Hickman is just a genius. It's crazy how he Made this puzzle all connect without even trying like this was supposed to happen with Avengers world and Krakoa
It’s just so wonderful how you could read all of hickman’s stories consecutively as one large coherent story. How well you connect all these piece is astounding 👏🏿
Well done. Honestly, I’m a huge fan of Hickman’s prior runs, and was so stoked to see him take over X, but had not thought at all about how it would relate back. And the best thing about Hickman is the way he weaves storylines together, all the way back to Shield.
@@Comicbookherald Hilarious. I learned to swim when I was a child. My cousin threw me in the 12ft portion of a pool, & said; "You better not drown."... Great video.
Hickman uses tropes and repeats storytelling beats more often than one might believe, but like you said, it kind of works here as a unifying theory about time, alternate dimensions and singularities in the Marvel Universe. I expect the three X-Men entering The Vault to re-emerge as Hank Pym did in Time Runs Out. They return with insight on various timeless that decide the fate of Mutants. Thanks for doing this. Couldn't wrap my head around it all, but definitely something to think about. It makes me want to revisit Hickman's Avengers.
Awesome. One of your best. Keep up the great work. However, there are like eight different subjects here, each one mind-blowing. The groups that you mentioned, being possibly the easiest. The “non-linear” nature of time. If you lack subjects (and I assume you don’t at all) then even rudimentary discussions of these could be worth examination, possibly leading to deep-dive-if you’ll excuse the jargon.
I love Mike Carey's run, you should do that one. The Sinister Secrets are also some of the coolest theories but I think that video would be better after more issues come out and there are some new connections.
Ok good, I'm already halfway through the Carey re-read lol. It's so good, and has a ton of really fun connections and "unintentional" connections that work well in the Krakoa era.
I have Hickmans entire run of Fantastic four//future founation in issue. However, the only issue of his Avengers//New Avengers i have is the "Franklin Richards" one. That issue was amazing. I eventually picked up the Infinity trade. Much later on... PS: i know there was alt-story that involves Franklin becoming Galactus. I like to think hes going to eventually evolve into a super celestial. Fitting as mutants were engineered by the celestials, and i like to believe that Franklin is the absolute pinnacle of mutant kind, and Valeria in the lineage of Kang, the Conquerer
These are great videos. I've missed xmen alot so these are great to feel that hole. Also very insightful. I read a lot of comics so it's great when I learn new stuff.
In Avengers #15, when Starbrand and Nightmask are living in Sol's Hammer, Starbrand feels that the facility's AI will achieve sentience and will be suicidal. Kinda fits will what happens during the suicide mission in HoX with the Mother Mold...
I think mutants were left out of Avengers World (future) was because of Marvel at time was pissy about having mutants in any of their titles they could make in the MCU at the time. Good thing that era is over, but I doubt MCU will incorporate any of Hickman’s X Men though.
I just found this! GREAT STUFF! I’m not a big fan of Hickman (I do think that he has very good ideas, though.), as I feel that his writing is too cold, linear and overly methodical, but I think that this is a good analysis of his work and how it connects. Good job.
Should we expect Adult Franklin Richards in Hickmans X-Men? Cause I would love to see him conversing with Moira and Charles about a future that even Moira hasn't seen.
About the contrary nature of Moira X concerning precogs vs time-travelers. Most time-travelers do not come from the very end. They may come from dystopian times, oft traveling to the past to try to change the future, but (nearly) never from the very end and they can't say "Mutants never win". They come from one future or another, but we know there's always another totally different potential future than the one they come from. Also main theory is that when the travelers come back, they create a new reality that diverges from their own reality in order to avoid the Grandfather Paradox. Earth 616 will never have the same future that Rachel comes from. It may have something similar, but will not be THAT one. Too much has changed for it to be so. For instance, while Scott & Jean still do end up married after a time later than in Rachel's world, but that still won't be the same since Rachel was similar age to her world's Franklin Richards... who was also her love in her past. But here even if Scott & Jean finally have a baby girl, even if they named her Rachel, there would be at very least 15 or so year difference in age between Rachel & Franklin. Also... not only do they seem to not mind time-travelers from the future on Krakoa, but they don't mind those that travel parallel, cross-time. And in Excalibur vol 1 alone we saw a lot of stuff. Heck at least 2 of the realities they saw were destroyed (or nearly so) by superpowers. One was in a nuclear winter, only living person they found was Meggan, who refused to leave with them since "the world's not dead, just sleeping". The other world had a Judge Dredd feel in a extremely damaged/polluted world and super beings, no matter the source of powers, were outlawed. My guess is that precog mutants, are able to see more 'localized' probabilities,. That is, they have higher chances of seeing what's most likely than the vast potential of alternates that time-travelers (no matter if its from the future or sideways).
Hickman is just a genius. It's crazy how he Made this puzzle all connect without even trying like this was supposed to happen with Avengers world and Krakoa
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It’s just so wonderful how you could read all of hickman’s stories consecutively as one large coherent story.
How well you connect all these piece is astounding 👏🏿
Yeah, I love it, glad you're digging the connections!
Well done. Honestly, I’m a huge fan of Hickman’s prior runs, and was so stoked to see him take over X, but had not thought at all about how it would relate back. And the best thing about Hickman is the way he weaves storylines together, all the way back to Shield.
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Your dives are superb.
Thanks a ton! Ironically, I can't dive into water for the life of me - belly flop after belly flop :)
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Hilarious.
I learned to swim when I was a child. My cousin threw me in the 12ft portion of a pool, & said;
"You better not drown."...
Great video.
Yeesh! Glad you made it :)
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Hickman uses tropes and repeats storytelling beats more often than one might believe, but like you said, it kind of works here as a unifying theory about time, alternate dimensions and singularities in the Marvel Universe.
I expect the three X-Men entering The Vault to re-emerge as Hank Pym did in Time Runs Out. They return with insight on various timeless that decide the fate of Mutants.
Thanks for doing this. Couldn't wrap my head around it all, but definitely something to think about. It makes me want to revisit Hickman's Avengers.
Awesome. One of your best. Keep up the great work.
However, there are like eight different subjects here, each one mind-blowing. The groups that you mentioned, being possibly the easiest. The “non-linear” nature of time.
If you lack subjects (and I assume you don’t at all) then even rudimentary discussions of these could be worth examination, possibly leading to deep-dive-if you’ll excuse the jargon.
happy 32nd! i hadn't seen you post about it on Twitter. i hope you had a good day.
Thank you! I did :)
Happy birthday 🎈
I love Mike Carey's run, you should do that one. The Sinister Secrets are also some of the coolest theories but I think that video would be better after more issues come out and there are some new connections.
Ok good, I'm already halfway through the Carey re-read lol. It's so good, and has a ton of really fun connections and "unintentional" connections that work well in the Krakoa era.
Seconded on Carey's run. So underappreciated! So good!
@@TheKaijudist It's one of my favorites. The leadup to Messiah Complex made already great event so much better.
Happy birthday!
Thanks for not doing that cheesy TH-cam channel voice and dialogue.
I have Hickmans entire run of Fantastic four//future founation in issue. However, the only issue of his Avengers//New Avengers i have is the "Franklin Richards" one. That issue was amazing. I eventually picked up the Infinity trade. Much later on...
PS: i know there was alt-story that involves Franklin becoming Galactus. I like to think hes going to eventually evolve into a super celestial. Fitting as mutants were engineered by the celestials, and i like to believe that Franklin is the absolute pinnacle of mutant kind, and Valeria in the lineage of Kang, the Conquerer
These are great videos. I've missed xmen alot so these are great to feel that hole. Also very insightful. I read a lot of comics so it's great when I learn new stuff.
Hope you do a vid on the Mike Carey run.
I think it’s one of the best runs on X-Men. Id love to hear your take on it.
In Avengers #15, when Starbrand and Nightmask are living in Sol's Hammer, Starbrand feels that the facility's AI will achieve sentience and will be suicidal. Kinda fits will what happens during the suicide mission in HoX with the Mother Mold...
Omega level mutants is what I'm interested in . I'm curious to get your thoughts on mister immortal.
I think mutants were left out of Avengers World (future) was because of Marvel at time was pissy about having mutants in any of their titles they could make in the MCU at the time. Good thing that era is over, but I doubt MCU will incorporate any of Hickman’s X Men though.
I just found this! GREAT STUFF! I’m not a big fan of Hickman (I do think that he has very good ideas, though.), as I feel that his writing is too cold, linear and overly methodical, but I think that this is a good analysis of his work and how it connects. Good job.
Should we expect Adult Franklin Richards in Hickmans X-Men? Cause I would love to see him conversing with Moira and Charles about a future that even Moira hasn't seen.
please do mike carey’s run next
It's looking likely :) Thanks for the vote!
Topic: Uncanny XForce Remender run. Ties to current Apocalypse narrative?
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About the contrary nature of Moira X concerning precogs vs time-travelers. Most time-travelers do not come from the very end. They may come from dystopian times, oft traveling to the past to try to change the future, but (nearly) never from the very end and they can't say "Mutants never win". They come from one future or another, but we know there's always another totally different potential future than the one they come from.
Also main theory is that when the travelers come back, they create a new reality that diverges from their own reality in order to avoid the Grandfather Paradox.
Earth 616 will never have the same future that Rachel comes from. It may have something similar, but will not be THAT one. Too much has changed for it to be so. For instance, while Scott & Jean still do end up married after a time later than in Rachel's world, but that still won't be the same since Rachel was similar age to her world's Franklin Richards... who was also her love in her past. But here even if Scott & Jean finally have a baby girl, even if they named her Rachel, there would be at very least 15 or so year difference in age between Rachel & Franklin.
Also... not only do they seem to not mind time-travelers from the future on Krakoa, but they don't mind those that travel parallel, cross-time. And in Excalibur vol 1 alone we saw a lot of stuff. Heck at least 2 of the realities they saw were destroyed (or nearly so) by superpowers. One was in a nuclear winter, only living person they found was Meggan, who refused to leave with them since "the world's not dead, just sleeping". The other world had a Judge Dredd feel in a extremely damaged/polluted world and super beings, no matter the source of powers, were outlawed.
My guess is that precog mutants, are able to see more 'localized' probabilities,. That is, they have higher chances of seeing what's most likely than the vast potential of alternates that time-travelers (no matter if its from the future or sideways).
Franklin: The future is now old man.
An avengers world
You talk really fast lol slow down dude, sounds like you had to catch your breath a few times haha turning it down to .75x speed helped
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