Should the King apologise for colonial past? Feat. Mike Parry & Michael Walker | Jeremy Vine
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- Should the King apologise for Britain's colonial past?
This morning we've seen footage of a protester shouting in King Charles' face during his official visit to Australia.
The protester is Australian Senator Lidia Thorpe and she is a well known indigineous campaigner, and is an aboriginal Australian herself.
And she's demanding an apology from the King for historic British atrocities.
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They do not want to remember the history and leave monarchy. But the people are still suffering from empire suppression. Give them their land back, resources, and coins stolen
What coins were stolen? They never had coins.
@@raelenekeegan-vl3bf You think during the expansion of the British Empire, they left the coins alone?
Every house, church, building etc raided all over the world, but the British left the bags of coins? OK.
This is why education is important.
There's no country owners , only conquerors
The Royal Family have all the privileges, with none of the responsibilities. Kings are a relic of the past and that’s where they belong.
The king should apologize for being the king.
This woman is so brave💯💯💯💯💯🌹🌹🌹
She's right. How can a King from the other side of the world possibly represent native aborigines.
Lydia Thorpe is a well-known, foul-mouthed, unhinged, activist ...with a minute amount of indigenous heritage (according to her father). She is mostly Scottish, apparently. 😂😂
She resigned from the left-wing party she was elected to represent and is now is an independent senator. She has no chance of being elected for another term.
She has never done anything for indigenous people in Australia, but stir up trouble with like-minded activists.
There are many, many very successful indigenous Australians in medicine, law, science, education, the arts, sports, etc. Australians are extremely proud, and laudatory of people from underprivileged backgrounds who do well.
And your numbers of aboriginal peoples here when first settled are grossly exaggerated! How would you count their numbers? Their lifestyle/customs were harsh and they had high mortality rates. They lived in small tribes. Their population was nowhere near the numbers quoted.
She should leave. Its the country of aborigines but she wont as she is a typical lefty.
On ya Lydia
If she's an aborigine I'm Nat king cole😂
The uk were controlled by the EU for decades
Yes, he should apologise. He acknowledges the crown on his head, acknowledges himself as the head of the Church of England, accepted the crown as King, but then refuses to acknowledge and apologize for all the attrocities committed under the crown he wears? the crown that makes him king? What the @???
If the kind Dutch King Willem-Alexander was able to offer a formal apology for his country's involvement in the slave trade (2023), then King Charles should be able to offer a similar apology to the Indigenous community of Australia. This is not a sign of weakness but rather shows strength and wisdom. King Willem also acknowledged that while he couldn't speak for his entire nation, "the vast majority" of Dutch citizens "do support the fight for equality for all people, regardless of color or cultural background", and that after acknowledgment and apology, the country could work together on healing, reconciliation, and restoration.
She is absolutely right.
Nelson Mandela never asked for an apology. He simply worked for a harmonious future.
You sent your prisoners there
And many of those prisoners ended up in a much better place - eventually! My husband's ancestors were First Fleeters.
Yes and they ended up with a better life read your history
@@jillmaltbyIT'S OBVIOUS YOU SKIPPED THROUGH AND READ ONLY WHAT YOU NEEDED TO FIND! NOTHING GOOD CAME FROM THIS, IS YOU ARE THE COMMONWEALTH COUNTRIES. sweetheart pay attention, I'm not the one protesting for the land, life, and freedom, there's real people effected by this greedy, that England inherited!!, well took leaving those that survived with nothing.
Love this woman ❤❤❤❤
But there is still consequences from colonalisation....🇨🇮🇨🇮🇨🇮
To all of you who love to pin your poppies every year, if you're going to celebrate the successes you also have to repent the failures.
People today are still impacted by the actions of the past
As an Aussie I am actually a little embarrassed hearing Brit’s arguing on our history. It was colonised and there were people living there beforehand. Deeply insulting you need to educate your people on this topic, just disgusting hearing that grown man speak.
It happened to the British Isles several times as well. Name any country and they had a similar experience. Charles is only a figurehead without power. A majority referendum in any commonwealth country can replace him as head of state
The Aboriginees were living in a paleolithic stoneage and had been for about 40 thousand years.Their life was short hard and brutal with inter tribal massacres taking place.They were not living in some untouched paradise.
Definitely Not....!!
How many times do the UK have to apologise?
The riling up of public hate with fact-less opinions, is piling up so much faster than fact and truth . At this rate, the apologies won’t be able to keep up.
It is still happening in Australia.
I get that many Aussie citizens don't want anything to do with a foreign king, and I respect their right to voice their opinions publicly. I think the British do bury their heads in the sand with regard to overseas sensitivities to past misdeeds, and we've seen over the last few years the resentment there is towards us and the rudeness to our royal family. It's useful actually to know, and we'd do well to heed the feelings. But apologise? Nah, not a chance. We happened across some land many years ago, built it up and left, except for the odd visit here and there on a ceremonial basis. And now those people we left are thriving. We can't change the past and we can't legitimately apologise for the misdeeds of dead human beings. Maybe they didn't feel the need to apologise. But we can stay the hell away and let independent countries get on with what they want to do. We've made a right royal mess in our own land. Let's stop messing up other people's lives.
As an Australian, I would prefer a sensible, apolitical, intelligent Monarch - educated in the rules and protocols of Government and diplomacy - to an idiot President like Biden, or Trump, or Harris ...and the circuses and wasted $$$$ that go into electing them.
The majority of Australians agree with me, thank God!
Australia's heritage happens to be British - laws, parliament, constitution - and it has served us admirably. 😊
We are talking about the people how they were treated and still being treated.😮
Cannot believe how many stupid people in this world today so worryingl😢
English comments, I'm alright jack, jesus wept.
This woman is right 👍🏿👍🏿 in
The only riyal that could apologise would be queen Victoria as Charles had nothing to do with
He enjoys wealth from the crimes committed by his ancestors. He is a thief
I'm no fan of the royals but you can't blame the king for things that happened before he was born
If he is still enjoying the loot of colonialism, then he is to blame.
@@MrsGiddydiddyTommyrot...
@@vincentblack7467nothing else to say so just offend in slang language. You have no argument to make.
Lidia is more English and Irish than Aboriginal and has form of being thrown out such as the Green Party or a strip club. No apology is necessary as the benefits the British gave far out way the harm it did.
He’s living on wealth built on that though.
That is the only country in the world that has no treaty
Ah, these Royal tours are the gift that keeps on giving. 😂
And apologize to Meghan and Harry too🤨🤨🤨
Amen 🙏
The 2 biggest jokes on the planet.A failed 2 bit actress and a empty headed and silly prince😂😂😂
NO !!
Yes he should apologise
The same people who argue we colonised are so in favour of migration in this country. We gave them infrastructure and created what we now know today. Which side are you on? Migration or not because you cant have it both ways. Europeans migrated there and created it. End of.
Definitely not King 👑 wasnt alive at the time.
Our Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, issued a PUBLIC APOLOGY in Parliament to indigenous Australians many years ago. It was gracefully, and tearfully acknowledged by aboriginal elders at the time. Enough!
Five year olds were sent to work in the mines last century. Who is apologising to their ancestors, let alone compensating anyone?
We have well and truly moved on from 200 years ago. In Australia there are many extremely succesful indigenous individuals: doctors, lawyers, teachers, business leaders, sportspeople, etc.
Long Live The King! ❤
There is no way he should,
Never...
No, never
Why is our king even going to the other side of the world. The whole royal family need a total rebrand because this new generation don’t believe in monarchy.
I think you will find a lot of the younger Generation absolutely love the monarchy.
@@PastaSauce. He happens to be King of Australia. 😁 Educate yourself!
Good on her.....🇨🇮
For what? She is an embarrassment to the indigenous and other Australians. She talks nonsense: she is a well-known attention seeker.
NO! King Charles does not need to apologise for the past!
Why not ask the Dutch to apologise as well? After all they colonised Tasmania a south eastern Australian Island, which was known as Van Dieman's Land between 1642 and 1855.
Why is it of all the Empires of the World especially those of European origins, i.e. the Spanish, the Portuguese, the French, the German, the Dutch, the Austro-Hungarian that it is only the British that are required to apologise and pay reparations?
This is the Empire that brought democracy, industrialisation to their colonies that means many of these colonies have prospered from.
I'm not denying that there were many wrong things that were done in the name of the East India Company and the British Empire. However let's not gaslight the good things that were done also.
If the kind Dutch King Willem-Alexander was able to offer a formal apology for his country's involvement in the slave trade (2023), then King Charles should be able to offer a similar apology to the Indigenous community of Australia. This is not a sign of weakness but rather shows strength and wisdom. King Willem also acknowledged that while he couldn't speak for his entire nation, "the vast majority" of Dutch citizens "do support the fight for equality for all people, regardless of color or cultural background", and that after acknowledgment and apology, the country could work together on healing, reconciliation, and restoration.
Ever think maybe they didn't want ''democracy and industrialisation'' ?
India was 25 % of world trade before the British brought those concepts over. Bengal alone was richer than the UK and it was a kingdom under sort of under indirect islamic rule (but with plenty of maharajas and kings to help) and it was doing just fine, thank you very much.
Any subsequent industrialisation and railways was solely for British benefit.
So be fair in your reading of history! It's abundantly clear that the British were there to ruin and get as much loot as possible, not to build people up.
For the record, I don't you should apologies for ppls actions hundreds of years ago.
But you should be able to understand why certain people think you should.
Apologize to who exactly ..
Should the King apologise for colonial past? Feat. Mike Parry & Michael Walker | Jeremy Vine 21.10.24 1229pm indeed. are we noticing a discernable shift in texture of such accusations? in so far as history will be apologizing next up... and old trible elders who lauded it over an alleged foe will be having to apologize for their past misdeeds etc etc.... from crapping in a neighbour's garden to falling drunk in the nation of another, these people need to get a grip. else it measn shifitng the offended party's people, those who have coemover to the west, back to their native lands..lest they become even more offended at western decadence... some of us try to get by others, whether royalty or someoffended or offesnive clique, seek to dominate... woe the neighbour woe tries ot make it seem like it was she being asked about during mother's set back...
@@JJONNYREPP who
Apologise to the Native Americans, native inuit Canadian, indigenous Australian Aboriginals, New Zealand Maoris, South Africa, Afghanistan, Iraq, India, Asia, and Palestine 😊
@A4969Z do they want a apology.
@@A4969Z Comments on ‘Should the King apologise for colonial past? Feat. Mike Parry & Michael Walker | Jeremy Vine 1259pm 21.10.24 apologize to........ as they apologize to their alleged foes, y'mean...? history didnt start or cease with the UK, y;know... if you dont want the culture foisted upon you dont engga ewith it. and, in fact, i think the west would be only to happy to tear down those edifices for you which you deem so offensive... and you can go back to your igloo and tent and whatever else so offends your palsied and jaundiced eyes...
He should get his arse back here and sort this bloody country out
Charles isn't t to blame for the past, but it was expected that there would be protesters within the country.
We must learn from history
This Lidia woman is vile! What an embarrassed to the Australians!
No he shouldn’t the apology was made long ago.
If that occurred many many years ago, she would have shot and not heard. How times have changed. ??
no he should not! people need to move on. him apologizing will not bring those dead back.secondly he did not do it
Then benefitting from their loses
Now u guys can stop focus on harry n Meghan who r loved by the world, u guys now must focus on William and Kate so they can save the royal family 😅😅
NO DFO NO
😂😂😂😂, yes you are King now so fix the problem that your family has denied to fix
Can you explain what problem and what would fix it
He is from a family that benefits from slavery. But you're asking, why the best example is that diamond on your king crown That belongs to india.
@shareezasamad7343 his is family benefitting from slavery now . Is it still happening .. could you explain what could fix it
What are you waffling about? Charles mother the late Queen did more to support those who who wanted and gained independence from the British Empire than anyone. The Empire ended whilst the King was a child.
Can you name any Empire in the history of the world whose colonised nations still want to be associated with their colonisers after they gained independence, apart from those who chose to join the Commonwealth?
@@shareezasamad7343Oh dear he has a diamond how pathetic.
Noooo we should apologise for nothing ever, we did nothing the people are long gone.
She is not a true Aboriginal her father is Irish😂
Then she defo gets it, Ireland and Britain have had their history
If the world as changed then we need to give it back put thungs wright if it was wrong not keep it
Just move on, i dont blame the germans for my great gandfarther death in the war. Learn from history, stop apologising for it.
Every body wants to rule the world 🎶🎵
Hysterical,I wonder why
Absoloutly not
lost 200 years of culture , your joking , dancing around a fire and climbing trees for over 1000s of years is not culture
Ok, we will come and take over the UK erase what you call UK culture...I bet you wouldn't be happy...so don't think what happened to them won't happen to you...what you don't get is, it was THEIR land and they lost more than land and culture...it's the years after stolen land and the systematic abuse of a group of people it still carries on that is the sad part. You still feel entitled to all parts of this planet guess what you are not, either acknowledge what happens and say we are moving on by ensuring this never happen again or get ready for the great UK erasure as a lot of this history is very recent as recent as my grand parents history who remember living through the laws created by recent governments. So wake up the great UK is about to have its day of reckoning.
They were living in paleolithic stoneage for 40 thousand years then the British turned up and gave them civilisation.The painful truth.
I don't think the brits that turned were civilized. Their civilization had been going for thousands of years and in come the Brits with their version of civilization and that irreparably damaged that gene pool. What you don't get is that there has been other cultures and peoples have evolved and survived in different places and have been going for longer that the Brits and yet they come in and destroy on the guise of civilization. My dear the British empire is done and your forced civilization has not worked so its time to pay the piper.
NO!!!
Garbage complete utter garbage. Is the Aussies going to apologize for the way the British children was treated during ww2