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Be careful what you wish for. In 1994 I bought a Ford Ranger with V6. It had a far better feeling clutch than the Chevy S10 which is the base of the Old postal trucks that are shit and being replaced decades overdue. Asshole tire place put the wrong fluid in the hydraulic clutch. Slave cylinder is a doughnut type deal that started leaking and requires separation of motor from transmission to replace. The damn Ford service dealer replaced the starter solenoid twice. I find out later from internet that a wire connector develops resistance from corrosion. I replaced the terminal on that wire myself and never had to push start it again. FUCK FORD AND GM . The one routine advice of Scotty Kilmer that fits generic experience is BUY TOYOTA. Current shopping is headed to purchase of used Kia Carnival (gas) or used Ford e-Transit high roof, range is poor, I'll rent something for any long trip. IF batteries get a lot better,and they might the ICE and all the attached crap that make it work and legal will be recycled.
All gas NA engine reliability, 2 door, 4x4, spring supported bench seat, manual & real non cvt auto, flexible suspension, locking differentials, and all these good features the people crave that nobody else offers anymore.
Toyota has good years & bad years for every model & some models have more issues than others ! They also didn't like going public with recalls until gov. forced them !
@@dirkdiggler2379Yeah that’s why I’m going to get the 2023 Tacoma because it’s the last year for the v6 full gas. I don’t want none of that v4 turbo hybrid crap, at least not for a decade when/if they know it has long term reliability. Can’t tow nearly as much, and has the potential to have way more problems. Only benefit is it is better on the highway when you’re not hauling or towing anything. but that’s not the purpose for most trucks, at least for people that actually use their trucks.
We pretty much know what engines are going to be offered. It's comes down to money. Keep it under 35 for say a TRD Sport and you get the hot motor (non hybrid), decent payload and enough oomph to pull at least 5k lbs.
I don't want 2 rows of seats. I just want a small truck with 2 seats @ 15-20k. Stop putting crap in trucks to uselessly bloat them. If I want a family car I buy a family car. If I want a truck, I will buy a truck. If I need both, I'd rather buy both instead of having a vehicle that is half way both.
@mrdavester they sure can't when they add 101 unwanted features to what should be a simple truck, and charge 70k at a dealership for it when it has a v4. Which is part of my point. The idiots buying 4 seater trucks with 4 cylinder engines that are pushing this useless market forward are the same guys that never tow or do a trade, and want a truck to replace the girth their pants lack
The released starting price just listed for the Stout is $23,000. So much for cheap. That means the cheapest Stout you will fine on a dealers lot will be $30,000+.
@@bsmith8016 Makes sense though. Released to directly compete with the Maverick. That said, I would definitely pay 23k for one. IMO dealerships at this point should be a thing of the past. A bunch of guys sitting in an office costing a dealership $$$ to do literally nothing until someone wants to sign a contract, is just a form of welfare. Companies like Toyota would be smart to fore-go dealer overstock issues and do direct shipment. Leave the dealerships to be auto service centers. I'd rather pay the tow guy the 1k to drag it across the country directly than the shop $8k to sit around looking at internet porn until someone wants their attention.
Don't want or need a 4 door sedan pickup truck. Break out the small 1980 single cab pickup specs and make the bare minimum changes to meet Federal requirements. Only engine a 4 cyl, 5 speed (optional 4 speed automatic), ps, pb, ac and a radio with bluetooth connection. No fancy options, you still have the Tacoma and Tundra for the more deluxe versions.
And a real standard transmission w/ a clutch. some of us have penises and can drive those. They get better mpg, horse power, torque and WAY better maintenance schedules.
@@stoggy4839 it's just not better in any measurable way. Slower, less efficient. What do you need power and torque for in a truck if it isn't for towing? You're not towing with this thing regardless. The torque and power measurements are basically the same nowadays. There's just no justification for a manual transmission other than you like to touch balls and sticks while driving
@@Techno4more OMG... first its a 4 cylinder so you will always need more power and torque. Simply because ... Standard transmissions don't need maintenance. A clutch will go 500,000 miles, i know because i did it. Standard transmissions get 30% better gas mileage, 30% better horsepower and 30% better torque. Cheaper to build, cheaper to maintain and never fail. autos are trash for people who can't drive.
I want all gas, 4x4, manual trans, flexible suspension, compact size but 2 door with more bed and hold taller drivers ok. Not only is a single cab a better work truck but far better visibility. Give a bench seat with springs in the bottom that's comfortable like the old days and capable of holding 3 people easy in a single cab. We even fit 4 in small trucks before in an emergency. Bucket seats don't belong in a single cab period. Any way to ditch the turbo for reliability? Toyota should stick with it's reliable name instead of keeping the modem stupid moto that will end with the destruction of the Toyota name. Turbo should be an option and the engine & drivetrain built strong enough to withstand a turbo should be standard.
No infotainment please. just plain knobs, switches. Old single din stereo with a space that has a built in socket for a phone mount would be MUCH preferred. I don't know one person that uses the navigation on their "infotainment" while everyone complains about going through menus for stereo or HVAC. Don't need power windows, happy to turn a crank. No data connection to my car, I'm not going to pay for it and I prefer the security/privacy of not having it built into my vehicle.
The maverick is a perfect size, but it's honestly a POS. I really wanted to buy one, but they aren't built to last and Ford Execs constantly drive me away from their brand. In this case, it was the "holy crap this is popular, lets raise the price 20% ($5k) for profit!" I'll never buy a Ford and will continue to be stuck with Honda/Toyota.
What a bunch of silliness. Ya have script reader that actually knows very little about the product his is narrating. The Ford Maverick is an attractive truck period. The Hyundai not so much. The Toyota Stout looks like a giant Hot Wheels but that’s alright because we all liked those toys back in the day.
Two things to consider. Toyota would have to build it in the NAFTA market to make any profit. That means they have to tool up for it first, which hasnt started yet, sooo,.. Then toyota would have to accept rhe fact that they might be losing more tacoma sales to a lower profit platform than gaining mavrick buyers. I cant see any way they can compete with the awd ecoboost Maverick. Certainly not at a sub 30k pricepoint. So I agree, dont wait for a stout, its not like they will sell at MSRP for a couple years even if it came out tomorrow.
🏆Do you think the new Toyota small pickup truck can compete with Ford Maverick? 🤔
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Does the Hyundai Santa Cruz last to 300,000 miles like Toyota? My Hyundai sedan went to 157K only.
Yes I do
Something else we would like is a manual transmission.
Be careful what you wish for. In 1994 I bought a Ford Ranger with V6. It had a far better feeling clutch than the Chevy S10 which is the base of the Old postal trucks that are shit and being replaced decades overdue. Asshole tire place put the wrong fluid in the hydraulic clutch. Slave cylinder is a doughnut type deal that started leaking and requires separation of motor from transmission to replace. The damn Ford service dealer replaced the starter solenoid twice. I find out later from internet that a wire connector develops resistance from corrosion. I replaced the terminal on that wire myself and never had to push start it again. FUCK FORD AND GM . The one routine advice of Scotty Kilmer that fits generic experience is BUY TOYOTA. Current shopping is headed to purchase of used Kia Carnival (gas) or used Ford e-Transit high roof, range is poor, I'll rent something for any long trip. IF batteries get a lot better,and they might the ICE and all the attached crap that make it work and legal will be recycled.
Why do they all have a back seat? I'd rather have a bigger bed.
Amen. I'm looking at a Nissan Frontier for that very reason.
Oh sh*t, item six. Ask and you shall receive
They've said there will be a reg cab 6ft bed option. That would be wild.
Chicken Tax, it's really dumb
Hope it really gets here before 2039 and doesn't cost $52,354!!!
2025 launch
@@MrExitboonI spoke to a Toyota sales person and he knew nothing about it, for what that's worth?
Not going to be sold in USA.
Damn it!!!!!
The rav4 prime powertrain would also be amazing. Or a turbo diesel.
All gas NA engine reliability, 2 door, 4x4, spring supported bench seat, manual & real non cvt auto, flexible suspension, locking differentials, and all these good features the people crave that nobody else offers anymore.
Oh other companies offer all that, but with a ton of added fluff junk you have to pay 40% MRSP for.
Never buy the first year of any new vehicle , let them get the bugs out first !
That's never been true with Toyota.
Toyota has good years & bad years for every model & some models have more issues than others ! They also didn't like going public with recalls until gov. forced them !
the new tacoma is burning up the turbos LOL
@@dirkdiggler2379Yeah that’s why I’m going to get the 2023 Tacoma because it’s the last year for the v6 full gas. I don’t want none of that v4 turbo hybrid crap, at least not for a decade when/if they know it has long term reliability. Can’t tow nearly as much, and has the potential to have way more problems. Only benefit is it is better on the highway when you’re not hauling or towing anything. but that’s not the purpose for most trucks, at least for people that actually use their trucks.
@@Aubatron too expensive man! TRD Pros are now 75k? lmfao 4 cylinder?? what the..
I hope they make a regular cab version
Been waiting since first announced, but not interested in turbos, electric, or CVTs. Have I been waiting for nothing?
We pretty much know what engines are going to be offered. It's comes down to money. Keep it under 35 for say a TRD Sport and you get the hot motor (non hybrid), decent payload and enough oomph to pull at least 5k lbs.
I don't want 2 rows of seats.
I just want a small truck with 2 seats @ 15-20k.
Stop putting crap in trucks to uselessly bloat them.
If I want a family car I buy a family car.
If I want a truck, I will buy a truck.
If I need both, I'd rather buy both instead of having a vehicle that is half way both.
Well not every one can afford two personal vehicles. They have to cater to the market..
@mrdavester they sure can't when they add 101 unwanted features to what should be a simple truck, and charge 70k at a dealership for it when it has a v4.
Which is part of my point.
The idiots buying 4 seater trucks with 4 cylinder engines that are pushing this useless market forward are the same guys that never tow or do a trade, and want a truck to replace the girth their pants lack
The released starting price just listed for the Stout is $23,000. So much for cheap. That means the cheapest Stout you will fine on a dealers lot will be $30,000+.
@@bsmith8016 Makes sense though. Released to directly compete with the Maverick. That said, I would definitely pay 23k for one. IMO dealerships at this point should be a thing of the past. A bunch of guys sitting in an office costing a dealership $$$ to do literally nothing until someone wants to sign a contract, is just a form of welfare.
Companies like Toyota would be smart to fore-go dealer overstock issues and do direct shipment. Leave the dealerships to be auto service centers.
I'd rather pay the tow guy the 1k to drag it across the country directly than the shop $8k to sit around looking at internet porn until someone wants their attention.
Plus they just open up North Carolina USA a battery plant
I would take the stout using the Prius prime plowed plant. That would be sweet
Don't want or need a 4 door sedan pickup truck. Break out the small 1980 single cab pickup specs and make the bare minimum changes to meet Federal requirements. Only engine a 4 cyl, 5 speed (optional 4 speed automatic), ps, pb, ac and a radio with bluetooth connection. No fancy options, you still have the Tacoma and Tundra for the more deluxe versions.
Only would buy if it got 30 MPG and was all gas. No hybrid for us.
I’d like a naturally aspirated 4 no hybrid or at least an option of it
And a real standard transmission w/ a clutch. some of us have penises and can drive those. They get better mpg, horse power, torque and WAY better maintenance schedules.
@@stoggy4839manuals are ancient tech at this point. They do not offer better mpg. And this truck isn't designed to be towing lol.
@@Techno4more ancient or not better is better. 4 wheel vehicles are ancient too.
What does towing have to do with it?
@@stoggy4839 it's just not better in any measurable way. Slower, less efficient. What do you need power and torque for in a truck if it isn't for towing? You're not towing with this thing regardless. The torque and power measurements are basically the same nowadays. There's just no justification for a manual transmission other than you like to touch balls and sticks while driving
@@Techno4more OMG... first its a 4 cylinder so you will always need more power and torque. Simply because ...
Standard transmissions don't need maintenance. A clutch will go 500,000 miles, i know because i did it. Standard transmissions get 30% better gas mileage, 30% better horsepower and 30% better torque. Cheaper to build, cheaper to maintain and never fail.
autos are trash for people who can't drive.
I want all gas, 4x4, manual trans, flexible suspension, compact size but 2 door with more bed and hold taller drivers ok. Not only is a single cab a better work truck but far better visibility. Give a bench seat with springs in the bottom that's comfortable like the old days and capable of holding 3 people easy in a single cab. We even fit 4 in small trucks before in an emergency. Bucket seats don't belong in a single cab period. Any way to ditch the turbo for reliability? Toyota should stick with it's reliable name instead of keeping the modem stupid moto that will end with the destruction of the Toyota name. Turbo should be an option and the engine & drivetrain built strong enough to withstand a turbo should be standard.
Most of what you described is called the toyota helux Champ. Which is what they need to bring to america.
Is it a rumor or is the stout coming back period
This small truck 🚚 will come to usa?
No. Not for USA.
The big question is how long we have to wait for it.
Yes, Prius hybrid with no back seat and extra bed length .
No infotainment please. just plain knobs, switches. Old single din stereo with a space that has a built in socket for a phone mount would be MUCH preferred. I don't know one person that uses the navigation on their "infotainment" while everyone complains about going through menus for stereo or HVAC. Don't need power windows, happy to turn a crank. No data connection to my car, I'm not going to pay for it and I prefer the security/privacy of not having it built into my vehicle.
Putting gigantic batteries in an off-roading truck that gets wet often seems like a bad idea.
I’m not a fan of uni-body. I think all trucks should be built on a frame. Just my opinion.
Not buying it if it’s an EV
Add a midgate and the small bed issue would be solved!
I hope they use the OLD TOYOTA badge..i don't like the new one..makes it look more cheap
CANADA???.??
Forget this and just bring over the helix champ.
Problem is it's going to be a cheap vehicle so it probably won't be sold in USA we have to have expensive vehicles that most people can't get here
Maverick begs to differ.
The maverick is a perfect size, but it's honestly a POS. I really wanted to buy one, but they aren't built to last and Ford Execs constantly drive me away from their brand. In this case, it was the "holy crap this is popular, lets raise the price 20% ($5k) for profit!" I'll never buy a Ford and will continue to be stuck with Honda/Toyota.
What a bunch of silliness. Ya have script reader that actually knows very little about the product his is narrating.
The Ford Maverick is an attractive truck period. The Hyundai not so much. The Toyota Stout looks like a giant Hot Wheels but that’s alright because we all liked those toys back in the day.
Get rid of extra seats make bed larger
What will come first the Stout or the Bills winning a Superbowl?
🤣😂😭
I guess I'll have to wait. ⚰
And much more expensive than the Maverick.
They started this fairytale in 2022 never will be a release date
They announced a release date yesterday. Coming 2025
Or they could just keep making the Tacoma, which was famous for being cheap and durable, without all of the ridiculous technology that nobody needs.
Not happening. They want to sell you the 50K Tacomas.
Smart people will not buy it, look what happened to Tundra and Tocoma buyers?
If you want to buy maverick don’t wait. No body knows this stout will ever going to exist and will it be as good as maverick.
Two things to consider.
Toyota would have to build it in the NAFTA market to make any profit. That means they have to tool up for it first, which hasnt started yet, sooo,..
Then toyota would have to accept rhe fact that they might be losing more tacoma sales to a lower profit platform than gaining mavrick buyers.
I cant see any way they can compete with the awd ecoboost Maverick. Certainly not at a sub 30k pricepoint.
So I agree, dont wait for a stout, its not like they will sell at MSRP for a couple years even if it came out tomorrow.
Toyota just announced they're going to make it.
@@tomTrophy Not to mention if its build over seas and trump becomes president there will be a 100 % tariff on it .
I have been waiting for a year to buy a Toyota Stout
I guess only time will tell which is better if Toyota will get their stuff together
@@donjuan6646 if trump is president again, toyota will put the v6 back into the tacoma, in front of that 8 speed. good times will return for ALL.
Why are all the new trucks so stinking UGLY?
Need to be chipper
8 through 2 suggests that 1 is a pipe dream.
still prefer a 1st gen tacoma