In my opinion to understand Trump, the key is to think how he run his businesses. Saying Tik Tok is worthless without a permit he is actually saying, well the US wants a bribe, we will withhold the permit until we get some money back from this. I guess we are not used to the government to act like a gangster out in the open, but now we know.
I made sure to download this video before it gets removed (I'm only half-kidding), before I was even done listening to the podcast. It was also funny how the NYT feed's description for this episode makes no mention of the Stargate section buried in the TikTok segment. That seemed like the most important part of the show. Still, I'm impressed that Kevin and Casey spoke so freely after the Oracle ad that directly preceded the episode. :) Great show.
I am looking forward to reading Chris’s book. I do think however that Attention is perhaps too broad a topic for what the discussion is really about. It’s like discussing the problem with drugs and including all medicinal drugs, not the abuse of addictive drugs. The real problem with Attention is The Feed. And, btw, The Feed or The Algorithm, as it is spoken of in TikTok parlance, is one of the first of techs uses of AI. In the early 2000s if you pitched a software product the first thing the VCs asked was: “Where is the feed?”. And it is both addictive and not only used to sell you stuff, but to tailor your opinions.
But are they grovelling? That's just our interpretation. One opinion I heard and tend to agree with is that the Tech Bro faction felt they were unjustly blamed for the rise of Trvmp, Biden admin doubled down on this, so they so no reason to go with a party and admin which did not praise them at all. Not grovelling at all. I bet they feel like they've embraced their destiny. Certainly, feels like the sky is the limit, there's all kinds of tech protections being removed. The question though is who can control who? I can see all kinds of back doors being introduced into gov systems. Edward Snowden must be stumped about what he gave his whole life up for (remember him??)
16:30 , I feel like I haven’t heard this aspect discussed often! It absolutely feels like a chess piece in a large game of assessing each others temperaments
Such a disappointment. If there was ever a time for Silicon Valley to example the better angels of our nature, this was it. Not to say they should be adversarial, but have some maturity about the responsibility of power. I hope they come around eventually and find their dignity.
Are these crypto rug pull schemes legal? I imagine there are rules and regulations against that sort of behavior in the stock market, but because its crypto, they can get away with it?
It was great you had Chris Hayes on the podcast. He is very thoughtful and insightful.
I really do love watching you guys. Please keep doing what you're doing.
Living in India for half a year. I look forward to my new Hard Fork episode during my 1 hour auto-rickshaw commute every Monday!
i did not know Chris Hayes was such a critical thinker. great insightful interview!
In my opinion to understand Trump, the key is to think how he run his businesses. Saying Tik Tok is worthless without a permit he is actually saying, well the US wants a bribe, we will withhold the permit until we get some money back from this. I guess we are not used to the government to act like a gangster out in the open, but now we know.
Great episode!!
I made sure to download this video before it gets removed (I'm only half-kidding), before I was even done listening to the podcast. It was also funny how the NYT feed's description for this episode makes no mention of the Stargate section buried in the TikTok segment. That seemed like the most important part of the show. Still, I'm impressed that Kevin and Casey spoke so freely after the Oracle ad that directly preceded the episode. :) Great show.
They have no idea who runs ads against their podcast.
@@kyber1fun164 They might now, given what they said about Ellison and Oracle.
Excellent nodding, you SHOULD tweet that comment about the Elon space nazi salute and great episode, music and interlude videos as ever ❤❤
I am looking forward to reading Chris’s book. I do think however that Attention is perhaps too broad a topic for what the discussion is really about. It’s like discussing the problem with drugs and including all medicinal drugs, not the abuse of addictive drugs. The real problem with Attention is The Feed. And, btw, The Feed or The Algorithm, as it is spoken of in TikTok parlance, is one of the first of techs uses of AI. In the early 2000s if you pitched a software product the first thing the VCs asked was: “Where is the feed?”. And it is both addictive and not only used to sell you stuff, but to tailor your opinions.
Yay new episode!🩵
Which tech CEO do you think will grovel the hardest these next couple years?
Zuck has set the bar high. His lead might be insurmountable.
Sam Altman is definitely a dark horse pick!
But are they grovelling? That's just our interpretation. One opinion I heard and tend to agree with is that the Tech Bro faction felt they were unjustly blamed for the rise of Trvmp, Biden admin doubled down on this, so they so no reason to go with a party and admin which did not praise them at all. Not grovelling at all. I bet they feel like they've embraced their destiny. Certainly, feels like the sky is the limit, there's all kinds of tech protections being removed. The question though is who can control who? I can see all kinds of back doors being introduced into gov systems.
Edward Snowden must be stumped about what he gave his whole life up for (remember him??)
16:30 , I feel like I haven’t heard this aspect discussed often! It absolutely feels like a chess piece in a large game of assessing each others temperaments
hawk tuah coin is like something straight out of idiocracy
Casey, 2066 by Roberto Bolano is a great book, stick with it!
The last time a President acted so arrogantly and unilaterally, we ended up invading Iraq. It was a fever we came to regret.
I feel like the post-credits outro is pretty much the NYTimes' most prominent discussion of the salute to date. Sad.
Such a disappointment. If there was ever a time for Silicon Valley to example the better angels of our nature, this was it. Not to say they should be adversarial, but have some maturity about the responsibility of power. I hope they come around eventually and find their dignity.
Crypto is a solution looking for a problem to solve. Life is a carnival by The Band comes to mind.
Are these crypto rug pull schemes legal?
I imagine there are rules and regulations against that sort of behavior in the stock market, but because its crypto, they can get away with it?
This podcast is for silly people