Why Scientists Think Elon Musk's Mars Idea is Terrible
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ค. 2022
- Tesla and SpaceX founder, Elon Musk, seems to think he has all the answers for the future survival of humanity, and his bright idea involves nuking Mars. Check out today's insane new video to learn why this isn't such a smart plan after all.
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This is why aliens dont mess with us. Always tryna blow stuff up even if it's not our own planet
They could be more powerful though, my guy.
No no he’s right
Or, it could be because we say things like, "tryna"
LOL
@@john.wick1 ok mister grammar police 🤓
"Nukes are too weak, we must shell it with asteroids" - Humans in a nutshell.
It's more about the leftover radiation.
U ruined it
I feel like "I can't decide if I should eat a tide pod, or a$$" is more humans in a nutshell, and your comment is more government in a nutshell.
Asteroids wouldn't improve the situation either.
best.........plan..........ever
Since it would take thousands of years with current technology to terraform mars, we might as well forget about it for the time being and concentrate on not ending earth.
Another issue with the nuke mars plan is that unlike the dust of earth, the martain version called regolith, is highly abrasive and once airborn, it would make reaching the ground or to orbit if you're already on the surface, practically lethal to fly through until it had settled. Asteroids would increase this exponentially.
Besides the difference in name, Martian Regolith is the exact opposite of the contents on Earth that we call soil but forgetting about all that it may be lethal but I'm pretty sure the suits would protect you
I dont like Neil Degrasse Tyson too much but he made a great point of this. No matter what you'll have to do to terraform mars, it is so much easier to just fix this planet.
I live in Karachi Pakistan I follow your website
Regardless, it’s better to have a backup plan on Mars.
It wasn’t a let’s run from the issues on earth it was a back up plan incase something out of our control were to happen to earth. A backup for life. And getting to other planets and terraforming them makes us have to work out unique issues and in Doing so as side effects we create other neat things we’ll end up using in daily lives. I don’t care how intelligent Tyson is, by saying hey let’s never progress and expand out to explore is just ignorant.
It's not a competition, we can do both.
@@Slayr. Sure, but I'd say fixing Earth is a MUCH higher priority. Terraforming Mars is a cool long-term goal but not viable in the short-term
Not Elons idea . I don’t know who first came up with it but I first heard it over 20 years ago as a kid. Probably a lot of people have independently thought of it. People also have thought of nuking moon, asteroids and even Jupiter’s red spot…
Yea and people soon realised it's not that simple. However, for someone of Elons caliber to continue believe this should tell us he isn't as intelligent in the scientific field. He's just a good business man.
Dont tell me you don't like seeing stuff blow up tho?
Whether he came up with the idea or not is irrelevant, if you believe in an idea and you understand and support it wholeheartedly, it becomes yours. That's a fact.
The idea was brought up by Soviets back in 1969 ! They thought climate changing Mars would make it livable, however they couldn't have rockets that reached that far, thus thw hypersonic missile yet they only just discovering the negative effects with nukes, they will have to use something else to do it.
@@work90 *Con man.
It’s quite odd how many of us humans have jumped to the expensive and wacky idea of living on another planet, when we could put more resources towards staying on our OWN...
It's all politics unfortunately that's stopping progression because everything costs money
This is for the future, you have to make a start now so by the time Earth is no longer habitable or when the sun swallows us, we will hopefully be able to live on an entire different solar system. Think about how many millions of years this will all take.
Shame these resources aren’t communal
Both are quite different ideas
You do know that in a soon we'll can't live on earth since pollution and others the sun will die out
what about the radiation?
The other issue is the atmospheric pressure. We’re built to live off of about 20.5% oxygen at 14.7 psi, the lowest we can even stay conscious is about 18%.
The atmospheric pressure on the surface of Mars is about .095 psi, that’s roughly .065% of ours. Even if the atmosphere was 100% oxygen, the pressure would have to increase by almost 25 times just for the partial pressure of O2 to reach the equivalent of 16% at our sea level, the bare minimum to survive.
It would have to increase by almost 28 times to get the oxygen levels high enough to stay conscious. And these are absolute bare minimums, with absolutely nothing but oxygen in the air. With an atmosphere similar to ours, it would require a pressure increase of around 140 times what it currently is.
Crashing asteroids into the planet would help with that by increasing the overall mass of the planet, but I have a feeling that it would require a ridiculous amount of them to effect the gravity enough to reach those numbers.
What if we found a way to send Our greenhouse gases to mars? If you can trap smoke in a bag maybe we can do something similar with our air waste.
@@bulletproofkarma9480 There are a few moons that have "reasonable effort" potential.
@@Slayr. You're joking right? You want to put smoke into bags and ship it to Mars?
For one, you'd have to compress that gas in order for it to fit on spacecraft
Then it would take an insane amount of resources to ship all of it to Mars
And in the end it still wouldn't be anywhere near enough greenhouse gasses to get Mars's atmosphere close where we want it
@@Slayr. easy to say than actually doing it
@@shadowdragon3521 maybe we could build this on Mars.
Can we take a moment to appreciate this miracle that is our Earth tho?!
The 1% don't appreciate Earth, which is why they allow climate change to run rampant and block any and all action towards it.
The people should NOT build any escape space craft for the 1% if it is the last thing we do.
Like really…Tf we need mars for, this is probably how aliens view us “maybe we should blow up that whole planet and start it from scratch so it better suits our environment & way of survival”
Yep. From having the perfect magnetosphere to our perfect atmosphere, to the insane story of chemical evolution that created life in the primordial oceans, we have a crazy lucky history. I wish more people couple understand how absurdly lucky we are to exist.
The explorers becomes the dominant race.
@@TreyMan2tt well we only have 20 years left on this planet dude before we undergo total global devastation
Will the products made from those factories have 'Made in Mars' written on them?
That's actually a great advertising idea
8:05 a few mm. Seriously? That’s like saying if my umbrella was an atoms with from vertical it would not protect against rain.
The legend himself 🤠
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magnets are very different from unbrellas haha
You're a legend Mr labs!
Hey! That's just like how, if Earth's perfectly circular orbit was off by just a single inch, we'd all die. Instantly.
Since I was a little kid I’ve always been obsessed with Space. Always knew I’d get to see people go to mars. I’m 30 now and honestly I wonder if I’ll see it in my lifetime. The feats required to pull it off are insane. Just the time getting to and from is crazy. Unless there are breakthroughs in propulsion technology I don’t see it happening for a good while
I'm 30 too and I thought in my lifetime we would see it but now I'm not to sure. Hope there's recarnations of some sort lol then we will be able too 😂 I think maybe there's truth in all religions so maybe that parts right and we will be able to experience life outside this world at a massive level of beauty
By the time you are 70 maybe they will be able to extend life to 200 years and you will see it 😉
What's the point of seeing people going to Mars? It's not like you and me will go there, it's gonna be for the elite to save themselves after destroying earth.
@@pixytorres7117 because it'll be cool?
@@vanessaheslop9838 What made you think we would see it in our lifetime? I’ve been hopeful but I know that technology is distant. I’m 30 as well.
Regarding the idea of terraforming another planet to live on because we've damaged Earth's atmosphere too much. If we have the technology to terraform Mars, surely we also have the technology to terraform Earth. And surely it's easier to terraform Earth to be more Earthlike than to make Mars more Earthlike.
you are right. if we can't make Sahara desert into Sahara forest there is no point on thinking terraforming other planets
@@Zydraxis
That's the dumbest analogy i've ever heard.
Sometimes people are so smart they over think problems that have a simple solution.
We don't have the technology to terraform Earth, that is in the far future. We're already having a tough time removing greenhouse gases from Earth while Mars has hardly any, which is why adding greenhouse gasses to mars instead of earth is actually beneficial in order to make it's atmosphere livable compared to how it is currently. Most of these methods involve laying impacts onto celestial bodies. Most of which could end some amount of lives on earth, and even change our atmosphere and affect animals for the worse.
@@Slayr. but... he has a point
Low gravity is also a major issue with “living” on Mars. Venus has Earth like gravity, is closer and has a warm protective atmosphere. We could have “floating” stations in the upper atmosphere much easier than messing with Mars.
Elon has made mars hype too high, sad.
@@caesarsalad1170 Sad, but I wouldn't mind with Venus tbh ^^ I like the water, it reminds me being peaceful than messing with Mars, I even feel highly sad if I did live there just because of Elon "plans". I would feel regret for not able to live a simple, beautiful life like alien does on space
Venus has a surface temperature of 500f . That's far from warm.
Taking good care of the Earth is better than waste resources on idiotic ideas for Mars
Earth ofc need to be saved but colonizing other planets is cool. Also Earth is capable of holding like 10 bilion people and being overcrowded so other planets would be helpful for further expansion
Please give the narrator a contract extension for eternity with infinite money. His voice is calming and soothing. I preferred his voice way more than when they used to have the other guy a few years back. This guy talking makes me want to watch the videos more. Thank you infographics show for providing and informative and entertaining channel.
Imagine if all the billionaires spend the same amount of money and effort in saving the planet, we wouldn't need to go to Mars in the first place.
We still might need to go to mars due to over population
@@cheezcurdz2662 yeah but we could keep earth and have the moon too
we cant protect the earth fully either... so ye think about what happened to dinosaurs.
Well except to give the human race a chance to not all be killed at once in the event of a extinction level event. Idk something about dinosaurs and an asteroid
@@cheezcurdz2662 world population is going to be stagnant at about 10b so it really isnt a problem
I remember hearing about this interplanetary swarm idea. Kinda like drone light shows but for planets. And they are solar powered with a way to redirect that energy. Just a concept, but if it had multiple uses, that would be useful. Maybe something easy to fix (as possible) so it can stay in space once deployed, more so than even satélites
I got this idea. It might sound crazy but hear me out. Why not put all the investments and energy taking care of the Earth?
I am really scared of what humans are capable of
Friendly fire lil bro
Future martians: why are we so in debt to the earthlings?
Earth: do you know how much it cost us to bombard your planet with asteroids?
Elon was actually joking and said, nuking Mars was the "fast" way to teraform.
He didn't say it was the best way...
It's a dumb joke then, because nuking doesn't terraform a thing, not the fast or the slow way.
“Its just a joke bruh” keep telling yourselves that elon worshipers
Elon never said he was joking, why you insinuate he was???
I'm no scientific genius but water is made out of hydrogen and oxygen. If there's both hydrogen and oxygen on Mars, the technology has to be exist to combine these gases into water. Maybe this process would be insufficient to completely terraform Mars but it would convenient to make bubble life possible. And I have no idea whether there's hydrogen or oxygen on Mars, or in what quantities. And I have no clue about the side effects of depleting Mars' atmosphere of these gases. I'm just sayin'.
As a Surviving Mars player, I'm suprised you haven't mentioned a single thing not possible in its terraforming DLC.
You know what I think? Imagine in the relatively distant future, say 200 to 275 years from now, we do begin to colonize other planetary bodies in earnest. Mars is a great place for a spaceport, but not as easy to terraform as you might believe. Because the planet has been geologically dead for a few billion years.
Venus, on the other hand? It sounds crazy, but it might be easier to *decrease* the density of an existing atmosphere and gradually change it's composition instead of building one from scratch, using the same methods. Venus isn't geologically dead and has a strong magnetic field, meaning it would still theoretically retain whatever atmosphere was left.
Besides that, by the time we could perfect that terraforming technique, we just might be able to repair the damage we've done to the Earth at that point. Assuming we're still around to see all of this happen. Just food for thought.
I disagree. Humans seem to be really experienced in regards to warming planets up, we could easily do that with Mars.
Exactly, this is something people don’t seem to consider.
My thoughts exactly. Mars is a great place for a jumping off start. Low gravity, etc.
(My comment is a joke btw I agree with this comment don’t take it too seriously)
@@Nonamelol. Except that ignores the lack of a magnetosphere, meaning solar wind strips the atmosphere. Also, as the video notes, there's a severe lack of water to bring the atmospheric pressure up. Once you get a magnetosphere going, you'd need to piledrive icy comets into the place, then a solar mirror to melt it. A better use would be to dismantle it and get a dyson swarm going.
I'm definitely for the idea of hitting mars with asteroids since we want to farm asteroids...why not hit it with asteroids and farm on mars
Skyblock irl
*you'll only aggravate and annoy the subterranean martian civilization that still dwells there by doing that...probably not the best course of action for the well being on those who still live on earth and keep all our stuff here...just sayin'*
Hm. Well that would require less resources to get the resources there Possibly. Especially if the asteroid has a lot of metal and other materials.
Then we'd need the equipment to mine it, store it, and have some sort of factory to manufacture with it already on the planet. I don't think we can build it from scratch through the asteroids resources, mainly because we'd already need the stuff there to extract it and use it. And any humans on the planet would need to steer clear of the impact zone, if we use robots maybe less so.
they also need to teach this to kids in schools. i’m 22 learning this on my own. and a maintenance technician at tesla
I’ve been watching a lot of kurzgachet and infographics show and I think I’ve been feeling my brain getting bigger
Thermonuclear doesn't have near the fallout of a regular fission bomb. Small fission reaction explodes to start a fusion reaction. Way bigger bang for a much less radiation.
Is more fallout the desired?
@@mr.monitor. I think its more the heat from the bomb they're after. Fallout is like chernobyl where it will be radioactive for 10,000 years. Thermonuclear is way bigger bomb with maybe 10-100 years of radioactive fallout. Research the difference between fission bomb and fusion bomb. Excuse the pun but it blew my mind!
Tell that to the irradiated atolls in the Pacific where we conducted early H-bomb tests.
Could go for the SLAM missile, might as well if man ever creates a rocket with fusion as the power source, then such blows up on the pad, then another, and then another. I suppose it would save on electricity, for cooking and lights being all round radiation
Looks like using the mistakes that we did on Earth is incredibly useful for Mars.
One man's junk is another man's treasure.
Or one planet's junk this time.
Problem with mars is its thin atmosphere, we would somehow need to increase its magnetic field. I've seen a paper once that is possible to do this in theory by building a magnetic ring around the planet but I am no scientist, so dunno.
Edit: I also think we should be focusing on Jupiter's moon Europa instead since the presence of water is quite likely and even alien life, but Mars seems to get all the attention, so dunno
Jeff Bezos is right when he said that living on top of mount everest would be like a tropical paradise compared to living on mars lol
Unfortunately this disregards the true unsolvable problem with Mars terraforming:
Without a magnetosphere, Mars' atmosphere will degrade over time. It needs a protective magnetic field to prevent solar winds from destroying it. Don't know how we solve that as Mars has a dead core.
The video actually addressed this, it was as they started talking about a radiation shield to keep mars in its shadow.
The video attempts to address that issue. However I can see Elon musk saying drill to the center of the planet and bomb the heck out of it
Did you even watch the video?
It is possible to create an artificial magnetosphere with a powerful electromagnet at the L1 Lagrange point. Electromagnets powerful enough to do this have already been created.
@@zeroenna8554 cool, a radioactive atmosphere... that's going to solve all the problems.. pffff
There was a episode of Star Trek Enterprise where they redirected a asteroid made of ice to hit the poles to terraform mars which sounds a lot better than nukes.
Do you mean, a "Comet"
Comets are made of ice... not asteroids
@@bebemax95 What about asteroids ? Is this some form of cosmic prejudice/racism. Why not have asteroids made of ice. I bet there out there but you would prefer to call them comets !
@@noanchompha8665 Asteroids are made of rock, metals and other elements. Some even contain water, astronomers say.
@@thomasgeorge5106 So what. Who cares ! I don't. Asteroids and comets are cellestial bodies and should be treated as sacred and left alone (other than for research purposes.)
Mars: I'm ready to welcome humans. It'll be tough, but we can make it work.
Humans: *literally fires nukes at it*
I say we terraform venus, because it already has an atmosphere.
And many other pluses,
Gravity: 8.87 m/s2 ✅
In edge of habitable zone ✅
Thick atmosphere ✅
All we would need to do is send some asteroids it’s way to make it’s tilt more like earths and give it a 24 hour day cycle.
And since we terraforming which is advanced technology, that would mean we could bring mercury into the orbit venus. And done!
If venus doesn’t work then we could just terraform earth before anything bad happens to it.
Interesting video man great job today!
how about yesterday?
Couldn’t we use the sun shield for earth in case a rogue solar storm hits us? We only have short notice when it happens so couldn’t we deploy the shield to help protect civilization?
Maybe, but a sun shield that large could have an effect on Earth's orbit around the sun. Sun shields are currently being tested by NASA as a potential propulsion system.. one big enough might _move_ the Earth.
Nuking mars for terraforming is like Finding a difficult way to cheat on an exam than actually studying
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Even if they could release its co2 to the atmosphere, it is still futile because mars has very weak magnetosphere which makes mars still prone to solar winds.
Co2 is already in the atmosphere of Mars and that point has already been made. The point though is they have came up with a solution to fix that problem. The next point would be gravity to help mars better hold an atmosphere.
@@lovingbeast5045 you can't though. The core is dead. There is nothing on Earth that can fix it.
@@mervstash3692 True, but the core of a planet doesn't really generate gravity though, it is the mass of the planet as a whole that does that.
While we cannot restart the dynamo again, the solution of magnetic shielding might be able to be attained through the satellite shield that was introduced in the video.
To be honest, I don't know what would happen to the core of the planet if more mass was able to be added to Mars. The action might actually put enough pressure on the core to liquefy around the core to get some kind of dynamo effect started, or it could do absolutely nothing. The thing that is keeping earth's Mantle liquefied is the gravity of the earth putting so much pressure on the iron core of the Earth. That combined with the friction of the Earth's rotation keeps the Mantle in a liquefied state. Take away mass from the earth, you would take away some of that pressure, and thus solidify the Mantle, and voilà you would turn the Earth into another Mars.
Yet, humans seem to ignore this inconvenient fact and focus on being silly.
@@lovingbeast5045 You can't have an atmosphere without a working core. The core generates the magnetic field that protects the atmosphere from all the radiation. If you don't address that first, the rest is irrelevant.
@@mervstash3692 Venus would disagree with your statement. Venus' core does not generate a magnetic field, yet Venus has the densest atmosphere of all the terrestrial planets.
Of course it's terrible, I'm pretty sure he wasn't serious. He sat there and said the first thing that came to his mind, and people take it that he has already a plan or something
Just like the dumb tunnels he wanted to dig under LA with his boring company?
Elon is a clown
@@stang9806 As opposed to you who has clearly achieved so much more in life. I mean with a comment like “Elon is a clown” you are obviously an individual of supreme intelligence, especially since you backed it up with evidence as to why he is a clown.
how do do you know? he's a self-righteous very rich fool
@@albertangeloro5832 He isn't exactly the best person and a madman for sure, but he has the resources and the intellect to lead a technological revolution. I wouldn't call that folly. He's still the best chance at achieving the next stage in our society.
I read this somewhere I don't remember.. "If we can terraform Mars, we can save our earth too"
Yeah knowing human history conflicts would be inevitable even on Mars
It's another "we currently lack the technology" option, but what if we just tried to polarize the 4th planet? I know we just got done hearing how counterproductive it'd be to nuke Mars, but what if we used nuclear energy to power an apparatus that generates a magnetic field around the planet itself, versus the blanket proposition? Physical locations sound like a better arrangement for maintenance and management, in comparison to having an array constantly needing recalibration and repositioning.
Neil de Grasse Tyson said it the best: if we have the technology to terraform Mars, then we have the technology to terraform Earth.
@@ficialintelligence1869 Big elitist corporations don't wanna hear that here though. They're having too much fun with the at-home destabilization process.
OMFG, was this a serious post? Sounded like a literal troll to me.
I guess first the dyson swarm to get the energy to do so ...
before swarm ... to the Moon for resources ... but I am not the budget owner ...
@@ficialintelligence1869 earth is not terraforming haha
Great video. Some recent videos have been a little sketchy on details but you did a great job on this one. You hit every point I would have stuck in this comment 😄
The asteroid method would work better if they slam as many as possible to Mars, direct a sizeable chunk of the asteroid belt into Mars and it'll improve the mass of the planet (to improve it's ability to maintain it's atmosphere), along with directing necessary gasses and liquids
Basically we're not going to terraform Mars
But Elon Musk isn't the first person to suggest using nukes to terraform Mars.
Yup, it was just an intriguing possibility he threw out on a talk show once. He never claimed that was "his plan," in fact he qualified that it was just a possibility. He has loads of top scientists and engineers working on solutions, has for over a decade.
Yes he is not the first but he sure the one to push for the idea to next level and greater publicity. If you cant do anything about the sahara desert, forget mars
I remember on star trek enterprise they used comets to help thicken up the atmosphere of mars.
Yo mars getting hit with a combo 😂
Thank you for pointing out that Musk has no expertise in this area. I'm so sick of people who think of him as some kind of all-knowing god, when in fact he's just a businessman who knows how to mistreat his workers and spew misinformation on Twitter.
Yeah, and he definitely doesn't employ thousands of scientists with expertise in these fields...
@@Christobanistan He certanly isnt an egineer giving detalied explanations of rocket engines on youtube.
*Con man.
@@teslabot5650 And he doesn't have degree in physics plus 2 years towards a doctorate.
@@Christobanistan Nope certainly didnt assemble the wolds most talented teams and challenge them to do the impossible either. Or take 100% of his Pay Pal and Zip 2 earnings to gamble on 2 immosible companies and succeed. The world is full of steel reusable spaceships and Mars was done bt NASA 20 years ago. SLS is a great rocket too
He's an entrepreneur who spends his own money while the government spends your money
forgetting that 5 billion in government subsidies?
considering SpaceX is already making deals with NASA I expect he's going to start getting your money for his "epic scientist moments" too
@@user-304jgojnegilrnw that, and tons in all "his" companies
@@user-304jgojnegilrnw ya. both space x and tesla received billons as incentives.
(Tax Payers Money).
@@user-304jgojnegilrnw meh, the American people got stimulus money. No problem.
I'm glad you addressed the lack of a magnetic field, but it's no coincidence multicellular life arose after the ozone layer formed here on Earth. We need a means of creating an ozone layer to filter out harmful UV rays on Mars as well. I doubt one shield would be enough, too. Maybe a fusion bomb directly to the core to melt it into functionality?
are you kidding ? you do know how BIG Mar's core is , right ? how many nukes do you think you'll need ? a couple of hundred million ? more ? We simply don't have the tech to do something like pump enough uranium/thorium into the core to kick start enough decay to generate heat to get the core to stratify and get geomagnetism going, you'd need a mine the size of the moon to extract enough radioactive material. No that is not going to work. Even using some thing like that NASA idea is too wild. The best bet, by far, is simply to go underground. By excavating massive internal caverns, and I mean massive, then we could set up entire cities and have total control over the climate inside. That offers superior options that beat any surface city.
You DO KNOW how the Ozone layer forms, right ? High up in the atmosphere where U.V. has higher energy (shorter wavelength and higher intensity) the energy of that U.V is absorbed by oxygen molecule which is enough to break the covalent bond and causes the free oxygen radicle to form another bond with molecular oxygen forming ozone...
@@psycronizer but it's Mars's gravity alone capable of creating that layer and maintaining it?
@@psycronizer I was thinking more along the line of fusion bombs.
@@nitzan3782 yeah I know...still you're talking hundreds of billions of bombs, I don't think you get how BIG that core is. Look at it like this, the biggest nuke ever , Tsar Bomba, wouldn't even vaporize Hawaiian Islands, now go have a look at google Earth at how small that main Island is, pan out and think about how small that is compared to even a Tenth of Earth's core...lol, it's like atoms to oranges lol...it really is...
All you need is Optimus Prime and Thanos to have a sit down , those two know how to rebuild planets
One of the main story lines of The Expanse is the terraforming of Mars. The effort is mainly given up after the opening of the ring gates as there are still generations of work to do to complete the project and new habitable planets exist. The books not go into any detail how this is done, but what they learn from this terraforming activity gives the human living on Mars a technological advantage. Again, it is one of those ‘hard to fathom, but suspend your questions’ parts that propel the story but do not provide any roadmaps. Come to think of it: that’s just like most of Musk’s ideas.
Well terraforming a planet over hundrets of years is not that far fetched when spaceships have pretty much infinite fuel and you can travel from the asteroid belt to the inner planets in a couple days.
Well said , reason why legions of people take a lot of Musk’s ideas seriously ( many just aren’t great, quite the opposite) is his business success ( which doesn’t correlate to great ideas , strategies , innovations to push humanity forward).
It's so insane to me that the human race is wasting more time and energy thinking of how we could make Mars habbitable instead of just saving the one we live in
Yeah, he's trying to do that aswell with Tesla and Solarcity
The human race isn't, just Elon. Every other agency that's working on Mars is doing it to learn about our origins, the universe etc.
And then to destroy it just like how we are destroying earth.
@@bradford2211 you watch too much propaganda. The Earth is fine
@@bradford2211 Destroying earth? Read a book or two and stop watching news. By the time we are technologically advanced enough to colonize Mars, we'd obviously have the tech to ensure almost zero carbon emissions.
This video shows how much scope of progress is left for us humans to do in science and technology
I first saw this plan on National Geographic
Mars had its atmosphere blown away, it's water was blown into space, and it's magnetic field vanished because of our star. The giant valley on Mars was created by it's lowest magnetic field line was supercharged, and a plasma burst ripped into the crust.
Also the atmosphere is too thin, and the gravity is much less than earth, so human habitation right there is pretty much impossible.
Sure, but that took a billion years. Restoring an atmosphere for a few thousand years is certainly doable.
@@10191927 The atmosphere can be thickened. Gravity can be increased artificially or we may find we can survive with some modifications to lifestyle, such as visiting a spinning artificial gravity device an hour or two a day.
I'll never understand why some people have so little imagination.
I live in Karachi Pakistan and I follow your website
@@Christobanistan I live in Karachi Pakistan and I follow your website
The Infographic Show, I have an idea. Let's say if you took some NaF3, a volatile highly reactive agent onto the surface of Mars. Would the NaF3 reacting with the perchlorate concentrations that are on the surface would potentially help in CFC generation?
probably, but once again no matter how strong the CFC is as a potent greenhouse gas,
1) NaF3 is not common and you have to produce it
2) as u said NaF3 is a highly reactive agent so transporting it to mars will be a headache as any problems or errors may lead to NaF3 even reacting with the metal components and do damage
3)once again the solar winds stip out all of your CFCs in a couple of years or so, so you would need to have a magnetic barrier set up on mars first to think about CFCs.
For terraforming, we need something which is like easy to produce/already present, or even like asteroids rich in such minerals so that we can simply divert them to mars and make them crash into mars. Not a bad idea ngl
@@abinanthanva289 Would it be possible to put NF3 into a container surrounded by an argon gas shell, then fire it like a missle into Mars?
Oh so all we need is a magnetic shield.. why didnt I obviously think of that
No one wants to address the Big Question - gravity. How do you have a colony where you have growing humans (pregnancy, babies, etc.) in a small percentage of Earth's gravity? Until that happens, no permanent colony can be established.
Neuclear winter would be short lived on Mars brcause of no magnetic field blocking solar winds. It would take a very short time to (blow) the dust particlesfrom Mars atmosphere. Also, how are these greenhouse gasses going to stay on Mars since there is no magnetic field? Just curious
he said at 6:56
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Leave it to us humans for the first idea to involve nuclear weapons. Some things apparently will never change.
Thankfully there are still rational people out there
So where did the information of the audio of this video come from?
Wikipedia
so we have to become sustainable on earth? or how do we introduce a magnet field to mars
How about we put some of that “terraform Mars” effort in to, I don’t know, say, KEEPING EARTH HABITABLE?! The fact we knew about climate change and the effects of polluting the air on Earth LONG ago and ignored it, seems people would rather focus on turning a different planet in to something humans could tolerate than maintain Earth’s “natural” ability to host human life.
people are working WAY harder to fix climate change than terraform mars. we havent even set foot on mars yet
@@gojifan05 or in a way, fixing climate change would also help us to terraform mars.
@@priapulida But for how long?
@@okamijubei based on humanity. Lol.. if there is something happened bad on earth? what do you think will happen? Where this people will find the resources to build and even fly to Mars? How long they could feed themselves after there is no resources left in earth? Do you think other people will just let you escape Earth when there it becomes uninhabitable? Do you see what happened to Sri Lanka?
Calm down with the fallacies
Crazy idea, but what if we took care of earth first. I understand the desire to become a multi-planetary species but we should really master the basic care of one planet before we go doubling down on a 2nd planet that is frequently 250 million miles away.
If we continue living like we do today, the Earth will need terraforming well before we have the prerequisite technology to change landscapes and climates to something else other than radioactive rubble.
“We haven’t found life on mars yet. Might as well make sure we keep it that way” 🤣
There is another huge problem that i never hear iy mentioned and that is how do you how do you release green house gases and have them get trapped in the planets atmosphere when there is no atmosphere to trap them its a catch 22 releasing green house gases on mars would just float of into space. You need an atmosphere to create an atmosphere
The best way to a solve complex problem is to state with full confidence the 'correct' answer. Which will in turn motivate countless others who may actually be capable of finding the real answer, to prove them wrong. I think this might apply. Take caution disregarding intuitive people for the sake of intelligent people. Sometimes you simply need to point people in the right direction to make a change in the world.
I don’t think Elon purposefully promotes a dumb idea just so smarter people can tell him why he’s wrong. Especially when he has the bigger microphone in media. This seems like a lot of excuse to just not admit Elon is wrong and either doesn’t know enough to know he’s wrong, or refused to admit so
I believe we do know that fundamentally the wave-particle duality is not binary, as an exciton can be 'bound' to a photon, and based on how this is done you can tune the resultant quasi-particle to act in a way that is partially wave-like and partially particle-like in different ratios. This has been used to test the properties of different 2D materials especially ones with properties similar to topological insulators.
Factually verified
Exactly! There’s no magic going there. There has to be a rational explanation. Off late media and to some extent even main stream science appear to be treating Quantum behavior as “Magic “
I completely understand this
Relevance to this video?...
Wat are you talking about
“Published a peer reviewed paper?” Talk about censorship of ideas.
If nothing else, it’s cool to rethink how older , dangerous technologies might be repurposed into something useful.
We need to focus on the moon first, it just makes more sense, if we can get a station on the moon, mine it, launching space ships will be less expensive
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That's already the plan.
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@@Christobanistan what if this plan fail ( whole humanity should cry )
I think the Aliens told us not to come back....
I think I liked it better when Elon was just making Teslas😭 this plan is very risky and my question is why should we do this?? We can't mess with other planets we should just leave it be
I have to admit, in the end you're right. 🙁 😐
"When in doubt, drop a bomb."
Perhaps we can use a different type of explosive?
It’s weird like we live in a perfectly designed atmosphere suited just for us.
It's the other way around, we are evolved/designed to be suited to the atmosphere 🙂
The true reason why Mars at this moment isn't habital, is the fact, being far more fraction of the Earth size, a smaller mass, equals a smaller core, equals a smaller exolt of lava, to spew the right amount of elements, listed on a modern chemistry chart from Earth, to surface, which equals right now, a less jolt of geomagnetic power for solar protection.
So to make Mars naturally habital, you need to stack MASS on the planet, for example, pile some of the astro belt debrees on Mars ( more like put it back). Until near equal to Earth mass size.
Then make a large object like Phobos or Ganymede, to substitute as solar green house radiation, like a local version of the Earth Sun.
After that, you may quote the prior work of the director, who managed the Solar system and say " Let there be Light!"👀😉
Mars is only 15% the mass of Earth. And the mass of the asteroid belt is only 0.036% mass of earth. There is not enough mass. Might as well move Venus to the location of mars, if you are going to move the mass of earth somewhere.
@@nickl5658 well the astro belt expands further, just minute in volume the way Earth hemisphere becomes more minute in volume up higher (same in solar orbit), considered of visible detection so there is no real way to absorb, but many substitute debrees can... 🤣 Odds are Venus had shared some parts with Mars before the *air thinning events* that cause migration to this, use to be hyper-tropical realm called Earth. Besides, Venus has chosen the HOT tub 😏. Scratch that out on your vacation schedule list.
Nice video
imagine aliens just chilling on mars and then boom...
another big issue with the whole nuking thing is that it would require a country to deplete some of its nuclear stockpile. which could lead to possible wars or conflicts.
Or a way to disarming nations of nukes.
U r wrong u can make nuke whenever u want u just need pure uranium. And for mars world have to get together for permission
After climbing out of the gravity well of Earth, why would we climb back down into another one?
Our resources would best be expended on building space habitats, unless there is some sort of useful resource down there.
the issue with that is the need for reliable artificial gravity and a LOT of radiation shielding would be needed before we can survive long term in space.
Our bodies don't exactly do great in space.
@@endless3cho Sure they do. Where do you think we are right now?
@@tetsatou2815 on a planet that's in space. Ask the astronauts how we'll our bodies do in space? It takes about a year to rehab yourself back to "normal" because the body has to re-adapt to gravity. Until we figure out a way to counter weightlessness we're gonna see a body that can only live in space.
@@mandiblackwell4668 a large rotating O'Neill cylinder is a space gives you "gravity"
That shield is as implausible as nuking u know how much material u need to make a planet shade
That was too fascinating. Thank you so much for this Infographics.
He literally said "idk maybe nuke it" and people act like he's got a set in stone plan
The only reason the idea became crazy was because he said it. The idea was already in circulation
what about the Martians?
But with out the core of mars being heated to increase the magnetic poles. If you could create a fusion reaction in the core it might be possible.
Mars has a huge mass problem, it’s small enough where its outer core cools down, solidifies and stops spinning so much faster than ours does/will here on earth. This is important because the outer core spinning generates a magnetosphere which provides protection against solar radiation and things of that nature. Without the magnetosphere the atmosphere gets stripped away and (makes) mars inhabitable.
Im all for making bases on mars and the moon but going about it the way we are is concerning. If we didnt constantly do war and worked together we could do all this stuff so much easier and do it far better.
We work together pretty well within the West. We haven't had an internal war for almost a century.
90% of the people who matter are working together.
Also the 88% of earth who want to stay aren’t just going to drop everything to come help us play space man. Thus, making it hard to get governments involved.
To colonize Mars we need to colonize the moon first. Its already proven that it is way more easyer to travel from to Mars via the moon than from Earht.
Yeah, that's the current plan. But there's no hard need to fully colonize the Moon, it would just make Mars easier if we had refueling set up there.
Totally agree. I’ve never understood the idea of wanting to jump straight to Mars without establishing a base or even a spaceport on the Moon first.
Colonizing mars I want it to happen
The thing is I don’t remember you once saying about the radiation it will spread from the Nukes leaving it another 300years before you can even land on mars let alone inhabit it
Better idea: planetary shields for Sol III, fixing Sol III's problems first and build a Dyson sphere. Then we can think about terraforming and have the power to do it
Asteroid bombardment comes with the added bonus of slowly increasing mass, which helps retain the atmosphere as gravity raises. Plus, if you bring asteroids rich in long living radioactive isotopes the martian core can be reignited so that it generates its own magnetic field and starts having tectonics so it also starts recycling nutrients. Bombardment is also fairly easy, you just need to get the asteroids going and can quickly move onto the next one.
Man if we messed that up though and knocked Mars off it's orbit it could collide with another planet 😂
@@Mitchems Slow but steady bombardment with "smaller" asteroids would be the game, not just 'cause it's safer but 'cause it's more efficient in the long run.
My non peer reviewed idea was to send out a nuclear powered space fleet to the Ort cloud to select icy bodies and to push them in to strategically strike Mars in such a way as to not drastically change its orbit. But generating an artificial magnetic field is genius.
Oort cloud is FAR though. Like, really far. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but...
In fact it may be more practical to retrieve the icy objects from Andromeda
Saturn’s rings are mostly water and 1000 times closer than the Oort Cloud. I love the idea of bombarding the surface of mars with massive hunks of ice.
There’s a reason why there isn’t enough of a atmosphere that being it’s core is cold and not producing a strong enough magnetic field to protect against against solar wind that removes the atmosphere. The nuke if anywhere needs to be at its core if there is one inside anymore.
I see a possible solution to 2 problems, if we can find a way of trapping and storing the excess green house gasses we have here on earth and then transport all that extra greenhouse gasses to Mars and release them there, we would be able to lower Temps here on earth and raise climate temperatures on Mars and be able to start the process of terraforming mars.
@@Tribrid-zv3nq yes, I do. That's the whole point of this video. There are no life forms on Mars. We humans would NOT be committing any genocide by doing this, since again, there us no life on Mars. This a POSSIBLE solution I see about helping our planet and terraforming another planet so we humans can live on Mars, since our planet is getting overpopulated and resources here are being used up, and I also wish that people here on earth would be more responsible and stop overpopulating our planet and would more responsible with our resources and help our fellow man but unfortunately too many just don't want to.
That seems a bit impractical
@@Tribrid-zv3nq Colonizing Mars is kinda the whole point of the video. I don’t think we really get what you’re going for here.
Nuking it won't sustain a terraforming, unless it stack more matter granted resources , see...The true reason why Mars at this moment isn't habital, is the fact, being far more fraction of the Earth mass, a smaller mass, equals a smaller core, equals a smaller exolt of lava, to spew the right amount of elements, listed on a modern chemistry chart from Earth to surface, which equals right now, a less jolt of geomagnetic power for solar protection.
So to make Mars naturally habital, you need to stack MASS on the planet, for example, pile some of the astro belt debrees on Mars ( more like put it back). Until near equal to Earth mass size.
Then make a large object like Phobos or Ganymede, to substitute as solar green house radiation, like a local version of the Earth Sun.
Nuking will actually decay it more, hitting the ice only erupts more resource to surface, but cannot sustain for long, going back to its usual.
@@Tribrid-zv3nq as I said previously I wish we could go ahead and be doing the responsible things for our planet and humanity but the people in power in our country and all over the globe seem to not wanna do that, and I alone can't do it by myself, many of us are vocal about this, we protest peacefully, we try to elect better leaders in government, but the rich and elites in power have made things near impossible to change, just look at our current political problems in this country and how hard it is to prosecute politicians who led an insurrection.
I like how you start off the episode with an argument from authority.
Laugh! Authority must be right. What a constant joke that has become down the years, a bowing down to put faith in a person because they have B.S.H.I.T, after their names.