Thanks to Ali Humaydan for bringing the idea to my attention! One more item off my list, and I didn't kill the microwave oven in the process either! Nguyen - Nguyen! (look up the pronunciation)
You need an older microwave for the real magic. Those new ovens have power limiters to prevent a high SWR situation from damaging the magnetron. When it detects a high SWR it turns the TXP down from 1200 watts to like 500 watts. Also metal that is at length of any of the wavelengths sweet spots (1/4, 1/2 wave etc.) and can hold the RF power in watts then you wont get much and this is because the metal is considered a tuned antenna and the SWR will not drive up much. What you should have done was put a CD in there
The instructions for a microwave my parents purchaced recently explicetly states that metal is okay as long as it doesn't come into contact with the sides.
Try it with an older oven. Some modern ovens have protection for the magnetron against running the thing empty. Super fancy (expensive) ovens are starting to move towards solid state RF amplifiers, and those too have gain controls to protect the PA's when there's hardly any load (empty) or too much load (arcs), and that power control stuff has been in some ovens for a while. Guess the simple way to find out is look at how much power it's drawing from the mains.
The first microwave oven my family had a couple of decades ago had a metal rack in it. It was supported by plastic hooks that were attracted to the inside of the oven. That oven is the reason I always wondered about this "you can't put metal in a microwave" claim.
He should also try different manufacturers of cutlery. A lot of forks have high content of non ferrous metals, I'd imagine a high nickel alloy spoon will arc a lot less than a high quality stainless steel one.
FWIW, if you read the manual for any modern microwave, they actually say that small amounts of metal are not a problem - they shield the magnetron against dangerous levels of feedback. Some even suggest using metal for cooking purposes to shield certain parts of food. I remember reading this in the manual for my first microwave oven, which I got in 1994. They do, however, warn you to not use dishes with silver trim. Not because it's dangerous but because if any arcing occurs, it can ruin the finish of the metal. I do wonder, however, if this was a more serious problem in older microwaves. Maybe a unit from the 80's might have less shielding and may behave differently.
That’s weird because I remember microwaves 20-30 years ago going crazy with arcs when you forgot a spoon in the bowl or didn’t take all the foil off whatever you put in there maybe they somehow improved them.
@@Jus4yaI came to this video because I put some food in my microwave and forgot I left my spoon in the soup but when I came back I seen it was in there and asked my brother if it was making loud spark sounds he said no and my food was warm lol
I mean... you clearly demonstrated that if the metal touches the side of the microwave it can arc which can damage your microwave which is a good enough reason not to put metal in there at least on purpose still probably safer than putting half a grape in there though
Every year my wife brings out the Christmas dinner plates with gold designs on them and every year I arc them out forgetting. It’s a Christmas tradition!
My wife only uses the gold designed plates because she's of the belief that you shouldn't be afraid to use things. Well, none of the plates have gold on them anymore, but my poptarts are toasty!
@@jnevercast "...she's of the belief that you shouldn't be afraid to use things." My wife, EXACTLY. And that, dear friends, is why we can't have nice things. They're all BRoKeN!
The dangers of putting a fork into a toaster is quite dependent on where on the live element your metal object touches. Each element is a big long coil of wire that snakes through the toaster. One end of the element is at 110/220V and the other end is at zero volts. So, for example, on a 110V toaster 50% of the exposed heater wire is under 55V (but seriously, don't stick things in running toasters, it's still pretty dangerous)
Missing The days where I used to laugh my head off watching his vedios..... these days, his vedios are very educative but sadly not as funny as they used to be....
When I was stationed in Iraq, one of our local national interpreters would heat up cans of soup in the microwave. One day I caught him, and told him you're not supposed to do that. He said he'dbeen doing it for months lol. I guess there was really nothing wrong with it now
@@CanadianBOT99 if you are near it you will hear and see the can bulging under pressure before it goes thermonucler... don't ask how i knoe... and yes i'd not eat that stuff anymore anyways since nearly all cans have a plastic coating on the inside (that white liner on the inside isn't metal) to prevent the can from oxydizing on the inside.
As an EE myself, I have still wondered why a steel rack was ok. I could not reconcile it in my mind. Loved your presentation. Very funny and entertaining. Thanks.
The steel rack wasn't tested in this video - you only saw a picture of it. I'm pretty sure that the rack belongs to an infrared convection oven (as seen on TV). I used to have one, it has nothing to do with microwaves. And yes, I would expect it to produce spectacular sparks, similar to a golden trim around a plate.
Thats for the "microwaves" that you see in resaraunts. Nothing rotates, they don't create heat spots and you put foil in there all the time. All they have in common with microwaves is they heat up food in seconds and they are small.
@@ruslankadylak2999well, you're wrong on both counts. There are some microwave ovens that come with metal racks in them. But you don't have to take my word for it - just Google it
The arcing in the microwave is similar to a lightning storm passing a city. I forget all the electromagnetic concepts of that apply but the air isn't isn't a perfectly homogeneous fluid(fractional differences in humidity) so path of least resistance isn't visible but like op was demonstrating certain shapes like pointy things like a radio tower have a higher likelihood of attracting an arc of electromagnetic energy. Even in the sealed environment of the microwave, the energies put into the objects start creating convection currents creating different resistances in the fluid (air)
So, in a microwave oven we have a magnetron (emitter of microwave energy). The food is the “load”, as the frequency is best to heat water molecules. Putting metal in (as far as I am concerned) simply provides a path of less resistance and puts a greater stress on the magnetron.
As a teen, I bought a microwave for testing purposes. The best I found: straighten a paperclip, then bend it into a near circle, so there's a small gap between the tips. It started fountaining golden sparks, like a firework, and when the microwave turned off, the clip ends looked melted, and the gap had increased significantly, haha.
I have bridged the gap in burnt out tungsten bulbs with plasma when I was a teen! (without microwaves) It even (slowly) melted the tungsten too! But the bulb worked fine for at least a few minutes. The funny part was that the arc was so low power, that is was invisible near the working tungsten filament, so it looked like the bulb was working in open circuit. I imagine the paperclip was melting and burning very fast at those arc temperatures.
You can do the same trick by cutting a grape almost completely in half, only leaving a thin piece of skin connecting the two halves. Place it in the microwave with the open side up, and watch the magic
many frozen foods, have metal in the "microwave safe" packaging, its there to purposely draw current/heat to it, instead of other places, and acts like a heatsink, and a reflector to direct the microwaves, that actually brows and crisps up your food as it cooks, instead of it just having that standard rubber texture of microwaved food.
lol samething happened to me. Was literally instant arcing all around the edge. I think its cuz my microwave is older, Electroboom’s microwave seems really new. Microwaves must have evolved
@@Ghastly_Derp I think it’s a combination of older designs and foods being cooked that causes danger, because the energy also arcs through the food, causing the bad
we had to make sure not to put the plates or cups with gold leaf rims, because it would arc and destroy the leaf. We were not too careful, however, and eventually they had no leafing left lol
A lot of the new digital microwaves have a grill option and they are metal resistant, try on the old microwaves to put some metal and you will see the real danger
Put a CD in there (can be junky old CD-R). They're the best for microwave arcs. You'll get a quick lightning show and the metal layer is destroyed. Also lets you see lots of arcs paths in the metal layer. I did this to tons of discs in college. 🙂
I can't even remember how many AOL CD's I did this with when I was younger! Just don't leave them in more than a few seconds. The burning plastic stinks.
Bro you just unlocked a memory I forgot about lol I could of swore “is it a good idea to microwave that?” Was a fever dream lol “bad smoke, don’t breath that in!” A company would be sued to shit now of days doing that lol
You should check out Photonicinduction. He's the king of doing stupid things with electricity intelligently. Not that electroboom isn't a great channel too. There's lots of good channels.
9:58 "I made a piece of... sheet" LOL :-D As a non-native English speaker, I can relate to the conscious efforts to pronounce some words very carefully, emphasizing them a lot :-D
"Hey hun, where's your father?" "Hey Mom, well he's micro-" "Microwaving spoons again??" "Yep" "I thought we were past this. So, how long has he bee-" "About 4 hours" "Oh jesus christ"
"HAHHA FINALLY" - One of my unintended experiments: Many moons ago, with a group of friends we went to a friend of ours cottage. We were many, so to heat up the lunch for all of us (in the microwave), we needed to use also the fancy plates, I got one of those. I thought that the thin, golden decoration rim was some sort of ceramic with some golden-effect paint on it. Then, as soon as I started the microwave, it started to spark on the inside (Ofc I immediately stopped the microvawe). It turned out, that rim was actual gold. Which still has burn marks on it and I hope that my friend's aunt will never find out. Huh. Woopsies. But the food was good (and warm, warmed up in a different plate).
My microwave actually instructs me to put a spoon in any glass or cup of liquid I want to heat up. It helps to dissipate heat to prevent liquids from boiling or exploding. Always blew the mind of anyone I told about this. They always believed it couldn't be a real microwave oven, then.
Finally. I was beginning to think I am crazy. I clearly remember that we had to put a metal spoon into our cups when heating liquids when I was a kid and Microwave ovens were kinda new. Whenever I tell this story, they are all claiming that I must be misremembering, "Metal = Boom, everyone knows that" :) :)
Doesn't have to be a metal spoon. It could be a chopstick. You're just giving the fluid something with nucleation points in it so you don't end up with a container of superheated liquid that will vaporize as soon as it is disturbed. It happens most easily with smooth glass containers with narrow necks.
It's to provide a nucleation site so the water doesn't superheat and then flash to steam. (aka explode) You do NOT want that to happen while removing it from the oven. I use a chopstick if I'm boiling water in a microwave.
Actually, I’m thinking that maybe over the years they have improved the technology of microwaves. Because I can remember as a child accidentally leaving my spoons/forks in my bowl and seeing arcs. Also I recall we had plates with gold edging and that used to arc too. So maybe you need to get hold of a really old microwave oven?
@@gianluccasimao same. Also when my brother overlooked using a stainless bowl for doing popcorn. Mind you the popcorn burnt was on the surface and nos inmediatley on the bowl
My parents had plates with gold edges, but the microwave partially destroyed the gold paint, so it is no longer an antenna. Every plate was only sparking once or twice, then no more. Problem solved itself!
Ok so let’s like the shit out of this so we can get Khadi to test an old microwave form the 90s or something. And I’d love to know why the old ones did it and the new ones don’t.
you are using a microwave that advertises it's anti-arcing technology with a logo right on the door (cyclonic inverters minimize arcing and smooth the standing waves you mentioned)
I recall sticky all kinds of shit in microwaves for fun since the seventies. I always got metal objects to arc of weird shit. The slinky was fun. Gallium, cool.
@Honest Addict Post Ban 3 Having practical examples of what not to do can be very informative if you're not short sighted. You and I watching these videos are not the same thing.
I was wondering why he was having so much trouble getting arcs when I immediately got them when I forgot once a fork mixed with the food and another time a plate with a golden rim. It's not safe at all because the metal gets hot as hell and doesn't cool down super quickly as aluminum foil does.
I've also had a lot of trouble making this work reliably. I've tried lots of antenna designs and materials. It's tough to get the arc to form right where you want it. If you could make it work in a specific spot you could make a microwave arc furnace.
you can place a bar of chocolate elevated without spinning and after a while, not let it totally melt, you ll be able to pinpoint geographically where the waves are in your microwave oven. Based on that you can place the antennas on the "high" points and get some arcs
I would say a great demonstration of newer technology. An old school microwave would've lit up like a Christmas tree with just the spoon. Been there done that.
@Peter Evans I remember seeing them on TV testing a microwave, the guy giving the tour was having so much fun. Takes a bunch of foil, stuffs it into the microwave, turns it on for several minutes, and sees what happens. Later goes to the shooting range, loads the test rifle, and shoots some ballistic glass to see if it works. Im a huge fan of anything UL listed, especially because of that. And, you know, lower risk of the appliance burning the house down.
Had one of those metal wire stands that broke.. I repaired it with a nice stainless TIG welding rod and tried using it in the microwave. I learned you can not do that. The sparks from that single small welding repair created a massive lightshow. I guessed the metal is coated with something that reflects the microwaves, but the welding was not protected.
What you need is just a voltage differential for arcing to occur. The best way is to make a loop of metal with a gap in it. It'll produce alternating current in the loop so the ends will arc to one another.
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 Oh yeah, I've destroyed plates like that, then hidden them underneath all the other plates in the hopes nobody sees the damaged ones. 😂
My favorite was to put a CD or DVD in there, great patterns as it burns through the foil. I also ruined several antique plates with gold edging. I'd be curious to see what happens with loops of metal.
It's happened to me twice. Once when I put a foil-wrapped burger in the microwave as a kid, and again when the thermometer needle got dirty in my current microwave. Watching this, it may have been touching the wall. It's a 1400-watt from 1982. Came with a metal rack and an internal meat thermometer from the factory. It's a wonderful machine. Got it for 25 bucks. Even had the manual. My previous microwave was 500 watts, so I've learned a few lessons the hard way. Like the Boiled Egg Grenade. I did it on purpose, but with almost triple the power, it goes from a giggle-worthy "poof" to a literal explosive.
@@ootdega I just had to replace a microwave rack because grease got trapped inside one of the rubber feet which someone caused arcing there. it was super violent, and the foot exploded with tons of arcing. it's only an 1100 watt oven though from the 90's
came here to say this. i have plates with either white gold inlay or silver (not sure which) and they sparked when i put them in the microwave. i have noticed tho, that they sparked somewhat after accidentally putting them in there, but if you keep doing it, they eventually stop sparking and no longer spark.
Yeah i used to do this too, its awesome. The best way to do it is to put a small disposable plastic cup upside in the microwave then put the cd ontop of it shinyside up. The cd looks like one of those plasma discs with little bolts of electricity crackling all over it and shooting sparks out of the edges.
Interesting. CDs are made of a phase-change material that is supposed to melt and change between amorphous and crystalline states when blasted with optical beams... when heated enough, it probably goes full amorphous and expands, cracks, and the cracks create new sharp edges, that make arcs?
this is insane. every single time I accidentally left silverware in there as a kid, it went insane and make tons of smoke. maybe microwaves were less safe in the early 90s? I still remember I heated a bowl of soup with a spoon still in it, and the whole room was lit up blue by the plasma and I panicked and unplugged it. The microwave was made 1990-92
@@robsumn56 Any amount of foil I put in my crappy 50 dollar microwave I got a few years ago from home depot sparks up like crazy. I tried it a couple times after watching this. A small amount all by itself in any shape makes plasma like crazy and is also really loud.
Yeah the old microwave my parents had when I was a kid still had the rotary dial timer on it made a pretty awesome lightshow when I forgot a spoon in some soup. Never made that mistake again. Must be some safety features in microwaves now or something.
@@MohammedAli-mb6ozIt literally did.. Industrial Microwaves are a thing now, and you can put metals in it(certain metals) if the metal doesnt touch the edge of the microwave
I never had any issues making sparks in the microwave as a kid. I was always doing it accidentally. One thing I remember was butter packaging. Foil lined paper. Really exciting 😀
Yep. The real fun began when the melted butter soaked the paper and it burned like candle. Cleaning the brown crisp and soot from the inside wasn't tho 🤣
I'll leave spoons in when reheating soup. I only had arcing once from a fork that was beside some food. And the classic "frozen bag of bread with a metal tie" that is forgotten about. That quickly arcs.
His way of teaching is a lot more memorable and fun than the boring dry instruction you receive in classes. Maybe you can ask your instructor to show some of his videos in class to demonstrate things. Or you might be able to recreate one of his more tame experiments in class
Put a CD or DVD in it. It will arc in a tree pattern. I used to do that to make sure information was destroyed when discarding data CDs. You only need a few seconds for it to arc.
When I watch this I imagine Mehdi's wife looking around the house for her microwave oven and at the end of the day asking Mehdi what he did that day. "You did what to my microwave oven?!"
I remember once when I was a kid I wanted to heat up my tea and I left a teaspoon inside the mug. The microwave lit up like a christmas tree. So, does that mean the more modern ovens have some kind of protection?
See, my theory is that when the metal is inside another material, like liquids or maybe soup, or any kind of food, the food/drinks itself act as some sort of conductor. I wish his experiment brought these factors into play because I’ve never found myself wanting to only warm up my utensils 😅 BUT I have accidentally left utensils inside various dishes and also have kids who tend to not think things like this through thoroughly. I would like to see this experiment again with different types of variables, and also would like for him to reign in more on why the utensil arcs when it touches the side of the microwave. I have intuition on it obviously but would just love to see the experiment fully thorough without having to sacrifice my own family oven to do so 😅
@@bigkirbyhj666 I'm not sure, but I know they don't have the typical large transformer in them, so that suggests they may actually be inverters. (As in, switch mode power supply on some level at least)
actually our ex microwave showed a picture to put spoon inside cup when warming a drink and not without. However have had electrical discharges several times with metal- but with a plastic cover (for splatter) its fine
I would've liked to see you explore a bit with springs / coils. Since some fuckery seemed to go on with the spring of a clip you used to hold stuff up.
So it's relatively safe to put metal utensils in the microwave, but one things that you probably still shouldn't put into a microwave is plates with gold or silver detailing. That feels like an important part of the "no metal in the microwave" rule.
That one is probably the worst case scenario. Regular spoons or such do absolutely nothing. I've heard some people even recommend putting a spoon into a glass of water because it might prevent the water from superheating itself, which can then suddenly burst into steam once you move the glass. But obviously you shouldn't heat up liquids to that degree in a microwave anyway. The worst stuff that usually happens to me is puttng some kind of scrambled egg in there and some of the inside hitting a high power spot, getting super heated and exploding egg all over the inside of the microwave lol.
My grandad gave me some plates with gold around the rim, he's got dementia so tries to upsell everything. I wasn't sure whether it was actually a metal rather than just some paint, until I tried to put it in the microwave. Within one second the entire rim of the plate sparked up, microwave was turned off immediately. I guess it is real gold!
@@LeutnantJoker Gold- or silver-detailed cutlery isn't that uncommon, tbf. Wouldn't call it a "worst case" scenario (if by "worst case" you meant it'd happen very, very rarely)
1:52 Hey mehdi, they use those metal trays in microwave ovens when they're using either grill or convection settings. In those cases, the food or whatever is heated by a coil, not microwaves. That's why it's safe. It's still not recommended to use those trays while using the microwave settings though.
When you have oven with microwave there are actually two trays: metal one for oven and ceramic one for microwave, there are also two sets of racks but I think both are metal but with different sizing. Both in Sasmung one and Siemens that I have.
On some microwaves, there’s a recommendation to leave a spoon in any cups of liquid (tea, water etc) because without it, water can become superheated and boil explosively when you move the glass, spraying people with boiling water. The spoon (or chopstick, other object) agitates the water and starts the boiling process, so it doesn’t spray. Just don’t let the metal touch the sides or glass!
@@shadowkyber2510 That's the thing- until the water is disturbed it won't boil! Search for "superheated water microwave", there's plenty of videos about it
@@jamesmcilvenny2294 that's really cool. It reminds me of car coolent, it gets hotter than boiling point but because it's preserised it can't boil, that is until someone opens it and gets sprayed with extremly hot liquid
@@shadowkyber2510 Those are actually two slightly different phenomena, though related, phenomena having to do with pressure. In essence, for water to boil it needs to overcame the surrounding pressure to change from liquid to gas. If the water is restricted in it's space, then it can't expand and continues to increase in temperature until its internal pressure ("desire to vaporize") exceeds the external pressure which keeps it from boiling. In the car, the cooling system is closed, there is nowhere for the fluid to expand, so it can't boil. Once the cap on the system is opened, the fluid has somewhere to expand into and immediately starts to boil (given its heated enough). This is actually similar to what happened e.g. at the Chernobyl disaster. The water in the reactor was heated by the fission but, as the reactor was a closed system, the water couldn't expand into gas. Once the internal pressure rose far enough, it cracked open the steel lid of the reactor and, now open, could immediately expand, resulting in the explosion. Now, in the microwave with superheated water, the thing that keeps the water in an open container from boiling is actually the surface tension of the water itself. The surface tension doesn't have unlimited strength, so there is a rather small window of "water wants to boil but is kept in check by surface tension" and "water is hot enough that internal pressure overcomes surface tension". Think of a balloon you want to inflate. That also only works if the surface of the water is not disturbed in any other way. That's why it's recommended to put something like a stirring stick (non-metal, just in case) in the water, as it already breaks the surface. Just having very slight imperfections in the surface of the container (cup, etc.) is usually also already enough. However, if you're unfortunate enough and you accidentally superheat the water in the microwave, then it may happen that you touching the cup and disturbing the water inside ever so slightly is what breaks the surface tension. And suddenly, all the internal pressure gets released and you end up with hot water in your face :/ (Oh and one more thing: A system under pressure is spelled "pressurized" )
@@Magrior thanks, that's very informative. It's spelt pressurised for me so I wasn't too off. The problems that I say "a" instead of "er" and "ur" most the time so I say presh-a-rised and then to spell it I just guess out of the 3. And on top of that there's double letters too so I have no chance
@@ornessarhithfaeron3576 Maybe, but I couldn't find any from Steve. And yes, those grapes formed plasma, through an arc. It's what usually happens in an arc, especially those big ones at power plants.
Experimented quite a bit myself, but I used a really old one with high power. Worked like a charm to make big arcs or plasma. I won't go into detail but all I can say, steel wool in the right setup or open flames work the best. (Don't do that..) Got so much arcing that I ended up with molten metal puddles and the like. And in other runs could sustain a plasma ball for some time that I trapped under a glass, until the glass exploded that is. xD
Guessing the inverter design signal is way different than the older CW way design effects. I know with lasers and other electromagnetic designs the effects of the signal through air or media is different. I recall the CW's heat up way more the air and other medium compared to pulse train methods.
@@jafinch78 Could be, I am not sure. Idk if they really changed anything fundamentally over the years. I always thought they would just always use the inexpensive commercial continuous wave magnetron. My old oven surely had one like this, either it was 100% on or completely off. You could just set how long it should wait in-between. It even had a circuit diagram on the back which was very simple. But the simple things don't break so easily. I even tried to melt glass or put burning sparklers in it. It never died on me, until I took it apart for the components. xD
When I was a kid, I accidently put a bowl covered with aluminium foil to heat in the microwave, and saw a ton of sparks and pops. Like literally 20 times more than in your entire video. I got the slippers that day, but yeah, never put metal anywhere near that death contraption ever again...
1:55 AFAIK those metal stands are only for ovens with grill function, since the heaters are typically on top surface so it's better to raise the plate, and manual states that you can't use the stand if you are using just microwaves or combined grill+microwave.
Right, my microwave oven with grill function came with one. According to its own user's manual, it's only used for grilling. That being said, it also recommends using both grill and the microwave at once for grilling, meaning it's still the same thing. The manual also recommends the usage of aluminium foil to cover many food items for optimal cooking.
yes.it is for grill function use only.. and not to be used in combi mode(grill+mwave). this is to reduce risk of arcing. electroboom only tested it within 30 sec, in normal use,we usually use it more than that depending on what meal,drinks that we are cooking/heating. if I were u,I don't take chances
My family had once a microwave that recommended putting a spoon in a drink or soup to warm up. We found it odd but the hot choco did warm up better with the spoon in it.
This was very fascinating to watch. I just recently repaired my ex-wife's microwave because one of my daughters had a boyfriend who stuck an opened can of SpaghettiOs in the microwave. The arcing scorched the paint around the magnetron and ate a hole in the shield-cap on the tip of the magnetron. I had to scrape away the flakes of scorched paint around the magnetron, repaint the damage with enamel spray paint, and install a new magnetron and a new beam cover. Good as new now. I wish I could show you a photo of the magnetron in the comments.
Curious if the design of microwave ovens has changed much from back in the 70s? Specific wavelengths? Shielding? Duty cycle? Different layout of whatever is doing the emitting resulting in different hot/cold spots?
More efficient power supplies/components, more safety features/safer power circuits (70's era stuff, like some cheap Chinese stuff, wasn't exactly up to modern safety standards). Modern Microwaves are often more powerful than the old ones as well presumably due to the better efficiency but also due to better materials in general. Frequency wise there are 2 standards 900MHz and 2.4GHz, pretty much everything uses the latter and as far as I know always has. 2.4 GHz is more power efficient since higher frequencies/shorter wavelengths have more power per photon or wave (depending on which theory you follow).
@@grn1 2.4 GHz? That's in the same frequency range as Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, isn't it? Good thing they're shielded to the outside, otherwise they would interfere heavily with Wi-Fi (apart from the newer standards that use 5 /6 GHz) or Bluetooth, I suppose.
@@uNiels_Heart I can confirm that my Bluetooth Headset loses about a half to a meter (1.6 to 3 feet in freedom units) of range when the microwave is turned on, but that might just be general EM interference.
@@DanyalArcadio if you use microwaves with a proper MOT you could burn your house down if you don't care about the plasma, those little transformers run real close to their limit
Pas du tout, j'irai toujours pas foutre du métal dans un micro-onde mais au moins, je sais maintenant que si un jour j'oublie une fourchette dedans, je n'aurais pas du shrapnell volant partout.
@@OldBaldDad The whole surface is microscopically sharp, and as the foil arcs away it creates more sharp points. it's the same as thin metallic leaf or other thin metals that can't take the current like the aluminum foil can.
@@NillKitty I suppose it is microscopically sharp, but the pits and lands on a CD are way too small to affect microwaves. I suspect it has more to do with the thickness of the metal layer. It wouldn't take much energy to start burning it away.
Was not the first air plane food used in WW2 a microwave / TV dinner thing, but the plates were made of metal, even early TV dinners were made on metal plates
When it was cold I put some nutella in the microwave so I could spread it without teraing the bread, but I didn't see it had one of those anti-theft metal barcodes. It caught fire seconds after microwaving it, there was burnt plastic everywhere... Don't worry, nutella was safe and unharmed, luckily
Once, I woke up the day after saint pat's day. Groggy, hungy, and slightly hung over. Put some leftovers from dinner in the microwave. Unfortunately, I didn't notice that the paper plate that I used had decorative saint pat's themed foil on it. The portion of the paper plate that didn't have food on it caught fire seemingly instantly. That wakes you up really damn fast. Microwave ended up being ok, but it was kind of a bitch to scrub the soot out of it.
Haha i have done something similar, my case was there was little leftover nutella and it was cold as well, straight from the fridge, i microwaved it and the opening of the jar had a little leftover aluminum from the sealing of the nutella, and it breaked its glass unfortunatelly, fucking up my nutella.
I think this goes well to prove that some rules aren't there because of things that are ALWAYS a problem, they're there for things that are SOMETIMES a problem. I've accidentally left a fork in the microwave and gotten burned on it, but have had small fires with things like foil-lined plates that I didn't know had foil in them -- the fire risk is real if there's paper involved! Domino's also has some boxes with foil in them... I had a pizza fire once. That was scary.
Same. Tried re-heating some Olive Garden Breadsticks in the bag, accidentally caused the bag to ignite. I did manage to put it out, though. Edit: the bag wasn’t all that burned. No ash got on the delicious Breadsticks
New microwaves have protection against this kind of things. Only problem is it will reduce its power to less than half and most likely your food won’t warm or cook as supposed to.
@@LtW00dy much better for your food not to heat up than for your microwave to catch fire, lol. Makes sense that they could detect if the waves aren’t moving properly thru the case
For proper plasma in the microwave, you have to cut a grape in half and place the two pieces next to each other. The physics behind it is also really interesting, as the grapes act like lenses and have about the perfect size to focus the radiation to a small spot.
BTW, my microwave by Panasonic came with metal grids to be used inside it, and they never arch. They are recommended by the designers. What is the trick?
I was part of a company who was designing silicone coated metal to go in the microwave for baking bread/etc. We had perforated metal inside the lids and the biggest factor was the hole size when determining if something would spark. Anything larger than 1-2mm would be too large of a spark gap and would be safe in the microwave.
no, its about inductence, when you put a straight copper wire in the microwawe, minimal arking happens , but when you put a copper coil in there and put the ends close to each other, its mutch better, remember how the clamp melted in the middle of it where the spring is, the spring acts as inductor and converts em waves to electric current.
When I was in year 12 some had a free class so were in the year 12 home room (a room dedicated to year 12's for lockers, to cook food and to hang out in. Some boys had the great idea to throw some springs from one of the broken couches in the microwave and set it to as many minutes it could do. It was arcing like crazy. Of course after about 30 seconds the principal started walking towards the room showing a prospective student and parent around, the boys freaked out and opened the microwave, but of course the springs were too hot to touch and fell out of their hands on to the carpet, melting into it. The principal noticed smell of the metal and carpet but couldn't trace it. They could have caused a lot of damage.
During my training to a chemical lab assistant we did experiments in a microwave oven. The hotspots get hot enough to melt copper powder, so we made brass and beads of boron glass. The glass can be colored, too, by adding salts. Cobalt for instance dyes it blue, iirc iron results in a reddish yellow and copper in green.
You missed a learning opportunity with that arcing clamp. There’s a reason it burned while the spoons didn’t. Look at where the burning started. It was the hinge/spring. Put a metal whisk in there, a cheap one with a wire wrapped handle, and you’ll find out where the true danger lies. They get really hot, like frying pan or broiler pan hot. Not fun when you reach in to stir the gravy. Then again, some ceramic mugs, especially stoneware, can do that, too. Nothing like a mug handle being hotter than its boiling contents to get your attention. My dad is a physicist and electrical engineer, so he leaves spoons in all the time. He says if they’re away from the walls, and there’s ample food to absorb most of the microwaves so the oven doesn’t kill itself, it’s no big deal. Forks can arc, though. I’ve occasionally found a small ring of charcoal around a fork tine.
That answers one of the questions I had. As a kid I remember a gold-plated (On the edge) saucer was put in microwave and it went nuts. So, what next? Putting a knife in a toaster while it's on??
My theory was initially (and still is?), that some sort of induction happens and a loop or ring - like the gold plated rim of a plate or a cup - helps to produce the effect. I was hoping, he would try that out as well ...
When I was younger I once put a plate in the microwave that was decorated with swirls made of metal. Didn't realize it was not microwave safe until I turned the microwave on and saw tiny sparks over those metal swirls of the plate. I of course turned it immediately off and took the plate out but ever since then thought that automatically any metal that goes into the microwave would just be covered in electric arcs, but thankfully stumbled upon this video to set me straight :P
This happened to me when I was super young. Back in the day, Disney had these neat Hercules plates with artwork of the characters on em. Apparently they were metallic to some degree, and poor Phil ended up with this massive black burn right on his face. I was devastated I tell you!
One day we tried to microwave some leftovers in a plate that had a decorative thin ring of gold around it and it immediately produced sparks. We never used those plates with the microwave again after that. Maybe a loop of something conductive could have the same effect ?
I'm thinking the same. Our microwave is super old (over 20 years I think, possibly even more) and it instantly arcs with all kinds of stuff like aluminium foil, cutlery, gold plating on plates etc..
@S S Yeah I once put a bowl with some kind of metal plate on the rim and within 15 seconds the microwave went into Van Der Graff mode so these days, I'm super careful about what shit I put in the nuker ⚡⚡
We had some old plates with lead in them. They were hard to distinguish from the newer ones of the same design. But the microwave was good at picking them out. No arcs, but they got really hot. We did take them out of circulation which was good for multiple reasons.
@@iwineverygame1995 i put my Newly bought peanut butter plastic container in there to heat up, ut melted a Little from the corners probably due to aluminium coating near round corners.
I always thought it has something to do with the metal being very thin with low heat capacity. I have seen very thin foil paper burn easily in a microwave even in newer microwave ovens. Maybe metal oxides also play a role (would have been interesting to test rusty metals as well).
Also Mehdi: do you have two spare spoons, some empty boxes, a spare glass, a roll of aluminum foil, some tupperware containers of varying sizes, two clamps, a fork, and a steak knife? Mehdi's wife: ... Mehdi: I might also be buying a new x-acto knife later today
@@Hitycooking Please stop posting your video link on all the comment threads! This will not get you more subscribers, it only irritates and frustrates people
electroboom is actually smart for staging himself getting electrocuted/hurt etc, if he didnt do that in every video i would have probably tried to do something he did in his video and end up electrocuting myself/setting my house on fire, it is actually a pretty smart way to be entertaining and teach safety at the same time
Thanks to Ali Humaydan for bringing the idea to my attention! One more item off my list, and I didn't kill the microwave oven in the process either! Nguyen - Nguyen! (look up the pronunciation)
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Once you know something is dangerous, it's people like Mehdi who figure out why, saving thousands afterwards with their discoveries.
Don't try this at home. We're what you call experts
I've never seen a man be so mad about his microwave not exploding.
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Lmao 😂 spot on
Well if you want it to explode, just place a sealed bottle of wine or champagne inside it, set it for 60 minutes and keep back 50 metres. ;)
"professional" btw
You need an older microwave for the real magic. Those new ovens have power limiters to prevent a high SWR situation from damaging the magnetron. When it detects a high SWR it turns the TXP down from 1200 watts to like 500 watts. Also metal that is at length of any of the wavelengths sweet spots (1/4, 1/2 wave etc.) and can hold the RF power in watts then you wont get much and this is because the metal is considered a tuned antenna and the SWR will not drive up much.
What you should have done was put a CD in there
I put a whole stack of CDs in there once.
The instructions for a microwave my parents purchaced recently explicetly states that metal is okay as long as it doesn't come into contact with the sides.
Yes, I have put metal in older microwaves and they go crazy
@@The6677yu very cool, new technology though smh...
That's not true.
*ElectroBOOM casually gets angrier that his microwave isn't exploding in his face*
I like how when trying to replicate it you had a lot of problems, everyone that had this kind of accident got it first try
Not really, they just forget when it doesn't happen 🤔 I've been using metal spoons in microwaves all my life, never had a problem
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it depends on the kind of microwave, putting metal in the old ones is very dangerous
@@zorropotatz why particularly in the older ones?
Try it with an older oven. Some modern ovens have protection for the magnetron against running the thing empty.
Super fancy (expensive) ovens are starting to move towards solid state RF amplifiers, and those too have gain controls to protect the PA's when there's hardly any load (empty) or too much load (arcs), and that power control stuff has been in some ovens for a while.
Guess the simple way to find out is look at how much power it's drawing from the mains.
That´s good idea
@ElectroBOOM ! This is a real mention!
The first microwave oven my family had a couple of decades ago had a metal rack in it. It was supported by plastic hooks that were attracted to the inside of the oven. That oven is the reason I always wondered about this "you can't put metal in a microwave" claim.
He should also try different manufacturers of cutlery. A lot of forks have high content of non ferrous metals, I'd imagine a high nickel alloy spoon will arc a lot less than a high quality stainless steel one.
I remember using an old oven that would arc a cup
I like how he's so confident that he's literally right beside the microwave, knowing that it wont explode
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I put a Capri Sun in the microwave when I was a kid and got a firework show
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You give him too much credit
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FWIW, if you read the manual for any modern microwave, they actually say that small amounts of metal are not a problem - they shield the magnetron against dangerous levels of feedback. Some even suggest using metal for cooking purposes to shield certain parts of food. I remember reading this in the manual for my first microwave oven, which I got in 1994.
They do, however, warn you to not use dishes with silver trim. Not because it's dangerous but because if any arcing occurs, it can ruin the finish of the metal.
I do wonder, however, if this was a more serious problem in older microwaves. Maybe a unit from the 80's might have less shielding and may behave differently.
I've never seen a microwave this clean, I'm so impressed
It's new
microwave a bowl of hot water for a minute.
makes cleaning a microwave a breeze.
@@alecnolastname4362 I'll try this out
@Nedd Flanders nah not really, it won't start steaming in seconds, just telling from experience and yea I used it at 900 watts of power
You've never bought a new one?
Reading the title I thought "yeah I knew it, I'm overcautious with the microwave". Then, I saw the author of the video. 💣💥
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@@durimdae872 maybe we can give you an arc as a reward for giving him the 1k
I love that this is the safest experiment you've done on this channel while doing something that everyone was told was the worst thing possible lol
He didn't even get zapped this time!
Flashbacks to the time when he put a mini plastic fan into a microwave and lit his house fireNOT CLICKBAIT
I've seen many microwave light shows throughout my life.
I was just going to post that very thing lol
It is bad. It’s just modern microwaves have more safety features.
That’s weird because I remember microwaves 20-30 years ago going crazy with arcs when you forgot a spoon in the bowl or didn’t take all the foil off whatever you put in there maybe they somehow improved them.
Exactly I wonder if he put a spoon in food if that would work because I also remember that
@@Jus4yaI came to this video because I put some food in my microwave and forgot I left my spoon in the soup but when I came back I seen it was in there and asked my brother if it was making loud spark sounds he said no and my food was warm lol
@@nickgarcia1751 lies
I always put a spoon into my cup when I want to warm my cocoa. Never had a problem, even 30 years ago.
We have a pretty old microwave (made in 2006) and im still terrified to put a spoon in it
I mean... you clearly demonstrated that if the metal touches the side of the microwave it can arc which can damage your microwave which is a good enough reason not to put metal in there at least on purpose
still probably safer than putting half a grape in there though
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Why half a grape? This is oddly specific...
@@svpracer98 Grapes in a microwave creates plasma, there are legit scientific papers studying that phenomenon lol
Every year my wife brings out the Christmas dinner plates with gold designs on them and every year I arc them out forgetting. It’s a Christmas tradition!
My wife only uses the gold designed plates because she's of the belief that you shouldn't be afraid to use things. Well, none of the plates have gold on them anymore, but my poptarts are toasty!
@@jnevercast "...she's of the belief that you shouldn't be afraid to use things."
My wife, EXACTLY. And that, dear friends, is why we can't have nice things.
They're all BRoKeN!
Yeah those arc like crazy!But they don't have sharp edges, how does it happen?
@@Frankie_Sp gold is a better conductor
Also it probably does have sharp edges you just can't feel them because they are in the plate
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*"ElectroBOOM on why it isn't dangerous to put a fork in a toaster"*
It isn't.
yeah it used to be, back when toasters were hardcore and we weren’t such pussies.
"The fuse in the house just pops and my lights go out, so boring "
The dangers of putting a fork into a toaster is quite dependent on where on the live element your metal object touches. Each element is a big long coil of wire that snakes through the toaster. One end of the element is at 110/220V and the other end is at zero volts. So, for example, on a 110V toaster 50% of the exposed heater wire is under 55V (but seriously, don't stick things in running toasters, it's still pretty dangerous)
@@natecousins6264 is this a joke?
I have never seen a more patient person to wait 30 seconds for the microwave
"I've never been so disappointed in the lack of arcs." -Mehdi 2021
Missing The days where I used to laugh my head off watching his vedios..... these days, his vedios are very educative but sadly not as funny as they used to be....
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I would prefer "Mehdi 2021" rather than "Mehdi 1977-2021"
Newer microwaves have better shielding of the emitter. Get an 30 year one with less shielding and less power regulation.
@@itsdharun we can get arcs if you have a microwave I know how to do it
When I was stationed in Iraq, one of our local national interpreters would heat up cans of soup in the microwave. One day I caught him, and told him you're not supposed to do that. He said he'dbeen doing it for months lol. I guess there was really nothing wrong with it now
No issue then with a metal tin, but probably best to open it before doing that - otherwise you got to clean your microwave.
Many cans have plastic coating inside...better don't heat in the can ever.
The only thing wrong about it is the internal coating that keeps cans safe, can leech chemicals into the food when heated.
I’d be worried about the microwave becoming an unintentional ied. Wouldn’t want to leave it in too long
@@CanadianBOT99 if you are near it you will hear and see the can bulging under pressure before it goes thermonucler... don't ask how i knoe... and yes i'd not eat that stuff anymore anyways since nearly all cans have a plastic coating on the inside (that white liner on the inside isn't metal) to prevent the can from oxydizing on the inside.
As an EE myself, I have still wondered why a steel rack was ok. I could not reconcile it in my mind. Loved your presentation. Very funny and entertaining. Thanks.
The steel rack wasn't tested in this video - you only saw a picture of it. I'm pretty sure that the rack belongs to an infrared convection oven (as seen on TV). I used to have one, it has nothing to do with microwaves. And yes, I would expect it to produce spectacular sparks, similar to a golden trim around a plate.
Thats for the "microwaves" that you see in resaraunts. Nothing rotates, they don't create heat spots and you put foil in there all the time. All they have in common with microwaves is they heat up food in seconds and they are small.
@@ruslankadylak2999well, you're wrong on both counts. There are some microwave ovens that come with metal racks in them. But you don't have to take my word for it - just Google it
The arcing in the microwave is similar to a lightning storm passing a city. I forget all the electromagnetic concepts of that apply but the air isn't isn't a perfectly homogeneous fluid(fractional differences in humidity) so path of least resistance isn't visible but like op was demonstrating certain shapes like pointy things like a radio tower have a higher likelihood of attracting an arc of electromagnetic energy. Even in the sealed environment of the microwave, the energies put into the objects start creating convection currents creating different resistances in the fluid (air)
So, in a microwave oven we have a magnetron (emitter of microwave energy). The food is the “load”, as the frequency is best to heat water molecules. Putting metal in (as far as I am concerned) simply provides a path of less resistance and puts a greater stress on the magnetron.
As a teen, I bought a microwave for testing purposes. The best I found: straighten a paperclip, then bend it into a near circle, so there's a small gap between the tips. It started fountaining golden sparks, like a firework, and when the microwave turned off, the clip ends looked melted, and the gap had increased significantly, haha.
I have bridged the gap in burnt out tungsten bulbs with plasma when I was a teen! (without microwaves)
It even (slowly) melted the tungsten too! But the bulb worked fine for at least a few minutes. The funny part was that the arc was so low power, that is was invisible near the working tungsten filament, so it looked like the bulb was working in open circuit.
I imagine the paperclip was melting and burning very fast at those arc temperatures.
Where were your parents??
@ in the microwave probably
Tin foil works wonders! I found that out the hard way as a kid
You can do the same trick by cutting a grape almost completely in half, only leaving a thin piece of skin connecting the two halves. Place it in the microwave with the open side up, and watch the magic
many frozen foods, have metal in the "microwave safe" packaging, its there to purposely draw current/heat to it, instead of other places, and acts like a heatsink, and a reflector to direct the microwaves, that actually brows and crisps up your food as it cooks, instead of it just having that standard rubber texture of microwaved food.
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I’m pretty sure microwave popcorn has a metalized film that heats the popcorn
I remember large chicken pot pies that use aluminum foil trays within a cardboard box, right in the microwave.
the material used is called METPET if anyone is intrested
@@jmac1099 Tons of microwave meals (mainly ones with bread) have metal to crisp it or heat it right or something like that
my microwave when i accidentally use metal rimmed dishes: "AND FROM THE POWER ZEUS HAS GRANTED ME I SHALL SMITE THIS PLATE"
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lol samething happened to me. Was literally instant arcing all around the edge. I think its cuz my microwave is older, Electroboom’s microwave seems really new. Microwaves must have evolved
@@Ghastly_Derp I think it’s a combination of older designs and foods being cooked that causes danger, because the energy also arcs through the food, causing the bad
we had to make sure not to put the plates or cups with gold leaf rims, because it would arc and destroy the leaf. We were not too careful, however, and eventually they had no leafing left lol
Still happens today
A lot of the new digital microwaves have a grill option and they are metal resistant, try on the old microwaves to put some metal and you will see the real danger
Doesn't matter what options they have .it's still a magnetron that's blasting microwaves..
Put a CD in there (can be junky old CD-R). They're the best for microwave arcs. You'll get a quick lightning show and the metal layer is destroyed. Also lets you see lots of arcs paths in the metal layer. I did this to tons of discs in college. 🙂
I can't even remember how many AOL CD's I did this with when I was younger! Just don't leave them in more than a few seconds. The burning plastic stinks.
I came to make this same suggestion. It looks so cool.
What’s a CD?
@@IslamicTalksPodcast bruh
Dvd's make different colours IIRC from a drunken escapade.
This reboot of "Is It A Good Idea To Microwave This?" looks promising.
Bro you just unlocked a memory I forgot about lol I could of swore “is it a good idea to microwave that?” Was a fever dream lol “bad smoke, don’t breath that in!” A company would be sued to shit now of days doing that lol
good old times...
i miss those days
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This man’s reckless abandon for what he puts in his microwave inspires me honestly.
You should check out Photonicinduction. He's the king of doing stupid things with electricity intelligently. Not that electroboom isn't a great channel too. There's lots of good channels.
Worldwide, this video probably has some burn victims to its name, and this dude made money off of it lmao
@@PVComedy "victims" ie: people who half-watched, didnt listen to anything he said, and were going to do it anyway lol
@@PVComedy If you're that stupid to try this even after he repeatedly tells you to do not do it, that's not his fault anymore.
Should check out "is it a good idea to microwave this"
The most dangerous metal in a microwave experiment I have seen involved microwaving steel wool.
9:58 "I made a piece of... sheet" LOL :-D As a non-native English speaker, I can relate to the conscious efforts to pronounce some words very carefully, emphasizing them a lot :-D
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Relatable
I think he was just making a pun.
I absolutely crack up every time
Imagine you walk into your dad’s workshop and he’s just sitting there, microwaving spoons.
And you are holding Karens cat.
"Hey hun, where's your father?"
"Hey Mom, well he's micro-"
"Microwaving spoons again??"
"Yep"
"I thought we were past this. So, how long has he bee-"
"About 4 hours"
"Oh jesus christ"
Then he belongs in the "nut house!"
You really should have put steel wool in there.
I think he was trying to keep it to kitchen stuff.
I mean. That's stuff That's IN the kitchen...
When
I thought only Casey Ryback did that?
I really want to see him put an aluminum take home container in there. Classic situation of somebody putting metal in the microwave.
"HAHHA FINALLY" - One of my unintended experiments:
Many moons ago, with a group of friends we went to a friend of ours cottage. We were many, so to heat up the lunch for all of us (in the microwave), we needed to use also the fancy plates, I got one of those. I thought that the thin, golden decoration rim was some sort of ceramic with some golden-effect paint on it. Then, as soon as I started the microwave, it started to spark on the inside (Ofc I immediately stopped the microvawe). It turned out, that rim was actual gold. Which still has burn marks on it and I hope that my friend's aunt will never find out. Huh. Woopsies. But the food was good (and warm, warmed up in a different plate).
My microwave actually instructs me to put a spoon in any glass or cup of liquid I want to heat up. It helps to dissipate heat to prevent liquids from boiling or exploding. Always blew the mind of anyone I told about this. They always believed it couldn't be a real microwave oven, then.
Finally. I was beginning to think I am crazy. I clearly remember that we had to put a metal spoon into our cups when heating liquids when I was a kid and Microwave ovens were kinda new.
Whenever I tell this story, they are all claiming that I must be misremembering, "Metal = Boom, everyone knows that" :) :)
Doesn't have to be a metal spoon. It could be a chopstick. You're just giving the fluid something with nucleation points in it so you don't end up with a container of superheated liquid that will vaporize as soon as it is disturbed. It happens most easily with smooth glass containers with narrow necks.
Those microwavable meals all have foil in the packaging to reflect waves and heat more evenly.
It's to provide a nucleation site so the water doesn't superheat and then flash to steam. (aka explode) You do NOT want that to happen while removing it from the oven. I use a chopstick if I'm boiling water in a microwave.
@@notjustforme from my experience, potato=boom
New idea: 1. Heat up metal plate in microwave. 2. Place pizza on plate. 3. Profit!
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Microwave popcorn bags have a metal grid inside the bottom layer of the bag that absorbs the microwaves to generate the necessary heat.
4. burn off finger prints on plate. 5. become bank robber
@@vulpixgaming7123 there quite cheap from what i can tell. No reason why its impossible to find one
Actually, I’m thinking that maybe over the years they have improved the technology of microwaves. Because I can remember as a child accidentally leaving my spoons/forks in my bowl and seeing arcs. Also I recall we had plates with gold edging and that used to arc too. So maybe you need to get hold of a really old microwave oven?
My exact thoughts, happened to me with a fancy plate
@@gianluccasimao same. Also when my brother overlooked using a stainless bowl for doing popcorn. Mind you the popcorn burnt was on the surface and nos inmediatley on the bowl
My parents had plates with gold edges, but the microwave partially destroyed the gold paint, so it is no longer an antenna.
Every plate was only sparking once or twice, then no more. Problem solved itself!
Ok so let’s like the shit out of this so we can get Khadi to test an old microwave form the 90s or something. And I’d love to know why the old ones did it and the new ones don’t.
Yeah when I was little I tried putting something in the microwave and the bag was held closed by a metal clip and that caused an arc too
You forgot to put some steel wool there.
you are using a microwave that advertises it's anti-arcing technology with a logo right on the door (cyclonic inverters minimize arcing and smooth the standing waves you mentioned)
@Honest Addict Post Ban 3 Yeah, intentionally misinforming people possibly causing them serious injury or death.
I recall sticky all kinds of shit in microwaves for fun since the seventies. I always got metal objects to arc of weird shit. The slinky was fun. Gallium, cool.
@Honest Addict Post Ban 3 Having practical examples of what not to do can be very informative if you're not short sighted. You and I watching these videos are not the same thing.
I was wondering why he was having so much trouble getting arcs when I immediately got them when I forgot once a fork mixed with the food and another time a plate with a golden rim. It's not safe at all because the metal gets hot as hell and doesn't cool down super quickly as aluminum foil does.
@@Gryffyth_Aurum If you need practical examples about microwaving metal, then you are "short sighted" lmao
Remembering that old video where he almost set his house on fire by placing his no.1 fan inside a fucking microwave
I did say be careful!
@@ElectroBOOM Instructions unclear! My house is burning now.
@@dynamite-san You were clearly not being careful then.
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@@ElectroBOOM OMG thank you Mehdi for replying!😄👑
“I made a piece of sheet” my inner 12 year old is rolling around laughing.
There are no sheets on my bed.
You must have missed, "My box is super hot!"
he made a piece of shEEt
Didn't overload microwave with a piece of sheet, but the accent certainly sent the TH-cam algorithm into over drive.
@@idunno402 you better not sheet on the bed you son on a beach
Watching this dude run these tests is making my anxiety sky rocket! lol
Newer microwaves have safety features against arcing, try using an old one
Infect my old one arcs like a pro
I knew it
*Thor:* Newer microwaves are NOT worthy!!!
Bull. Older microwaves had no problem with metal plates and other smooth objects
@@NavinF Yes they did. I recall them doing so
I've also had a lot of trouble making this work reliably. I've tried lots of antenna designs and materials. It's tough to get the arc to form right where you want it. If you could make it work in a specific spot you could make a microwave arc furnace.
you can place a bar of chocolate elevated without spinning and after a while, not let it totally melt, you ll be able to pinpoint geographically where the waves are in your microwave oven. Based on that you can place the antennas on the "high" points and get some arcs
Same here. Until my daughter decides to heat up our stainless steel pot and it hit the inside wall....while I wasn't home. Tripped the breaker lol
@@tyjohnston5889 Woah, can't believe that can go tripped breaker
Try a fork!!
I have heard, but never tried, that a salted slice of cabbage (not rotating) will show you the hot spots in your microwave.
I would say a great demonstration of newer technology. An old school microwave would've lit up like a Christmas tree with just the spoon. Been there done that.
i distinctly remember this happening to me too a couple of times
@Peter Evans I remember seeing them on TV testing a microwave, the guy giving the tour was having so much fun. Takes a bunch of foil, stuffs it into the microwave, turns it on for several minutes, and sees what happens. Later goes to the shooting range, loads the test rifle, and shoots some ballistic glass to see if it works. Im a huge fan of anything UL listed, especially because of that. And, you know, lower risk of the appliance burning the house down.
My current microwave doubles as a light show.
I was thinking the same! We have a really really old microwave and that thing will get ANGRY.
@@OGPatriot03 Your current microwave is a microwave _current?_
I heard that running the microwave empty or essentially empty like you were doing can reflect too much power and damage the magnetron.
Had one of those metal wire stands that broke.. I repaired it with a nice stainless TIG welding rod and tried using it in the microwave. I learned you can not do that. The sparks from that single small welding repair created a massive lightshow. I guessed the metal is coated with something that reflects the microwaves, but the welding was not protected.
Its just like regular tig/mig welding.
Bright. As. Fvck.
What you need is just a voltage differential for arcing to occur. The best way is to make a loop of metal with a gap in it. It'll produce alternating current in the loop so the ends will arc to one another.
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 Oh yeah, I've destroyed plates like that, then hidden them underneath all the other plates in the hopes nobody sees the damaged ones. 😂
cd's go off almost instantly.
Interestingly enough they become completely destroyed. So, just another kind of CD.
I think that’s what happened with the metal spring inside the clamps holding up the spoons in the video
This explains why my plates with gold rims create arcs/sparks in the microwave.
Pop tart wrapper fit the bill here? I know those use to turn into a lightshow..
My favorite was to put a CD or DVD in there, great patterns as it burns through the foil. I also ruined several antique plates with gold edging. I'd be curious to see what happens with loops of metal.
It's happened to me twice. Once when I put a foil-wrapped burger in the microwave as a kid, and again when the thermometer needle got dirty in my current microwave. Watching this, it may have been touching the wall.
It's a 1400-watt from 1982. Came with a metal rack and an internal meat thermometer from the factory. It's a wonderful machine. Got it for 25 bucks. Even had the manual. My previous microwave was 500 watts, so I've learned a few lessons the hard way. Like the Boiled Egg Grenade. I did it on purpose, but with almost triple the power, it goes from a giggle-worthy "poof" to a literal explosive.
I had a stack of Xbox magazine demo disks I did that to.
@@ootdega I just had to replace a microwave rack because grease got trapped inside one of the rubber feet which someone caused arcing there. it was super violent, and the foot exploded with tons of arcing. it's only an 1100 watt oven though from the 90's
I used to shrink chip bags in the microwave
I've had that happen with gilt patterns on a jug. Made a worryingly loud arcing buzz
I have arcs on the plates and cups with gold painting on them, mostly old ones, partially scratched.
Also the magnetite sand does the strong effect.
came here to say this. i have plates with either white gold inlay or silver (not sure which) and they sparked when i put them in the microwave. i have noticed tho, that they sparked somewhat after accidentally putting them in there, but if you keep doing it, they eventually stop sparking and no longer spark.
Like, they stop sparking on repeat uses. I dont mean "in the same session". They spark the first time, then they stop sparking and never spark again.
@@MorganZero I suspect the fine scratches on it may form edges or spiky shapes on the microscale to provoke the sparks.
@@MorganZero The heat evolved during the sparking might be enough to anneal the scratches, so the sparking ceases after the first try you described.
Wife: WHAT ARE YOU DOING!!!
Mehdi: Trying to burn down the house
Wife: AGAIN!!!!!
Again? You mean he didn't succeed last time?
I'm pretty sure she's comfortable with the proposition at this point...
wife: "oh okay - well let me know how that goes."
*' A G A I N '*
Wife: What are you doing?
Mehdi: A piece of sheet
Wife: AGAIN !!?!!
Wife: Slaps Mehdi continuously
When I was young I put CD in a microwave and the whole disk sparked like firework. You should try this in another video
Yeah i used to do this too, its awesome. The best way to do it is to put a small disposable plastic cup upside in the microwave then put the cd ontop of it shinyside up. The cd looks like one of those plasma discs with little bolts of electricity crackling all over it and shooting sparks out of the edges.
Same here, but the microwave will never smell the same,, lol
Interesting. CDs are made of a phase-change material that is supposed to melt and change between amorphous and crystalline states when blasted with optical beams... when heated enough, it probably goes full amorphous and expands, cracks, and the cracks create new sharp edges, that make arcs?
Yeah I used to do this with Cd-R discs I didn't want any more and then stuck them to the walls in my first flat for decoration haha.
Can confirm.
this is insane. every single time I accidentally left silverware in there as a kid, it went insane and make tons of smoke. maybe microwaves were less safe in the early 90s? I still remember I heated a bowl of soup with a spoon still in it, and the whole room was lit up blue by the plasma and I panicked and unplugged it. The microwave was made 1990-92
Maybe it's the liquid
@@robsumn56 Any amount of foil I put in my crappy 50 dollar microwave I got a few years ago from home depot sparks up like crazy. I tried it a couple times after watching this. A small amount all by itself in any shape makes plasma like crazy and is also really loud.
Yeah the old microwave my parents had when I was a kid still had the rotary dial timer on it made a pretty awesome lightshow when I forgot a spoon in some soup. Never made that mistake again. Must be some safety features in microwaves now or something.
Microwave technology hasn’t really changed since then.
@@MohammedAli-mb6ozIt literally did.. Industrial Microwaves are a thing now, and you can put metals in it(certain metals) if the metal doesnt touch the edge of the microwave
We actually needed someone to do this
3:52 never seen someone so happy about something in their microwave catching fire
very wholesome though 10/10
As a person who is even afraid of plugging in a toaster, i truly admire this guy
He put the spoon in there and was RIGHT NEXT TO IT the entire time.
Toasters are actually more dangerous than microwaves arguably
I wasnt allowed to do anything because "I'm stupid and talentless" by my parents saying...but yeah....I did this nothing ever happened
@@korigamik you are not helping
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I never had any issues making sparks in the microwave as a kid. I was always doing it accidentally. One thing I remember was butter packaging. Foil lined paper. Really exciting 😀
Yep. The real fun began when the melted butter soaked the paper and it burned like candle. Cleaning the brown crisp and soot from the inside wasn't tho 🤣
Duude i remember how often I’d put things like pasta or rice in the microwave with the fork/spoon too. Nothing bad happened
Once in a 3am study session I forgot that the paper the hamburger was wrapped in had foil on the other side, and started a fire.
I can say from experience that the old Arby's sandwich wrappers, which were paper and aluminum foil, definitely caught fire in the microwave.
The reason is that the conductive aluminium layer was even thinner there. It had a much higher resistance.
@@MetallicReg Combine that with nice flammable greasy paper and you have fire. Fire in the microwave.
@LabRat Knatz That's when I get Arby's too
Electroboom has a special arc less microwave. My microwave arcs like crazy when I leave any metal.
I'll leave spoons in when reheating soup. I only had arcing once from a fork that was beside some food.
And the classic "frozen bag of bread with a metal tie" that is forgotten about. That quickly arcs.
@@volvo09 the arcs add flavour
@@ohmygahdbilly "Would you like some arc-flavoured pizza?"
@@cicianamumu had that last night, no thanks
Newer microwave ovens on the market definitely avoid arching more than older or cheap ones, but im not sure why.
I'm learning electronics right now and tbh, I wish this dude was my teacher, lol. The stories I could tell.
His way of teaching is a lot more memorable and fun than the boring dry instruction you receive in classes. Maybe you can ask your instructor to show some of his videos in class to demonstrate things. Or you might be able to recreate one of his more tame experiments in class
Don't let school get in the way of your education - someone sometime idk
Aka he can be your teacher but only by TH-cam
Mehdi: does everything in his power to break something.
Something: doesn't break.
Mehdi: "You're breaking my heart"
Put a CD or DVD in it. It will arc in a tree pattern. I used to do that to make sure information was destroyed when discarding data CDs. You only need a few seconds for it to arc.
Cool
Or just get a razor blade and scratch?
@@alexwang982 but it's not as fun to watch. :-)
When I watch this I imagine Mehdi's wife looking around the house for her microwave oven and at the end of the day asking Mehdi what he did that day.
"You did what to my microwave oven?!"
Film it, call it "Dueling Unibrows"
She responds like she did that shocking family vid where she slaps him repeatedly
I remember once when I was a kid I wanted to heat up my tea and I left a teaspoon inside the mug. The microwave lit up like a christmas tree. So, does that mean the more modern ovens have some kind of protection?
Something like that
See, my theory is that when the metal is inside another material, like liquids or maybe soup, or any kind of food, the food/drinks itself act as some sort of conductor. I wish his experiment brought these factors into play because I’ve never found myself wanting to only warm up my utensils 😅 BUT I have accidentally left utensils inside various dishes and also have kids who tend to not think things like this through thoroughly. I would like to see this experiment again with different types of variables, and also would like for him to reign in more on why the utensil arcs when it touches the side of the microwave. I have intuition on it obviously but would just love to see the experiment fully thorough without having to sacrifice my own family oven to do so 😅
He is using a very modern one, an "inverter" microwave, no idea if that's more protection too.
@@rpavlik1 is it an actual inverter or just called that?
@@bigkirbyhj666 I'm not sure, but I know they don't have the typical large transformer in them, so that suggests they may actually be inverters. (As in, switch mode power supply on some level at least)
actually our ex microwave showed a picture to put spoon inside cup when warming a drink and not without.
However have had electrical discharges several times with metal- but with a plastic cover (for splatter) its fine
I would've liked to see you explore a bit with springs / coils. Since some fuckery seemed to go on with the spring of a clip you used to hold stuff up.
So it's relatively safe to put metal utensils in the microwave, but one things that you probably still shouldn't put into a microwave is plates with gold or silver detailing. That feels like an important part of the "no metal in the microwave" rule.
That one is probably the worst case scenario. Regular spoons or such do absolutely nothing. I've heard some people even recommend putting a spoon into a glass of water because it might prevent the water from superheating itself, which can then suddenly burst into steam once you move the glass. But obviously you shouldn't heat up liquids to that degree in a microwave anyway.
The worst stuff that usually happens to me is puttng some kind of scrambled egg in there and some of the inside hitting a high power spot, getting super heated and exploding egg all over the inside of the microwave lol.
My grandad gave me some plates with gold around the rim, he's got dementia so tries to upsell everything. I wasn't sure whether it was actually a metal rather than just some paint, until I tried to put it in the microwave. Within one second the entire rim of the plate sparked up, microwave was turned off immediately. I guess it is real gold!
I burned up a gold-detailed plate in the microwave recently.
Definitely, I remember as a kid accidentally putting such plates in the microwave on accident, eventually I figured not to do that lol.
@@LeutnantJoker Gold- or silver-detailed cutlery isn't that uncommon, tbf. Wouldn't call it a "worst case" scenario (if by "worst case" you meant it'd happen very, very rarely)
1:52 Hey mehdi, they use those metal trays in microwave ovens when they're using either grill or convection settings. In those cases, the food or whatever is heated by a coil, not microwaves. That's why it's safe. It's still not recommended to use those trays while using the microwave settings though.
I use the round metal tray all the time on microwave settings and nothing ever happend.
@@jaspervanwijk2685 i used the stand in mine and it started arcing.
@@jaspervanwijk2685 I have one as well and use it frequently with absolutely no problems
When you have oven with microwave there are actually two trays: metal one for oven and ceramic one for microwave, there are also two sets of racks but I think both are metal but with different sizing. Both in Sasmung one and Siemens that I have.
It was fine in mine too (combination setting alternating between grill and microwave). It was only 700watts though. Maybe that's a factor
Just place 2 grapes next to each other more arcs than you can handle!
On some microwaves, there’s a recommendation to leave a spoon in any cups of liquid (tea, water etc) because without it, water can become superheated and boil explosively when you move the glass, spraying people with boiling water.
The spoon (or chopstick, other object) agitates the water and starts the boiling process, so it doesn’t spray. Just don’t let the metal touch the sides or glass!
But if the microwaves closed then how would the boiling water sprsy anyone?
@@shadowkyber2510 That's the thing- until the water is disturbed it won't boil! Search for "superheated water microwave", there's plenty of videos about it
@@jamesmcilvenny2294 that's really cool. It reminds me of car coolent, it gets hotter than boiling point but because it's preserised it can't boil, that is until someone opens it and gets sprayed with extremly hot liquid
@@shadowkyber2510 Those are actually two slightly different phenomena, though related, phenomena having to do with pressure. In essence, for water to boil it needs to overcame the surrounding pressure to change from liquid to gas. If the water is restricted in it's space, then it can't expand and continues to increase in temperature until its internal pressure ("desire to vaporize") exceeds the external pressure which keeps it from boiling.
In the car, the cooling system is closed, there is nowhere for the fluid to expand, so it can't boil. Once the cap on the system is opened, the fluid has somewhere to expand into and immediately starts to boil (given its heated enough). This is actually similar to what happened e.g. at the Chernobyl disaster. The water in the reactor was heated by the fission but, as the reactor was a closed system, the water couldn't expand into gas. Once the internal pressure rose far enough, it cracked open the steel lid of the reactor and, now open, could immediately expand, resulting in the explosion.
Now, in the microwave with superheated water, the thing that keeps the water in an open container from boiling is actually the surface tension of the water itself. The surface tension doesn't have unlimited strength, so there is a rather small window of "water wants to boil but is kept in check by surface tension" and "water is hot enough that internal pressure overcomes surface tension". Think of a balloon you want to inflate.
That also only works if the surface of the water is not disturbed in any other way. That's why it's recommended to put something like a stirring stick (non-metal, just in case) in the water, as it already breaks the surface. Just having very slight imperfections in the surface of the container (cup, etc.) is usually also already enough.
However, if you're unfortunate enough and you accidentally superheat the water in the microwave, then it may happen that you touching the cup and disturbing the water inside ever so slightly is what breaks the surface tension. And suddenly, all the internal pressure gets released and you end up with hot water in your face :/
(Oh and one more thing: A system under pressure is spelled "pressurized" )
@@Magrior thanks, that's very informative. It's spelt pressurised for me so I wasn't too off. The problems that I say "a" instead of "er" and "ur" most the time so I say presh-a-rised and then to spell it I just guess out of the 3. And on top of that there's double letters too so I have no chance
“It’s hard to make arcs in a microwave” Two grapes:
*am I a joke to you?*
Don't you mean Derek from Veritasium?
@@EelcoPeterzen Maybe both made such a video
Wasn't that plasma
@@ornessarhithfaeron3576 Maybe, but I couldn't find any from Steve.
And yes, those grapes formed plasma, through an arc. It's what usually happens in an arc, especially those big ones at power plants.
@@ratchicken8159 Well, arcs are a manifestation of electrical breakdown which is plasma
Experimented quite a bit myself, but I used a really old one with high power. Worked like a charm to make big arcs or plasma.
I won't go into detail but all I can say, steel wool in the right setup or open flames work the best. (Don't do that..) Got so much arcing that I ended up with molten metal puddles and the like. And in other runs could sustain a plasma ball for some time that I trapped under a glass, until the glass exploded that is. xD
Guessing the inverter design signal is way different than the older CW way design effects. I know with lasers and other electromagnetic designs the effects of the signal through air or media is different. I recall the CW's heat up way more the air and other medium compared to pulse train methods.
Same here. Growing up we had a Montgomery Ward microwave. That sucker would leave burn marks on spoons.
@@jafinch78 Could be, I am not sure. Idk if they really changed anything fundamentally over the years. I always thought they would just always use the inexpensive commercial continuous wave magnetron.
My old oven surely had one like this, either it was 100% on or completely off. You could just set how long it should wait in-between.
It even had a circuit diagram on the back which was very simple. But the simple things don't break so easily. I even tried to melt glass or put burning sparklers in it. It never died on me, until I took it apart for the components. xD
"or open flames" what? I don't even understand what you mean by that.
@@ewthmatth microwaving a flame can cause plasma. Like microwaving a lit candle and such.
When I was a kid, I accidently put a bowl covered with aluminium foil to heat in the microwave, and saw a ton of sparks and pops. Like literally 20 times more than in your entire video.
I got the slippers that day, but yeah, never put metal anywhere near that death contraption ever again...
old microwaves are more wild.
He only tried 1 microwave. Test an old microwave without modern safeguarding. BUT BE CAREFUL!!!
It's the Aluminum foil
@@toxicara dont even need to go that old just choose a cheap one without electronics and mechanical timing these ones should do aswell
Haha i did something similar
1:55 AFAIK those metal stands are only for ovens with grill function, since the heaters are typically on top surface so it's better to raise the plate, and manual states that you can't use the stand if you are using just microwaves or combined grill+microwave.
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Right, my microwave oven with grill function came with one. According to its own user's manual, it's only used for grilling.
That being said, it also recommends using both grill and the microwave at once for grilling, meaning it's still the same thing. The manual also recommends the usage of aluminium foil to cover many food items for optimal cooking.
yes.it is for grill function use only..
and not to be used in combi mode(grill+mwave).
this is to reduce risk of arcing.
electroboom only tested it within 30 sec,
in normal use,we usually use it more than that depending on what meal,drinks that we are cooking/heating.
if I were u,I don't take chances
My family had once a microwave that recommended putting a spoon in a drink or soup to warm up. We found it odd but the hot choco did warm up better with the spoon in it.
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Spoon absorbs heat, heat transfers down to the bottom of the cup, overall more consistent heating in cup. tada. :P
my microwave also has a picture on it that suggests using a spoon with any liquids
@Peter Evans pretty sure the screen is specifically designed to prevent that
This was very fascinating to watch. I just recently repaired my ex-wife's microwave because one of my daughters had a boyfriend who stuck an opened can of SpaghettiOs in the microwave. The arcing scorched the paint around the magnetron and ate a hole in the shield-cap on the tip of the magnetron. I had to scrape away the flakes of scorched paint around the magnetron, repaint the damage with enamel spray paint, and install a new magnetron and a new beam cover. Good as new now. I wish I could show you a photo of the magnetron in the comments.
Curious if the design of microwave ovens has changed much from back in the 70s? Specific wavelengths? Shielding? Duty cycle? Different layout of whatever is doing the emitting resulting in different hot/cold spots?
I would not be surprised if a lot of microwaves now have some sort of system to prevent arcing and that's what's going on.
More efficient power supplies/components, more safety features/safer power circuits (70's era stuff, like some cheap Chinese stuff, wasn't exactly up to modern safety standards). Modern Microwaves are often more powerful than the old ones as well presumably due to the better efficiency but also due to better materials in general. Frequency wise there are 2 standards 900MHz and 2.4GHz, pretty much everything uses the latter and as far as I know always has. 2.4 GHz is more power efficient since higher frequencies/shorter wavelengths have more power per photon or wave (depending on which theory you follow).
@@grn1 2.4 GHz? That's in the same frequency range as Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, isn't it? Good thing they're shielded to the outside, otherwise they would interfere heavily with Wi-Fi (apart from the newer standards that use 5 /6 GHz) or Bluetooth, I suppose.
@@uNiels_Heart Good thing they are shielded, so that they won't cook you to hell
@@uNiels_Heart I can confirm that my Bluetooth Headset loses about a half to a meter (1.6 to 3 feet in freedom units) of range when the microwave is turned on, but that might just be general EM interference.
That's a whole lot of minutes for nothing 😂
Ok
That's a whole lot of minutes to prove that it's not that dangerous to put metal in his microwave oven
@@DanyalArcadio if you use microwaves with a proper MOT you could burn your house down if you don't care about the plasma, those little transformers run real close to their limit
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What is their limit?
Pas du tout, j'irai toujours pas foutre du métal dans un micro-onde mais au moins, je sais maintenant que si un jour j'oublie une fourchette dedans, je n'aurais pas du shrapnell volant partout.
Try microwaving some CDs or DVDs, usually quite effectful.
Write-once discs give the most interesting results. No idea why.
No sharp edges on CDs, but they arc like crazy.
@@OldBaldDad The whole surface is microscopically sharp, and as the foil arcs away it creates more sharp points. it's the same as thin metallic leaf or other thin metals that can't take the current like the aluminum foil can.
@@NillKitty I suppose it is microscopically sharp, but the pits and lands on a CD are way too small to affect microwaves. I suspect it has more to do with the thickness of the metal layer. It wouldn't take much energy to start burning it away.
Do people even still have cds ? Where does one find one of these “cds” you speak of
Was not the first air plane food used in WW2 a microwave / TV dinner thing, but the plates were made of metal, even early TV dinners were made on metal plates
When it was cold I put some nutella in the microwave so I could spread it without teraing the bread, but I didn't see it had one of those anti-theft metal barcodes. It caught fire seconds after microwaving it, there was burnt plastic everywhere... Don't worry, nutella was safe and unharmed, luckily
Once, I woke up the day after saint pat's day. Groggy, hungy, and slightly hung over. Put some leftovers from dinner in the microwave. Unfortunately, I didn't notice that the paper plate that I used had decorative saint pat's themed foil on it. The portion of the paper plate that didn't have food on it caught fire seemingly instantly. That wakes you up really damn fast.
Microwave ended up being ok, but it was kind of a bitch to scrub the soot out of it.
Haha i have done something similar, my case was there was little leftover nutella and it was cold as well, straight from the fridge, i microwaved it and the opening of the jar had a little leftover aluminum from the sealing of the nutella, and it breaked its glass unfortunatelly, fucking up my nutella.
Sad state of society if they have to put anti-theft stuff on nutella
I think this goes well to prove that some rules aren't there because of things that are ALWAYS a problem, they're there for things that are SOMETIMES a problem. I've accidentally left a fork in the microwave and gotten burned on it, but have had small fires with things like foil-lined plates that I didn't know had foil in them -- the fire risk is real if there's paper involved! Domino's also has some boxes with foil in them... I had a pizza fire once. That was scary.
Same. Tried re-heating some Olive Garden Breadsticks in the bag, accidentally caused the bag to ignite. I did manage to put it out, though.
Edit: the bag wasn’t all that burned. No ash got on the delicious Breadsticks
New microwaves have protection against this kind of things. Only problem is it will reduce its power to less than half and most likely your food won’t warm or cook as supposed to.
@@LtW00dy much better for your food not to heat up than for your microwave to catch fire, lol. Makes sense that they could detect if the waves aren’t moving properly thru the case
It wasn't Domino's fault. It was good punishing you for microwaving pizza
I am impressed he didn't suspect a power limiter
For proper plasma in the microwave, you have to cut a grape in half and place the two pieces next to each other.
The physics behind it is also really interesting, as the grapes act like lenses and have about the perfect size to focus the radiation to a small spot.
smart guy eh
BTW, my microwave by Panasonic came with metal grids to be used inside it, and they never arch. They are recommended by the designers. What is the trick?
Most of the plasma is made from the sodium ions, but you are also correct, in that it helps to focus down the microwaves
I was part of a company who was designing silicone coated metal to go in the microwave for baking bread/etc.
We had perforated metal inside the lids and the biggest factor was the hole size when determining if something would spark. Anything larger than 1-2mm would be too large of a spark gap and would be safe in the microwave.
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no, its about inductence, when you put a straight copper wire in the microwawe, minimal arking happens , but when you put a copper coil in there and put the ends close to each other, its mutch better, remember how the clamp melted in the middle of it where the spring is, the spring acts as inductor and converts em waves to electric current.
Mehdi just completely ignored the clamp catching fire but I guess he really was just looking for arcing and not faster heat buildup.
looks like only 1 of the clamps arced though
I yelled at my phone when I saw him ignore the spring in the clamp (I’m an electrical engineer)
When I was in year 12 some had a free class so were in the year 12 home room (a room dedicated to year 12's for lockers, to cook food and to hang out in.
Some boys had the great idea to throw some springs from one of the broken couches in the microwave and set it to as many minutes it could do. It was arcing like crazy. Of course after about 30 seconds the principal started walking towards the room showing a prospective student and parent around, the boys freaked out and opened the microwave, but of course the springs were too hot to touch and fell out of their hands on to the carpet, melting into it. The principal noticed smell of the metal and carpet but couldn't trace it. They could have caused a lot of damage.
During my training to a chemical lab assistant we did experiments in a microwave oven. The hotspots get hot enough to melt copper powder, so we made brass and beads of boron glass. The glass can be colored, too, by adding salts. Cobalt for instance dyes it blue, iirc iron results in a reddish yellow and copper in green.
Famous last words: “Metal in a microwave isn’t even that dangerous”
You missed a learning opportunity with that arcing clamp. There’s a reason it burned while the spoons didn’t. Look at where the burning started. It was the hinge/spring. Put a metal whisk in there, a cheap one with a wire wrapped handle, and you’ll find out where the true danger lies. They get really hot, like frying pan or broiler pan hot. Not fun when you reach in to stir the gravy. Then again, some ceramic mugs, especially stoneware, can do that, too. Nothing like a mug handle being hotter than its boiling contents to get your attention.
My dad is a physicist and electrical engineer, so he leaves spoons in all the time. He says if they’re away from the walls, and there’s ample food to absorb most of the microwaves so the oven doesn’t kill itself, it’s no big deal. Forks can arc, though. I’ve occasionally found a small ring of charcoal around a fork tine.
Yeah the spring essentially becomes a coil winding.
Can you explain me why if a metal touch the walls of the microwave it will arc?
@@riccardoo.5606 i cant but the walls are metal so somehow electricity transfers between the spoon and wall
@@riccardoo.5606 Quite sure the metal case of the microwave is grounded, so that's why.
u and or your old man need to start making videos
That answers one of the questions I had. As a kid I remember a gold-plated (On the edge) saucer was put in microwave and it went nuts.
So, what next? Putting a knife in a toaster while it's on??
My theory was initially (and still is?), that some sort of induction happens and a loop or ring - like the gold plated rim of a plate or a cup - helps to produce the effect. I was hoping, he would try that out as well ...
One thing that stood out to me was that the items that sparked also had much lower mass and heat capacity than the items that did not spark.
When I was younger I once put a plate in the microwave that was decorated with swirls made of metal. Didn't realize it was not microwave safe until I turned the microwave on and saw tiny sparks over those metal swirls of the plate. I of course turned it immediately off and took the plate out but ever since then thought that automatically any metal that goes into the microwave would just be covered in electric arcs, but thankfully stumbled upon this video to set me straight :P
This happened to me when I was super young. Back in the day, Disney had these neat Hercules plates with artwork of the characters on em. Apparently they were metallic to some degree, and poor Phil ended up with this massive black burn right on his face. I was devastated I tell you!
"METAL in MICROWAVE Oven Is NOT That Dangerous" coming from a guy that has "BOOM" as a part of his name...
Don't accept danger advice from a man who electrocutes himself on average once per video.
One day we tried to microwave some leftovers in a plate that had a decorative thin ring of gold around it and it immediately produced sparks. We never used those plates with the microwave again after that. Maybe a loop of something conductive could have the same effect ?
Same here, heated up a plate that had foil in it and got little blue sparks around it.
same here, but I'm not sure if it's gold or just golden metal, but it immediately arks
We used to have a bunch of plates and cups with silver edges. All of them arced in the microwave.
Same
You saved me commenting the same. LOL
Has MWO changed over the years? I remember forgetting spoons and forks in the MW as a kid and that was always spectacular
I'm thinking the same. Our microwave is super old (over 20 years I think, possibly even more) and it instantly arcs with all kinds of stuff like aluminium foil, cutlery, gold plating on plates etc..
Power level. Old school MWs just dumped power. I've seen fireworks shows in those old ones.
@S S Yeah I once put a bowl with some kind of metal plate on the rim and within 15 seconds the microwave went into Van Der Graff mode so these days, I'm super careful about what shit I put in the nuker ⚡⚡
We had some old plates with lead in them. They were hard to distinguish from the newer ones of the same design. But the microwave was good at picking them out. No arcs, but they got really hot. We did take them out of circulation which was good for multiple reasons.
@@iwineverygame1995 i put my Newly bought peanut butter plastic container in there to heat up, ut melted a Little from the corners probably due to aluminium coating near round corners.
I always thought it has something to do with the metal being very thin with low heat capacity. I have seen very thin foil paper burn easily in a microwave even in newer microwave ovens. Maybe metal oxides also play a role (would have been interesting to test rusty metals as well).
This was the most nerve-wracking and horror-movie level terrifying video. I flinched everytime he started the microwave, waiting for it to explode.
Mehdi : Give me microwave
Mehdi wife: Will it come in one piece?
Mehdi: we have to find out 💥⚡
Yes, microwaves come in one piece.
Also Mehdi: do you have two spare spoons, some empty boxes, a spare glass, a roll of aluminum foil, some tupperware containers of varying sizes, two clamps, a fork, and a steak knife?
Mehdi's wife: ...
Mehdi: I might also be buying a new x-acto knife later today
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@@Hitycooking Please stop posting your video link on all the comment threads! This will not get you more subscribers, it only irritates and frustrates people
This makes me miss the old "is it a good idea to microwave this?" videos. Old YT was awesome.
Old YT was better 😔
WILL
IT
BLEND!?
Nobody likes roasted nuts!
the old *internet* was better. slower, but more free.
Photonic induction
electroboom is actually smart for staging himself getting electrocuted/hurt etc, if he didnt do that in every video i would have probably tried to do something he did in his video and end up electrocuting myself/setting my house on fire, it is actually a pretty smart way to be entertaining and teach safety at the same time
"is it a good idea to microwave this" lives on in spirit
Thought I was the only one that remembered!
4:42 You made microwave plasma