Thank you this seems to be the most simple one satrightfoward. Saw a way to just put a rock under the frame but I rather have better feet so I will definitely try this. I'm going camping on a beach this weekend need to figure this out lol.
Once again simple has won again! I would have never had thought that! This is going to work for so many camping and other outdoors applications. Mark you really are thee inverter to make things simple and easy.
Brilliant idea! Not only prevents from sinking on unstable ground, but also stabilizes better with wider contact surfaces that those chairs can become wobbly even on solid ground. Thanks for sharing your simple yet effective solution!
Ive been looking for a simple resolution to this problem. Im going to purchase some practice golf balls - the oversized plastic ones with the holes in and drill a hole in them. Thanks for the inspiration!!
I watch nearly all of your videos eventually and usually don't comment, but I will this time. I really enjoy your videos because you're willing spend the money for quality items when you need them, but them come up with the hacks to make them better on the cheap. AND THEN you share them with us! Keep up the great content!
I own one of these chairs. Much like yours, mine is the cheaper house brand of a large sporting goods store. The first time I used it was at an open air Blues Music festival in Madison, Indiana..... right after a morning of torrential rain! I assembled my chair, sat my 190 pound butt into it and fell over backwards as the rear feet sank 4 inches into the dirt. I'm in my late 60's and that is not a good outcome when you're just tryin' to have a seat and it is especially unenjoyable when the ground is soaking wet. By the time I got up, I was a mess. It's refreshing to see you addressing this defect in this style chair. Since I bought mine, I've seen many of them recommended by camping/outdoor gear reviewers on TH-cam, many of whom I have mad respect for their integrity, and I have pointed out this problem and suggested that they explore/expose it and none of them have, so kudos to you, sir. I took the common route that many "seniors" use to make their walkers easier to use....I put tennis balls on each foot. They stay on and are still small enough to fit into the travel sack that came with my chair.
You looked so comfortable when you first got that chair, that I went and bought one myself Mark. I haven't used it yet, so I appreciate the heads-up on the sinking! Neat solution too :)
Wow and wow what a great and easy solution to a problem that plagues so many of us, especially heavier folk Oh your presentation was also great. Thanks for sharing
a very elegant solution! ernie (paleohiker) had the same problem and was kindly sent some feet from a company that makes and sells them for $20. yours are much better for several reasons! thanks for sharing. neil :)
Excellent idea and execution! Love it! I always appreciate good engineering. I made a ground sheet out of lightweight ripstop nylon cloth, sewing the corners, at 1 oz.
NIFTY IDEA & SOLID! Here's a couple of other suggestions 😎: 1 - Eat four Happy Yak meals / keep bags / place under chair feet. 2 - Find old wool blanket / sew four socks / place on chair feet. 3 - Test stick stove / dis-assemble sides / place under chair feet. 4 - Visit dollar store / buy four random doo-hickeys / work your magic! Have fun out there 👍
Love the suggestions Paul. I am, sure I have a box of doo-hickeys I could find somethin in and of course, I have more than enough stick stoves to use. Thanks for commenting
I just bought one of the Helinox chairs for backpacking, but didn't want to fork out a bunch for the little piece of fabric. I really like your idea there and will make something similar. Thanks for the video!
Mark super idea... A lot like shoe shoes for your camp chair. Although for snow you'd probably have to also have rolled up plastic or something to hold all back.
I’ve sawed 4 pieces of one piece of pine wood I processed and whittled about the same diameter hole into 4 about 3”x3” halved pieces that already have the concave shape and it worked relatively well. Yours probably works better but it was a great bushcraft solution for when I forgot my footprint.
Mark, I hang my chair from trees: It's called a hammock. 😉 I do long hikes whenever I can, and with a hammock, the only time I miss having a good seat is next to a campfire. Since I usually hike alone, I don't often go to the trouble of building a fire. Once I hit the age of 70 I might slow down enough to more fully enjoy short trips to previously visited sites along the Appalachian Trail and other trails. I will likely carry a camp chair, fly fishing rod, etc. I appreciate your ingenuity and resourcefulness. Utilizing whatever is on hand to fix problems is what marks pioneers in many fields (and the woods, apparently, as well!). Thanks again!
I love sitting in a hammock as well but as you say, hard to get them close to the fire. My hammock chair is a bit easier to set up as long as I van find a few sticks. Yes, as I get older I like my comfort more and more. This is one of those luxuries I have come to appreciate
Morning, Mark ; Great That You Found An Affordable Pack Chair, I will sure have a search for this 1 Love The Feet You Made For This, They Work Very Well, Thanks, Have A Swell Day, Friend ! ATB T God Bless
I have the same design...but i use the inner tube of a bicycle tire. About the same size as yours. It has more grip, doesnt slide like plastic, doesnt sink on sand and soft enough to not rip a hole or tear the tent flooring. Added bonus since rubber is soft it just folds together when stored in the bag so i never take it off.
As soon as I saw the video posted, I was all set to write and ask if you had advice on getting a cheaper chair. They're great, but so dam expensive! So thanks for the tip. As for the chair, if they just made the legs like a lawn or beach chair, with each pair of legs connected, we wouldn't have this problem, and it's annoying companies will make something with so little thought put into them. Not like having portable chairs is something new. You're idea is simple, light and cheap. Can't think of anything better off hand, but if I do, I'll get back to you.
I also am considering making a set of cross-straps with nylon webbing that would go to the four feet. May be good to keep the legs from spreading too far. Thanks for commenting Jim
I use two long pvc tubes that extend 1 inch on each side. Each length piece has 2 holes (1 holes at each end). It packs easily in the chair bag. Some people use tennis balls with a hole in it😉
Beautifully simple idea, thanks for the inspiration! I've been thinking of using scraps of 2x4 lumber and experimenting with hole size and location to control that final angle and grab the chair feet lightly as your design does. The difference is that little wood blocks will float if I drop them out of the storage bag during water travel somehow. I was also thinking that I want to tie the blocks together - either in a square or 'X' pattern to control the spreading effect that happens when you put your weight into the chair. The legs will last so much longer if they're loaded axially (i.e. along their length, like a table leg) as opposed to laterally (like a floor joist). Loved your solution though! Will definitely give it a shot 👍
Awesome idea Mark, like the light weight aspect. I bought the tennis ball foot covers at our fav store (Dollar Store). lol They are a bit bulky but still fit in the bag with the chair. I find they work very well on the forest floor and just ok in sand. I think the ground sheet is the way to go for sand but darn they are expensive for what they are. However, if I did a lot of sitting on sand, would invest. Thanks for sharing. :) :)
Nice! Reminds me of those furniture coasters that go under the feet of furniture to avoid putting holes in carpets or scratching up floors. Have to check the Dollarama store to see what they have. One should be able to get these quite cheaply. Thank you, Mark!
Great idea. Even though I already own one of these inexpensive chairs I just bought another because it included 4 feet that pop onto the chair. They work quite well but I'm sure I will end up losing one. Now I know how to make replacements. I wonder if I can use your technique with a heavier plastic bottle. Something like a shampoo or cleanser bottle that is about the same diameter as your pipe. I always have a box of what my wife calls junk, for creating such projects. Keeps me out of trouble and saves me $$$$. Thanks Mark.
I found that using tennis balls cut in half, or buying a pkg of 4 tennis balls from dollarama.. the ones they sell for children's classroom chairs, to put on the feet to silence the noise of the chairs sliding...works amazingly!!
Mule tape, used by electrician's to pull large cables through conduit, would work excellent. They buy it in large rolls, so asking for a few feet, I'm sure they would share.
I had a leg on one of those three-legged stools suddenly sink about 6" into pine duff once. I had to dig down to retrieve the leg cap, which pulled off when I extricated the stool. Nice idea, Mark. (Interesting choice of colour for your logo, North wind.)
I use two lengths of 25mm aluminium pipe with holes cut through one face for the legs. Works great, even on wet muddy ground and weighs just a few grammes.
Great idea, I haven't even though about it since I do Most of cooking and barely have a chance to sit down for more than 10 minutes, maybe I will do the same since it only take Minutes to make,👍👍👍
I hear what you are saying. Camp chores take a lot of time. That is why I don't want to deal with my chair sinking when sit down. Thanks for commenting
I have snow baskets for old hiking poles that have since died. I’m wondering if those might work too? I’ve been thinking of getting on of those light weight chairs. I have friends with those and I love the idea of having a lightweight chair for the trail as well as at camp. Of course I have plenty of those folding beach/camp chairs that are huge and heavy. Or are bulky. Thanks for the idea. Your solution looks simple enough to do. Thanks for posting.
Trekology offer a mat for the bottom and I got it. A godsend. It's not JUST about the feet sinking in it's about non-level terrain (very common in Scottish hills). Having a mat the 4 lets go into sets a structure up, some rigidity, and it stops one leg from going skew and taking all the weight.
Yes, I like that about the mats. I also considered making an X with nylon webbing and pockets on the ends for the same reason. May do that yet. Thanks for commenting
Great Idea indeed, thank you. I bought a pack of two similar chairs by Sportneer (Amazon) this summer at a real cheap price, but due to the lockdown haven´t used them yet. But the Helinox ground sheet gave me an Idea too. How about a strip of 5cm Cordura with big enough eyelets on the ends that hook up from back to front? The eyelet would not be as big as the end tip as so the tip goes throught it, just big enough for half the tip to fit in so it dosent move. Or, have the eyelet big enough to go through it so you can give it a wrap under the leg tip. That would be 2 strips, one for each side. Obviously your solution is alot easier but one could also use those two strips to tie a ground sheet/tarp etc. under there haversack maybe? A fun practise to come up with ideas, again thank you. Love your channel BTW 🏕
Maybe you can use 4 small plastic or metal containers that go inside each other as a kit and put the legs on them, in an emergency you can use it for a variety of other uses, in any case thanks for sharing a great idea
I bought a pack of bowl shaped plastic food containers that hold about one cup. (Don't need the lids.) Super cheap! You can partially fill them with sand or pebbles to reduce the risk of them cracking if you are on sand or use 2 stacked together under each leg of the chair. Since they all stack together they will fit in one end of the bag the chair comes in. (But make sure you get the legs mostly on the same level. I had my back two on higher ground and it caused one leg to break where it joins the chair.)
Great solution. I am now considering how I can make something that connect all four legs at the foot ends to help with keeping them from spreading too far as well as from sinking. Thanks for commenting
This is a very nice creative solution that you’ve come up with. I don’t have any suggestions, but my thoughts are more centered around how to use the chair inside of my tent without poking holes in the ground sheet. Do you suppose the sharp edges of the PVC could be smoothed out enough to avoid cutting into the ground sheet material?
Yes, it would be easy to soften the edges of the PVC and even curl them up a bit. You could also use tennis balls with an X cut in them to slid over the ends of the chairs. Thanks for commenting
I was thinking about cutting a hole in some tennis balls. I often see them on chair legs in schools here, presumably to protect the flooring and keep noise down. These look better in that they'll pack up much smaller. EDIT: if I had thought to read the comments before posting, I would've noticed that tennis balls aren't such an original idea.
I first saw tennis balls being used in schools many years ago to quite the noise of moving chairs. I thought about using them for this purpose but they can get really messy in wet areas. Thanks for commenting
Motorcycle riders suffer this all the time with their side stand and grass. They have numerous solutions. But for a ready to use thing, a 2mm to 5 mm plastic shim some PVC end caps and so on and so forth.
Tennis balls. Cut a smallish X in the top for the end of the chair leg to go in. They might sink slightly more than your PVC pipe invention, but are a little easier to make.
@@charleshalsey548 Hard to say about long term durability. I have a number of knife sheaths and axe masks made from this material that are lasting well (videos on them). The sheaths and masks work well in winter. Likely won't need the chair feet once the ground freezes up. Would be interesting to see if it will keep me on to of the snow...unlikely though
@@MarkYoungBushcraft as an improvised field method I could see using a split log or branch with the flat side down and notches cut on the rounded side for the legs or modifying snow shoes with place to secure the chair legs in the webbing.
Very cool Mark. Im very familiar with that sinking feeling. Since you asked I bought a set of these and they are fantastic. Not cheap but works like a charm. Www.chairbuddies.com made in UK.
I'm imagining it sliding behind a reindeer... It's amazing how you come up ideas using what you already have. That's awesome!!!
Love it😃. With a good dog sled team I should be able to get to my camping spot in half the time. Thanks for commenting
Damn mark, that's the simplest & most light weight option I could ever imagine! Perfect, Thx!
The best kind of idea. Thanks for commenting
Thank you this seems to be the most simple one satrightfoward. Saw a way to just put a rock under the frame but I rather have better feet so I will definitely try this. I'm going camping on a beach this weekend need to figure this out lol.
Works well for me. Thanks for commenting
Once again simple has won again! I would have never had thought that! This is going to work for so many camping and other outdoors applications. Mark you really are thee inverter to make things simple and easy.
Thank you for the kind words
Brilliant idea!
Not only prevents from sinking on unstable ground, but also stabilizes better with wider contact surfaces that those chairs can become wobbly even on solid ground. Thanks for sharing your simple yet effective solution!
Yes, you are right. Thanks for commenting
Ive been looking for a simple resolution to this problem. Im going to purchase some practice golf balls - the oversized plastic ones with the holes in and drill a hole in them. Thanks for the inspiration!!
Glad I could help. Thanks for commenting
I watch nearly all of your videos eventually and usually don't comment, but I will this time. I really enjoy your videos because you're willing spend the money for quality items when you need them, but them come up with the hacks to make them better on the cheap. AND THEN you share them with us! Keep up the great content!
Thanks for your kind words. Sometimes I can't leave well enough alone I guess😉
I own one of these chairs. Much like yours, mine is the cheaper house brand of a large sporting goods store. The first time I used it was at an open air Blues Music festival in Madison, Indiana..... right after a morning of torrential rain! I assembled my chair, sat my 190 pound butt into it and fell over backwards as the rear feet sank 4 inches into the dirt. I'm in my late 60's and that is not a good outcome when you're just tryin' to have a seat and it is especially unenjoyable when the ground is soaking wet. By the time I got up, I was a mess. It's refreshing to see you addressing this defect in this style chair. Since I bought mine, I've seen many of them recommended by camping/outdoor gear reviewers on TH-cam, many of whom I have mad respect for their integrity, and I have pointed out this problem and suggested that they explore/expose it and none of them have, so kudos to you, sir. I took the common route that many "seniors" use to make their walkers easier to use....I put tennis balls on each foot. They stay on and are still small enough to fit into the travel sack that came with my chair.
A chair like this is a welcome comfort for those of us reaching "vintage" age. Tennis balls work great. Thanks for commenting
Cheap, simple, easy to make.
Great job
Thanks for sharing
The best kind of hacks. Thanks for commenting
Great idea, Sir !!!
Keep up the great work !!!
Glad you liked it. Thanks for commenting
You looked so comfortable when you first got that chair, that I went and bought one myself Mark. I haven't used it yet, so I appreciate the heads-up on the sinking! Neat solution too :)
Hope you enjoy it! Thanks for commenting
Clever idea Mark. Thx!
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Great idea Mark!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting
Wow and wow what a great and easy solution to a problem that plagues so many of us, especially heavier folk
Oh your presentation was also great.
Thanks for sharing
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting
a very elegant solution! ernie (paleohiker) had the same problem and was kindly sent some feet from a company that makes and sells them for $20. yours are much better for several reasons! thanks for sharing.
neil :)
I did see the chair buddies but was looking to make something cheaper. Thanks for commenting
Excellent idea and execution! Love it!
I always appreciate good engineering.
I made a ground sheet out of lightweight ripstop nylon cloth, sewing the corners, at 1 oz.
Love the idea. Have been considering doing something similar. Thanks for commenting
Very simple and clever. We've used tennis balls but these would be much easier to clean and keep clean. Great idea.
Tennis balls work as well but I think this is just a bit better. Thanks for commenting
NIFTY IDEA & SOLID! Here's a couple of other suggestions 😎:
1 - Eat four Happy Yak meals / keep bags / place under chair feet.
2 - Find old wool blanket / sew four socks / place on chair feet.
3 - Test stick stove / dis-assemble sides / place under chair feet.
4 - Visit dollar store / buy four random doo-hickeys / work your magic!
Have fun out there 👍
Love the suggestions Paul. I am, sure I have a box of doo-hickeys I could find somethin in and of course, I have more than enough stick stoves to use. Thanks for commenting
I just bought one of the Helinox chairs for backpacking, but didn't want to fork out a bunch for the little piece of fabric. I really like your idea there and will make something similar. Thanks for the video!
Glad you found it helpful. Thanks for commenting
A very creative and intelligent solution to a very common problem. Thank you.
Mostly a cheap and easy solution😅Thanks for commenting
That's exactly what I'm looking for. Great solution.
Glad it helped. Thanks for commenting
Great video Mark. The chair footprint works well in damp soil as well but is ideal in sand.
Yes, it would be better in sand than my idea. Thanks for commenting
Great idea and thank you for letting me know what you did.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting
Mark super idea... A lot like shoe shoes for your camp chair. Although for snow you'd probably have to also have rolled up plastic or something to hold all back.
Still need to work out what to do for snow. I may have to shovel down to frozen ground. Thanks for commenting
Great idea, thanks for sharing!
You are so welcome! Thanks for commenting
Great innovation.Thanks Mark
Glad you liked it! Thanks for commenting
I’ve sawed 4 pieces of one piece of pine wood I processed and whittled about the same diameter hole into 4 about 3”x3” halved pieces that already have the concave shape and it worked relatively well. Yours probably works better but it was a great bushcraft solution for when I forgot my footprint.
Very clever improvisation. Thanks for commenting
Great idea Mark, I have a similar chair but mine is a high back. That's going to keep me from always tipping over. Cheers my friend!
Glad to help😊 Thanks for commenting
Mark, I hang my chair from trees: It's called a hammock. 😉 I do long hikes whenever I can, and with a hammock, the only time I miss having a good seat is next to a campfire. Since I usually hike alone, I don't often go to the trouble of building a fire. Once I hit the age of 70 I might slow down enough to more fully enjoy short trips to previously visited sites along the Appalachian Trail and other trails. I will likely carry a camp chair, fly fishing rod, etc. I appreciate your ingenuity and resourcefulness. Utilizing whatever is on hand to fix problems is what marks pioneers in many fields (and the woods, apparently, as well!). Thanks again!
I love sitting in a hammock as well but as you say, hard to get them close to the fire. My hammock chair is a bit easier to set up as long as I van find a few sticks. Yes, as I get older I like my comfort more and more. This is one of those luxuries I have come to appreciate
Morning, Mark ; Great That You Found An Affordable Pack Chair, I will sure have a search for this 1 Love The Feet You Made For This, They Work Very Well, Thanks, Have A Swell Day, Friend ! ATB T God Bless
Hey Terry. I can't find a link to this exact chair anymore but I am sure their are similar ones out there. Thanks for commenting
Love ur ideas!!
Thank you! 😊
I have the same design...but i use the inner tube of a bicycle tire. About the same size as yours. It has more grip, doesnt slide like plastic, doesnt sink on sand and soft enough to not rip a hole or tear the tent flooring. Added bonus since rubber is soft it just folds together when stored in the bag so i never take it off.
Great idea. I need try this. Thanks for commenting
As soon as I saw the video posted, I was all set to write and ask if you had advice on getting a cheaper chair. They're great, but so dam expensive! So thanks for the tip.
As for the chair, if they just made the legs like a lawn or beach chair, with each pair of legs connected, we wouldn't have this problem, and it's annoying companies will make something with so little thought put into them. Not like having portable chairs is something new. You're idea is simple, light and cheap. Can't think of anything better off hand, but if I do, I'll get back to you.
I also am considering making a set of cross-straps with nylon webbing that would go to the four feet. May be good to keep the legs from spreading too far. Thanks for commenting Jim
I use two long pvc tubes that extend 1 inch on each side. Each length piece has 2 holes (1 holes at each end). It packs easily in the chair bag. Some people use tennis balls with a hole in it😉
I have considered the PVC pipe idea as well. Another viewer uses an aluminum pipe for that. Thanks for commenting
A square of indoor outdoor carpeting..like in a bassboat, works well. Just lay the carpet down and place the chair on it. Roll it up for transport.
Great suggestion. Thanks for commenting
Beautifully simple idea, thanks for the inspiration!
I've been thinking of using scraps of 2x4 lumber and experimenting with hole size and location to control that final angle and grab the chair feet lightly as your design does. The difference is that little wood blocks will float if I drop them out of the storage bag during water travel somehow.
I was also thinking that I want to tie the blocks together - either in a square or 'X' pattern to control the spreading effect that happens when you put your weight into the chair. The legs will last so much longer if they're loaded axially (i.e. along their length, like a table leg) as opposed to laterally (like a floor joist).
Loved your solution though! Will definitely give it a shot 👍
Glad you found it helpful. Thanks for commenting
Rebar end caps work well if you do not want to make Mark's excellent fix. I wish I could find where that was first suggested to me.
Interesting idea. I will have to look around for a source. Thanks for commenting
Awesome idea Mark, like the light weight aspect. I bought the tennis ball foot covers at our fav store (Dollar Store). lol They are a bit bulky but still fit in the bag with the chair. I find they work very well on the forest floor and just ok in sand. I think the ground sheet is the way to go for sand but darn they are expensive for what they are. However, if I did a lot of sitting on sand, would invest. Thanks for sharing. :) :)
I may make the ground sheet yet. Just because it does look better for sand. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Will look forward to that DIY video! :)
Great idea!
Glad you think so! Thanks for commenting
Nice! Reminds me of those furniture coasters that go under the feet of furniture to avoid putting holes in carpets or scratching up floors. Have to check the Dollarama store to see what they have. One should be able to get these quite cheaply. Thank you, Mark!
I considered those as well (may still look at them) I was thinking they may not be wide enough. Thanks for commenting
The ones I have access to are either square or round, 2 to 3 inches wide, made of metal or rubber or polymer; smooth or round bottomed.
I have been using the easiest and cheapest of solutions for my chair..... I am using the lids from 16 0unce Planter's Peanut jars.
Great idea. The peanuts are a bonus as well. Thanks for commenting
Great idea Mark!👍
Glad you enjoyed it Wade. Missing your videos buddy
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thanks Mark, I'll be good as new soon!
@@Woodswalker1965 : Good to see your still around Wade
Trekology Sand cover £10+ last year is now £14+ so I shall give your idea a go.
Simple, inexpensive, effective.
Great, thanks for sharing.
Take care
The best ideas are simple and cheap. Thanks for commenting
Great idea. Even though I already own one of these inexpensive chairs I just bought another because it included 4 feet that pop onto the chair. They work quite well but I'm sure I will end up losing one. Now I know how to make replacements. I wonder if I can use your technique with a heavier plastic bottle. Something like a shampoo or cleanser bottle that is about the same diameter as your pipe. I always have a box of what my wife calls junk, for creating such projects. Keeps me out of trouble and saves me $$$$. Thanks Mark.
The shampoo bottle is a clever idea. Thanks for commenting
Great hack Mark, I’ll have to see what kind of pvc I have available in the shop.
Right on. Even better when you use stuff you have laying around. Thanks for commenting
I found that using tennis balls cut in half, or buying a pkg of 4 tennis balls from dollarama.. the ones they sell for children's classroom chairs, to put on the feet to silence the noise of the chairs sliding...works amazingly!!
Yes, tennis balls work well. I thought this may be a bit better. Thanks for commenting
Awesome 😎👍. Good ole pvc
So many uses...Kind of like Duct tape. Thanks for commenting Randal
Nice idea Mark .. Ive got those type of chairs n all use is 4 tennis balls slipped over the legs of course you need a hole in the ball works for me.
Yes, tennis balls work as well. I find this works just a bit better. Thanks for commenting
Years ago a buddy of mine used to just shove Beveridge cans over the legs to keep them from sinking into the beach...
Very clever...four beer and you are all set😅. Thanks for commenting
My suggestion is to link the pads with 40 mm nylon straps, either fore and aft or side to side, to increase the area of contact with the ground.
Mule tape, used by electrician's to pull large cables through conduit, would work excellent. They buy it in large rolls, so asking for a few feet, I'm sure they would share.
That is one of the ideas I have been considering as a more effective solution. Thanks for commenting
Gold ! Thanks @Mark
Glad you liked it. Thanks for commenting
We kayak and like to sit at the water and most of the time it's sand and have lost the odd part, great idea and will definitely do this thanks.
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for commenting
I like it. Good lightweight solution.
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Awesome!!
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I had a leg on one of those three-legged stools suddenly sink about 6" into pine duff once. I had to dig down to retrieve the leg cap, which pulled off when I extricated the stool. Nice idea, Mark. (Interesting choice of colour for your logo, North wind.)
I have one of the 3-legs stools. Easy to use but I never found it as comfortable as these little chairs. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Yeah. They're basically a light-weight stump (broken tree, not cut off flat). I don't think I've even used it since that trip.
I use two lengths of 25mm aluminium pipe with holes cut through one face for the legs. Works great, even on wet muddy ground and weighs just a few grammes.
I had thought of doing that with the PVC but an aluminum pipe would be better. Thanks for commenting
Brilliant!
Glad you liked it. Thanks for commenting
Great idea, I haven't even though about it since I do Most of cooking and barely have a chance to sit down for more than 10 minutes, maybe I will do the same since it only take Minutes to make,👍👍👍
I hear what you are saying. Camp chores take a lot of time. That is why I don't want to deal with my chair sinking when sit down. Thanks for commenting
That’s pretty clever
Glad you liked it. Thanks for commenting
I have snow baskets for old hiking poles that have since died. I’m wondering if those might work too? I’ve been thinking of getting on of those light weight chairs. I have friends with those and I love the idea of having a lightweight chair for the trail as well as at camp. Of course I have plenty of those folding beach/camp chairs that are huge and heavy. Or are bulky. Thanks for the idea. Your solution looks simple enough to do. Thanks for posting.
I did try the baskets from my hiking poles but the holes were too small. Other types might work though. Thanks for commenting
Trekology offer a mat for the bottom and I got it. A godsend. It's not JUST about the feet sinking in it's about non-level terrain (very common in Scottish hills). Having a mat the 4 lets go into sets a structure up, some rigidity, and it stops one leg from going skew and taking all the weight.
Yes, I like that about the mats. I also considered making an X with nylon webbing and pockets on the ends for the same reason. May do that yet. Thanks for commenting
Hi l have the mats but l also just got 4 old tennis balls cut a hole in (cutting a cross) it and that works very well. Regards Barrie
The tennis balls work as well. I think this may just be a bit better. Thanks for commenting Barrie
Thank you!
You're welcome!
I put pingpong balls on mine and taped them with duct tape. Still works after a couple of years😂
Sounds good. Thanks for commenting
Great Idea indeed, thank you. I bought a pack of two similar chairs by Sportneer (Amazon) this summer at a real cheap price, but due to the lockdown haven´t used them yet. But the Helinox ground sheet gave me an Idea too. How about a strip of 5cm Cordura with big enough eyelets on the ends that hook up from back to front? The eyelet would not be as big as the end tip as so the tip goes throught it, just big enough for half the tip to fit in so it dosent move. Or, have the eyelet big enough to go through it so you can give it a wrap under the leg tip. That would be 2 strips, one for each side. Obviously your solution is alot easier but one could also use those two strips to tie a ground sheet/tarp etc. under there haversack maybe? A fun practise to come up with ideas, again thank you. Love your channel BTW 🏕
Your ground sheet idea sounds great. I may make one yet. Thanks for commenting
Very good
Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft yvw subbed too
Maybe you can use 4 small plastic or metal containers that go inside each other as a kit and put the legs on them, in an emergency you can use it for a variety of other uses, in any case thanks for sharing a great idea
Great suggestion. I am thinking little stacking cups. Thanks for commenting
I bought a pack of bowl shaped plastic food containers that hold about one cup. (Don't need the lids.) Super cheap! You can partially fill them with sand or pebbles to reduce the risk of them cracking if you are on sand or use 2 stacked together under each leg of the chair. Since they all stack together they will fit in one end of the bag the chair comes in. (But make sure you get the legs mostly on the same level. I had my back two on higher ground and it caused one leg to break where it joins the chair.)
Great solution. I am now considering how I can make something that connect all four legs at the foot ends to help with keeping them from spreading too far as well as from sinking. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Did you see this one? It is also very cool! (I love all the innovation!): th-cam.com/video/7MWVL8WVds0/w-d-xo.html
This is a very nice creative solution that you’ve come up with. I don’t have any suggestions, but my thoughts are more centered around how to use the chair inside of my tent without poking holes in the ground sheet. Do you suppose the sharp edges of the PVC could be smoothed out enough to avoid cutting into the ground sheet material?
Yes, it would be easy to soften the edges of the PVC and even curl them up a bit. You could also use tennis balls with an X cut in them to slid over the ends of the chairs. Thanks for commenting
I like those, nicely done. Have you tried them on snow? Any idea the weight for the four?
Just got back from a trip. The feet weighed 99grams. Thanks for commenting
awesome idea....I'd consider a piece of rubber for grip on the bottom...
Good suggestion. Thanks for commenting
Brilliant idea, the shop bought version is 40$🇨🇦
I didn't pay that much for the chair😅. Thanks for commenting
Using the wide tips for trekking poles could be another idea
I did try the baskets from my trekking poles but the holes were too small. Another type might work. Thanks for commenting
I was thinking about cutting a hole in some tennis balls. I often see them on chair legs in schools here, presumably to protect the flooring and keep noise down.
These look better in that they'll pack up much smaller.
EDIT: if I had thought to read the comments before posting, I would've noticed that tennis balls aren't such an original idea.
I first saw tennis balls being used in schools many years ago to quite the noise of moving chairs. I thought about using them for this purpose but they can get really messy in wet areas. Thanks for commenting
Motorcycle riders suffer this all the time with their side stand and grass. They have numerous solutions. But for a ready to use thing, a 2mm to 5 mm plastic shim some PVC end caps and so on and so forth.
Right on. Good suggestions. Thanks for commenting
Why they don't make the foot extender to put on the 4 feets so can make it higher to sit on?
Interesting idea. Will consider how I can do that. Thanks for commenting
Cannot Find This Chair ? Any Chance On A Link For This, Mark , Thanks ! ATB T God Bless
I checked Atmosphere and it looks like they no longer have it. A friend has the Trekology and likes it
Tennis balls. Cut a smallish X in the top for the end of the chair leg to go in. They might sink slightly more than your PVC pipe invention, but are a little easier to make.
Yes, tennis balls work well. I thought this may be a bit better. Thanks for commenting
Try Ducktape 2 Layers, connect the Feets over Cross, and thats it should be ok
Duct tape to the rescue. I have considered a version of that using nylon webbing. I may do that yet. Thanks for commenting
I've seen cut tennis balls used on far north bushcraft and survival
They work as well. I find this is just a bit better. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft A+ on the creativity and usage of materials, but how durable is that material, especially in colder conditions?
@@charleshalsey548 Hard to say about long term durability. I have a number of knife sheaths and axe masks made from this material that are lasting well (videos on them). The sheaths and masks work well in winter. Likely won't need the chair feet once the ground freezes up. Would be interesting to see if it will keep me on to of the snow...unlikely though
@@MarkYoungBushcraft as an improvised field method I could see using a split log or branch with the flat side down and notches cut on the rounded side for the legs or modifying snow shoes with place to secure the chair legs in the webbing.
still easier to use the empty beer cans ;)
I suppose so. Thanks for commenting😉
Boiling water will soften the PVC enough to work
I will give that a try. Thanks for commenting
Kenya chairs won't sink into the ground. You might need bearers though.
Maybe I could make a bushcraft version🤔. Thanks for commenting
Maybe because I'm a product designer, but you could have used a smaller pipe and cleaned up the edges with a file.
Possibly! Thanks for commenting
Tennis balls?
Yes, they work well but I felt this would work a bit better. Thanks for commenting
Only the back two needed
Thanks for commenting
Bulky
Thanks for commenting
I put a piece of log under my chair and problem solved.
Yes, that would work. Thanks for commenting
Next step ..make a footstool for your chair "
Sounds like a plan. Thanks for commenting
For a 240 pound person, that’s less than 7 psi.
Very interesting. Thank you for sharing
Very cool Mark. Im very familiar with that sinking feeling. Since you asked I bought a set of these and they are fantastic. Not cheap but works like a charm. Www.chairbuddies.com made in UK.
I have seen those but they cost more than what I paid for the chair. Thanks for commenting
Loose some weight…..lol
I did. 45lbs🙃
Great idea Mark!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting