Mary Shelley and the Creation of "Frankenstein"

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  • Today were looking at the biography of Mary Shelley and, especially, how it laid the foundation for her to create “Frankenstein”. I am very grateful to have been sent a beautiful facsimile copy of the original manuscript of “Frankenstein” by Mary Shelley by S P Books (which I will be showing off in this video). They have loads of fascinating facsimiles; check them out at: www.spbooks.co...
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    Intro / Outro song: Silent Partner, "Greenery" [ • Greenery - Silent Part... ]
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    Images (from Wikimedia Commons, unless otherwise stated):
    Portrait of William Godwin by James Northcote (1802). Held by the National Portrait Gallery.
    Portrait of Mary Wollstonecraft by John Opie (c. 1797). Held by the National Portrait Gallery.
    Screenshots from: Oxford Dictionary of National Biography entry for Mary Shelley; Oxford English Dictionary entries for “Deism” and “Pantheism”.
    “Posthumous Portrait of Shelley Writing Prometheus Unbound” by Joseph Severn (1845). Held by the Keats-Shelley Memorial House, Rome, Italy.
    Portrait of Mary Shelley by Richard Rothwell (exhibited 1840). Held by the National Portrait Gallery.
    Portrait of Claire Clairmont by Amelia Curran (1819). Held by Newstead Abbey.
    Portrait of William Shelley by Amelia Curran (1819). Held in an unknown collection.
    Portrait of Lord Byron by Richard Westall (1813). Held by the National Portrait Gallery.
    Caricature of Sir Percy Florence Shelley Bt. Published in “Vanity Fair”, 13 December 1879.
    A still from the film Frankenstein (1910), showing Charles Stanton Ogle as the monster. The Edison Kinetogram 2 (4). Orange, N.J.: Thomas A. Edison Inc.
    Screenshots from Germaine Greer’s article in The Guardian in 2007 - “Yes, Frankenstein really was written by Mary Shelley. It's obvious - because the book is so bad”: www.theguardia...
    #History #LiteraryHistory #Frankenstein

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  • @realitycheck4842
    @realitycheck4842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Your little boy is so lucky to have such a wonderfully talented mother to read him stories and awaken and encourage his imagination.

    • @jebfallen
      @jebfallen ปีที่แล้ว

      That was Creepy

    • @Xephyr1
      @Xephyr1 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jebfallen it is not creepy. you're just dirty minded.

  • @jaycorwin1625
    @jaycorwin1625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I disagree with Germaine Greer's assessment of Frankenstein. I think it's beautifully written and original, and seems to have nothing to do with gender neuroses but with moral or philosophical questions of the period (subtitle, the Modern Prometheus should have indicated that to old Germaine there). Do we only read Mary Shelley because she was a woman? I didn't, and I don't recommend Frankenstein because it was written by a woman but because it is original and the prose is lyrical, which provides a counterbalance to the novel's psychological horror. If you have to focus more on the gender of the author than on the quality of writing (which Germaine Greer has clearly done, blinded by her own cynicism), then the result is a critique of the author, not an honest appraisal of the work. It seems she lost the plot with the word "abortion."

    • @EmoBearRights
      @EmoBearRights 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      When is Greer not wrong?

    • @jaycorwin1625
      @jaycorwin1625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@EmoBearRights Sometimes her opinions can be unpopular, especially over current issues, but I do genuinely admire her intellect and her fearlessness. If you haven't seen it, here is a good interview she gave a view years ago on the BBC: th-cam.com/video/7B8Q6D4a6TM/w-d-xo.html

    • @EmoBearRights
      @EmoBearRights 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I'm not interested in what Greer has to say. I've actually seen a work colleague on the verge of tears because of her sure she's intelligent but what good is it if you don't have an open mind when it comes to admitting opinions which contradict her own preduices. I think she's a misanthroptist who is only interested in attention.

    • @EmoBearRights
      @EmoBearRights 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      True bravery is confronting what you fear or allowing yourself to be vulnerable about what is right and admitting when you're wrong not giving a damn is NOT true bravery.

    • @jaycorwin1625
      @jaycorwin1625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Her intelligence is good for sparking lively debate. One doesn't need to be accepting of everything to be of value. That was likely the impetus for her writings and the impact they have had on the modern world.

  • @annewren8845
    @annewren8845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I found this video extremely interesting, because I Volenteer at the Shelley Theatre in Boscombe, Bournemouth.
    Marys’ parents owned Shelley Manor in Boscombe, where Mary came to live.
    Whilst there, she commissioned a theatre to be built, so that she could put on plays etc.
    Mary could see how the work was progressing from her bedroom window.
    Sadly she died before it’s completion, so her son Percy Shelley jr completed the work in her memory.
    Sadly, because of Covid, the theatres’ been closed for over a year, but it will re-open when the restrictions are lifted.
    It’s very atmospheric, and of it’s time, and well worth a visit if you’re a fan of Mary Shelley.

  • @ns-wz1mx
    @ns-wz1mx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    listening to this in the middle of a crazy thunderstorm, couldn’t have worked out more perfect

    • @gonefishing167
      @gonefishing167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      🤣🤣🤣. Hope you don’t have a dog like mine 🙏🙏🙏🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

    • @Heothbremel
      @Heothbremel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Delightful!

    • @pamelaoliver8442
      @pamelaoliver8442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it was lol

    • @l.plantagenet2539
      @l.plantagenet2539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I live in Mobile,Alabama and we had a tropical storm named, Claudette come through this morning so I'm right there with you. ⛈🌪

    • @savyjett
      @savyjett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Guaranteed nightmares.

  • @C.G.Hassack
    @C.G.Hassack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Germaine does herself a disservice by her need for a controversial statement.

    • @KatrinaLeFey
      @KatrinaLeFey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      She's a tiresome woman

    • @C.G.Hassack
      @C.G.Hassack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@KatrinaLeFey I'm inclined to agree.

    • @gailcbull
      @gailcbull 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Greer's comment about Frankenstein proves that she suffers from the "academic's disease". She mistakes controversy for originality and dismissiveness for cleverness.

    • @margo3367
      @margo3367 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s the problem with tunnel vision. It’s limiting.

  • @DrewSohl
    @DrewSohl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Mary had such a sad life,her loss of her mother, father, children, siblings,and husband,all had a profound impact.The monster also felt abandonment,even the undead feel lonliness.⚡

    • @Terri_MacKay
      @Terri_MacKay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I've read the book several times, and it never fails to bring me to tears. It's a brilliant novel of soul shattering sadness.

    • @701delbronx8
      @701delbronx8 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Except she didn’t write Frankenstein, it was her husband Percy.

  • @phoenixchi64
    @phoenixchi64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Really enjoyed this, thank you! Would love a similar review of the inspiration behind Bram Stoker's "Dracula"... 😁

  • @nathanjurjevich217
    @nathanjurjevich217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I love this book, and I first read it in 11th grade. My teacher had us write a research paper on it, whether it be a character analysis or some book review. When I read Frankenstein, I saw Mary Shelley as the monster, wandering the world, abandoned, finding purpose and discovering meaning. I struggled writing this paper because I couldn’t find adequate sources to back me up and it was challenging work especially for a high school student. Looking back I wish I could re-write it knowing what I know now, but I’m proud of that paper because for one of the first times, it forced me to walk in another’s shoes and see a different perspective, namely feminism and trying to do better despite society’s standards. Both are things that were not actively taught in school or at home for me. Loved your video on this topic!

    • @lunar686
      @lunar686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Brilliantly said, I honestly loved this video too. I remember when I first read Frankenstein in high school as part of required reading, I didn’t have any appreciation for the subject, and I don’t remember any appreciation being encouraged in students either. However, when I came back to it during my time at university, I found the incredible depth in the work that truly spoke to the human experience

  • @yensid4294
    @yensid4294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I always had a somewhat different take on Frankenstein. Sure, it's about alienation & Creation & the human condition/search for meaning--no argument there. But I saw it also as an allegory for the pain & anguish of the creative process. The alienation many artists feel & their anxiety about their work--is it good, how will it be received, how will I be judged for creating it, etc. So you have Divine Creation, Human Creation & Artistic Creation all being explored in one story. At least that was my interpretation. I must say, that facsimile copy of the book is an amazing gift & addition to your library. Thank you for sharing it with us 👍

  • @rachelbutler3367
    @rachelbutler3367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    While the parent-child aspects of Frankenstein's relationship with his monster are impossible to ignore, the argument that this is reflective of the fear of birthing a monster seems to miss the mark. I always felt that relationship was a means of exploring the nature vs nurture argument: are monsters "gestated" or are they made by their childhood experiences? Although Frankenstein views the monster as such from its "birth" and flees from its perceived evil, the monster accuses Frankenstein of making it cruel and murderous through his abandonment. It is explicitly suggested in the text that, had the monster been raised and taught with affection, it might never have been a true monster. Additionally, the monster refers to Frankenstein as a creator and father, which implies that the narrative may be more reflective of Mary's potential feelings regarding her lack of emotional connection with her father (an emotional abandonment perhaps?). It is also possible that the focus on paternal abandonment indicates some fear that Percy Shelley might one day abandon Mary's children as he did the children of his first wife.

    • @elisealbrektsen8647
      @elisealbrektsen8647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      This is such an interesting take on the novel, and one that I share. I haven't read Frankenstein for a long time, but I kind of remember focussing on the tragic love story between Victor Frankenstein and - correct me if I'm wrong - Elizabeth Lavenza, upon first reading it. Frankenstein is so obsessed with his experiment to "create life" that he ignores and pushes the people who love him away, and in turn, fails to recognise his innate power to create life with the woman he (presumably) loves. I think, given the fact that Mary Shelley had lost a baby recently, that this is maybe a reflection of her's and Percy's shared grief on losing the child, and their, perhaps, desperate want of a child? It shows, perhaps, how differently one can deal with the responsibilites (and emotional and material "risks") of the creation of life ... There is just so much to unpack and learn from this novel!

    • @sharonkaczorowski8690
      @sharonkaczorowski8690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed…

  • @dewrock2622
    @dewrock2622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I must confess that I much prefer these kind of videos you make, to the ones who are zoom conversations. I learn so much this way

    • @marpop4056
      @marpop4056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I totally agree. I subscribed because I love learning in-depth history, especially about people,. However, I think that maybe having a baby to take care of may leave less time for the research and preparation that a weekly program entails.

  • @denisehill7769
    @denisehill7769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I can't say I liked "Frankenstein" but that's due to my own limitations. Whatever one thinks of the book, it stands even today as an amazing creation out of the brain of an interesting strong woman, its influence is still great - which makes me feel all the sadder to hear that she was left at the mercy of her puppetmaster father-in-law, having endured the loss of her children and her husband's infidelity(ies). I only hope he was worth it. The part of the book I found the most engaging was the end where the Creature follows Frankenstein to the frozen arctic wastes; the sense of bone-chillingly cold isolation is palpable, and I'm now left wondering how far Mary herself experienced this as an outsider herself; an educated daughter of two unconventional people, living an unconventional life. Her ending is particularly poignant. Thank you for the video, I really enjoyed it! :) xxx

  • @lspthrattan
    @lspthrattan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    OK, that is one cool book they sent! Interesting topic, as usual. Germaine Greer's take is interesting, but a tad harsh; I'm not so sure it's amoral to dread the idea of birthing a "monster". I do look forward to these videos of yours every week. Thank you for making them!

    • @barbarak2836
      @barbarak2836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Interesting interpretation, though.

    • @gladtobefreeagain7375
      @gladtobefreeagain7375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Given the harsh social & sexual standards of the Victorian era Mary Shelley's worry about birthing (or being) a social pariah is exactly what comes with Gothic novels to come after her. But her work is genius because it forces the reader to question social mores that are inhumane & that suppress creativity, kindness, love. She discovered a way to pose a reconsideration of Prometheus, Adam, Eve & Deists. What happens to the unsanctioned offspring & intellectual works? We still create art, including scifi using her model. She earned her place in our culture as a feminine icon.

    • @janehollander1934
      @janehollander1934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gladtobefreeagain7375 ,
      Mary Shelley grew up, worked & lived the biggest part of her life (1797-1851) during the 'Georgian Age'. The 'Victorian Era' is set between 1832 (1837)- 1901.✌🏻

  • @lynnedelacy2841
    @lynnedelacy2841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Shelley has never been the same to me having seen an overly dramatic half naked statue of Shelley, in Oxford, his body prone ,his face writhed in torment and his arm outstretched pleadingly to the viewer and in his upturned palm - someone had placed a Big Mac…

  • @misslornamae
    @misslornamae 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Love hearing such an intelligent woman talk about the past, a topic usually discussed by men. Would love to see you cover her mother, such an amazing feminist of the time.

  • @BrittleSun
    @BrittleSun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Out of curiosity was Mary Shelley pregnant when she wrote Frankenstein? I too think there is a subliminal theme of motherhood and the fears and risks and darkness associated with that.

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      At least part of it. I don't know if she knew she was pregnant at the time she started but she certainly was throughout the process, as she had two children by the time she finished it, not counting her daughter who died after being born prematurely after their first return to England.

  • @--enyo--
    @--enyo-- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The volcano causing the storm was truely staggering in its effect. If anyone wants a quick (20 minute) overview of the sheer scale of this volcano that affected the whole world for years, here: th-cam.com/video/9nJDTR6R7Gc/w-d-xo.html
    It also talks about Mary Shelley and Frankenstein, although obviously much less depth than here.

    • @katescrimgeour3884
      @katescrimgeour3884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just watched the video on Tambora - very interesting - thanks for posting the link.

  • @dianegrooters6977
    @dianegrooters6977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Very Interesting topic Dr. Kat. Such heartache, can't imagine the loss of a child, not to mention more than one. Such a strong talented, driven woman, looking for love, possibly passing on her heartbreak to her own creation. Maybe a cathartic exercise somehow.

  • @theclassicso8094
    @theclassicso8094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Dr. Kat, thank you. I use the story about the creation of "Frankenstein" and the weather conditions as a result of the volcanic eruption in the atmospheric science classes I teach. The students find the story fascinating, and I'm glad to see you discussing this. Your presentation is far better than anything I could present. I think my students will enjoy your presentation.

    • @--enyo--
      @--enyo-- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You might like this one too: th-cam.com/video/9nJDTR6R7Gc/w-d-xo.html

    • @NicoleM_radiantbaby
      @NicoleM_radiantbaby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@--enyo-- Thanks for that link! I love Simon's stuff and all the stuff with 'The Year Without A Summer', but managed to somehow miss this video!

    • @l.plantagenet2539
      @l.plantagenet2539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There was one in or right before 546A.D. but you might already know that. Apparently, that was the worst year on record because of the volcano.

    • @theclassicso8094
      @theclassicso8094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@l.plantagenet2539 Yes. I do. And I show that one too. Thank you.

    • @l.plantagenet2539
      @l.plantagenet2539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@theclassicso8094 I just recently watched a video on TH-cam and found it really interesting. Never realized how one volcano can cause such misery and darkness over the entire earth.

  • @QueenBee-gx4rp
    @QueenBee-gx4rp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Everything you do is so interesting! After being injured in an accident recently, it’s been wonderful to listen to something intelligent! Many thanks 😊.

  • @rycoli
    @rycoli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love the topic! Thank you Dr.
    Any chance of a Bram Stoker video?? 😉 🦇

    • @Shane-Flanagan
      @Shane-Flanagan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good idea 👍

    • @hiwakoo
      @hiwakoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or Dr. Polidori?

    • @rycoli
      @rycoli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yessss

  • @jared1870
    @jared1870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I saw who posted and the subject matter and automatically liked. I enjoy the mental stimulation I receive from this channel.

  • @mariemcgowan-irving6156
    @mariemcgowan-irving6156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Of course a woman wrote it, it's bad" is a terrible thing for a woman who traded for years on her reputation as an academic and feminist to say.
    I have always found Mary Shelley to be a fascinating historical figure.

    • @janebaker966
      @janebaker966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      IMO Germaine G and a bunch of those other early 1970s so called feminists were all a bunch of old frauds.

  • @Hochspitz
    @Hochspitz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Greer is a strange one -;))

    • @janebaker966
      @janebaker966 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keeps quiet these days and tends her Australian garden I think.

  • @j7333nnn
    @j7333nnn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks, can't wait to read biographies of the Shelleys. And we thought we were having a sexual revolution in the 1960s !!

  • @petersdotter1
    @petersdotter1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We tend to forget that due to medical innovation, our lives are very different from such a short time ago. Death from childbirth and infant mortality were prominent features of their lives. We tend to put death in a place to visit as rarely as possible, but deaths by illness in a time before antibiotics was completely normal. She suffered many losses, and that had to be a part of her outlook. The story also rings true today for that reason, but also as a warning about technology in the way our current horror stories often center around dystopian robots outthinking mankind, and technology going rogue.

  • @kathleenkaar6557
    @kathleenkaar6557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very interest. What a tragic life she led .

  • @itsmainelyyou5541
    @itsmainelyyou5541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beautifully done, Dr. Kat! I always viewed Frankenstein as a story in partial facet about the self and what we struggle to become against the constraint of what we are, and what is expected of us. It is the story of what we birth within ourselves. We fail, more often than not. It is a true onion as the best stories always are. What a fascinating women she was. On my short list of people I sorely wish I could speak to.

  • @dawnvickerstaff9148
    @dawnvickerstaff9148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always thought Frankenstein was as much about overweening vanity and hubris as lonliness, abandonement and never being understood, and as such falls squarely in the realm of 'male' sensibilities, as especially evidenced in the 18th and 19th centuries. Mary Shelley was perfectly able to channel that thought process and the resulting behaviour in an era when women were not allowed to do much of anything. Her observations are acute and Germaine Greer sadly, lacks that acuity. Still. I never understood why she was thought to be such a feminist voice. Mary Shelley and her mother far outstripped Germaine Greer there. Thank you for all your videos. I so look forward to the intellectual stimulation when I see you've posted a new one.

  • @kimstill7611
    @kimstill7611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much for this.
    I'm not a fan of any movie representation of this brilliant work of literature.
    I read FRANKENSTEIN after I graduated college with a BFA (emphasis: Drawing & Painting).
    In my humble opinion, it's certainly a psychological study of the human condition.
    In conclusion, I am gonna read it again for a 40 year perspective on my opinion.
    I'll try to remember to update my opinion. Although, I doubt it will be much different.

  • @eagleeye2300
    @eagleeye2300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You are an interesting and well spoken speaker. (Lol, say that 3 times quickly!) Thank you so much! Do you do all of your own research?

  • @historybuff7491
    @historybuff7491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I guess I have the advantage of knowing that Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein. So when I read it, I had no doubt that a woman wrote it. I remember tearing up in some places of the novel, not so much from what was taking place in that part, but from the overwhelming pain that seemed to be coming from the author. The sense of loss of love ones was so obvious, however, I had no idea what Shelley, herself, had suffered at that time. I had assumed that someone from the early 1800s had lost family as was seemingly so often the case. I thought Shelley had captured that, and poured it into her novel.

    • @--enyo--
      @--enyo-- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You say ‘I have the advantage’ like it’s not common knowledge. 🤨

    • @historybuff7491
      @historybuff7491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@--enyo-- Your right, poor writing on my part. I meant, that I never heard that someone else may have written it.

  • @claireconolly8355
    @claireconolly8355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lovely to listen to you today! It's a crazy storm here (in NL). Have a great weekend Dr Kat :-)

  • @barrywerdell2614
    @barrywerdell2614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Two things: I compliment you on a fantastic lecture about an interesting subject and using the earliest version known for a picture of the monster (I think it was even done by Thomas Edison ). And in the movie "Bride of Frankenstein" Elsa Lanchester plays Mary Shelley in a kind of follow-up introduction to the second movie.

  • @nohjuan3048
    @nohjuan3048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always thought the Monster in Frankenstein represents Mary Shelley herself, a hybrid being created from the parts of her whacky out-of-step parents, fashioned into a lost soul by the warped morality of Percy Shelley himself. She was unwelcome in society, like the monster. She had to flee and hide across Europe, like the monster, because of Percy's constant accumulation of unpayable debts. She was made a pariah, like the monster, by living in sin with a married man. Did anyone ever realize she was the young teenage victim of an older man, like the monster was the victim of Frankenstein's tinkering? Maybe when the monster starts its murderous rampage, it's Mary lashing out at the ones who have created her and labeled her. Maybe the monster's plea for a mate like himself was a plea by Mary to find a soulmate from among those who understand what her life was like.

  • @alexiamills3682
    @alexiamills3682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I Love your Channel❤️Can you make some videos on Eleanor of Aquitaine, Lady Cathy Gordon's life 💖

  • @ImCarolB
    @ImCarolB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Germaine Greer must live in her own bubble. It's an interesting idea, but I seriously doubt that Mary even subconsciously had that in mind. It's a universal tale of creating something you might not be able deal with and the implications of responsibility.

  • @jdmaine919
    @jdmaine919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So excited for this video! I happen to think Frankenstein was the best thing ever written, and never fail to be moved by it when I read it. That copy of the manuscript is fabulous!

  • @jennypengelley8408
    @jennypengelley8408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is yet another of your very interesting and informative videos. I think the story of Dr Frankenstein is a remarkable one and, unlike Ms Greer, I have always found it moving, having read it a number of times. What is especially curious it's that as I move (inexorably) through life's stages, my experience of the books I read regularly, changes; I would say that I have the sense of the book expanding within my understandings of it. This is true with 'Frankenstein' as it is with the variety of books that I read and reread including - To Kill A Mockingbird; Wuthering Heights, The Lord of the Rings, and Gone With The Wind, to mention but a few. Goodness, I certainly didn't know all of that was in my head when I started - I think that it is the quality of your ideas and the way you present said ideas that got my mind a-whirring! Many thanks Kat

  • @jjudy5869
    @jjudy5869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I sat behind someone reviewing a movie one time. I don't know what movie he was reviewing but it wasn't the one I saw. I find the same thing happens with book reviews. I don't know what book they were reading but I wasn't the one I read. Imposing your world view on someone else's writing particularly when it was written a hundred to a hundred-fifty years ago is in my opinion blasphemous.

  • @kickthespike
    @kickthespike 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really interesting as always. I have no idea what Germaine Greer is on about!

    • @janebaker966
      @janebaker966 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      She was never off our tvs in the 1970s for two reasons,one,she was stunningly good looking snd two,she could always be relied on to say something outrageous. Daft old trout.

  • @Goddessofvets16
    @Goddessofvets16 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the historical gems you choose to educate your audience about.... you never fail to present both sides of an issue and explain it in context to the times, both present and when the topic occurred in the past. I'll remain a loyal fan! Kiss the baby for us all! He's so lucky to have you and your husband for parents and educators! Liz Barton

  • @mickeykolody7773
    @mickeykolody7773 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting topic! I find Mary's life to be quite unusual / radical considering the times, and I wonder how the impact of the Napoleonic wars had on her perspective.

  • @alexwholey3391
    @alexwholey3391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I studied Frankenstein at university and always enjoyed the book. Thank you for this video ☺️

  • @prettypic444
    @prettypic444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Frankenstien is one of the rare books which I think is actually improved when you know the author's biography. knowing that Mary Shelley's parents were philosophers, was encouraged to learn and read, and had some major family drama just adds so much more depth to the story. the feminist themes it reveals alone are fascinating (it's why i always insist on calling "the monster" Frankenstein as well as the doctor)

  • @marpop4056
    @marpop4056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really enjoyed this episode. I don't agree with Germain Greer that this is a woman's story because a woman fears what she will give birth to. However, I can understand how Victor Frankenstein might have wished he had aborted his creation. Thus, I could understand the story being written by a man who, without considering the consequences, impregnates a woman and then abandons her and the child. One of the ideas of creation to consider is: Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD do it. There are so many other philosophical issues. Here's a link to a very good discussion of the book: www.prageru.com/video/gina-bontempo-frankenstein-by-mary-shelley/

  • @yoclark2723
    @yoclark2723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! what a wonderful book to have! I read Frankenstein years ago but still think about the monster and his horrified creator. I agree that it is evident that the book is written by a female as she softens the character of the monster as the story progresses. It could be that we get to know the mind of the monster and therefore identify with it. The abandonment issue is a strong one as well. He accuses Frankenstein of looking at him in disgust and horror at the moment of his "birth" and abandoning it to face life alone with the self loathing that it's father has instilled in it.

  • @sarahhales1505
    @sarahhales1505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Frankenstein! I first read it in middle school, while I was on vacation with the family to Disney World. We had a day of no parks, so we spent the day at the pool and just loafing around the hotel. I couldn’t put the book down, and finished it in at two days. My husband bought me a beautiful copy for Christmas 2020!
    I still think that Mary sometimes identified more with the monster than with her young protagonist. She seemed to always be looking for love and connection.

  • @chrismyles1538
    @chrismyles1538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear Germaine Greer, Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

  • @johnguglielmini6658
    @johnguglielmini6658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i always hearcd that the story came about in part because of shelleys migraines any truth in that?

  • @pal7252
    @pal7252 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is so sad of what happened to Mary in her lifetime. But she was brilliant. 🥰

  • @anthonyochocki6535
    @anthonyochocki6535 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG....😱....Global Warming was the underlying Climatic reason for the book ''Frankenstein"? My, my-----

  • @kaarlimakela3413
    @kaarlimakela3413 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    An ORIGINAL story. Not drawn from Shakespeare or Dickens or the Grimms.
    Brilliant. Her story has been reworked and sourced many times.

  • @kashesan
    @kashesan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your thoughts on Ken Russell's surreal vision in the movie "Gothic"? I have to admit I loved the casting (Natasha Richardson, Julian Sands, Gabriel Byrne, Miriam Cyr)

  • @janehollander1934
    @janehollander1934 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    😳Woaw so your pregnant wife drowns herself on Nov. the 9th - but she isn't found till Dec. the 10th. And you marry you Lover on Dec. the 30th. Talking about taking your sweet time😏.
    Makes me think about Hamlet's comment on how; "the funeral baked meats, did coldly furnish forth the marriage tables".
    Bit disturbing I think. But then again they probably saw themselves as free spirited, liberated and bohemia, I guess.

  • @kathleenkaar6557
    @kathleenkaar6557 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr. Kat, Might you give us your review of Charles Spencer’s new book THE WHITE SHIP? Have seen some comments that question his historical assumptions…

  • @sabrinadimonte5922
    @sabrinadimonte5922 ปีที่แล้ว

    Talking about human rights, the story of Justin, wrongly accused of the murder of little William and and killed, is an interesting example of mistreatment of Justice.

  • @DesertThunderDownUnder
    @DesertThunderDownUnder 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watching this from Brisbane Australia. I am and have always been a sincere admirer of Mary’s works. No doubt her earlier years of infancy and the loss of her beloved mother informed the bones of her gift to write. Her father’s dutiful influence crafted that talent throughout her life. The unrelenting debauchery of Percy’s chosen lifestyle, deaths & loss - a young mother’s interminable cycle of grief pegged Mary to no end, and still she survived. One of the greatest writers of all time, not just her time. 📖❤

  • @youtuber5305
    @youtuber5305 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this quote apply to Frankenstein?:
    - We decided to play God, create life. When that life turned against us, we comforted ourselves in the knowledge that it really wasn't our fault, not really. You cannot play God then wash your hands of the things that you've created. Sooner or later, the day comes when you can't hide from the things that you've done anymore.
    "Battlestar Galactica" (Commander Adama)

  • @anneedge3627
    @anneedge3627 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wouldn’t be too concerned about Germaine Greer’s criticism of Mary Shelley’s opus. I have a hard time to respect this woman after her decision to take down Rohinton Mistry’s novel, A Fine Balance, Winner of the Giller prize, nominated for the Booker prize. Her sneering comment: “a Canadian novel about India , I hate it,”.
    Her blatant ignorance of my country and the immigrants that make it strong and interesting and have an important voice in Canadian literature really annoyed me in 1996 and she still annoys me.
    Dear Germaine, do you think we should only write stories about lumberjacks and hockey players? Why don’t you go back to Australia and shut up unless you want to talk about wombats and koalas.

  • @YT4Me57
    @YT4Me57 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All those suicides, dead children and vindictive father-in-law...Mary Shelly's life was the "embodiment" of one great monstrosity!

  • @tigerUnlimited
    @tigerUnlimited 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think her critic only pretended but really couldn’t understand her enormously expanded historical perspective from her no empathic fathers mind that she was healing the engram of in this book.
    That’s from 17!years of psychotherapy by other graduate student interns while I studied relativity and quantum optics for a PhD.

  • @4supernatural
    @4supernatural 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely awesome, I learn so much. You never fail to fascinate me with knowledge of the past. Blessings ✨👍🏻🤩💕✨

  • @madiantin
    @madiantin ปีที่แล้ว

    Woah that critic didn't hold back.
    Here's my take on the whole thing:
    That critic is a dick.
    Frankenstein is a dick.
    Frankenstein's monster is a dick.
    Percy Shelly was a dick.
    A pox on the lot of them.
    Mary Shelley, however, was a freaking literary genius. She had intense pain and tragedy in her life and it's a testament to how strong and resilient she was that she lived through it all. The fact that she sacrificed her own comfort and happiness to return to England and all the crap she had to deal with there, manipulated by her Father-in-Law....who is also a massive dick...has my deep admiration. What a woman! I wish her life could have been easier.

  • @arrasonline
    @arrasonline 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your channel and I love Frankenstein...I have taught it for 25 years. I am always amazed that Mary's mother is an early feminist in her writings and she sticks with non-fiction. Mary on the other hand uses fiction to depict women as victims...every female in Frankenstein displays some of the true horrors that women faced in the 19th century. Death by disease (after caring for diseased children), death as victim of unfair judicial system (women have no voice, no property, no right to attorney?), arranged marriage (Safe is given to Felix in exchange for services), the aborted female creature because dad does not want her, and finally death as victim of murder after a conflict between two men. Every female character meets with a tragic end in this novel. I do wonder to what extent Mary felt incompatible with her times given her education and status in society. Anyway, thank you so much for the synopsis of her life...I will use it next year when I teach the novel again. Cheers.

  • @dhoward8816
    @dhoward8816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How is Mary's handwriting in your book? Was it easy to read what she wrote?

  • @jimcoyle4453
    @jimcoyle4453 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your inclusion of the provocative quote by Greer, as it points to the subversive, amoral sensibility of the feminine creator of the novel. This is interesting food for thought. I am a man and Mary Shelley's novel Frankenstein is my favorite novel. As such my discussion in this topic should be viewed through that lens, perhaps.🎉. I always read this novel as a great epic tale of curiosity, science, creation, and defiance of society's norms. And that's why it broke new ground. However, given that Mary Shelley experienced repeated loss through her mother's early death and the death of her small children, these tragedies had to have been contributing factors with regard to the development of her writing and story telling. Having said that, I would say that Frankenstein's creation was a being that M Shelley must have identified with as his portrayal is largely sympathetic. Likewise, the lesson learned, if not learned by his creator at the end of his life, is one of hubris in the face of defying natures laws. This is what I see. There's a price to be paid for man's tampering with nature's ways. But this is at the heart of the godlike quality of V Frankenstein and in a sense M Shelley, in that humans have the creative impulse no matter what. This can be our downfall in spite of all our better impulses.

  • @DeidreL9
    @DeidreL9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gosh I loved this. I’ve always been astonished that a young woman wrote Frankenstein. Germaine is, I’m sorry, a sexual politics obsessed harridan. I cannot deal with her, she doesn’t believe in so many things l hold dear. Thank you so much Dr Kat, you are wonderful, and this is brilliant.

  • @ashleystearns2486
    @ashleystearns2486 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the passage by Greer is a bit self-regarding. The best writing sets the narrator far in the background to avoid appearing pedantic, maudlin, or sophomoric - something Greer seems unaware of in her quest to dig to the alleged deepest depth of Shelley’s psyche. The passage says more about her than it does Mary Shelley.

  • @Shane-Flanagan
    @Shane-Flanagan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great choice of topic for a video Dr Kat! Thanks so much! 💕👍
    A fan of horror or not, we've all heard of Frankenstein but not so much of his creator Mary Shelley who seems to have been a remarkable lady.
    It might surprise some that the infamous monster was created by a woman.
    Interesting too to think that Frankenstein, a horror story has hidden themes of loneliness and abandonment.

  • @michaellewis6510
    @michaellewis6510 ปีที่แล้ว

    A wonderful insight into the creation of Frankenstein. So important that something amazing comes out of so much tragedy. So well crafted. Thank you

  • @josephcamp8602
    @josephcamp8602 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first two chapters seemed very feminine to me. Also, I enjoyed reading it. It’s a great work. She left something for us all that she can remembered by. I salute Shelly.

  • @dulaniwijesooriya1430
    @dulaniwijesooriya1430 ปีที่แล้ว

    Of course I found this video worthy. We will be studying Frankestine very soon at the university. And this was indeed a good Preamble

  • @suellensheppard9734
    @suellensheppard9734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She is a distant relative

  • @dawnmuse6481
    @dawnmuse6481 ปีที่แล้ว

    I read Frankenstein in curiosity after seeing the TV movie version which starred Jane Seymore. As a teenager, I found it quite comprehensible so whoever this person quoted at the end was, they are full of their own wind!

  • @goltandburlach
    @goltandburlach 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I read Frankies bairn as my best mate called it in hospital after doing something stupid in the military. It is certainly a book of its time and has been inspiration for many other works, by which comparison it may suffer. Critics generally don't write themselves (why then can they be critical of others ,baffled) nor do we have any idea of the impact of this story being the first of its kind.
    I read some of Walter Scott too and Victor Hugo, the language of the time is different and the understanding of the reader profoundly challenged by the times they lived in or live in now

  • @kirstena4001
    @kirstena4001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm rewatching this video, because it motivated me to read Frankenstein. it is really informing my understanding.

  • @bieuxyongson
    @bieuxyongson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This has been such an interesting video. I never realized how sad her life had started, with losing her mother so soon after her birth. I knew that she had lost her own children and of course Percy at a very young age. BTW, that book is amazing. I loved this video, Thanks so much.

  • @barbaramccann7439
    @barbaramccann7439 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos I do have some problems with. Understanding cause I'm American and some of these in British history are not taught in our schools but that is not your faught I still love and enjoy them

  • @jdaywork2693
    @jdaywork2693 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At chance of talking about Dracula and/or King Arthur? Thanks for this video!

  • @idlikemoreprivacy9716
    @idlikemoreprivacy9716 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos, both the research and the narration!
    Strongly disagree with the last quote, absolutely inconsistent with each and every detail of the story!

  • @martinamendezfernandez
    @martinamendezfernandez 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my favourite youtubers and one of my favourite books. This video was instaclick for me.

  • @sabrinadimonte5922
    @sabrinadimonte5922 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the connections between Frankenstein and the groundbreaking scientific experiments which were talking place at the time?

  • @margo3367
    @margo3367 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was listening to several of your Tudor videos and then I jumped to this. What I was struck with is how women’s lives and opportunities have changed over time; however much time it takes and resistance we meet we still keep making strides.

  • @sanveraarevnas7208
    @sanveraarevnas7208 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Frankenstein is a knock off of the religious kemetic story of osiris and isis. There is absolutely nothing new or original under earths sun including this story, whose distortions and poor editing has made the poetically described practical metaphysical explanations of isis bringing osiris back together into a moralistic one of the creation of a "monster" with Frankenstein. Literally no story since ancient religious texts are new or original all distortions of practical manuals for humans to follow in order to avoid repeating being stuck in this density/world aka 3D.

  • @alisonjane7068
    @alisonjane7068 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i'm by no means a scholar, but i really enjoyed frankenstein. i actually liked it a lot more than i thought i would. found it very moving.

  • @colormeinfluenced6997
    @colormeinfluenced6997 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had to do a double take on the Percy Shelley portrait at 7:00. It looked like he was using his willy as a bookmark! I’m still not sure that it isn’t. No more youtubing without my specs on!

  • @BigDog366
    @BigDog366 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would imagine opium had a greater influence on her writings than mentioned here. Possibly guilt? Imagine how she felt when she heard of Harriet's suicide. The pregnant wife of the man she was living with.

  • @reinotsurugi
    @reinotsurugi ปีที่แล้ว

    Frankenstein is the most beautifully written book I've ever read. I miss her poetic prose in her later writings.

  • @CubanMami4
    @CubanMami4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think this was one of the best stories I’ve read! TY for doing this video ! I just learned so much about the author

  • @didisinclair3605
    @didisinclair3605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never thought to read Frankenstein...thanks to you, it is on my list! Wonderful video. Many thanks.

  • @Amc933
    @Amc933 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow...heady stuff. Loved the background and thoughts that were shared...

  • @sharonkaczorowski8690
    @sharonkaczorowski8690 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve always found the book to have many layers and have learned through responses to my own poetry there can be layers unique to the reader’s experience and nit that of the writer.

  • @bettyhoffman1280
    @bettyhoffman1280 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I disagree with Greer, and I think a response to her needs to be quite plain spoken. The story is about a monster created from deceased bodies. In no way, shape, or form could I ever see this as a metaphor for a woman giving birth to a monster. Greer just seems as if she was trying to attract readers to her twisted interpretation. Sick.

  • @ImpartiallySpeaking
    @ImpartiallySpeaking ปีที่แล้ว

    When she needed her father most, just like Victor and the monster, her father distanced himself from Mary where no doubt feelings of abandonment would have set-in after she was sent off to Dundee on her own

  • @Yeahoover
    @Yeahoover 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello from someone who was born in Ingolstadt :-)

  • @beccaboobabe2
    @beccaboobabe2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Woah! What an amazing piece of work you were gifted!!

  • @TheNosarajr
    @TheNosarajr ปีที่แล้ว

    It seems beside the point that a creation, be it ship or book should suffer some harsh criticism due to the creators short commings be it cook or gardener.

  • @sherriefeight4207
    @sherriefeight4207 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    And she was as helpless as the Monster. Not having a choice in her life, not having a mother…

  • @nmritter
    @nmritter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Frankenstein is immortal. PERIOD