Port-a-potty tip: They are usually all situated in a large area with one big entrance/exit. Use the ones that are furthest away. People are lazy and use the ones closest to the entrance. In my experience they are the cleanest.
To counteract paying each day for ice, definitely look into adding some bagged dry ice to your coolers. If you're diligent at keeping the lids closed on them, the dry ice can last for all the days you are camped there.
@@sydneyg6444 I'm coming from Los Angeles, so I usually stop at Cold Star Ice in San Bernardino. Though I believe there are some Supermarkets where you can purchase it as well.
Be careful with dry ice. Don't keep your cooler in a small enclosed space (e.g., your tent) because as the dry ice sublimates, that is, turns from solid to CO2 gas, it can kill you.
GREAT TIPS! Taking my 14 year old daughter car camping to Coachella-our first time this year! We know NO ONE going, so it’s great to hear there are fun, large groups like your that are welcoming to meeting new people 🎉
This is going to be my first Coachella, mostly bought a weekend two ticket as a last minute thing since it wasn’t selling well this year. I just wanted to ask how is exiting once everything is over? Do most people leave Sunday night or do a lot people wait until Monday morning since it’s so crowded
See you there! I used to go every year but life happened and I've been so busy! The old crew is back together and we'll be car camping weekend 1! My 6th Coachella!!
"You're not gonna be fuckin' cooking Filet mignon" that killed me. Have car camped multiple times and yes! this is the best tips video I have seen. Might not go again until next year so will miss all those tents flying around at night and the no sleep noise. Great video! :D
Caaaaaannot wait for W1!!! Car camping is the best. I’m taking my gf and her sister. This will be their 1st time going and my 3rd. So stoked for them to experience it 😍
i’ve been both, but i do prefer weekend 1 because the anticipation of waiting for weekend 2 while you try not to have everything spoiled for you is SOOO tough lol
Good tips for sure, it’s my third time going and just needed a refresher with what to take. Definitely learned the hard way about the ez up and wind situation. Luckily they let me leave to buy a new one and re enter. Super cool about it
omg THANK YOU SOOOOOOO MUCH, we are coming from Atlanta and San Diego and this video is GODSENT! we are camping and kinda clueless about it so, this is a much-needed help. Can't wait to see some good artists there and vibe out. See ya there cuttie
I was definitely making breakfast eggs bacon sandwiches. Dry ice is a good idea and make sure you secure your stuff because the wind will come unexpectedly and your shit will fly away. Not fun!!
Wonderful video Tyler! Hope to say Hi to you and your crew, weekend one. I’ll be in the preferred camping site with an inflatable yellow ducky on top of my car.
This was such a helpful video!!!! I do have one question though… I saw a clip of you guys cooking on a grill are those allowed???? I’m going to stagecoach and car camping for the first time. So excited but also nervous on what to bring!
I read on the website that they don't allow coolers. Do they allow you to bring a cooler into your car camping area with ice already in there when you arrive? Just not the actual venue? (which makes sense). Thanks for such a helpful video!! Going weekend 2! Have fun :))
Sorry for the silly question but this is my first Coachella and I can't find an answer: is the car camping an actual pass that comes in the mail like the wristbands? I am only 10 days from weekend 2 and I still dont have my wristbands yet! I've been to several other big festivals and I've never had this little communication/support from an event
The car camping pass is a separate physical pass that essentially Is a sticker you’ll put on your windshield. It ships separately from the wristbands in a white envelope! If you don’t receive your wristbands, you’re going to have to go to Will Call to pick up your wristbands there. My roommate had her wristbands sent to the wrong address so I have to drop her off at Will Call, then drive her car into the campgrounds with the rest of my group so we can get a good spot
@@iamtylerwells what if I can’t get the car pass in the mail in time but still pay for one? I hope my wristbands arrive soon, that sounds like a logistical nightmare
There’s a spot to park your car and another space to put your tent/easy up. Think of it like having a slightly larger parking space for your car and another empty one right in front of it. Having only one car camping space does make it a little squished to function, but yes you can put a tent and easy up. An easy up is a must have. I’m not sure if he mentioned but NO GLASS BOTTLES of any sort. Hard alcohol is allowed just put it in plastic. You can definitely bring in more than one case of beer. I brought in like 4 solo.
Hi Tyler! I loved your video, very informative. I'm trying to get people together last minute but everyone is being flakey. I don't know how safe it is for just 2 girl camping? Can you elaborate?
thank you Kim! I it’s extremely safe, I would say. You’re surrounded by tons of people, in such close proximity in the campgrounds and there’s tons of security guards walking through at any given point. I’ve never felt unsafe!
Usually, yes, however, this year they screwed up the process for car camping, I heard they had new organizers and it was a mess. The line got all out of order and we were there early, yet got out super far. That’s the good thing about Weekend 2 though is they fix all that crap by then!
my idea with the "mirror". Look at the outfit on BEFORE you leave. See how you like it. Day of, Take full body selfies of everyone. (no posing for them, as you want to see what you look like when you stand normally) and then you can critique the photo.
It depends how many people you have in your group… you def don’t need one for everyone. Like we wanted 4 camping spots (one car for each spot), but in each camping spot we had more than one person
Ill be there with my youngest sister weekend one, this is my first year camping and I appreciate your video. Ill be down to meet up, enjoy some flower,. Mel M
Hey Tyler I’m from Texas going to Coachella for the first time I was thinking about car camping but should I buy a tent when I land in cali or bring one onto a plane ?
Hi! great video so much good info. Do they say anything about showering at the campsite because of all the water on the ground? I was thinking of bringing like a kiddie pool. Thank youuuu.
Not at all, the grass does get a little mushy but it’s usually so hot there it dries up quickly 🤣 I’m not sure if kiddie pools are allowed, but I’ve def seen people bring them at Stagecoach
There are bamboo/wooden crates or even like rubber mats you can buy for that specifically. I highly recommend doing so. As far as the kiddie pool. Don’t lol we brought a hot tub one year and it was cool in theory, but was a disaster lol
If preferred is still available, I would go with that one… Because if you do regular car camping, if you want a good camping spot that’s close to the entrance to the venue, you have to get there at like 5 AM on Thursday
Preferred no longer available ☹️ I also don’t think I will be able to arrive until the afternoon on Thursday. Is the only downfall to not going early is the farther walk?
Ok so I'm flying in from Canada and renting a SUV (there's 2 of us). We were planning to sleep in the car with cracks in the windows and a breathable car cover. We don't have time to buy a tent/canopy and also won't have anything to do with it once the festival is done as we are going straight back to LAX. Is this possible or will everyone be sleeping in tents?
That’s totally fine! Do you have car camping passes? You literally could even sleep next to your car outside on the lawn. Sleeping in the SUV is fine also, it might just get hot in the mornings when the sun comes up but it’s the same deal for tents haha
I bring my suv every year. I lay down the back seats. It leaves more room to pack and once I unload and set up I use the empty space in the truck to create our bed with a lot of blankets and pillows . It also leaves more space for you to set up your area.
Hey Tyler! So I'm not going to Coachella, but I am going to Stagecoach the following weekend.. Am I guaranteed a spot even if we were to show up Friday morning? We are in a crunch and didn't plan ahead at all lol so I'm hoping we can still at least have a spot if we show up friday at like 8am lol. We aren't in any rush to see artists on day 1. I know you said expect to walk 15-20 minutes if you are in a bad spot, which I don't really mind sacrificing, but do you know anyone who's gotten there that late and how it was for them?? We are also taking a full size truck.. Hope to hear back, thanks!
My friend came late on Friday and was just put in a super far camping spot… if you don’t mind that, then you’re good! You def will be able to get a camp spot
Hide all the goodies in the bottom of the ice chest and dump ice over it and (make sure goodies are water proof) and enjoy the best festival ever 🎉🥳 have fun and be safe!
@@iamtylerwells hahahah I’m just so excited to go next week!! I posted your video on my Facebook because I’m tired of explaining myself over and over 🤣 GREAT CONTENT 🎉 very informative 💯
Thanks! I wasn't going to bring my camp shower but after hearing how long and gross those shower lines are I'll be doing that. DO they provide somewhere to fill the water?!
Yes! They have water spigots all over the campsite where you can fill up your bags, but as I mentioned in the video, the bags can get super heavy, so it would be best to get a cart where you can wheel it back to your campsite. Carrying that bag in the heat is not fun... lol
Amazing video 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Coming from you, Coachella king?! I’ve been watching your videos for years! Thank you!
Port-a-potty tip:
They are usually all situated in a large area with one big entrance/exit. Use the ones that are furthest away. People are lazy and use the ones closest to the entrance. In my experience they are the cleanest.
To counteract paying each day for ice, definitely look into adding some bagged dry ice to your coolers. If you're diligent at keeping the lids closed on them, the dry ice can last for all the days you are camped there.
That’s super helpful, thank you!!
Where can you get dry ice from?
@@sydneyg6444 I'm coming from Los Angeles, so I usually stop at Cold Star Ice in San Bernardino. Though I believe there are some Supermarkets where you can purchase it as well.
@@sydneyg6444 Smart&Final usually has it, you just gotta ask the attendants at the front. You can't grab it yourself.
Be careful with dry ice. Don't keep your cooler in a small enclosed space (e.g., your tent) because as the dry ice sublimates, that is, turns from solid to CO2 gas, it can kill you.
GREAT TIPS! Taking my 14 year old daughter car camping to Coachella-our first time this year! We know NO ONE going, so it’s great to hear there are fun, large groups like your that are welcoming to meeting new people 🎉
Omg you guys will have a blast!
Great video! I've been camping three or four times now, you didn't miss a thing and even taught me things I didn't know lol thank you!
Glad I could help, Mark! Thanks for watching!!
They also have free shuttles that takes you to and from Vons and Staterbros!
Thank you for posting this! Probably one of the most informative ones I’ve seen so far. Super excited to witness my first coachella!
No problem! If you have any additional questions, I’m here to help. See you in the desert! 🌵
Hey!! I’m from Santa Barbara too! Going to my first coachella solo and my anxiety is at an all time high, thank you for this video!
I’m so jealous! This is the first year I’m not going, I’ve always wanted to go solo… You got this!
Hell yeah car camping is the ultimate Coachella experience in all its horror and glory! Xoxo have fun babe!
This is going to be my first Coachella, mostly bought a weekend two ticket as a last minute thing since it wasn’t selling well this year.
I just wanted to ask how is exiting once everything is over? Do most people leave Sunday night or do a lot people wait until Monday morning since it’s so crowded
Thank you for the tips 🙏 this will be my first Coachella 2023 and I so excited 🫡
you will have such a great time!
See you there! I used to go every year but life happened and I've been so busy! The old crew is back together and we'll be car camping weekend 1! My 6th Coachella!!
thank you for the tips im going to coachella it will be my 1st time attending coachella I got VIP for both weekends
"You're not gonna be fuckin' cooking Filet mignon" that killed me. Have car camped multiple times and yes! this is the best tips video I have seen. Might not go again until next year so will miss all those tents flying around at night and the no sleep noise. Great video! :D
Thank you so much love!
This will be my first time going after waiting for 3 years! This video really helps with my anxiety! Great tips. Thank you
Why 3 years?
I am a first time Coachella goer and camper and this was so helpful! You're just like me fr! Haha! I loved the tips! :) THANK YOU!
thank you for watching!! Have so much fun! What weekend are you going?
@@iamtylerwells Thank you so much! Weekend 2! :)
I've been car camping twice and was looking to see how I can improve this year. This has been the best video I've found by far.
Thank you so much!!!
Caaaaaannot wait for W1!!! Car camping is the best. I’m taking my gf and her sister. This will be their 1st time going and my 3rd. So stoked for them to experience it 😍
SUPER HELPFUL!! Going for the first time and camping for the first time so should be interesting but I think I’m prepared now!
thanks for the tips! what weekend do you go?
i’ve been both, but i do prefer weekend 1 because the anticipation of waiting for weekend 2 while you try not to have everything spoiled for you is SOOO tough lol
Thank you for the links!! This is so helpful. Hope you have an amazing Coachella if you are going this year 😊
“You’re not gonna be cooking fucking filet mignon!” Bahahaha 🤣🤣 this made my day
This was incredibly helpful. Thank you so much!!🩷
You're so welcome!
Good tips for sure, it’s my third time going and just needed a refresher with what to take. Definitely learned the hard way about the ez up and wind situation. Luckily they let me leave to buy a new one and re enter. Super cool about it
omg THANK YOU SOOOOOOO MUCH, we are coming from Atlanta and San Diego and this video is GODSENT! we are camping and kinda clueless about it so, this is a much-needed help. Can't wait to see some good artists there and vibe out. See ya there cuttie
I was definitely making breakfast eggs bacon sandwiches. Dry ice is a good idea and make sure you secure your stuff because the wind will come unexpectedly and your shit will fly away. Not fun!!
See you weekend 1 bro. First time camping w/ my group... none of us are great planners lol
Hahah hope this helped! If you have any other questions, I’m here to help
Thanks boo! I needed this.
You are so welcome
Omg thank you so much for this I watched like 5 other videos and I was so bored yours was short and sweet and I love to be clean too lol!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Great tips! Thanks for the video, Tyler. Hope you had a lot of fun during Weekend One!
Coachella 1st timer & I can’t wait for April
Great advice. thanks, Tyler!!!
Thank You Very Helpful! First Time Going To Coachella Next Week ! Very Excited ! 😄
What about lighting? Do you bring battery lights, string lights, or ?
Solar powered string lights are great!
I’m going wknd 1 for the first time!
You’re gonna have a blast :)
You were cracking me up 🤣🤣 thank you for the tips!! I’ll be at Weekend 1!! First time car camping ⛺️
See you there babe! You’re going to have a blast!!
thank you so much for your video. helped so much
Wonderful video Tyler! Hope to say Hi to you and your crew, weekend one. I’ll be in the preferred camping site with an inflatable yellow ducky on top of my car.
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This was helpful gona be there for weeknd 1 this is my first time going can’t wait
Tysm for making this video! I feel less anxious about my first Coachella ❤️
This was such a helpful video!!!! I do have one question though… I saw a clip of you guys cooking on a grill are those allowed???? I’m going to stagecoach and car camping for the first time. So excited but also nervous on what to bring!
Thanks for the tips! Going weekend 2! ✌🏾
I read on the website that they don't allow coolers. Do they allow you to bring a cooler into your car camping area with ice already in there when you arrive? Just not the actual venue? (which makes sense). Thanks for such a helpful video!! Going weekend 2! Have fun :))
Yay I’m going to weekend 2 as well! :)
Coolers are allowed.
Thank you so much for this! So helpful 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
See you Weekend 1! Thank you for all the tips, I may go car camping next Coachella forsure
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I’ve never car Kim will be attending for the first time but I don’t have a car camping pass suggestions?
I’ve never been to Coachella and I cannot longer by a car camping pass ? Ani tip to Help me ?
Sorry for the silly question but this is my first Coachella and I can't find an answer: is the car camping an actual pass that comes in the mail like the wristbands? I am only 10 days from weekend 2 and I still dont have my wristbands yet! I've been to several other big festivals and I've never had this little communication/support from an event
The car camping pass is a separate physical pass that essentially Is a sticker you’ll put on your windshield. It ships separately from the wristbands in a white envelope! If you don’t receive your wristbands, you’re going to have to go to Will Call to pick up your wristbands there. My roommate had her wristbands sent to the wrong address so I have to drop her off at Will Call, then drive her car into the campgrounds with the rest of my group so we can get a good spot
@@iamtylerwells what if I can’t get the car pass in the mail in time but still pay for one? I hope my wristbands arrive soon, that sounds like a logistical nightmare
@@WebsCollects you’ll have to pick that up as will call as well unfortunately!
amazing stuff here! wish i had this at my first coachella. definitely gave me some friendly reminders
Hi, this was super helpful - thank you!
Will I have space to put up both a tent and an easy up in a single car camping spot?
Also, is the one beer box rule allowed rule per person or per car? What about hard alc?
There’s a spot to park your car and another space to put your tent/easy up. Think of it like having a slightly larger parking space for your car and another empty one right in front of it. Having only one car camping space does make it a little squished to function, but yes you can put a tent and easy up. An easy up is a must have. I’m not sure if he mentioned but NO GLASS BOTTLES of any sort. Hard alcohol is allowed just put it in plastic. You can definitely bring in more than one case of beer. I brought in like 4 solo.
@@rayalso9993 thanks so much!
Hi Tyler! I loved your video, very informative. I'm trying to get people together last minute but everyone is being flakey. I don't know how safe it is for just 2 girl camping? Can you elaborate?
thank you Kim! I it’s extremely safe, I would say. You’re surrounded by tons of people, in such close proximity in the campgrounds and there’s tons of security guards walking through at any given point. I’ve never felt unsafe!
Thanks, great info! See you this weekend!
Thank you so much!! This is gonna be my first Coachella!!
Thank you . This is really informative. Keep it up!
Glad it was helpful!
Love the tips! It’s my very first time and I’m so excited ☺️
About checking in early... would you say the FIRST people in line get the best spots?
Usually, yes, however, this year they screwed up the process for car camping, I heard they had new organizers and it was a mess. The line got all out of order and we were there early, yet got out super far. That’s the good thing about Weekend 2 though is they fix all that crap by then!
my idea with the "mirror". Look at the outfit on BEFORE you leave. See how you like it. Day of, Take full body selfies of everyone. (no posing for them, as you want to see what you look like when you stand normally) and then you can critique the photo.
Thaaaank u! This was great
See you there. Thanks for the tips!
See you there man!!
"your not gonna be cooking f-ing filet minion when your there" i am dead LOL. i want to go anywhere with this guy
I don’t know if you remember me but I met you at Coachella and brought up how I watched your video 🤍🤍
Yes!! So nice to meet u!!
Hey mate, very informative thank you
i blacked out at camp, fell asleep and missed the entire day 2 of Coachella 2019 🙃😆 it’s a marathon not a sprint friends
Great video! Does each person going need a car camping pass or is one valid for your whole group?
It depends how many people you have in your group… you def don’t need one for everyone. Like we wanted 4 camping spots (one car for each spot), but in each camping spot we had more than one person
@@iamtylerwells thank you so much! super helpful!!
Im going this year but i can’t be there that early? I was planning to arrive around noon, is there a problem besides not getting a great spot ?
I have a weekend 2 + shuttle pass ticket lmk I have proof of purchase
Where do I hide the weed?
Ill be there with my youngest sister weekend one, this is my first year camping and I appreciate your video. Ill be down to meet up, enjoy some flower,. Mel M
Hey Tyler I’m from Texas going to Coachella for the first time I was thinking about car camping but should I buy a tent when I land in cali or bring one onto a plane ?
if you can check it, bring one! if not, you can buy one while you’re out here
ILL BE THERE WEEKND 1 PERIODTTTT
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Is there a place to park bicycles safely?
this, I’m not sure… sorry!
The sass. I love it
I saw they said no rugs allowed, are they rlly strict on that ? If so what would you recommend to bring instead to place on the floor
Buy a few large picnic/beach blankets. They also come in handy inside the tent. Plus you can get some really cool ones too
Just bring beach towels or blankets!
For car camping, can you sleep in the car or do you still need a tent?
You can totally sleep in your car!
This was so helpful!! Hope to see you there
Weekend 1?!
@@iamtylerwells yesssir!! Currently convincing everyone need a portable shower lmao
@@krystalmaya_ omg it’s a non-negotiable lmao hope to see you there love!!!
Hey! The campsite is 10x30 is that taken up by your vehicle at all or is that entire square footage for the campsite?
Hi! Those dimensions include your vehicle
You did a great job buddy! I'll be working there... hope you have a blast! Keep pimpinthatsh!t... much love
Yasss! Catch me working in the Heineken Beer Garden! See y’all soon! 😝
Queen!! Thanks for the subscribe! See you soon boo!
How does the alcohol to person ratio work? I’m confused on if we’re allowed to bring in liquor or just beer? LMAO
You’re allowed one case of beer per person (no glass) and you can bring liquor just transfer it to a plastic container
Hi! great video so much good info. Do they say anything about showering at the campsite because of all the water on the ground? I was thinking of bringing like a kiddie pool. Thank youuuu.
Not at all, the grass does get a little mushy but it’s usually so hot there it dries up quickly 🤣 I’m not sure if kiddie pools are allowed, but I’ve def seen people bring them at Stagecoach
There are bamboo/wooden crates or even like rubber mats you can buy for that specifically. I highly recommend doing so. As far as the kiddie pool. Don’t lol we brought a hot tub one year and it was cool in theory, but was a disaster lol
I am going alone on weekend 1. It’s my first time camping but I have not decided yet on regular or preferred camping. Do you have any thoughts?
Preferred is much closer to venue entrance . Obviously more expensive but definitely the better option. Still gotta get there really early though.
If preferred is still available, I would go with that one… Because if you do regular car camping, if you want a good camping spot that’s close to the entrance to the venue, you have to get there at like 5 AM on Thursday
Preferred no longer available ☹️ I also don’t think I will be able to arrive until the afternoon on Thursday. Is the only downfall to not going early is the farther walk?
@@mariaht2658 yes that’s the only disadvantage! It’s not terrible, you’ll just be a bit further from the entrance to the venue. You’ll be good :)
Ok so I'm flying in from Canada and renting a SUV (there's 2 of us). We were planning to sleep in the car with cracks in the windows and a breathable car cover. We don't have time to buy a tent/canopy and also won't have anything to do with it once the festival is done as we are going straight back to LAX. Is this possible or will everyone be sleeping in tents?
That’s totally fine! Do you have car camping passes? You literally could even sleep next to your car outside on the lawn. Sleeping in the SUV is fine also, it might just get hot in the mornings when the sun comes up but it’s the same deal for tents haha
I bring my suv every year. I lay down the back seats. It leaves more room to pack and once I unload and set up I use the empty space in the truck to create our bed with a lot of blankets and pillows . It also leaves more space for you to set up your area.
@@iamtylerwells yes we do! Also can you can bring a bottle of vodka into the camp area? You said no glass, but if it’s in a plastic bottle that’s ok?
@@michaelb3602 that’s correct, no glass but you can transfer it to a plastic bottle
Thank you so much for this video 💖
Omg I might go camping for weekend 1
Hey Tyler! So I'm not going to Coachella, but I am going to Stagecoach the following weekend.. Am I guaranteed a spot even if we were to show up Friday morning? We are in a crunch and didn't plan ahead at all lol so I'm hoping we can still at least have a spot if we show up friday at like 8am lol. We aren't in any rush to see artists on day 1. I know you said expect to walk 15-20 minutes if you are in a bad spot, which I don't really mind sacrificing, but do you know anyone who's gotten there that late and how it was for them?? We are also taking a full size truck.. Hope to hear back, thanks!
My friend came late on Friday and was just put in a super far camping spot… if you don’t mind that, then you’re good! You def will be able to get a camp spot
See you weekend one!
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Hide all the goodies in the bottom of the ice chest and dump ice over it and (make sure goodies are water proof) and enjoy the best festival ever 🎉🥳 have fun and be safe!
You’re onto something 👀👀
@@iamtylerwells hahahah I’m just so excited to go next week!! I posted your video on my Facebook because I’m tired of explaining myself over and over 🤣 GREAT CONTENT 🎉 very informative 💯
@@aaroncarrillo315 you’re a KING
Weekend 2 gang
I’m car camping, it’s gonna be my first Time, See you at Coachella
OMG J Lo I’m your biggest fan!?
Thank you ❤❤❤
Do they trip on bringing in weed? 😫
just hide it well lmao
@@iamtylerwells last year I checked in on foot but this year I plan on going in with my car to camp so I’m nervous about the dogs 😫 thanks though!
@@alexr3609 the dogs aren’t looking for drugs! they’re sniffing for explosives, you’ll be fine!
My dumbass bought the ticket without thinking about where to stay.. now I have to stay with random people thus year 🤣
Thanks! I wasn't going to bring my camp shower but after hearing how long and gross those shower lines are I'll be doing that. DO they provide somewhere to fill the water?!
Yes! They have water spigots all over the campsite where you can fill up your bags, but as I mentioned in the video, the bags can get super heavy, so it would be best to get a cart where you can wheel it back to your campsite. Carrying that bag in the heat is not fun... lol
Dope Info!
👍🏻 if I ever go (maybe next year)
Well done brother.
True story: raged, blacked by 1pm and woke up to Beyoncé’s fireworks going off 🙂
super helpful, thank u sm
They search the car and check IDs?
They do not check IDs for car camping
@@iamtylerwells should I bring credit card or cash if I want to buy something?
@@ninabella9300 they have Apple Pay literally everywhere but if you want to be safe, bring cash
Put the gooms in a peanut butter sandwich and you will be solid 🤣 can’t wait 🎉🥳🎉
Hell yeah!!