Fun fact I have no idea if somebody already mentioned in the comments, but after episode 2 Roy (Yellow's father) appears on every single episode, hidden in the background, _always watching._ -Episode 3: Between the cult when they start singing about Malcolm -Episode 4: In a corner of the room when Red is sitting alone at the table -Episode 5: Above the set when Duck makes the camera fall -Episode 6: Three times during the Dreams song (sitting at the theater, in the phone box thing and peeking at the window while Yellow sinks in oil) Also he gets credited at the end of the credits from that point as well
I’m shocked you’ve never even heard of DHMIS with how popular it is. It actually got an actual TV show just the other year which I highly recommend checking out.
theyve become their favorite colors. i've seen some say the ending is the group leaving whatever corporation was funding them and forcing bad advice through, and while theyre in a cheaper set theyre free to actually give proper entertainment, with either no teachers or good teachers.
i mean, the theory itself may be interesting but it doesn’t mean you’d then be watching while “knowing the entire meaning behind the show” - the show doesn’t have a definitive meaning and part of what makes it so interesting to delve into and theorize about is being able to form unique interpretations about what it means
Matpat did a couple theories on this show, while there are many valid theories, his DHMIS videos were incredibly well done and held a lot of weight. The basic story we got if you don’t feel like watching them is, Red guy was an aspiring kids entertainer without a budget, yellow guys dad, Roy, helped him out with sponsorship, filling their kids shows with props to make it feel lively. But it was all product placement for Roy, who also had a dual motivation of tormenting his son (a news article interview with the characters of the show stated he will make his son suffer basically and that yellow guy has a fear of horses as well as other things, hence the horse imagery we see in the background. And why yellow guy is always the main victim of this stuff). In episode 4 red guy breaks through and realised he doesn’t need sponsorship and can do this on a shoestring budget if it was something he truly loved, and so he tried to save his friends from the show. Pulling the plug and restarting it on their terms (less props, everyone is now their favourite colour and the date changes). That’s just one of the popular theories but there’s plenty more.
Nice, didn't expect you to watch this but I'm glad you checked it out! This is one of those shows that uses the "show don't tell" approach to the arts that you don't see as much of in the modern era anymore. It's not so much that there's a singular "correct" meaning to the story or the episodes, but rather it's left intentionally vague to encourage your own - ahem - creativity in coming up with an interpretation or thoughts on the themes and ideas presented. I love how it uses shock and horror themes to zap your brain awake without relying on them too heavily for edge value. It was great watching you experience this, hope to maybe see you watch the TV series in this future as well!
Everyone's right, you should watch the longer TV series they were commissioned to do after these TH-cam episodes. You can tell the first TH-cam installment here is very crude. What you didn't see was a hostage video they made to raise funds to make more TH-cam installments. The longer episodes have some callbacks and a similar theme overall, but goes far deeper, exploring tragedy and the nature of civilization itself.
The first time I ever saw the first video, the one about creativity, my friend linked it to me, and I watched about 30 seconds and said “this is just a kids show” and they were like “Watch it until the end” 😂
Really wow cool :D Well the first six episodes are on youtube and then they got picked up for a real tv series. With longer episodes, more dialogues and just a bigger budget. I think you can watch it on youtube too. Also Film Theory got multiple videos on it because LOOOORE XD
"I've never seen anything like this." So, what you are saying is that you HAVEN'T watched Salad Fingers, Charlie the Unicorn, or Llamas with Hats? I would say the are in the same genre, especially Salad Fingers.
YESSS, OMG It's be AWESOME if y'all could watch the official TV show too! It only has 1 season rn, and it's actually been fully uploaded to TH-cam. This show is so odd and surreal, but it's full of SO many details and theory fuel. I'm really happy to see more people checking it out
There’s a ton of detail in each episode Also aspic is like early invented jelly/jello stuff - you think like 1800 England to 1950/1960s US and there’s a shit ton of jello molds (Queen Victoria like uniqued foods and shapes and part of getting unique mold forms- and forming these shapes was best done with aspic a liquid that becomes a solid. which is why you can have suspended cut or canned items mixed with jello in a fancy mold. This can be meats fruits veggies even salads in jello molds. (While England had a lot of time to make metal molds the US had steel production but not fine artistry with molds it was far more common in the 1950/60s to use a bunt cake pan or just some chilled glassware - also why England developed more unique bread pans out of metal. (You can find old metal molds for things like Easter breads in the shape of actual lambs all the way to chocolate egg molds and rabbits all with details like hair texture lines or eyes noses faces etc) A lot of this series is British made with British humor and looks very very closely at British television series and issues with manipulating children/adults and even sexual harassment and abuse of children who perform on tv. (The most famous tv hosts of the 80-90s in England was Jimmy Savile - and he was vile he was exposed as one of the biggest pedophiles in the world, abusing children on his tv show but even assaulting women as old as 75 years.) this caused a major issue with viewers who had loved all his tv shows episodes and dramas and had to consider the fact they were children who grew up watching and admiring him. A lot of this series looks at how adults/children watch a show and how they relate or feel seen. And how certain narratives are forced practically down people’s throats. As characters they can’t escape the show as puppets they’re forced to perform endlessly or the characters die and are left in a warehouse/garbage bin. The main character the yellow guy is unnamed and is shown as a child and the focus is mostly on him and how he navigates the world with new info fed to him or how he disagrees gets confused and scared and worried of punishment. (Punishment being more episodes where he’s forced to endure stress/abuse - and he never grows up) The end of this mini series says ya the show can end but it will be immidiately replaced with another show that fills up that tv slot and with new people doing the acting/puppets and a new series of the same themes/genre/messages will just take its place.
But in the final scene, it's a more scraped production - as if there is no studio with big money behind it, anymore. And also, the colors they reappear in, where the exact colors the characters listed as their favourites. So it's more pure and true to self.
Okay, seeing you guys watching Don’t Hug Me I’m Scared for the first time ever was unexpected for me, what a surprise to see on TH-cam this weekend, now that you guys watched Don’t Hug Me I’m Scared for the first time ever and eventually ended this video saying it was absolutely terrifying and something that will keep you two or at least one of you awake all night long or maybe in all the other following nights for the rest of this year, you might understand where an episode of the fifth season of The Amazing World Of Gumball was coming from by the time you both reach The Amazing World Of Gumball Season 5, which of course will probably take a long time but, hey, at least you’re both lucky that I’m patient enough to wait until then, carry on with whatever you both might going, and careful, don’t hurry If one of you guys actually spend many sleepless nights this year due to what you saw watching this show then, I’ll feel very sorry for you.
The idea of the ending is that Red pulled the plug on the original show which was ran by him and the Dad named Roy I believe. Roy basically made the show into a thing to terrify his son and basically convert him to thinking like him. Sort of psychological torture. Red who was shown to have the original idea for the show by pitching it at his old office job sees the show has lost all control so he pulls the plug on it and basically goes Indie with it. Big signal for that is the day changing and the characters now being their favorite creative colors from the first episode.
"this is soo cursed" Me who's loved it since he found it from GT years ago: is it tho? this isn't even that bad. tbf, you (unintentionally? seemed like there were tech issues) cut out most of probably the most cursed episode..it's why it's my favorite though🤷♀
Why did duck guy in the TV show? He is 2009 Michael Jackson but in the first video not this TV show TH-cam he is 1984 I don’t really know when Michael Jackson was actually you know that but still Michael Jackson
Please watch the full tv show 🙏 it’s soooooo good it’ll change your life, please I’m begging you to watch the DHMIS tv show 🙏🙏🙏 the full season in on TH-cam, I’ve already watched nearly every dhmis reaction of the TH-cam series and the full tv show so I’m running out of dhmis reaction videos, the TV show please consider it sirs, it’s seriously the best piece of media, I actually been trying to set myself up to get in a freak action that will cause brain damage so that I lose all memory and can rewatch all the dhmis Videos again. ❤❤
From a viewpoint, DHMIS seems to take that childlike innocence and ruin it; Get Creative - When making something; this can be like a story, art, music, etc, the way that people make it can depend on however old you are, even an adult. When they got older, the crafts they made were more dark and inhumane. Time - While time IS confirmed an illusional concept, we WILL "run out of it" eventually as life continues. 40 million people struggle with Anxiety, while there's many other people who suffer from Death Anxiety, including me. Cognitive therapy and prescribed medication can treat both greatly. It's also important that the more you look at Death in a good way, for example, not feeling anymore pain or suffering, you will enjoy Life more while you still have it. Love - This one was a toughy because I'm not sure if this was targeted towards today's Religions or straight up cults. Both, however, are pretty dark, if you look deep in enough. Many people have their beliefs, and sometimes it can end up just like what you saw, a sinister cult who wants to indoctrinate you into their beliefs and outright insanity. Technology - While I know a lot on computer science, I'm unsure what this one was supposed to lead towards. A lot of people have said how it tells how addicting and unhealthy the media can be, even though there's so much it can do for us now. Still, it's not a bad idea to touch some grass now and then. Health - Following media, there's plenty of people who will try to tell you to "eat this, you'll live longer", or "this food is actually healthy for your heart". Nobody is really sure on what foods are considered to be good for your body at all because of this dilemma. It's best to stick with the Food Pyramid. Dreams - This one hit me. Despite how short the song was, the video still gave a lot of impact on how we see things in our dreams and also in the real world. Dreams can be about anything, but they're just dreams that most likely will never come true, whilst in the real world, everything is basically boring life in an average adult's job. Adults who have been brainwashed in that society claim songs and childish stuff to be boring, while kids think the opposite.
I can understand cutting around and muting parts of TV shows cause of DMCA, but these are just TH-cam videos... do they really think their audience is that stupid?
You do know thats what their trying to do , dont you , have you noticed that normal harmless fantasy in the childrens section has changed to more disturbing occultism , trying to come off looking cute .
They've got a TV series, too. Longer episodes, and the story's a bit easier to grasp, if you're interested. I'd love to see it
Please watch the full tv show!
That’d be awesome
I would watch their reaction fully
I hope they don't cut the credits in that one ....
Still not watched that yet
@@brooza664you should definitely check it out, it's like the web series but longer and better
"Ug, that's CURSED!" He says with a look of pure joy on his face
I've watched DHMIS so many times that I can comfotably eat food while watching it.
h how
Same I love this show so much ✨️
I'm eating rn😂
achievement unlocked right there. I still only watch the audio with reactions.
I watched filthy frank's cake triology so often i lost all sense of disgust so this show was just absolutely fascinating to me.
the tv series they made after this is one of my favorite pieces of art. genuinely. especially episodes 2 and 6
those are my favorite episodes to
Fun fact I have no idea if somebody already mentioned in the comments, but after episode 2 Roy (Yellow's father) appears on every single episode, hidden in the background, _always watching._
-Episode 3: Between the cult when they start singing about Malcolm
-Episode 4: In a corner of the room when Red is sitting alone at the table
-Episode 5: Above the set when Duck makes the camera fall
-Episode 6: Three times during the Dreams song (sitting at the theater, in the phone box thing and peeking at the window while Yellow sinks in oil)
Also he gets credited at the end of the credits from that point as well
I’m shocked you’ve never even heard of DHMIS with how popular it is. It actually got an actual TV show just the other year which I highly recommend checking out.
I knew seeing you guys reacting to this was bound to be hilarious! 😂😂 9:29
I'm so glad you two have done the web series! I hope you continue with the TV series. This show is always a trip.
The rabbit hole goes even deeper with the tv series.
Y’all should watch MatPats Film Theory’s on these.
theyve become their favorite colors. i've seen some say the ending is the group leaving whatever corporation was funding them and forcing bad advice through, and while theyre in a cheaper set theyre free to actually give proper entertainment, with either no teachers or good teachers.
I highly recommend watching film theory’s video on this. It’s super interesting knowing the entire meaning behind the show
I really hope they do that too!
I didn't know they made theories on it...I'm definitely gonna check that out!!1!
i mean, the theory itself may be interesting but it doesn’t mean you’d then be watching while “knowing the entire meaning behind the show” - the show doesn’t have a definitive meaning and part of what makes it so interesting to delve into and theorize about is being able to form unique interpretations about what it means
Few video series on the internet deserve the label 'cursed' more than Don't Hug me I'm Scared.
The TV series is pretty cool and well worth watching btw.
“What’s your name? Where do you live? What do you like to eat?”
“I live in my house!”
“Spaghetti!”
_“SHUT UP!”_
Matpat did a couple theories on this show, while there are many valid theories, his DHMIS videos were incredibly well done and held a lot of weight. The basic story we got if you don’t feel like watching them is,
Red guy was an aspiring kids entertainer without a budget, yellow guys dad, Roy, helped him out with sponsorship, filling their kids shows with props to make it feel lively. But it was all product placement for Roy, who also had a dual motivation of tormenting his son (a news article interview with the characters of the show stated he will make his son suffer basically and that yellow guy has a fear of horses as well as other things, hence the horse imagery we see in the background. And why yellow guy is always the main victim of this stuff). In episode 4 red guy breaks through and realised he doesn’t need sponsorship and can do this on a shoestring budget if it was something he truly loved, and so he tried to save his friends from the show. Pulling the plug and restarting it on their terms (less props, everyone is now their favourite colour and the date changes). That’s just one of the popular theories but there’s plenty more.
Nice, didn't expect you to watch this but I'm glad you checked it out! This is one of those shows that uses the "show don't tell" approach to the arts that you don't see as much of in the modern era anymore. It's not so much that there's a singular "correct" meaning to the story or the episodes, but rather it's left intentionally vague to encourage your own - ahem - creativity in coming up with an interpretation or thoughts on the themes and ideas presented. I love how it uses shock and horror themes to zap your brain awake without relying on them too heavily for edge value.
It was great watching you experience this, hope to maybe see you watch the TV series in this future as well!
Feel free to watch Film Theories' take on this in your free time cause it makes SO much more sense after seeing the stuff outside the show 😄
Next up? SALAD FINGERS
Everyone's right, you should watch the longer TV series they were commissioned to do after these TH-cam episodes. You can tell the first TH-cam installment here is very crude. What you didn't see was a hostage video they made to raise funds to make more TH-cam installments.
The longer episodes have some callbacks and a similar theme overall, but goes far deeper, exploring tragedy and the nature of civilization itself.
Oh the TV series is so good, you should watch it
The first time I ever saw the first video, the one about creativity, my friend linked it to me, and I watched about 30 seconds and said “this is just a kids show” and they were like “Watch it until the end” 😂
I love DONT HUG ME IM SCARED TH-cam 1440P HI VOL its my favorite show!
I’ve never heard of this show before but just by watching the first episode I kinda want to see more of it from how weird and cursed it is.
Really wow cool :D
Well the first six episodes are on youtube and then they got picked up for a real tv series. With longer episodes, more dialogues and just a bigger budget. I think you can watch it on youtube too.
Also Film Theory got multiple videos on it because LOOOORE XD
The top dude looks like my old therapist and it tripped me out 😂 love this😂
"I've never seen anything like this." So, what you are saying is that you HAVEN'T watched Salad Fingers, Charlie the Unicorn, or Llamas with Hats? I would say the are in the same genre, especially Salad Fingers.
Salad fingers is nothing like dhmis
YESSS, OMG
It's be AWESOME if y'all could watch the official TV show too! It only has 1 season rn, and it's actually been fully uploaded to TH-cam.
This show is so odd and surreal, but it's full of SO many details and theory fuel. I'm really happy to see more people checking it out
That was so fn popular that i'm surprised that youve never heard about that. I mean... EVERY episode has around 30 mln views.
You gotta watch the first film theory matpat did on this series you'll understand it much better
The food one was the first DHMIS ep I ever saw. My brain has never been the same lol
Congratulations getting pass Don't Watch Me I'm Scared... Now you have to watch the TV show
Now watch the Tv series DHMIS
There’s a ton of detail in each episode
Also aspic is like early invented jelly/jello stuff - you think like 1800 England to 1950/1960s US and there’s a shit ton of jello molds
(Queen Victoria like uniqued foods and shapes and part of getting unique mold forms- and forming these shapes was best done with aspic a liquid that becomes a solid. which is why you can have suspended cut or canned items mixed with jello in a fancy mold. This can be meats fruits veggies even salads in jello molds. (While England had a lot of time to make metal molds the US had steel production but not fine artistry with molds it was far more common in the 1950/60s to use a bunt cake pan or just some chilled glassware - also why England developed more unique bread pans out of metal. (You can find old metal molds for things like Easter breads in the shape of actual lambs all the way to chocolate egg molds and rabbits all with details like hair texture lines or eyes noses faces etc)
A lot of this series is British made with British humor and looks very very closely at British television series and issues with manipulating children/adults and even sexual harassment and abuse of children who perform on tv. (The most famous tv hosts of the 80-90s in England was Jimmy Savile - and he was vile he was exposed as one of the biggest pedophiles in the world, abusing children on his tv show but even assaulting women as old as 75 years.) this caused a major issue with viewers who had loved all his tv shows episodes and dramas and had to consider the fact they were children who grew up watching and admiring him.
A lot of this series looks at how adults/children watch a show and how they relate or feel seen. And how certain narratives are forced practically down people’s throats.
As characters they can’t escape the show as puppets they’re forced to perform endlessly or the characters die and are left in a warehouse/garbage bin. The main character the yellow guy is unnamed and is shown as a child and the focus is mostly on him and how he navigates the world with new info fed to him or how he disagrees gets confused and scared and worried of punishment. (Punishment being more episodes where he’s forced to endure stress/abuse - and he never grows up)
The end of this mini series says ya the show can end but it will be immidiately replaced with another show that fills up that tv slot and with new people doing the acting/puppets and a new series of the same themes/genre/messages will just take its place.
But in the final scene, it's a more scraped production - as if there is no studio with big money behind it, anymore. And also, the colors they reappear in, where the exact colors the characters listed as their favourites. So it's more pure and true to self.
Okay, seeing you guys watching Don’t Hug Me I’m Scared for the first time ever was unexpected for me, what a surprise to see on TH-cam this weekend, now that you guys watched Don’t Hug Me I’m Scared for the first time ever and eventually ended this video saying it was absolutely terrifying and something that will keep you two or at least one of you awake all night long or maybe in all the other following nights for the rest of this year, you might understand where an episode of the fifth season of The Amazing World Of Gumball was coming from by the time you both reach The Amazing World Of Gumball Season 5, which of course will probably take a long time but, hey, at least you’re both lucky that I’m patient enough to wait until then, carry on with whatever you both might going, and careful, don’t hurry
If one of you guys actually spend many sleepless nights this year due to what you saw watching this show then, I’ll feel very sorry for you.
You guys got to watch season 2
When I first watched DHMIS I felt like I lost brain cells but I look forward for the nxt episode every time for the same feeling lol
Hurray! Now for you to watch the TV series
Watching this as an adult is way different. I never understood the direct social commentary before lol.
You better already be editing the first video of you guys watching the tv series
The idea of the ending is that Red pulled the plug on the original show which was ran by him and the Dad named Roy I believe. Roy basically made the show into a thing to terrify his son and basically convert him to thinking like him. Sort of psychological torture. Red who was shown to have the original idea for the show by pitching it at his old office job sees the show has lost all control so he pulls the plug on it and basically goes Indie with it. Big signal for that is the day changing and the characters now being their favorite creative colors from the first episode.
The story gets much more twisted then that in the season 2 TV show of dhmis very warped
I'd love to see you react to the show as well!! 🙏
Theres a tv show of this you guys need to see!
I say 'green is not a creative color' probably monthly still
I absolutely love DHMIS 😂❤ hope u react to the 2nd season! It's funnier
Are you guys gonna react to the “Reboot” version of DHMIS?
Please react to the tv show next!!
At the end they turn into there favorite color's.
Don't spoile it, maybe they will react to the theory.
Now yu gotta watch the lure from this season then the second season
Just realized in DHMIS 5 Meat Man implies that if you eat 'healthy food' it just stays in your body forever-
Me who eats while watching this:
the tv show is bangin
FINALLY A REACTION A NEW ONEE YAYAYAYA
After this please watch
Film theory don't hug me I'm scared hidden lore
i wouldn't say it's terrifying, just unnerving/uncomfortable
If you didn't know of the date, that is of the fathers day [June, 19]
I really like dhmis. They have a vision and just make things happen XD
you should check out the tv show that onlyr ecently came out! it feels different but keeps the same spirit.
Is it just me or when they was watching episode 4 the audio went super weird
Yeah, got hit with copyright for a section so had to be edited I believe!
"this is soo cursed" Me who's loved it since he found it from GT years ago: is it tho? this isn't even that bad.
tbf, you (unintentionally? seemed like there were tech issues) cut out most of probably the most cursed episode..it's why it's my favorite though🤷♀
Would love to see y'all react to the tv show!
You guys should absolutely check out Smiling Friends after this for added absurdity lol
18:54 that was high quality guts ☠️
Just imagine. How screwed up an unsupervised kid would be watching this online . And other shows like it
PLS WATCH SEASON 2
You should watch the second season.
Please watch some theory videos to find out more & then the actual tv show!
Please, watch the TV series too, it's so good too
I was to scared to watch it so I watched a reaction lol
Out of all the don't hug me, I'm scared videos, the 5th one is the most disturbing to me
I personally don’t think that he dreamed all of that I think that it was actually real
I would love to see a reaction to the DHMIS TV show too
Why is it silent and loud again like a ratio
time for the tv show
Why did you guys cut some scenes?, The full episodes are on youtube!
Because the computer song and certain sections locked the video in quite a few regions so not everyone would be able to watch the video
Welp time for MatPat to explain this
I thought was the show. Please react to the show!
as i was like, ten- when i watched dhmis for the first time, easy to say i was traumatized
and deeply interested
Is no one going to say that the missing poster is the three of them?
You should watch the gumball episode
YESSSSS
Please do the tv show it's even better
No it's not
I love shrigngold he is so cute
Why did duck guy in the TV show? He is 2009 Michael Jackson but in the first video not this TV show TH-cam he is 1984 I don’t really know when Michael Jackson was actually you know that but still Michael Jackson
Watch the TV series!!!
what the f is this my brain
watch the tv show
Do the Tv series!
Anyone know what happens at 13:09 to the audio?
Please watch the full tv show 🙏 it’s soooooo good it’ll change your life, please I’m begging you to watch the DHMIS tv show 🙏🙏🙏 the full season in on TH-cam, I’ve already watched nearly every dhmis reaction of the TH-cam series and the full tv show so I’m running out of dhmis reaction videos, the TV show please consider it sirs, it’s seriously the best piece of media, I actually been trying to set myself up to get in a freak action that will cause brain damage so that I lose all memory and can rewatch all the dhmis Videos again. ❤❤
please watch through tv show!
From a viewpoint, DHMIS seems to take that childlike innocence and ruin it;
Get Creative - When making something; this can be like a story, art, music, etc, the way that people make it can depend on however old you are, even an adult. When they got older, the crafts they made were more dark and inhumane.
Time - While time IS confirmed an illusional concept, we WILL "run out of it" eventually as life continues. 40 million people struggle with Anxiety, while there's many other people who suffer from Death Anxiety, including me. Cognitive therapy and prescribed medication can treat both greatly. It's also important that the more you look at Death in a good way, for example, not feeling anymore pain or suffering, you will enjoy Life more while you still have it.
Love - This one was a toughy because I'm not sure if this was targeted towards today's Religions or straight up cults. Both, however, are pretty dark, if you look deep in enough. Many people have their beliefs, and sometimes it can end up just like what you saw, a sinister cult who wants to indoctrinate you into their beliefs and outright insanity.
Technology - While I know a lot on computer science, I'm unsure what this one was supposed to lead towards. A lot of people have said how it tells how addicting and unhealthy the media can be, even though there's so much it can do for us now. Still, it's not a bad idea to touch some grass now and then.
Health - Following media, there's plenty of people who will try to tell you to "eat this, you'll live longer", or "this food is actually healthy for your heart". Nobody is really sure on what foods are considered to be good for your body at all because of this dilemma. It's best to stick with the Food Pyramid.
Dreams - This one hit me. Despite how short the song was, the video still gave a lot of impact on how we see things in our dreams and also in the real world. Dreams can be about anything, but they're just dreams that most likely will never come true, whilst in the real world, everything is basically boring life in an average adult's job. Adults who have been brainwashed in that society claim songs and childish stuff to be boring, while kids think the opposite.
guys pls also watch matpat theory on dont hug me im scared theres so much to unpack here this show has so much lore great reaction i must say myself
When you feel the need to comment, just PAUSE THE VIDEO!!! You kept talking over the video and missed a lot of stuff
Watch tv series
I can understand cutting around and muting parts of TV shows cause of DMCA, but these are just TH-cam videos... do they really think their audience is that stupid?
The computer song is copyrighted and blocked the video in certain regions so had to be edited so that all could see the video 👍
You do know thats what their trying to do , dont you , have you noticed that normal harmless fantasy in the childrens section has changed to more disturbing occultism , trying to come off looking cute .
Yep , definately subvertive , in an innoscent package.