Giger were making the entire film, instead of just being the designer/creator of the alien, they would have TOTALLY explored that.
I think even more evidence of this can be surmised when you think about the behavior of the alien in the escape vessel near the end of Alien...it doesn't immediately pounce on Ripley when she is at her most vunerable...it almost seems relaxed, like a predator almost toying with it's prey (or mate, I guess), just biding it's time. Again...the fact they included this scene, with no subtext or explanation, just letting the viewer ponder what or why certain characters do what they do...is just more evidence of how great the original Alien film is, after 45 years even!
Yes, we have to remember Lambert was the xenomorph's first encounter with a female. The previous kills were Dallas and Brett, then Parker as he tries to protect her.
To me, i feel the intention was to heavily imply the xenomorph raped her, as to contribute to the themes of sexual violation throughout the movie, but its not REALLY whats happening.
This is so interesting Ty for the video
Pretty interesting and gruesome Alien Theory episode !
Was Lambert originally transgender, or was it an afterthought that they put into the special edition?
sounds like it was looking to score but found out it was dealing with a transformer or more specifically, a decepticon.
I think of the xenomorph in the first alien as an explorer. It is learning, exploring the ship, and exploring the people on the ship. She was a new form, and showed markedly different behaviour than its other two victims. Any exploration of her body i have always thought was of an investigatory nature.
I wish they would release a gritty gory non cgi alien film
They need to get back to the less is more state for sure... The CGI aliens are not scary and just look goofy...
They did, it was called Alien. Just kiddin ;-D
great video man
I recall watching this movie in the theatre when it came out. As the alien approached Lambert closely, she seemed to know the alien wanted to put *something* in her, so she dropped her pants, and the tail is shown slowly going up her leg. The scene cuts to Lambert's face and she gasped, as tho she had been penetrated, then screams, as the xeno tail popped out of her upper back or chest (I forget). and the scene cuts away to the screams. I was always perplexed why the tail penetration scene was cut in later versions of the movie.
Nuh uh
she got pulled up the duct by the alien, midway of the pull up it was a tug of a war between parker & alien causing her clothes to come off. parker died from trying get the alien off lambert . lambert froze in fear, the alien then bit her in the head. that was the end of both of them. but that crab walk was creepy lol.
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The Alien's relationship with Lambert was strictly professional
It wasnt personal just business
@@Blobby192 exactly
Holy crap. They were trying to wrap this. They had enormous financial problems. Scott was getting brutalized for all the stuff he was letting his creatives get away with. His whole production was a bit, actually way more than a bit, out of control. There is not anymore there there. There is no over arching anything to this. It is a movie, produced by Fox, on the coat tails of SW, to capitalize on SW's box office situation. I love the movie but it is NO more than what you see. That is it.
When I was 11 and I first saw this movie I had a crush on Lambert. Not sure why. Got sad when she died even though I saw it coming.
All that being said I refuse to believe she was transgender.
Too much "fan fiction" in people's ideas on it violating her, the same people get off on the idea of they themselves being taken by a facehugger and dying as a result. If the xeno could sense the difference between male and females, gender reassignment wouldn't confuse it because it most likely could sense the differences on another level, despite the outward appearance. It would be able to tell if Lambert had the proper biology to reproduce. As a species, we tend to over-sexualize and anthropomorphize everything and often times it causes us to want something that isn't there.
Those are some big, odd looking feet swaying back and forth...because of the atmosphere, they look like they're darker skinned...
When I saw this scene, I'd always figured those were Parker's legs dangling there, as in, he'd been torn completely in half and Lambert/Lambert's body, dragged away like Dallas was.
I like when movies left things vague enough to make a case for something like this without it having to be definitively proven as some sort of creators intent or whatever. Just enough to make a decent case.