Which choke is best for slugs?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Shooting Foster style slugs (American Rifled Slugs) through different chokes out of my Beretta Xtrema II to see the difference in group sizes.
My friend over at The Magnum Channel did a very similar video as a follow up to this one. He used the same slugs at the same distance but shot his groups from a Mossberg 500 using only the bead sight. Here is a link to his video, check it out-- • Best choke for shotgun...
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Slugs aren't the same as shot as we all know. Small amount of history from an old timer. Foster slugs were designed from the start to function in both choked and open choked guns. The hollow base will expand to the bore just like a Minie ball. The "rifling" was so the slug could swage down through the choke. For many years there was debate as to whether or not the rifling imparted spin, but Taofledermaus proved that it does provide some spin. Before Foster slugs we used "pumpkin balls" - round balls just like BP balls. These needed to be used in open choked guns. One guy I knew fired a pumpkin ball through his full choked gun, and he swore that after he quit rubbing his shoulder, his gun had become modified choke.
Brenneke slugs state plainly that they should only be used in open choked guns, or at most IC choked guns.
With rifled shotgun barrels, and interchangeable choke tubes there shouldn't ever be a problem.
Thanks for this video. Good job.
Thanks for the informative comment. I am sure this will help someone.
Great story!
Exactly Kirk Boswell..Been tryin to tell folks this for years..
I’ve owned shot guns most of my life didn’t shoot much but bought a rock island shot gun and wondering about slugs thanks for the information it sure helped this rookie
Interesting info! And thanks for the laugh on the pumpkin ball full to modified story. :D
Those are pretty good results for a waterfowl shotgun at 90 yards. I'm impressed.
Great shooting and great video Buffalo!
Hey thanks Scott!
Hey I know you! Way better than demo ranch lol 👍
Scott, what would you recommend for a choke on a IWI TS12?
I don't want a mishap if I can at all prevent it.
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More Arnold-Genie jokes in your intros!
When you CAN get to your comments, know that we really enjoy your reviews and demonstrations. Especially like the shotgun/choke info as a guy who ends up shooting a LOT of slugs on camera and off. Another great video!
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Loving the channel Buffalo. Spectacular groups from a smooth bore, not what I expected at that range.
Oh good -- Improved Cylinder is what I have in mine, and I've no idea where I put the other chokes, so, this is cool.
Improved Cylinder is recommended for these slugs!
what about regular rifled slugs? should I shoot them with the choke removed?
only if you want to tear the threads out of the end of the barrel@@joshwalker3203
An idiom I was taught, and have taught. Is consistency equals accuracy, if you know your capabilities as a shooter, as well as the capabilities of the weapon. That is accuracy.
Great video, thank you.
Paul Harrel called, he wants his jacket back 🤣
lol
I remember as a kid trying slugs in a 20-gauge Iver Johnson with a full choke barrel, and it was throwing them all over the place. Maybe it varies depending on the individual gun, but I think I'd stick with cylinder bore or improved cylinder.
My Winchester 1300 never liked those Remington slugs but would print cloverleaf groups at 80 yards with Winchesters.
Sandstorm9562 Funny how that works. I always figured shotguns were so loose it wouldn’t much matter, but given mine and your results it proves it. Good shooting!
Good on you for essentially plinking with the slug gun. Neat to see.
Your coming in loud and clear here.
Thanks for another great video!
I think your being close to the ground helped minimize wind effects + it looked like a calm day. Nice job. Thanks
Thanks!
Ur an idiot
Gail force winds ain't gonna move a oz. @ 50
I have always had great success with IMP CYL with Foster slugs.
I tend to fire Foster slugs through open cylinder 12 gauges. I like break open, single shots as deer guns, but I do have a couple of M&P 12 gauges, that are pumps and open cylinder, which work just as well as the singles for slug and buck, when deer hunting.
Amazing Buffalo, Turning your shotgun into a Rifle. That's close enough at 100 yards, imagine the energy of that slug on target 😮 🎯 WOW 😳
Great vid ..lot of you guys have really educated me and intrigued me... Im thinking of a way to get more engagement through geometry of projectile..and non barrel threatening material
Hey Buffalo, today is a sad day. Thanks for brightening it up. I always thought modified was best. Cut shells are good man. Happy New Year bud. I’m drinking a bourbon in gratitude to you
I really enjoy your videos. I like that you edit them to take out a lot of adjusting, and switching chokes.
Thank you for taking the time and effort to make this video.
I was demonstrating cut shells to a friend of mine yesterday. It blew his mind. We were shooting them into a steel barrel. The hole going in was impressive the exit hole you could sling a dead house cat through😀👍
I used to have some videos demonstrating cut shells but I got a strike for one of them so I took the others down, They will do some damage!
Yes they will Tatonka👍@@buffalosoutdoors
It's wonderful
You shoot slug with full chock!
wow, thanks for taking the time and efforts for posting this video
You're welcome!
The results make sense. Those slug fins will squish to fit whatever choke it goes through and shoot straight.
Even though I knew that's how it was designed to work I was still surprised at how little choke constriction actually affected the accuracy. Just goes to show what a good design the old Foster slug really is.
Refreshing change from the usual "this is the greatest gun ever made" videos and "accuracy testing" by shooting offhand at 7 yards. Moral of the story...test your gun and loads! Thanks, Buffalo!
you should of tested a rifled choke tube....I would like to see if it was better , or waste of money....
That improved cylinder “group” was you pulled the second shot 4” to the right. I thought you must’ve tried to windage and changed your aiming point. The 1st and 3rd shots being so close to each other supports that.
I shoot tru balls that measure .730 so I tried a few different chokes and I found right around that diameter I think my Carlson one I use is rifled and right at .730 which is perfect cause I imagine that ball pushes up in the cavity in the back and opens it up a bit and makes an even better seal. Best choke I’ve seen slugs go through.
Thanks Buffalo, I just bought a Mossberg 930 JM PRO 24" with choke tubes and the modified installed. I will swap it for the improved cylinder just for that slight edge. It's mostly for home defense but I may in up hunting deer or hogs down here on the east side of Lake George here in Florida. Great informative video. Next time that you are down here in Florida help yourself to a free alligator, we have plenty lol. 🐊🐊🐊
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video. IC is my go to choke for Foster style slugs. I need some gator! :)
I shot a foster through a full choke the other day and did notice its skinned a little lead on the choke 😅 thought id mention it
Enjoyed the Different Choke Test. That makes me curious to do the same test But with my RIA VR80. Might just post video as well. Keep up the good work. 👍
😹At 3:32 I will be shooting from prone position!🙀🙀he didn’t miss a beat when them bullets fell over.. straight business
Ha! I had to click on the time stamp to see what you were referring to.... Man I'm a pro! :) lol
I think you flinched on the 3rd shot, but deer accurate, well down here in LOUISIANA 100yrds is a LOOONG BRUSH GAMBLE, LOL, GREAT video.
Hey - Buffalo. Just a thought, in Olympic shooting competition if the shooter holds his breath more than 6 seconds their accuracy will suffer. FWIW
Great l see the open bore is the most accurate
Thanks, bro.
I like your content Buffalo. I just stumbled on to your channel today looking for info on chokes. I just bought a Beretta A300 Outlander in max5 camo this past weekend and was wondering if I should get extended chokes for it. Just subbed to your channel, thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Interesting... That was pretty consistent shooting. Thanks for the test
You're welcome! I'm glad you found it interesting!
thanks for the demo
Beretta tech support told me that I should only use aa Rifled Choke when firing slugs through their 12 gauge shotguns.
Curious about that! Thanks for the answers! Good video,
Hello, I believe that is a Beretta you are shooting? A400? I have been doing research about shooting slugs with an A400 Extreme Plus. No body that I can find is doing that. Is there a reason you know that we should not shoot slug through the A400 Extreme Plus? Maybe because of the Stealium Barrel?
Good job very educational, but I'm not sure if you don't need scope adjustment, everything vent little bit left.
Good shooting my man, thanks for another great video
Thank you for watching! Glad you liked the video!
Good video brother!
Thank you!
Full choke had the tightest group !
No it didn't. They were equally bad. What this means is there are going to be a lot of wounded deer running through the woods this year.
Have you compared 12 to 16 to 20 to see which shorts the best groups?
On your bench use 2x4's screwed together to make an angle iron looking legs. Cut the top at a 7-10 degree angle so they point out both sideways and front to back. Adding bracing front to back and side to side between the legs will stiffen it up even more.
You can make the legs long enough to sit or stand. Perhaps one of each. Sitting is ok for most low recoil guns but the real kickers a standing is easier on your body.
My friend Thanks.
Can you shoot double buck also???
Can we shoot 100 yards dear?
I think that cedar tree is pulling your bullets to the left a little.
Great shooting sir!
I have found better accuracy with a pump over an auto with slug because of barrel movements
Can you shoot these through a Remington 1100 full choke 30-in barrel 12 gauge shotgun?
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Sorry about that imposter stealing my channel! The old clean shaved Buffalo will be back before you know it!
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Enjoyed your video
Another great video from you! Thank you.
Nice video and great shooting Buffalo.Thanks.
Glad to do it! I learned something!
How many mm is the inner size of the full choke?my s&s barrel inner size 2/3 fix 17,15-17,45mm
great job! good stuff to know. I am a new sub for your channel.
Merry Christmas Buffalo too you and your's!!. :-)
Thanks, I hope you had a Merry Christmas as well!
very interesting video. thanks for the info
Nice shooting, but I think I would move the target about2 inches to the left.
Great video bro
When I shoot slugs, I use an open choke. Slugs don't move fast, I go right behind them and blast those little suckers away! Oh you weren't talking about slugs / snails? Sorry, my bad.
LOL!!!!
a Russian Baikal single shoot over choke works real good out to 200 yards .
You should try the sabbot slugs i got excellent groups at 80 steps an I am 6 ft. Tall. Had a hole in a hole on the 3 Rd. Shot. I was only using the ball on the end of the barrel. Shooting a rem. 870 12 ga.
Good shooting
Thanks for sharing
Helpful, thanks
Good video thanks
Great info
thanks you for posting this video I was curious about different chokes with slugs. I can tell you are a good shooter by your form and breathing, so I think your tests have accurate results.
Hello I own a boss citadel 25 12 gauge with a 1/4 IC chocked is that safe to shot slugs with at 1300 fps
How's that right shoulder?
Tender!
My guess is straight barrel one where you can fit a dime in on the 12 ga.!
4 or 5 in groups is more than good enough to hit a deer in the boiler box cuz you got at least at 10 in bullseye I'm a firm believer you need at least 9 to 10 shot groups truly know the truth group size of a gun
My question is was your scope off. Seemed everything wanted to go left. Cause it seems if you adjusted right a few clicks your slug would be general a slug killer
The scope was not set (obviously). I was only demonstrating the difference between group size. I took the scope off immediately after the video. That is my duck gun.
@@buffalosoutdoors actually it wasnt obvious ergo why I asked. Its a slug through various chokes. I assumed it wasnt sited and wouldn't that be important?
You really should have added a Rifled Choke Tube to see if it does make a drastic difference. But thanks for sharing either way as now I know that accuracy with these chokes is less than what I seek.
Consistently to the left. 4 clicks right might have improved things
It would not have changed the group size which is what I was testing here.
20 minutes to answer one simple damn question
Does that choke info apply to shortie shotguns?
Thanks for this video. I’ve always wondered what difference is really made between chokes with slugs.
I’m now less concerned with having cut my fixed choke barrel down to a 20in modified for a brush gun, mostly for black bear defense.
You're welcome. I'm glad you found it interesting.
Good groups for a smooth bore I would say . Dead deer !!!!
THanks!
Hey Buffalo just wondering if you had any experience with Stoeger P350 pump Shotgun 12 gauge 3.5 mag
I sure don't.
I don't think I'll be using slugs for anything unless I'm shooting at something that's only a yard or two away.
How about center of mass
Results: 13:20
I don't like Remington slugs. Winchester have always been better . I shoot them out of my mossberg 500 12ga with the 26in barrel with improved cylinder. I have gotten deer out to 87 yards with no problem.
Scope needs few clicks to right
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I can see the comments now. Thanks! Gun channels are definitely not given the same treatment as others.
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You confirmed what I have been telling people for decades. I have been shooting foster slugs with my humpback Browning Auto 5 since I was a kid and have not damaged the barrel at all it still measures out at "FULL CHOKE," I shoot good consistent patterns and have never gotten any noticeable leading in the barrel. Over the decades I have fired hundreds of shells, the barrel is in good as new condition. Listen to Kirk Boswell what he says is 100% correct.
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Thanks! I don't plan on changing, I do want to make things better here at the range though. I have a long work commute and don't see much daylight at home so that's why I don't get to put out many videos. It keeps me grounded though. Thanks for watching and leaving the comment!
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When you are shooting observe the front sight or have someone watch your muzzle for barrel flip. When your barrel recoils straight up the shot will be centered. Then the barrel flips too the left the shot goes to the left. Adjust your butt placement in your shoulder and your hold pressure until the barrel flips straight up. This will greatly improve your shooting.
Review the video and see what i am talking about. When you put them in the bullseye the barrel doesnt flip to the left. It recoils straight back and up.
Thankyou for the video.
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Yeah, I noticed his barrel jumping to the left also. Probably because of 2 things. He's not holding the fore-end to keep the barrel steady throughout the shot, and the ejection on the right side probably adds push to the left as well.
I notice the tighter the choke the more the muzzle jumps. Perhaps due to lead swaging through that tight restriction. Great shooting. Nice video, thanks for sharing.
The things we learn from shooting. I really though the full, or the modified choke would've given a dramatic difference in groups. Great video, bud. Thanks for sharing!
I was actually surprised as well!
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Good video and I liked the choice of shotgun used because there are a lot of hunters out there that only own one shotgun and use it on everything from ducks to turkeys to deer. As far as I could tell, every one of those groups was a dead deer at 90 yards, and at around 50 yards (distance where most deer are killed) those would have been groups under 3". Plenty accurate.
Another choke comparison that DID NOT include a rifled choke. WHY? To do a complete real test you should do a smooth bore, cylinder, improved cylinder, modified, full, rifled, then the exact same on rifled barrel. so 6 from a smooth bore, 6 from a rifled bore. 3-5 shots per = 36-60 shots. Better get a good butt pad. THen you could do smooth slugs vs rifled slugs, 120 shots now.
Interesting results. Seems like years ago, every one claimed NOT to use a full choke with slugs. Oh how times change.
The leaves went from beautiful to bare in a couple of weeks there.
I think some of that confusion comes from people lumping all slugs in the same category. Someone cracks a muzzle shooting a Brenneke solid slug through a full choke and suddenly all slugs should be shot from a cylinder bore. People who don't know the different types of slugs should indeed just stick to cylinder bore. Yeah the beautiful fall foliage didn't last long. Thanks for tuning in!!
Buffalo's Outdoors you are EXACTLY correct about the different types of slugs, like Brenneke! I use them almost exclusively for hunting, because of the qualities of the solid bodies. Two thumbs up on your knowledge of what you speak. A breath of fresh air!
I'm not surprised that the choke doesn't make that much of a difference with slugs. I find that a rifled choke tube really helps stabilize the slugs.
You saying I can shoot rifle slugs through my improved modified 20-gauge