First mom is a DISGRACE. My mother never remarried or even dated after our father drowned. She always feared something like this would happen, and wanted to protect my sister and me. She sacrificed her life for us. She's now deceased but I love her eternally.
-&&& she failed her daughter in the worse way and it's sad because mom allowed his creep as back into the home .. that says a lot about the mother . . 😢😢😢😢
How could that mother sit face to face with her daughter in pain and not cry. I’m crying. And she’s not my daughter. I just want to hug her and say sorry. That’s so strange to me.
She probably went through something herself. She's too stoic, and often that is how a person becomes stoic. They have learned to cover up their pain. That's what I see anyway.
&&& sitting face to face with my mom who allowed a man to r a p e me is a hard pill to swallow .. it's takes a lot of healing and letting go to do that . . . 😢😢😢
&&&& like the other daughter said he was helping out financially with the bills and mom was use to him paying everything .. mom didn't give a damn about her daughter who was r a p e d at all. .😢😢😢
As well as excuses coming out of her mouth. She just keeps saying "I know", but remaining an empty vessel. She's very very cold. What a horrible excuse for a mother 😠😠
The Narcissistic Mother - is a SHOCKING AND STUNNING thing to behold! I would love to have a show on how people have gone through this and came out better on the other side. My story is Jaw Dropping.
So sorry you suffered! It sounds like you have a great success story, what a survivor! Oprah is also a great success story after suffering from sexual abuse growing up. May you always remain so strong and blessed 🙏
There's tons of men who will act like they are so in crazy love with u but they are really looking for a vulnerable woman with little children so tbey can molest them. Don't trust any of them. '
Sadly, many women believe in keeping the family together, despite abuse. And many kids want love & protection from parents that can’t give what they need.
Mom told on herself when she said "he tickled them in the wrong places" SHE KNEW AND SHE WAS DEPENDING ON HIM AND DIDNT WANT HIM TO GO TO JAIL. Happens all the time
Some people just don't cry or show much emotion. I'm like that. It's very rare for me to cry, even through traumatic life events. It doesn't mean she's not sorry for what she has done just because she's not sobbing uncontrollably. I'm thinking she probably feels bad about it every day. She apologized over and over and Dr Phil and Oprah weren't happy with that.
@@joanmary90 Sorry to contradict you: I have studied narcissistic personality disorder and these people have cero empathy, they never feel sorry for others. On shows like these, confronted with the harm they inflict on others they "mimic" crying but trained people CAN TELL
Mom is totally wrong here. Her daughter has every reason to be livid. I don’t believe she didn’t know. Explains why she willingly allowed this monster back in the home and didn’t want police involved.
Agreed. Of course the mother knew. The same wall that allowed her to keep defending herself (and even her ex) throughout this interview is the same wall that she put up each night that the ex got out of bed and visited their daughters in their bedroom. The mother was trying so hard to be seen as the victim and to solicit sympathy in writing into the show, but in reality, she was entirely complicit
I was raped and sodomized by my uncle from2 to 10 …it was only at 10 I nearly bled to death.. my mom thought I started my period but I was intact, he thought if he sodomized me there’d be no proof when my mom found out she took my fathers gun and made a visit to her sisters husband…the rest is not nice…I am now over 60 yrs old…time doesn’t heal all wounds …my life has been hell
Wow! The first mom won’t take accountability and the fact that she doesn’t think she hurt her daughter by choosing their abuser, is INSANE! She abused her too by not protecting her!
Her mother doesn't love herself well enough to protect her children from something I believe happened to her as a child/teenager and just except the fact to keep her mouth and eyes closed to what is happening and she still shows that now.
What is wrong with this woman??!!! How can she let that man back into their home and their lives?!! “He was sorry?????” Really??!! This mother has committed the ultimate betrayal. And my heart breaks for her daughter!
&&&& uu know damn well that mom not sorry with them fake tears .. im with Oprah ii don't feel she is sorry at all. . Dr. Phil trying to force that lady to say she sorry . . . This was to much 😢😢
This is aweful. Can't imagine how Pam and her sister must have felt having to look that monster in the eye again. Mom doesn't seem to want to take responsibility for her complacence. This is not something you sweep under the rug and move on..
This is so sad and relatable. She couldn’t tell her daughter she was worth it. So cold. Dr.Phil told her what to say and she couldn’t. The first story.
if thats what you think and feel, why would any mother be motivated to make it better..? if theres never forgiveness, why even try..? l agree the first mother was clueless abt the damage caused by letting him back in the house, but if the daughter wants a relationship, it has to start by moving forward, away from blame and anger..
Her mother is a flashback to what she endured! I agree. Banish her from your life. I am shocked a therapist hasn't told her that after she tells them about her Mom.
That first mother basically prostituted her two daughters for her own financial security. I would bever speak to her again after that kind of betrayal. Go no contact and find peace.
Are we the only ones that feel this way! She would have been out of my life the moment I was able to leave the home where she brought that monster back to!
she acts clueless.. maybe she is or was.. but she let him back in..! today she wants to be w/the daughter and do things like nothing ever happened.. l dont get it.. she should at least Try..
Looks like she's avoiding feelings or else you turn into a wreck...she's trying to be strong because there is only one parent it sounds like they want her to breakdown... like how many times can she say she was wrong and she is sorry? Hug? Maybe the daughter wants her to share the pain? But if it's never happened to you you can only sympathize. Any follow up?
She doesn't just consider the daughter a problem - but a burden based on how she griped about the cost of the therapist. The mother wants her daughter to forgive her so she can feel better about herself, not because she wants her daughter to heal
I cannot believe that mom said that. He said he was sorry???? U gotta be kidding me. Someone touches my daughters and they are ssooo gone. THeres no sorry in the world that could make me forgive any man. Never ever
I don't understand how anyone could ever let someone back in there house, ever, when they were so cruel and vicious to two young girls and kept it up for years!! I pray that all these women come to the saving grace of Jesus Christ, because He alone can heal!!
There is no coming back from putting your child in a situation KNOWINGLY placing them in the hands of their abuser. There is NO excuse, and there is no forgiveness.
I think the first daughter is still the child that was abused who is still waiting for her mother to save her. Normally, she would'nt want to have a relationship with a monster who gave permission to a devil to abuse her.
My mother was a narcissistic. She verbally and physically abused me until I could take no more and I banned her from my life, at 44 years old, in 2004. She would come home every day and beat me and verbally abuse me. After I banned her from my life, and every year, I'd ask her to go to therapy with me, which was free through the company I worked for, and she would not go and she would also deny that she ever did anything wrong. She left us, when I was 10 years old, and she left me and my father, to raise her 4 year old son, that had severe ADHD. She had already kicked my eldest brother out of the house, when he was 15 years old, prior to leaving us, w/her moving to Texas to live w/one of her boyfriends; probably the best thing that ever happened to me. My father was a wonderful Dad and took care of us the best he could; he passed in 2008, and I miss him so much, each and every day.
Oprah consistently interrupting Dr. Phil while masquerading as an 'expert' is not just annoying, it's also very telling as to her real personality... Oprah was never married, not a mother, not a psychologist, but constantly interrupts and tries to draw attention to Herself, while making snide remarks and very insensitive remarks... Who the real narcissist? IMO, Oprah, and the 1st Mom are pathological! Sure glad Phil got his own show, and now his own network, and got away from phony Oprah. Took many years for me to see her true colors, now I wonder how I could have missed it.
She should tell her she's sorry! Mortified crawling on her knees sorry but she didnt. She turns it around and says her daughter abuses HER!! she's a deranged person
There's no way a man/ dad or step-dad doesn't know it's wrong to be touching their child in private areas or sneaking out of the marital bed during the night knowing his wife is not going to do anything. They are both evil. I am assuming he left her anyway... no one said he was still there.
The first mother is absolutely horrible. She's cold as ice. Her poor daughter(s). I hope the daughter eventually found her peace of mind, and spirit.......
Right away she says he knew I'd get upset if he was tickling them in the wrong way and I'd tell him to stop. Uhhh... so you noticed him being handsy in front of your eyes and still allowed him to sleep in your home with your daughters? But you didn't know.
There is no way in those 8 years she didn't wake up in the middle of the night. To pee or to just have a rough night and toss and turn. Everyone has sleepless nights. It's not logical.
When they did the chair exercise her mother just seemed patronizing. I was happy to see some emotion from her, but I feel like she still doesn't get it.
How we wish, all Mothers were what a Mother should be. But they’re not. Anyone can have BABIES. not every woman CAN BE A “ mother “. 😢sometimes we have to walk away,, forgive, but WALK AWay, even from a parent. Toxic parents.
Mine too. Mine knew all about the abuse and allowed it and she threatened me that if I told anyone she would make me pay for it. She was dependent on him for paying all of the bills and for just everything….. she even stayed after he shot her and then refused medical attention. She was also afraid of him but she still showed all of her support after she found out that he was SA me
How in Any world could a mother Never wake up in EIGHT years and notice that her husband happened to NOT be in her bed??. I am incredulous!!! The facts aren’t right here
The daughter needs to tell her Mother the truth. Personally, I would want my Mother to leave that sick man! For me, leaving him would be proof that she is sorry for that bad decision but is correcting it now.
Pam's mother should have gone to jail too. Even if she didn't know what her husband was doing, after she found out he did it and was arrested she let him come home. That is unforgivable.
She's not saying sorry. Truly heartfelt sorry. She's saying she made a poor decision. And that her daughter abuses HER now. The woman is pure evil the first one
My situation relates so much to the first mother and daughter’s situation. As a daughter, I do forgive her even though I’m still angry. But as a mother of my own daughter, I can’t understand letting a child be abused by someone and letting them back in.
This mother sickens me, I would have him out that door and called the police myself and insisted on prosecution and jail time-mom’s behavior is inexcusable and she should be criminally charged for not protecting her children
I can see this mom not knowing this was going on but then once she found out she let him back into the home???? Something definately not right about this. I would never.
There mom is blinded for the truth of what her husband done to her. Her daughter will not heal for the pain and abandonment of what her mother did. Why did the mother let that discussing man back in her house to harm them more and more. It don't make since.
I don't care how sorry he was he did it! That would be it for me he'd be gone the creep I don't know how the mother could stomache to be around him! A poor decision? A horrifying choice
Ya. If you want to , say, " I accept your apology and forgive you. But you must leave our family FOREVER!!!. AND, as a bonus, you can feel sorry for him all your life AND keep your kids safe.
@19:00 the mother said that she made them suffer more '' than they should have". Isn't that ambiguous ? It sounds like she wanted this to happen, which would explain why she ''attracted'' that type of man.
Mothers should always put their children first no matter what. I'm sick of excuses.
Yup. I raised my 2 kids alone. When they grew up I started dating. ❤😊
First mom is a DISGRACE. My mother never remarried or even dated after our father drowned. She always feared something like this would happen, and wanted to protect my sister and me. She sacrificed her life for us. She's now deceased but I love her eternally.
You were blessed if you had that kind of a mother.
My husband passed 13 yrs ago I'm aware i had the best noone to hold a candle to him in my eyes never interested in finding anyone else
I am happy to read about your experience... My father died when I was 17, and I had to protect myself from what she tried to expose me to.
-&&& she failed her daughter in the worse way and it's sad because mom allowed his creep as back into the home .. that says a lot about the mother . . 😢😢😢😢
How could that mother sit face to face with her daughter in pain and not cry. I’m crying. And she’s not my daughter. I just want to hug her and say sorry. That’s so strange to me.
She probably went through something herself. She's too stoic, and often that is how a person becomes stoic. They have learned to cover up their pain. That's what I see anyway.
&&& sitting face to face with my mom who allowed a man to r a p e me is a hard pill to swallow .. it's takes a lot of healing and letting go to do that . . . 😢😢😢
She kept smiling when the girl was crying, I feel she was not sincere
She’s disgusting
1st mom should have never allowed that man back into the home.
True
&&&& like the other daughter said he was helping out financially with the bills and mom was use to him paying everything .. mom didn't give a damn about her daughter who was r a p e d at all. .😢😢😢
Horrendous! I wouldn’t even be seen in the same room with my mom if that happened to me. So sad
I don't see anything in her eyes but a mother that is empty without pity.
Omg me too!!!! Her eyes are like lacking something!
I wonder if she was conceived from a rape.
As well as excuses coming out of her mouth. She just keeps saying "I know", but remaining an empty vessel. She's very very cold. What a horrible excuse for a mother 😠😠
Narc Mom
I really love this version of Dr Phil.
I wish he was still like this 🙁
My mother was a Very sick Narcissist. It’s taken years to feel validated. All children deserve to be loved unconditionally. 💔
My mother was a malignant narcissist and a sexual predator.Surviving that takes constant vigilance.
The Narcissistic Mother - is a SHOCKING AND STUNNING thing to behold! I would love to have a show on how people have gone through this and came out better on the other side. My story is Jaw Dropping.
So is mine!
and mine....
Same here
I'm sorry for all y'all that went thru abuse.
So sorry you suffered! It sounds like you have a great success story, what a survivor! Oprah is also a great success story after suffering from sexual abuse growing up. May you always remain so strong and blessed 🙏
The first mom was absolutely vile. All she did was make excuses and complain about how she was supposedly the victim. I can't stand people like that.
I know right. Sick.
I agree
That first mother is a joke..
There's tons of men who will act like they are so in crazy love with u but they are really looking for a vulnerable woman with little children so tbey can molest them. Don't trust any of them. '
Sadly, many women believe in keeping the family together, despite abuse. And many kids want love & protection from parents that can’t give what they need.
Mom told on herself when she said "he tickled them in the wrong places" SHE KNEW AND SHE WAS DEPENDING ON HIM AND DIDNT WANT HIM TO GO TO JAIL. Happens all the time
money was likely a motive
He was sorry??? Are you stupid?
100%
Total Freudian slip she KNEW
@@nicoleb4077 👍
Why Isnt this Mother crying her eyes out for her daughter and what she went thru!!!!!
Because she probably is a narcissist - zero empathy
Some people just don't cry or show much emotion. I'm like that. It's very rare for me to cry, even through traumatic life events. It doesn't mean she's not sorry for what she has done just because she's not sobbing uncontrollably. I'm thinking she probably feels bad about it every day. She apologized over and over and Dr Phil and Oprah weren't happy with that.
@@joanmary90 Sorry to contradict you: I have studied narcissistic personality disorder and these people have cero empathy, they never feel sorry for others. On shows like these, confronted with the harm they inflict on others they "mimic" crying but trained people CAN TELL
Mom is totally wrong here. Her daughter has every reason to be livid. I don’t believe she didn’t know. Explains why she willingly allowed this monster back in the home and didn’t want police involved.
Agreed. Of course the mother knew. The same wall that allowed her to keep defending herself (and even her ex) throughout this interview is the same wall that she put up each night that the ex got out of bed and visited their daughters in their bedroom. The mother was trying so hard to be seen as the victim and to solicit sympathy in writing into the show, but in reality, she was entirely complicit
Oprah being a smart as* by ridiculing Dr Phil.
❤
All “mom” can say is “I know “ or “I don’t know”…. Seriously?
I was raped and sodomized by my uncle from2 to 10 …it was only at 10 I nearly bled to death.. my mom thought I started my period but I was intact, he thought if he sodomized me there’d be no proof when my mom found out she took my fathers gun and made a visit to her sisters husband…the rest is not nice…I am now over 60 yrs old…time doesn’t heal all wounds …my life has been hell
Wow! The first mom won’t take accountability and the fact that she doesn’t think she hurt her daughter by choosing their abuser, is INSANE! She abused her too by not protecting her!
We DO throw away people..that hurt little girls!!
You throw people away who are abusive duh
Her mother doesn't love herself well enough to protect her children from something I believe happened to her as a child/teenager and just except the fact to keep her mouth and eyes closed to what is happening and she still shows that now.
Could be, but that is NO EXCUSE!!
WOW! Dr. Phil really has changed..
Time changes everyone!
My thoughts exactly!
The mom acts so cavalier
What is wrong with this woman??!!! How can she let that man back into their home and their lives?!!
“He was sorry?????” Really??!!
This mother has committed the ultimate betrayal. And my heart breaks for her daughter!
same. l got all triggered too.. smh
as a mother.. no way. ld prob be in jail for killing him myself..
1st Mother: “I know I know I know” on repeat
Yep. Then, "I don't know, I don't know, I don't know." 🙄🙄 But she knows how much the psychiatrist cost. Smh
that's when her true self came out.@@Rebecca-hc5ju
Meantime, the truth of the matter is she is clueless.
&&&& mom is full of shxt ... 😢😢
@@jeanag3279 I don't think that mother deserves to be a grandmother. I wouldn't let her near my child after she let that man back in the house.
Dr Phil nailed it!
The 1st mom isn't sorry that she did what she did, she sorry she let him get caught. She KNEW.
&&&& uu know damn well that mom not sorry with them fake tears .. im with Oprah ii don't feel she is sorry at all. . Dr. Phil trying to force that lady to say she sorry . . . This was to much 😢😢
@@MaryjaneLove Did you see her eyes when they told her to mean it? 😳 That lady got some demons in her
I wouldn’t let my Mom anywhere near my kid if she did this to me. Awful, put her disgusting husband before her daughters.
Why did no one ask if finance was a factor in keeping an evil husband?
one of the daughters did
@@angelgirldebbiejothat doesn’t make it okay.
This is aweful. Can't imagine how Pam and her sister must have felt having to look that monster in the eye again. Mom doesn't seem to want to take responsibility for her complacence. This is not something you sweep under the rug and move on..
Sadly, sweeping things under the rug and moving on is exactly what most dysfunctional families do.
This is so sad and relatable. She couldn’t tell her daughter she was worth it. So cold. Dr.Phil told her what to say and she couldn’t. The first story.
The third mother daughter story is inspirational. Im glad they found healing
Why does it fall on the daughter's to forgive and make amends....these mothers should spend their life apologizing.
-&&& that's where I was lost at .. like Dr Phil come on man . . 😂😂
if thats what you think and feel, why would any mother be motivated to make it better..?
if theres never forgiveness, why even try..?
l agree the first mother was clueless abt the damage caused by letting him back in the house, but if the daughter wants a relationship, it has to start by moving forward, away from blame and anger..
You are absolutely right!
@@BEAUTYnIQ Why even try?? Are you kidding me?!! You sound too much like mom #1 in this video. Clueless.
“I guess they wanted to press charges”……per the 1st mom…..IMO some relationships aren’t worth mending.
Miss Oprah is so emotionally intelligent. 💜✊🏿💜💜💜💜
She used to be.
… yes, but she too failed to ask if money was one small reason evil mom kept husband.
I would never let that first mother back in mine or my children’s life. She doesn’t really think she’s wrong and can’t be trusted.
Spot on
Her mother is a flashback to what she endured! I agree. Banish her from your life. I am shocked a therapist hasn't told her that after she tells them about her Mom.
That first mother basically prostituted her two daughters for her own financial security. I would bever speak to her again after that kind of betrayal. Go no contact and find peace.
Are we the only ones that feel this way! She would have been out of my life the moment I was able to leave the home where she brought that monster back to!
Yes... there's no way she didn't know he was out of the bed.
A narcissist
she acts clueless.. maybe she is or was.. but she let him back in..!
today she wants to be w/the daughter and do things like nothing ever happened.. l dont get it..
she should at least Try..
As a mother myself, if I found out someone was doing that to my kids, that "man" wouldn't even make it to jail.
toeachitsown2050 - Exactly 💯🎯
The first mother is cold. She chose her husbands first over her daughters. What a sad place to be.
She is a narcissist, she has no empathy.
Looks like she's avoiding feelings or else you turn into a wreck...she's trying to be strong because there is only one parent it sounds like they want her to breakdown... like how many times can she say she was wrong and she is sorry? Hug? Maybe the daughter wants her to share the pain? But if it's never happened to you you can only sympathize. Any follow up?
@@becbecbecca the mother is a narcissist and lacks empathy. She does not feel her pain.
Probably a narcissist
Finally a good episode
As a mother, I sensed every time my daughter was off, no matter how minor.
Ya same here I have 4 children and even now i know when there is something wrong
That Mother does not love the daughter. She considers the daughter a problem. She does not like like the emotional daughter. So sad.
She doesn't just consider the daughter a problem - but a burden based on how she griped about the cost of the therapist. The mother wants her daughter to forgive her so she can feel better about herself, not because she wants her daughter to heal
That is a narcissistic mother
2nd momma gave everything the first daughter needed to hear 😔 Oprah was right it wasn’t happening that day
My heart breaks for the daughter
Just like my mother, me me me me me
Narcissists love no one except themselves
I cannot believe that mom said that. He said he was sorry???? U gotta be kidding me. Someone touches my daughters and they are ssooo gone. THeres no sorry in the world that could make me forgive any man. Never ever
I don't understand how anyone could ever let someone back in there house, ever, when they were so cruel and vicious to two young girls and kept it up for years!! I pray that all these women come to the saving grace of Jesus Christ, because He alone can heal!!
Good for you Oprah. Let mom have it
The daughters are all by gorgeous. Every single one of them. STUNNING
"I'm a deep sleeper!" How NOT convincing.
She knows she just didn't want to lose that man
Many moms have that wall of fakeness and blocked emotions. Mine included. I refuse to engage with it at all.
Excellent description . . . wall of fakeness and blocked emotions.
Phil trying to make a narcissist have empathy. I had to laugh when Oprah burst out saying it ain't going to happen.
Absolutely right. Love makes no sense to her
The first mom couldn't say I love you, I'm sorry, I did the wrong thing. Smh. She absolutely would not say out loud, I made a bad choice.
She has too much pride to admit what she did was wrong.
There is no coming back from putting your child in a situation KNOWINGLY placing them in the hands of their abuser. There is NO excuse, and there is no forgiveness.
I never brought men around my children...i protected them by spending a lot of lonely nights. I have no regrets
pepsiwarren2957 - I did as well. ❤️🫂
Love the old school talk TV. BAck in the day when young folks had the attention span to watch full hour episodes of anything!
I think the first daughter is still the child that was abused who is still waiting for her mother to save her. Normally, she would'nt want to have a relationship with a monster who gave permission to a devil to abuse her.
I could never forgive my mother for letting him back in.
She did pick the man over her kids
Truth!!!
My mother was a narcissistic. She verbally and physically abused me until I could take no more and I banned her from my life, at 44 years old, in 2004. She would come home every day and beat me and verbally abuse me. After I banned her from my life, and every year, I'd ask her to go to therapy with me, which was free through the company I worked for, and she would not go and she would also deny that she ever did anything wrong. She left us, when I was 10 years old, and she left me and my father, to raise her 4 year old son, that had severe ADHD. She had already kicked my eldest brother out of the house, when he was 15 years old, prior to leaving us, w/her moving to Texas to live w/one of her boyfriends; probably the best thing that ever happened to me. My father was a wonderful Dad and took care of us the best he could; he passed in 2008, and I miss him so much, each and every day.
Oh, hell, NO!! There's absolutely no way I would consider picking sides with an abuser of my children..
Wow, Oprah is such a better psychologist than the TV dr.
First mom is ignoring her surroundings. She's as sick as the abuser
Probably a narcissist
I think Oprah chipping in to try and end the segment drives Dr Phil up the wall...
I don't blame him!!
Oprah consistently interrupting Dr. Phil while masquerading as an 'expert' is not just annoying, it's also very telling as to her real personality...
Oprah was never married, not a mother, not a psychologist, but constantly interrupts and tries to draw attention to Herself, while making snide remarks and very insensitive remarks... Who the real narcissist? IMO, Oprah, and the 1st Mom are pathological!
Sure glad Phil got his own show, and now his own network, and got away from phony Oprah.
Took many years for me to see her true colors, now I wonder how I could have missed it.
Mothers can just be terrible
Mother should tell her daughter I love you
It wouldn't make any difference if she didn't mean it because the daughter would see right through it.
I'm not sure she knows what true selfless love is!!!!
She should tell her she's sorry! Mortified crawling on her knees sorry but she didnt. She turns it around and says her daughter abuses HER!! she's a deranged person
Very good program ! Valuable I would think to a lot of people. 😊😊😊
Even after listening to Dr. Phil & Oprah, the first mother doesn't get it. She is like a robot, no empathy. I feel for these daughters😢
Parents should be taught the boundaries they have towards their Children .
Boundaries aren't going to make any difference with a child molester.
There's no way a man/ dad or step-dad doesn't know it's wrong to be touching their child in private areas or sneaking out of the marital bed during the night knowing his wife is not going to do anything. They are both evil. I am assuming he left her anyway... no one said he was still there.
@@jeanag3279 for awareness at least 🤔
@@zohraimam They know what they're doing is wrong. If they didn't know any better, they would do it in the open . . . which NEVER happens.
@@jeanag3279 lack of awareness is Main reasons.
That Mother wanted the man as a partner to live with and to pay the bills. The Mother did not care about the daughters.
Truth!!!
Her mother knew.
Of course she did...
She doesn’t love her daughters at all
The two daughters in the first clip are absolutely stunning. Not what the clip is about but I just wanted to say that.
The first mother is absolutely horrible. She's cold as ice. Her poor daughter(s). I hope the daughter eventually found her peace of mind, and spirit.......
Get rid of that man. And show your children love ❤️
Right away she says he knew I'd get upset if he was tickling them in the wrong way and I'd tell him to stop. Uhhh... so you noticed him being handsy in front of your eyes and still allowed him to sleep in your home with your daughters? But you didn't know.
And she swore on her father's grave she didn't absolutely shocking 🙄
Exactly!!!
There is no way in those 8 years she didn't wake up in the middle of the night. To pee or to just have a rough night and toss and turn. Everyone has sleepless nights. It's not logical.
Dr. Phil,this Vile person is Not Capable of Understanding or Giving the Love that her Daughters are looking for
When they did the chair exercise her mother just seemed patronizing. I was happy to see some emotion from her, but I feel like she still doesn't get it.
100%
She absolutely seemed patronizing . . . and she still doesn't get it.
Was the 1st mom still married when this aired?
Dying to know.
If he was a murderer would you have let him back,to me it's the same thing!!!!!😢
How we wish, all Mothers were what a Mother should be. But they’re not. Anyone can have BABIES. not every woman CAN BE A “ mother “. 😢sometimes we have to walk away,, forgive, but WALK AWay, even from a parent. Toxic parents.
This was totally my mother!!
😢
This is my mother as well. Cold cold cold. The ultimate ice Queen.
Mine too. Mine knew all about the abuse and allowed it and she threatened me that if I told anyone she would make me pay for it. She was dependent on him for paying all of the bills and for just everything….. she even stayed after he shot her and then refused medical attention. She was also afraid of him but she still showed all of her support after she found out that he was SA me
Same here
How in Any world could a mother Never wake up in EIGHT years and notice that her husband happened to NOT be in her bed??. I am incredulous!!!
The facts aren’t right here
Not believable! She knows what she did but knows we will think she's evil if she admits she knew.
Stop making excuses for him. I can't believe he got 6 years probation.
I know and that is totally disgusting!!
I love you Oprah!
The daughter needs to tell her Mother the truth. Personally, I would want my Mother to leave that sick man! For me, leaving him would be proof that she is sorry for that bad decision but is correcting it now.
Pam's mother should have gone to jail too. Even if she didn't know what her husband was doing, after she found out he did it and was arrested she let him come home. That is unforgivable.
It’s entirely possible the mother didn’t know but letting the stepdad come home is horrible
That kills me when she says, I guess I should have screamed out but I didn’t … I just wanted to reach through the scream and hug her
The mother is only saying what she thinks they want to hear. Shame on her.
Exactly!!!
She's not saying sorry. Truly heartfelt sorry. She's saying she made a poor decision. And that her daughter abuses HER now. The woman is pure evil the first one
I see this Mother,,, not really caring. Empty. 😢
My situation relates so much to the first mother and daughter’s situation. As a daughter, I do forgive her even though I’m still angry. But as a mother of my own daughter, I can’t understand letting a child be abused by someone and letting them back in.
You are right doctor phil
This mother sickens me, I would have him out that door and called the police myself and insisted on prosecution and jail time-mom’s behavior is inexcusable and she should be criminally charged for not protecting her children
I can see this mom not knowing this was going on but then once she found out she let him back into the home???? Something definately not right about this. I would never.
First mom … you knew! And when everything was out … you let him BACKKK!!!
She’s too defensive. She doesn’t get it.
Lol lol omg dr phil is so young here lol. I have always loved him hes a great man.
There mom is blinded for the truth of what her husband done to her. Her daughter will not heal for the pain and abandonment of what her mother did. Why did the mother let that discussing man back in her house to harm them more and more. It don't make since.
The Mother is very selfish ... If it was me ... I would be superrrr supeeerrr angryyyy
The broken woman who let him back in is still broken - Oprah is right .
Broken is a word I would NOT use, EVIL is!!
I don't care how sorry he was he did it! That would be it for me he'd be gone the creep I don't know how the mother could stomache to be around him! A poor decision? A horrifying choice
Ya. If you want to , say, " I accept your apology and forgive you. But you must leave our family FOREVER!!!. AND, as a bonus, you can feel sorry for him all your life AND keep your kids safe.
@19:00 the mother said that she made them suffer more '' than they should have". Isn't that ambiguous ? It sounds like she wanted this to happen, which would explain why she ''attracted'' that type of man.
How could the court let that predator back in the house?
If you do that in my country, they will take the kids away and put them in a foster home.
This "mother" is in total denial. Nobody can touch a child... nobody. It is the worst crime of all.
Id love to hear an update on these families now.