I will try this, but one question. It is not clear from the online information or various videos, whether the chemicals are re-used or used only once per roll. If the kit gives 2l of working solution, is it assumed that each roll of 35mm film will need 250mls in a standard paterson tank, and not be re-used? Or are the used chemicals put back in the stock bottle and reused for 8 total rolls? This is important as I would like to try with 120 medium format film also (such as the Rollei), but those tanks need 600 mls so if not reusable that is a lot of chemicals gone. Thanks!
I saw your video and gave it a try. It works fine on the Scala 50. CMS20 II does not develop well. Failed 3 times already. As stated in the product description, the first development is supposed to take 12 minutes at 24°C. Is it really possible to do reversal development with CMS20?
Any film will reversal process but we do not support other films. So while it is theoretically possible finding the right dilutions and times is challenging and costly. To tweak the process to Scala 50 took us a year. So you can try this but results might be not optimal.
@@dustinlenz2955 Ilford says PanF Plus and to a lesser extent FP4 plus, and Delta 100 Pro can all be developed as positives with good results, and all 3 of those come in 120 film
concerning clearbath: I forgot the clearbath after bleaching and did it after re-exposing. I guess the problem was due the yellow staining the light could not reach all parts of the film, so there was no "re-exposure". result: most of the film was useless, sadly :-( So DON'T FORGET THE CLEARBATH!
Its not different from any other black and white process. The only difference would be that you cannot increase the temperature above 26°C while shortening the time due to the emulsion softening done by the bleach. So regular care in temperature control to keep everything after first development between 18 and 22 degress and spot on with the first development. If necessary use a water bath.
What is the advantages of making a negative a positive? I might be able to see some uses for LF (8x10 and larger) but the benefits for 35mm are escaping me.
The main advantage for making 35mm B&W positives would be for projecting using a 35mm slide projector, just like color slide film (E-6). Slide/reversal film was meant to be projected. But if you don't want to project it, I guess it doesn't have much use.
Ich sah schon eine Menge beschissener Videos über den Prozess, aber wenn der Hersteller selbst nicht imstande ist Video ohne eine Menge Fehler zu machen ...
@@liberealistic9964 Werde ich dafür bezahlt dumme Großmäuler, wie Sie, aufzuklären? Es fängt schon damit an, daß nichts davon gesagt wird, welche Filme einen kristallklaren Träger haben. Dann rührt die Tätovierte mit dem Thermometer. Und es geht weiter, ich schaue mir jetzt nicht das ganze Video an. Sie können gerne ihr Geld bei Adox investieren. Ich mache das nicht, zumindest nicht für dieses Produkt.
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Can't wait, cinestill US finally had some in stock!
Thank you for this video, i use too Rollei retro 400 s !
I will try this, but one question. It is not clear from the online information or various videos, whether the chemicals are re-used or used only once per roll. If the kit gives 2l of working solution, is it assumed that each roll of 35mm film will need 250mls in a standard paterson tank, and not be re-used? Or are the used chemicals put back in the stock bottle and reused for 8 total rolls? This is important as I would like to try with 120 medium format film also (such as the Rollei), but those tanks need 600 mls so if not reusable that is a lot of chemicals gone. Thanks!
I saw your video and gave it a try.
It works fine on the Scala 50.
CMS20 II does not develop well.
Failed 3 times already.
As stated in the product description, the first development is supposed to take 12 minutes at 24°C.
Is it really possible to do reversal development with CMS20?
Oh yeah! That’s what I wanted !
Hi, nice video. Can I use ADOX CMS 20 II for this process?
Thanks Lina
Could this be used with film negative such as Ilford Delta 100?
Any film will reversal process but we do not support other films. So while it is theoretically possible finding the right dilutions and times is challenging and costly. To tweak the process to Scala 50 took us a year. So you can try this but results might be not optimal.
@@fotoimpexgmbh6599 Gotcha, I just know Scala 50 doesn't come in 120mm correct? Are there any 120mm solutions?
@@dustinlenz2955 Ilford says PanF Plus and to a lesser extent FP4 plus, and Delta 100 Pro can all be developed as positives with good results, and all 3 of those come in 120 film
Does it work great on chs100ii 8x10? Is chs film base as clear as cms? Is cms available in 8x10?
What is the point using clearbath?
concerning clearbath: I forgot the clearbath after bleaching and did it after re-exposing. I guess the problem was due the yellow staining the light could not reach all parts of the film, so there was no "re-exposure". result: most of the film was useless, sadly :-( So DON'T FORGET THE CLEARBATH!
... the clearbath would have removed that yellow staining.
How strict do you have to be about the temperatures? Do you have any tips as to how to keep them constant? Thanks,
Its not different from any other black and white process. The only difference would be that you cannot increase the temperature above 26°C while shortening the time due to the emulsion softening done by the bleach. So regular care in temperature control to keep everything after first development between 18 and 22 degress and spot on with the first development. If necessary use a water bath.
What is the advantages of making a negative a positive? I might be able to see some uses for LF (8x10 and larger) but the benefits for 35mm are escaping me.
The main advantage for making 35mm B&W positives would be for projecting using a 35mm slide projector, just like color slide film (E-6).
Slide/reversal film was meant to be projected.
But if you don't want to project it, I guess it doesn't have much use.
It's something to do on the weekend
I would think projecting them old school style would be pretty amazing.
When will it be available in USA?
It's available for worldwide shipping through the Fotoimpex store! www.fotoimpex.com/chemistry/adox-scala-kit-for-bw-slide-processing.html
非常好！
Wie hoch ist die Max erreichbare Dichte beim Scala?
Mit dem Scala Kit um die 3,0
Ich sah schon eine Menge beschissener Videos über den Prozess, aber wenn der Hersteller selbst nicht imstande ist Video ohne eine Menge Fehler zu machen ...
Ach so- Sie wissen das natürlich besser als ADOX aber behalten dann schön für sich für sich was angeblich falsch dargestellt sein soll oder?
@@liberealistic9964 Werde ich dafür bezahlt dumme Großmäuler, wie Sie, aufzuklären?
Es fängt schon damit an, daß nichts davon gesagt wird, welche Filme einen kristallklaren Träger haben. Dann rührt die Tätovierte mit dem Thermometer. Und es geht weiter, ich schaue mir jetzt nicht das ganze Video an.
Sie können gerne ihr Geld bei Adox investieren. Ich mache das nicht, zumindest nicht für dieses Produkt.