It is a hell of a spectacle! but I can't get over how good the Titan fight is, probably because the story built up to the fight against Kupka is so good and personal.
You notice he's the only Square Enix character to use zettaflare right? The only other character besides Bahamut was Donald in Kingdom hearts so the only other character with enough fire power to nuke a planet out of existence is a duck from Disney 🤣
@@javieracevedo2362 I noticed that instantly, it made me bust out laughing when Joshua said he would burn the world mean Donald fucking Duck is canonically strong enough to torch a planet if he aimed Zettaflare down at the ground rather than the air 💀
@@LeonShallop fr lol how they gonna make the fight before him way more intense than the guy that's right before the final boss 😆 bahamut got mad love for his fight when they were making it Edit: idk about ALL of the eikon fights being better but yea a good majority of them were very good compared to odin's, that first encounter with him when he parted the sea hyped him up waaay too much
FFXV is still impressive in terms of how the animations are thrown into an open world setting, meaning most summons can happen anywhere on the game map, FFXVI is just insane though. Truly a next gen title, considering all of the Eikon battles and cutscenes are almost at pre rendered CGI levels of quality running real time
Final fantasy XVI has not better character rendering than Final fantasy VII, there is not any jump in characters, what gives better quality to character, is textures, there is not any changes in character textures resolution, and pathtracing lights, CGI it looks better because of pathtracing, so right now there is not any jump, the last of us 2 characters in ps4 are superior in quality than final fantasy XVI, the diference is the resolution not the tecnology that is almost the same this gen than the last one
@@miguelm.a7462 I don't know what you're talking about. The resolution for the textures absolutely has increased, as has the character rendering. Can't tell if you are lying intentionally, or have never played the game.
I just realized that someone among the team must've been a fan of Attack on Titan. The way Ifrit's arm regenerated in the Garuda fight looks eerily similar to a certain scene in S2 and titan's charge attack also looks similar to Reiner's
I remember reading an interview leading up to the release where it said that the team was inspired by different anime and that players might recognize references throughout the game. When I saw Ifrit's arm regenerate, it also reminded me of Attack on Titan.
The fact that Asura's Wrath isn't talked about enough fucks with me constantly. Like.......come on! Its the most anime game ever made thats NOT based off a preexisting property. It deserves more love. Yes the gameplay is mid but the story is just........chefs kiss.
@@DefensiveQueen oh without a doubt. Shit needs to be completely rehauled. But I think if they did, it'd be incredible. Especially because the story is so damned good and deserves better and way more recognition.
Bahamut in 16 is legitimately one of the most jaw dropping things I’ve seen in 20 years of gaming…and that somehow followed Titan, which made me think people were overhyping Bahamut…but it was like old school God of War’s spectacle…
The 14 Bahamut has more of a Godzilla shape to me. But I bring it up because it gets defeated the same way. In a clash of powers where the phoenix pierces right through them (Look up the Flames of Truth cinematic, by itself it doesn't explain but in the moment that the music changes the old man is using the aether around and the faith of the people for the realm to be reborn in the crisis to become the phoenix)
Honestly, I think a lfrit looks a lot better in 16 then compared to 15 He’s just a lot more bad ass looking in 16 compared to 15’s version. The only thing I really like about 15 lfrit is he can do breakdancing. but I prefer 16 lfrit more.
@@DaikyAdarkymgoing by early iterations the Ifrit from 15 was closer to what the devs who first implemented him in the series had envisioned him as. Ifrit only really started to look like a bulky monster from FF7.
Bahamut 15 looks like the Warrior of Light x Bahamut 10. But in my mind he looks much better that way as Bahamut 16. Although I really love the design of Bahamut 9, being the King of the Dragons.
@@dragdos9125 Effectively making him the least Bahamut in the entire brand. Bahamut of Final Fantasy XV is not Noctis; his visage resembles Noctis and Somnus. That he is the real villain is clear in episode Ardyn
They did Garuda a very big disservice in 15 by not making her of one of the Astrals they also did Leviathan a disservice in 16 by making him the lost eikon with zero context or insight as to why
@@ArnadiDenanda I hope DLC can include some bits and pieces of history regarding some of the eikons to feel more immersed and connected with them. Maybe they can even incorporate different weapons inspired/based on different eikons. Kinda like "Ice sword" from Shiva that freezes enemies in front of you for 3secs when executing charged slash. Acquiring these types of weapons only possible when you complete the sidequest specific to an eikon etc
i wanna say we finna see in the dlc but considering how the story was handled, it either gonna be a dlc story unrelated to the cast we know and maybe they'll dive into the past of valasthea with the fallen n stuff, or perhaps divulge more about that other continent not show. but we know exists from the quests, some sort of far easter asian country that made the single edged swords, both cases probably gonna be an entirely new character playable maybe? idk, or it could just be an unlock dlc for leviathan's abilities but i prefer they let us play with leviathan's dominant in a past valasthea so we possibly get one more eikon battle
Not even, ff16 bahamut is the worst design of all incarnations. What makes it worse they select him to be the first gay summon. Plus ff16 has the worst megaflare, it's just impulse renamed.
@@stevendavis6157 Megaflare doesn't have to be a beam and has been depicted many times to have multiple beams and maybe a big one to finish it. As far as the Gay thing, That's just his Dominant and no one really even cares but you apparently. Impulse is small little orbs thrown at the enemy, its not even close to this megaflare. As far as the worst desgin, thats just you my guy. 15 was the worst design to me by far, dude is straight up not even a dragon lmao.
@@Reous Name one ff that megaflare was a scattered particle rays??? Gay pushing, still should have never been introduced. Especially as a figure known as bahamut, who is one of the top popular summons.
@@Reous Oh and design for ff16 bahamut incarnation. It's not me, it's several. Blades for arms, several lance thorns embedded on wings. No wonder some people taste are disgusting. Ff15 bahamut was a knightly(Warrior of light wannabe) avatar, that's why they selected that design.
No one noticed in FF16 how Ifrit Omega surpassing the power of Zettaflare and piercing through Bahamut is a direct reference to FF14 Flames of Truth CGI where archon Louisoix with his last breath pierces through Bahamut's Tetraflare and the primal.
After that battle of cosmic and celestial proportions that is Dion/Bahamut in FFXVI, no other Bahamut even comes close to his sheer godlike power especially since he's the only Bahamut that showcased the planet destroying capabilities of Zettaflare.
I super forgot Bahamut's Design in XV. I think it's really cool but it's not Bahamut to me. I'm so used to Bahamut being a dragon of some kind that having a dude in armor with sword wings is kind of disappointing to see.
I like the eikons in 16 but they used most of the ones from 15 there was such a bigger libary of summons/eikons in the franchise they could of used like my man diablos or knights of the round.
16 hit all the classics though besides Odin-he hasn’t appeared in as many Final Fantasies as the others summons/eikons have. If 16 hadn’t featured those particular summons CBU3 would have been lit up hard for that.
The team is aware of all the summons. They already designed and implemented in FF14. There's even Eikons that are redux version and one even does fusion. So, if they decided to do DLC, it can be literally anything.
I'm not sure it's possible to feature Knights of the Round more than XV did. ;) The Lucii might not have been Astrals, but they definitely represented the Knights of the Round summon.
idc what ANYONE says, Final Fantasy 15 was a GREAT game, i had literal TEARS at the end, that said, Final Fantasy 16 is ALSO GREAT, and i hope that we get DLC to fight Shinryu, Omega, Leviathan, and maybe PAIN from FF10?
*Payne I loved 15 but it was horrible to play at release. The whole thing in Insomnia before you got to the front of the castle was NOT THERE and a lot of other content was added after release as well.
Ramuh in 15 is hulkingly huge compared to cid's ramuh, just look at the spear besides noct. Other eikon is similar in size, but better in design for 16
@@bungifish2227? It's because of Shiva that Clive had the power to beat Odin, it's because of her that they didn't get killed at the bottom of the sea,etc
Especially on PC, maxed out with all the enhancements, FFXV actually looks better than 16 in many aspects, and the animation work on character movements is far better. Replaying it now and was amazed by how good the game looks. But 16 looks better in other areas. Primarily cutscenes and Eikon design. Both have their merits. I was just surprised at how unreal 15 still looks for such an older game.
@@rushpatriot2866lmao man that’s far from how I feel I actually was kinda let down by 16 so it took me back to 15 and I was blown away how fucking good it was
i dont even remember fighting bahamit in ffxv. i loved ffxv summons, but the worst thing was they had shitty requirements to appear, and after getting garuda, i could only see her when summoning.
that's because you never fight him on the main story of XV you only fight Bahamut in XV on the Brothers in Arms Multi-player Expansion (wich isn't available anymore since the game close its Online services a while ago)
I like how Ifrit was still holding onto the hellfire against Typhon just like Goku vs Frieza. Must've been a small reference, no? Typhon forgot/didn't realise there was a massive ball of energy above his head.
You fight all of them plus more in FF14. The design concept is already there with the team. I have a strong feeling they'll add King Moggle Mog if they do DLC for FF16.
I definitely prefer 15 Ramuh's design, especially the ixion staff, as a nod to 10. Ff15 Ramuh was also the most faithful in terms of helping the party.
I’d say ramuh yeah I like the beard more but shiva doesn’t have the look of a shiva it looks kind of like a pixie in 15 also the multiple shivas make her look even smaller and more pixie like something more acute to magus sisters also she looks more skimpy than majestic but of course all this is subjective
I don’t think any design in 15 look as good as they do in 16. Which is fine, 16 is a summon focused game. And it knocks all other summons in the series completely out
@@rebirthofgodrics907that’s shiva after she died or w/e so I guess she’s weaker. Her real body is so big you can see it on the niflheim map. Her real height is like 200 ft tall.
15 Looked good for it's time but the next gen leap is so gorgeous. Cannot wait to see what's in store for the next for FF17...I have a feeling it's an MMO......and I'm okay with that.
I personally ain't mad but start from the beninging (misspelled on purpose) and you'll probably end up liking some of the past iterations of the summons/eikons (design wise) a bit better, emphasis on "some" cuz if you're a Garuda fan then you WILL NOT like what she used to be in the old games lol but in the case of the other ones alot of the times they did look alot better and their attacks were often times WAAAAAY more flashy then they have been in the newer games.
Me who has played from the first game’s release-me either Bros be mad that 16 isn’t some fictional mashup of the previous games that doesn’t actually exist.
Honestly i like FFXV summons more. It felt so "Majestic" when it come out, and after they left, it affected the environment, which is awesome. Imagine if they make it on PS5.. the graphic will be on par with FFXVI's Eikons.
I think one thing that actually hurts the sense of scale in XVI is that there ceases to be any human beings or human-scale architecture to compare the Eikons to after the first couple of fights. When the smallest thing in the scene is Ifrit, it's hard to fully comprehend the size of Titan or Bahamut. The scenes involving all the Astrals in XV are awe-inspiring /because/ there's a tiny little person or a massive skyscraper of known size right there to show you just how big they are.
Ngl, the summons in FFXV always felt so… underused. They were kinda relevant to the plot, but most of them just appear once and them disappear never to be seen again (tbh the only actually cool summons were Leviathan and Bahamut)
Final fantasy 8 ifrit and final fantasy 16 ifrit almost same, and the bahamut too. For shiva maybe ff15 near it to ff16. And ramuh in ff8 called quezacotl. Oh and odin in ff8 almost same with odin ff16
Since when did noctis fight Garuda? I never saw that fight. Come to think of it i barely saw any of the summons in 15. And when i did it was always Ramah.
Garuda fight and summon in 15 are from a special side quest crossover with FF14, you meet a Miqo'te and she asks you to stop the summoning of FF14's Garuda, as reward you get FF14's cotumes for all the characters based on the playable races of FF14.
Everyone in the comments just so casually glancing over the fact that Bahamut has zettaflare now meaning Donald from kingdom hearts has been dethroned as the only zettaflare user lol. Personally don't like the look of ff16's Bahamut but that use of zettaflare has won my heart, he is now one of the coolest iterations of the character ever
Yeah 16 has more interesting designs across the board. Ramuh is pretty similar though, but I enjoy 16's version more since he looks more majestic. Bahamut in 15 being a knight and no dragon makes it stand out more but Bahamut in 16 is perhaps the coolest moment in vg history.
The only thing done better in 15 was garudas design I think that design is really nice other than that 16 has the best design when I first started playing it was hard for me to choose a favorite ekion they're all so cool bahumat and odin are probably my favorite now
@@TheManaTree777 It’s quite hard to compare PC with console. If I compare only summon screen in the clip, 16 doing better. But I heard 5 got some update, maybe I try it after I finish 16. 😁
I will still love how ff15 summon are god deux ex machina. But nothing comes close in the serie to what they did to them with ff16. After all those years our beloved summon needed this games. Can futur entry can even top that ?
Bahamut XV is actually great design wise. IF it was a different character lol. Bahamut was a dragon or humanoid dragon, not this guy who looked like it came from the edgy convention and won the competition there.
There is a story reason for that on Dawn of the Future XV Bahamut actually looks exactly like Noctis and similar to Somnus (Ardyn's brother) and they're apparently that way by design of Bahamut and the dude is so in love with himself that this is possibly the reason he chose Somnus instead of Ardyn and quite possibly one of the if no the main reason he made the other suffer so much and actively tried to deny him as the true king
@@Force-Multiplier Dawn of the Future is really just badly written fanfic for Ardyn fans and purists. The amount of salt and seething I saw beacuse Bahamut was displayed as not evil was something.
@@carlosoliveira2965 idk honestly in paper it can sound one way but it all ultimately depends on the full context and how the actors give life to the scenes if it had been added to the game i would have definitely have had an opinion on the matter but i can't really judge on Dawn of the Future alone also keep in mind that Bahamut doing Ardyn dirty like that just for spite is not the whole story there is also the fact that he was extremely infected by the Plasmodium Malariae at that point too but the man sure seems to love himself lol
Some appear almost everywhere and others only on set areas/fights, Shiva, ramuh and garuda appear a lot, others are too big so they are a little restricted, like titan and leviathan. Bahamut just get summoned 2 times, once against ifrit and another time in a cutscene if you have the royal edition update, and the last one is carbuncle appearing on easy mode if you played the platinum demo. Ramuh appear more than others because his attack can get everywhere basically, with his staff piercing through underground/indoor areas, the longer a fight goes the bigger the chance to get him to appear(very easy to happen). Garuda is a collab side quest summon that you unlock, after you get her she appears a lot, I think she works like ramuh but only outside(easy to happen). Titan appear in very wide outdoor areas and is more likely to appear if your allies are downed(a little complicated). Leviathan appears in very wide outdoor areas next to large bodies of water and is more likely to appear if noctis is in danger, hardest one to get since you always get healed and not many places fit the description, luckily the final area lets you summon her more easily(hard af outside of final area). Shiva appears in indoor and outdoor areas and she's more likely to appear if you're in danger, the fight is taking long and/or your allies are downed(kinda common) Carbuncle only gets unlocked if you played the platinum demo and he only appears on easy mode, idk how easy it is to summon, since I played the demo on a friend's console and Square Enix removed the demo for some stupid reason 1 year later.
I don't really get the point of comparing these two games ? FFXV summons are assets that can be used in any battle while FFXVI summons are only scripted cinematic boss fights. Of course, we expect a lot more from a scripted cinematic fight than a cinematic usable in any battle
The strange thing is that XV /does/ have scripted cinematic scenes that might be more appropriate to compare with XV that weren't used here -- most notably involving the Titan and Leviathan fights, the speedboat sequence in Episode Ignis, the pre-Citadel scene in Royal Edition, and the lead-in to the final boss fight in Comrades. It's still difficult to compare, though, because XV maintains the same engine for basically everything while XVI completely switches playstyles and perspectives for the scripted fights.
@@supanjibobu372 lol I'm butthurt and defensive just because I thought this has to be a troll comment? Are you an infant getting introduced in the internet? LMFAOOO
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The Bahamut fight on 16 is insane, I'm still getting goosebumps whenever I see it on any media.
It is a hell of a spectacle! but I can't get over how good the Titan fight is, probably because the story built up to the fight against Kupka is so good and personal.
You notice he's the only Square Enix character to use zettaflare right? The only other character besides Bahamut was Donald in Kingdom hearts so the only other character with enough fire power to nuke a planet out of existence is a duck from Disney 🤣
@@javieracevedo2362 I noticed that instantly, it made me bust out laughing when Joshua said he would burn the world mean Donald fucking Duck is canonically strong enough to torch a planet if he aimed Zettaflare down at the ground rather than the air 💀
All the eikon fights are so good. Except Odin he was a bit anti climatic for my taste.
@@LeonShallop fr lol how they gonna make the fight before him way more intense than the guy that's right before the final boss 😆 bahamut got mad love for his fight when they were making it
Edit: idk about ALL of the eikon fights being better but yea a good majority of them were very good compared to odin's, that first encounter with him when he parted the sea hyped him up waaay too much
FF16 Eikons are straight up monstrous Kaiju design and I love it
british naruto
The Bahamut fight makes me think of a Godzilla v Ghidorah. Hahaha
Ifrit went from your general monster orc to a whole flaming kaiju.
Anyway, Rama and Shiva didn't join the squat tho
@@TheSwoojattack on titan core
FFXV is still impressive in terms of how the animations are thrown into an open world setting, meaning most summons can happen anywhere on the game map, FFXVI is just insane though. Truly a next gen title, considering all of the Eikon battles and cutscenes are almost at pre rendered CGI levels of quality running real time
Final fantasy XVI has not better character rendering than Final fantasy VII, there is not any jump in characters, what gives better quality to character, is textures, there is not any changes in character textures resolution, and pathtracing lights, CGI it looks better because of pathtracing, so right now there is not any jump, the last of us 2 characters in ps4 are superior in quality than final fantasy XVI, the diference is the resolution not the tecnology that is almost the same this gen than the last one
@@miguelm.a7462 Who honestly gives a shit? Game still looks and plays amazing
@@elisel2308 exactly!
@@miguelm.a7462 Nah XVI looks way better you just want to complain.
@@miguelm.a7462 I don't know what you're talking about. The resolution for the textures absolutely has increased, as has the character rendering.
Can't tell if you are lying intentionally, or have never played the game.
I just realized that someone among the team must've been a fan of Attack on Titan. The way Ifrit's arm regenerated in the Garuda fight looks eerily similar to a certain scene in S2 and titan's charge attack also looks similar to Reiner's
Not to mention that Titan overall looks like the Armored Titan. Love 16
I remember reading an interview leading up to the release where it said that the team was inspired by different anime and that players might recognize references throughout the game.
When I saw Ifrit's arm regenerate, it also reminded me of Attack on Titan.
They say they took inspiration from game of thrones. But I always felt like it was attack on titan. The 9 eikons being used for war.
I'd like to say you're overthinking it, since they said they took inspiration from GOT. But idk, anything is possible ig.
@@gateauxq4604😂😂😂
You know, this makes me want a next gen remake of Asura's wrath even more than I did.
The fact that Asura's Wrath isn't talked about enough fucks with me constantly. Like.......come on! Its the most anime game ever made thats NOT based off a preexisting property. It deserves more love. Yes the gameplay is mid but the story is just........chefs kiss.
@@SEXYCBOFym asuras wrath gameplay is mid
@@DefensiveQueen oh without a doubt. Shit needs to be completely rehauled. But I think if they did, it'd be incredible. Especially because the story is so damned good and deserves better and way more recognition.
15 version of bahamut is so interesting
It's like a Dragoon Knight on god mode
Thats the best scene ever
Bahamut in 16 is legitimately one of the most jaw dropping things I’ve seen in 20 years of gaming…and that somehow followed Titan, which made me think people were overhyping Bahamut…but it was like old school God of War’s spectacle…
IFRIT vs BAHAMUT FF16 look like GODZILLA vs GHIDORAH lol.. and PHOENIX is like MOTHRA in there..
Yep lol it's amazing
The 14 Bahamut has more of a Godzilla shape to me. But I bring it up because it gets defeated the same way. In a clash of powers where the phoenix pierces right through them
(Look up the Flames of Truth cinematic, by itself it doesn't explain but in the moment that the music changes the old man is using the aether around and the faith of the people for the realm to be reborn in the crisis to become the phoenix)
To be honest, I really like the bahamut design in FFXV but it's just weird to see bahamut not as a big ass flying lizard.
Not the best design
Honestly forgot how nice 15 summons were since i barely got to see those in regular gameplay
Crazy how that a heavily critized aspect of that game... while in FF XVI they appear even less and no one cares...
Honestly, I think a lfrit looks a lot better in 16 then compared to 15
He’s just a lot more bad ass looking in 16 compared to 15’s version. The only thing I really like about 15 lfrit is he can do breakdancing. but I prefer 16 lfrit more.
We cannot call that thing ifrit from ff XV is just a "demonic king".
But to be honest ff xvi Ifrit is a bit too toasted for me xD.
Ifrit in 15 was like a naked man wearing horns breakdancing whilie lit on fire.
@@DaikyAdarkymgoing by early iterations the Ifrit from 15 was closer to what the devs who first implemented him in the series had envisioned him as. Ifrit only really started to look like a bulky monster from FF7.
15 did parkour…oh wait so did 16. 👀 I like the doggy face 16 Ifrit has though
Honestly 16's summon designs are my most favorite
11:31 I really liked how they made Bahumat in his Knight Form! It looks so sick💯
Bahumat🤣
Bahamut was done so well in 16. I replayed it so many times just because it was that good
Man, I love the summons theme song in FFXV, it's so... majestic
Not as majestic as Final Fantasy 16
XV soundtrack is a hit hit no misses there on that front Yoko Shimorura did an amazing job on XV's OST
@@Force-Multiplier*EXACTLY.*
Bahamut 15 looks like the Warrior of Light x Bahamut 10. But in my mind he looks much better that way as Bahamut 16. Although I really love the design of Bahamut 9, being the King of the Dragons.
Bahamut has always been depicted as an actual dragon or as a humaniform dragon, the one in 15, on the other hand, is roughly a guy in armor.
The one in XV looks like a dragoon rather than a dragon which is kinda cool
@@dantekhaos9768 XV's Bahamut is Noctis, it would come out in Noctis's canceled DLC, Bahamut is the true final boss of XV.
@@dragdos9125 Effectively making him the least Bahamut in the entire brand. Bahamut of Final Fantasy XV is not Noctis; his visage resembles Noctis and Somnus. That he is the real villain is clear in episode Ardyn
Bahamut 15 have a looks like a savior, but hes the villain
They did Garuda a very big disservice in 15 by not making her of one of the Astrals they also did Leviathan a disservice in 16 by making him the lost eikon with zero context or insight as to why
I think they imply he was one of the first to rebel against the gods
chill dude there's still the dlc its possible Leviathan is in it
2 more i think, leviathan & the forbidden one alexander
@@ArnadiDenanda I hope DLC can include some bits and pieces of history regarding some of the eikons to feel more immersed and connected with them. Maybe they can even incorporate different weapons inspired/based on different eikons. Kinda like "Ice sword" from Shiva that freezes enemies in front of you for 3secs when executing charged slash. Acquiring these types of weapons only possible when you complete the sidequest specific to an eikon etc
i wanna say we finna see in the dlc but considering how the story was handled, it either gonna be a dlc story unrelated to the cast we know and maybe they'll dive into the past of valasthea with the fallen n stuff, or perhaps divulge more about that other continent not show. but we know exists from the quests, some sort of far easter asian country that made the single edged swords, both cases probably gonna be an entirely new character playable maybe? idk, or it could just be an unlock dlc for leviathan's abilities but i prefer they let us play with leviathan's dominant in a past valasthea so we possibly get one more eikon battle
Ff16 summons knock every other final fantasy out of tge water. So clear
eden summon in ff8 still fantastic
@@muhamadmuqri5466ff14 did it better 🤣🤣
@@Chihiro-Kikuchi it's actually the same animation with better graphic
@@muhamadmuqri5466FF8 in general holds up well IMO since it also focused on summons.
@@Chihiro-Kikuchi Big facts.
Noctis summoning shiva be like ❄👁👄👁❄
I thought FFXV Bahamut was already epic back then… it was outclassed by Bahamut in FFXVI.
Not even, ff16 bahamut is the worst design of all incarnations. What makes it worse they select him to be the first gay summon. Plus ff16 has the worst megaflare, it's just impulse renamed.
@@stevendavis6157 Megaflare doesn't have to be a beam and has been depicted many times to have multiple beams and maybe a big one to finish it. As far as the Gay thing, That's just his Dominant and no one really even cares but you apparently. Impulse is small little orbs thrown at the enemy, its not even close to this megaflare. As far as the worst desgin, thats just you my guy. 15 was the worst design to me by far, dude is straight up not even a dragon lmao.
@@stevendavis6157Nice bait
@@Reous Name one ff that megaflare was a scattered particle rays??? Gay pushing, still should have never been introduced. Especially as a figure known as bahamut, who is one of the top popular summons.
@@Reous Oh and design for ff16 bahamut incarnation. It's not me, it's several. Blades for arms, several lance thorns embedded on wings. No wonder some people taste are disgusting. Ff15 bahamut was a knightly(Warrior of light wannabe) avatar, that's why they selected that design.
bruh bahamut summon on ffxv looks like a joke, the character is interesting but the summon just got countered by an Ifrit doing breakdance
They didn't have to go this hard in ff16...
No one noticed in FF16 how Ifrit Omega surpassing the power of Zettaflare and piercing through Bahamut is a direct reference to FF14 Flames of Truth CGI where archon Louisoix with his last breath pierces through Bahamut's Tetraflare and the primal.
Ngl, ffxv titan looks so weird to me after seeing his version on 16 lmao
he's naked in xv lol
Same feeling
The fight against Bahamut at XVI still gave me chills, very exhaustive yet pretty to look at 😮❤
Bahamut in XVI also is a Gundam on acid.
No one can deny the graphics and orchestration for FFXVI, If they liked the game or not, it’s amazing.
After that battle of cosmic and celestial proportions that is Dion/Bahamut in FFXVI, no other Bahamut even comes close to his sheer godlike power especially since he's the only Bahamut that showcased the planet destroying capabilities of Zettaflare.
What about type 0 Bahamut?
Ff16 is up there as my fav final fantasy its so good
I super forgot Bahamut's Design in XV. I think it's really cool but it's not Bahamut to me. I'm so used to Bahamut being a dragon of some kind that having a dude in armor with sword wings is kind of disappointing to see.
Honestly I think FF16 is one of those game with the best boss battles and the story was great I enjoyed it.
15's Garuda looks like it belongs in FFX honestly
16 bahamut scene is beyond insane.
I like the eikons in 16 but they used most of the ones from 15 there was such a bigger libary of summons/eikons in the franchise they could of used like my man diablos or knights of the round.
16 hit all the classics though besides Odin-he hasn’t appeared in as many Final Fantasies as the others summons/eikons have. If 16 hadn’t featured those particular summons CBU3 would have been lit up hard for that.
Dlc
The team is aware of all the summons. They already designed and implemented in FF14. There's even Eikons that are redux version and one even does fusion. So, if they decided to do DLC, it can be literally anything.
I'm not sure it's possible to feature Knights of the Round more than XV did. ;) The Lucii might not have been Astrals, but they definitely represented the Knights of the Round summon.
Ramuh looks much cooler in FF15 and menacing it's almost scary.
I don't see it honestly. It's quite the opposite for FF16 as that version looks more menacing and cooler.
@@espada9000I like the outfit in 16 more but love the spear with the horse on 15 wish they kept that
they look the exact same lol
idc what ANYONE says, Final Fantasy 15 was a GREAT game, i had literal TEARS at the end, that said, Final Fantasy 16 is ALSO GREAT, and i hope that we get DLC to fight Shinryu, Omega, Leviathan, and maybe PAIN from FF10?
*Payne
I loved 15 but it was horrible to play at release. The whole thing in Insomnia before you got to the front of the castle was NOT THERE and a lot of other content was added after release as well.
Ramuh and shiva in xv still the best. Titan in xv is not bad either but can’t compare to xvi.
they really did some amazing graphic updates
While 15 reminded me that I summoned a literal GOD
In 16 after a while of Oh big people fighting it’s…oh another one
Ramuh in 15 is hulkingly huge compared to cid's ramuh, just look at the spear besides noct. Other eikon is similar in size, but better in design for 16
Shiva in FFXV is very sexy and seductive, Shiva in FFXVI is very adorable
ff16 Shiva looks more Royally adorable
@@karlebykok9177ff16 shiva was useless though didn't do much, much like Jill herself
@@bungifish2227 but her cold snap is one of the best skills in the game lol, what a difference
@@kainakrit9311 yh I abused that lol quite broken tbh especially permafrost
@@bungifish2227? It's because of Shiva that Clive had the power to beat Odin, it's because of her that they didn't get killed at the bottom of the sea,etc
Only thing I don’t like about 16 Ramuh is I wish he had more beard
Especially on PC, maxed out with all the enhancements, FFXV actually looks better than 16 in many aspects, and the animation work on character movements is far better. Replaying it now and was amazed by how good the game looks. But 16 looks better in other areas. Primarily cutscenes and Eikon design. Both have their merits. I was just surprised at how unreal 15 still looks for such an older game.
15 is terrible and it aged poorly nothing of what you said is close to true
@@rushpatriot2866lmao man that’s far from how I feel I actually was kinda let down by 16 so it took me back to 15 and I was blown away how fucking good it was
i dont even remember fighting bahamit in ffxv.
i loved ffxv summons, but the worst thing was they had shitty requirements to appear, and after getting garuda, i could only see her when summoning.
Thats cus we never did fight bahamut, there was a fight in the multiplayer dlc that I think was the literal final boss but that aside no
that's because you never fight him on the main story of XV
you only fight Bahamut in XV on the Brothers in Arms Multi-player Expansion (wich isn't available anymore since the game close its Online services a while ago)
I like how Ifrit was still holding onto the hellfire against Typhon just like Goku vs Frieza. Must've been a small reference, no? Typhon forgot/didn't realise there was a massive ball of energy above his head.
Seeing these comparisons just shows how insane FF16 is
Man the Garuda ost in FF16 is so good
Necesito jugar Final Fantasy 15 de nuevo, me encanta 😍💞
Who would win, a Titanic, World-Burning, Dragonic Eikon or a Duck with a staff.
Yea all the summons look incredible in 16 but Odin didn't get enough love 😢 ... Also, no cactuar or tonberry, but possible dlc stuff 🤷♂️
Leviathan
Alexander :/
You fight all of them plus more in FF14. The design concept is already there with the team. I have a strong feeling they'll add King Moggle Mog if they do DLC for FF16.
Imo XVI Odin was the best one definitely better than XVI Bahamut wich was horrible
A me è piaciuto di più final Fantasy XV...del XVI
man you should include Louisoix Pierce Bahamut in ff14
its literally same scene how Clive and Joshua Pierce Bahamut
still mad the garuda summon in xv was like the only one you would summon mostly after doing the mission
Ya I figured out it’s because she can be summoned once per day so it will spawn her always smh
Honestly, I’d say 15’s Ramuh and Shiva are superior. I’ll leave out Leviathan until they show it in a dlc.
I definitely prefer 15 Ramuh's design, especially the ixion staff, as a nod to 10. Ff15 Ramuh was also the most faithful in terms of helping the party.
I’d say ramuh yeah I like the beard more but shiva doesn’t have the look of a shiva it looks kind of like a pixie in 15 also the multiple shivas make her look even smaller and more pixie like something more acute to magus sisters also she looks more skimpy than majestic but of course all this is subjective
I don’t think any design in 15 look as good as they do in 16. Which is fine, 16 is a summon focused game. And it knocks all other summons in the series completely out
@@rebirthofgodrics907that’s shiva after she died or w/e so I guess she’s weaker. Her real body is so big you can see it on the niflheim map. Her real height is like 200 ft tall.
Hard disagree on Shiva, 16 looks way better
15 Looked good for it's time but the next gen leap is so gorgeous. Cannot wait to see what's in store for the next for FF17...I have a feeling it's an MMO......and I'm okay with that.
Im ok with another mmo but they should wait until FF19 or something cause 14 is still rocking it
The next one will be crazy. As the PS5 pro or PS6 will be out by time they actually develop it.
What? No it won't?
Me who only have played 15 and 16.. idk what the veterans are angry about 😮😮😮
I personally ain't mad but start from the beninging (misspelled on purpose) and you'll probably end up liking some of the past iterations of the summons/eikons (design wise) a bit better, emphasis on "some" cuz if you're a Garuda fan then you WILL NOT like what she used to be in the old games lol but in the case of the other ones alot of the times they did look alot better and their attacks were often times WAAAAAY more flashy then they have been in the newer games.
Me who has played from the first game’s release-me either
Bros be mad that 16 isn’t some fictional mashup of the previous games that doesn’t actually exist.
@@javieracevedo2362 heard the old ff's are pure turn based.. nah fam im not patient enough for turn based no offense tho
@@dan4455 not saying to play them...
@javieracevedo2362 not really the case for me, still like newer ff games more. past games hasnt really aged well except for story and music.
I did not know there is a Garuda summon in 15 whoa
It was added after the XIV crossover. It looks pretty cool, just unfortunate that it was side content.
@@gateauxq4604 yeah I was surprised. I thought there was content I missed before lol
Yea you get the summon after fighting the FFXIV version of Garuda as a boss.
I mean, 16 aren't summons, they are straight up boss fights. So there isnt much comparing to do.
Yeah FF16 version is far better especially with Titan and Bahamut.
Honestly i like FFXV summons more. It felt so "Majestic" when it come out, and after they left, it affected the environment, which is awesome. Imagine if they make it on PS5.. the graphic will be on par with FFXVI's Eikons.
I think one thing that actually hurts the sense of scale in XVI is that there ceases to be any human beings or human-scale architecture to compare the Eikons to after the first couple of fights. When the smallest thing in the scene is Ifrit, it's hard to fully comprehend the size of Titan or Bahamut. The scenes involving all the Astrals in XV are awe-inspiring /because/ there's a tiny little person or a massive skyscraper of known size right there to show you just how big they are.
Shiva and ifrit in final fantasy 15 are good looking and in final fantasy 16 they look wild
the AOT punch in garuda fight still gets me every time
Ngl, the summons in FFXV always felt so… underused. They were kinda relevant to the plot, but most of them just appear once and them disappear never to be seen again (tbh the only actually cool summons were Leviathan and Bahamut)
Final fantasy 8 ifrit and final fantasy 16 ifrit almost same, and the bahamut too. For shiva maybe ff15 near it to ff16. And ramuh in ff8 called quezacotl. Oh and odin in ff8 almost same with odin ff16
This makes me want to get the remastered FF15
Have you checked put FFXV Royal Edition? I heard it solves the problems of the normal one
In 15 i feel that i summoned Ramuh 90% of the time
Since when did noctis fight Garuda? I never saw that fight. Come to think of it i barely saw any of the summons in 15. And when i did it was always Ramah.
Garuda fight and summon in 15 are from a special side quest crossover with FF14, you meet a Miqo'te and she asks you to stop the summoning of FF14's Garuda, as reward you get FF14's cotumes for all the characters based on the playable races of FF14.
Honestly Ramuh looks way cooler in XV
13:36 blue eyes white dragon, destruction burst stream
Garuda vs Ifrit in ffxvin more like, Attac Titan vs Female Titan
That's exactly what I was thinking when I first saw this fight. Glad someone else see it the same way as me.
Garuda in FF16 is a total babe. I said it. And I mean it lol
Same
Everyone in the comments just so casually glancing over the fact that Bahamut has zettaflare now meaning Donald from kingdom hearts has been dethroned as the only zettaflare user lol.
Personally don't like the look of ff16's Bahamut but that use of zettaflare has won my heart, he is now one of the coolest iterations of the character ever
Yeah 16 has more interesting designs across the board. Ramuh is pretty similar though, but I enjoy 16's version more since he looks more majestic. Bahamut in 15 being a knight and no dragon makes it stand out more but Bahamut in 16 is perhaps the coolest moment in vg history.
The only thing done better in 15 was garudas design I think that design is really nice other than that 16 has the best design when I first started playing it was hard for me to choose a favorite ekion they're all so cool bahumat and odin are probably my favorite now
@@rushpatriot2866 Odin is the coolest by far for me. Incredibly epic, all of them are extremely cool, they knocked them out of the park
The designs in 16 look so good
only like 15 shiva
the rest one i prefer 16
Same. 16 Shiva is too "adorable" for me lol
The FF16 Eikons literally just feel like incarnated gods of nature. The 14 ones feel like Persona summons.
FF16 really really outclass 15.
Really false
Story wise and character growth?No. Everything else? Yes. I mean it’s made after 15 so it should be better.
@@addiowl8538 yes, graphic is clearly better.
@@MrCanhaha FF15 on pc with max setting look as good as 16 if not better. Some areas in 15 still look very impressive.
@@TheManaTree777 It’s quite hard to compare PC with console. If I compare only summon screen in the clip, 16 doing better. But I heard 5 got some update, maybe I try it after I finish 16. 😁
Ff 16 im glad their budget is not how open world the game is but more cinematic and enggaging story
Bruh FF16 shiva is best shiva 💯 facts.
Nah, looks generic
I always wondered why Bahamut didn't just kill Ifrit in 15....... I mean look how massive the damn thing is
FF16 Ramuh = Gandalf
Hey if Cid wants to be Gandalf he can be Gandalf.
I will still love how ff15 summon are god deux ex machina. But nothing comes close in the serie to what they did to them with ff16. After all those years our beloved summon needed this games. Can futur entry can even top that ?
How the hell do you summon shiva in XV?
The summons in xv are situation based. Shiva needs one or more party members to be downed.
@@nightfears3005 so definitely not a plausible outcome with a team of level 90s.
For the love of god, please Square Enix , release it on PC!!!
I'll wait even if it takes 2 years
On PC next year
the plan is some time next year but nothing is concrete
FFXV bahamut looks like Odin like why didn't they just name it with that?
I'd also compare it to Alexander or even a Dragoon Knight.
16 Shiva looks so hot bro I cannot take it
Bahamut XV is actually great design wise. IF it was a different character lol. Bahamut was a dragon or humanoid dragon, not this guy who looked like it came from the edgy convention and won the competition there.
I thought the armor was like based off of old warriors of light kinda stuff but aight
There is a story reason for that on Dawn of the Future
XV Bahamut actually looks exactly like Noctis and similar to Somnus (Ardyn's brother) and they're apparently that way by design of Bahamut and the dude is so in love with himself that this is possibly the reason he chose Somnus instead of Ardyn and quite possibly one of the if no the main reason he made the other suffer so much and actively tried to deny him as the true king
@@Force-Multiplier Dawn of the Future is really just badly written fanfic for Ardyn fans and purists. The amount of salt and seething I saw beacuse Bahamut was displayed as not evil was something.
@@carlosoliveira2965 idk honestly in paper it can sound one way but it all ultimately depends on the full context and how the actors give life to the scenes
if it had been added to the game i would have definitely have had an opinion on the matter but i can't really judge on Dawn of the Future alone
also keep in mind that Bahamut doing Ardyn dirty like that just for spite is not the whole story there is also the fact that he was extremely infected by the Plasmodium Malariae at that point too but the man sure seems to love himself lol
Man, I beat FF15 and I don’t remember a single thing about that story other than the beginning and ending scenes.
I guess people forget the summons from ff7 crisis core 😢 how epic they were.
why have i only ever seen the Ramuh summon in ffxv? are the summons special side quests?
Some appear almost everywhere and others only on set areas/fights, Shiva, ramuh and garuda appear a lot, others are too big so they are a little restricted, like titan and leviathan. Bahamut just get summoned 2 times, once against ifrit and another time in a cutscene if you have the royal edition update, and the last one is carbuncle appearing on easy mode if you played the platinum demo.
Ramuh appear more than others because his attack can get everywhere basically, with his staff piercing through underground/indoor areas, the longer a fight goes the bigger the chance to get him to appear(very easy to happen).
Garuda is a collab side quest summon that you unlock, after you get her she appears a lot, I think she works like ramuh but only outside(easy to happen).
Titan appear in very wide outdoor areas and is more likely to appear if your allies are downed(a little complicated).
Leviathan appears in very wide outdoor areas next to large bodies of water and is more likely to appear if noctis is in danger, hardest one to get since you always get healed and not many places fit the description, luckily the final area lets you summon her more easily(hard af outside of final area).
Shiva appears in indoor and outdoor areas and she's more likely to appear if you're in danger, the fight is taking long and/or your allies are downed(kinda common)
Carbuncle only gets unlocked if you played the platinum demo and he only appears on easy mode, idk how easy it is to summon, since I played the demo on a friend's console and Square Enix removed the demo for some stupid reason 1 year later.
i feel like Bahamut 16 is trying to create the FOURTH impact in valisthea
C'mon Square. Remake or reboot that Xenogears and bring those mecha battle to latest gen game.
In Final Fantasy 15, I was only ever able to summon Ramuh.
14:45 -15:02
Ah yes, the Strike Freedom, piloted by Donald Duck…
15’s Ifrit being a twink was the weirdest thing they could possibly have done 😂
Ifrit in 16 is literally driven by plot armor, taking down everyone like that. 😂
I don't really get the point of comparing these two games ? FFXV summons are assets that can be used in any battle while FFXVI summons are only scripted cinematic boss fights.
Of course, we expect a lot more from a scripted cinematic fight than a cinematic usable in any battle
Its just comparing the presentation of the summons in each game, its not deep.
The strange thing is that XV /does/ have scripted cinematic scenes that might be more appropriate to compare with XV that weren't used here -- most notably involving the Titan and Leviathan fights, the speedboat sequence in Episode Ignis, the pre-Citadel scene in Royal Edition, and the lead-in to the final boss fight in Comrades.
It's still difficult to compare, though, because XV maintains the same engine for basically everything while XVI completely switches playstyles and perspectives for the scripted fights.
Graphical improvements.
Designwise, 15 has a better looking Ramuh.
this has to be a troll because 15 Ramuh looks budget version of 16 Ramuh lmfao
@Mirage4492 personally I prefer the long flowing sleeves on his robe in 15 and how his staff looks like ixion
@@Mirage4492no need to get butthurt over others opinions and get so defensive
@@Mirage4492poor guy
@@supanjibobu372 lol I'm butthurt and defensive just because I thought this has to be a troll comment? Are you an infant getting introduced in the internet? LMFAOOO
FF16👍👍👍
No
All boss battles in FF16 is just unparalleled and levels above every Final Fantasy games in the series.
We should expect this trend to continue (hopefully)