2 of these Heralds are secretly Immortal
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video from Jenkins' stream, we played a game: 2 Immortals have to pretend to be Herald in a game full of Heralds.
If the Immortal can hide successfully, they win $1000. If the Heralds catch them, they win $1000.
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#Dota2 #Herald #Immortal
Suggestion for this series: the immortal must win the game to claim the prize. There is 1 on each team, but the heralds only need to figure out who the immortal on the winning team is. That way, they have to play well enough to beat the other immortal while still being subtle about it
I like this idea. And to make it so both sides can win in one game, offer $500 to winning immortal and $500 to whoever can guess the immortal/
@@jakeheaps56 this makes no sense to hide the identity of being the immortal as there is no downsides for the winning immortal
@@klashlaker1905 nah, this idea probably the best way to make it more interesting to watch, and immortal player need to hold back their skill well enough to camouflage
@@socrates1796 See, according to this the price will be given to the winning immortal, not if he is able to hide his identity.
He can play like a real immortal and still win the prize as there is no penalty for revealing that he is an immortal.
That's my point
@@klashlaker1905 dont forget if u got spotted that u are immortal, u cant claim the prize
How to win the prize is win and not spotted that u are immortal, just win alone cant guarantee the prize
You know an interesting idea that just came to me. Have 5 pro players play together and one of them choose meepo and then share unit to everyone so that every player has to control 1 meepo each
ain't max meepo 4 units?
@@Aru_im no,
but that would require having meepo at least 25th level
what
@@Aru_im there has to be one support watching the back
Nyx was the epitome of herald skill/gameplay, sometimes he hits a sick play and but very inconsistent
An actual herald that is seen as the impostor should get an extra. And everyone should want to win, like getting a 30% extra as well. (Or losing 30% if you lose)
WK staying in 1 lane and pushing was definetly the tell
I actually guessed WK correctly huh. I guessed Hoodwink instead of Legion though, because I thought that it was improbable that both Immortals would roleplay being braindead with their builds, but here we are.
I thought it was Nyx until that LC wand survive in the river. that was too good for herald
His own instinct kicks in hahaha
@@choi-r7108 lol exactly. Having wand to begin with is a red flag I suppose.
And then, turning around after getting away because why? Obvious sandbag is obvious.
i knew it from the wk build cause that’s literally my favorite meme build to do when I queue with my herald friends. no one in herald knows how to deal with pushing let alone how to do it in the first place
That picture of BSJ and Monkeys was too much for me XD
You should probably add a reason for Heralds to sandbag. Like splitting the prize pool.
Or incentivize winning.
also there was one time wk cancelled an attack animation to deliberately miss a creep
0:25 look at the chat. 🤣🤣🤣
damn wk was truely committed
Looks like eazy Nyx/Weaver. 7:40
The ring should count, even wk vamp aura and lc's press the attack.
Why did he flame bulba at the very end?
Yeah rule no. 1 in herald is you don't push..
Rule no. 2 - you gotta manfight one on one..
Rule no. 3 - just go for the kills if it's cost your life
Among Us: The Dota 2 Way :D
I cant find the Obs inside Sentry trick, can someone send me the video.
someone plz tell me how he did theward inside sentry plz
Okay, typing before Jenkins reveals the immortals
I think, Zues and Nyx
Nyx is doing too good to be herald, like it's reallyhard to fake being bad.
Zues because of the smokes thing, like lmao I'm stopping them finishing quests :D
But we didn't see much of clock or rubick before then so I'm less confident in the radiant pick.
Liking these Immortals amogus series 👌
Jenkins new challenge... herald team gets 25k gold lead (5k per person) against immortal team.
5k gold lead is nothing. 5k gold lead per player is more like it, but even then i would still bet on the immos because of rubberbanding mechanics. a few feeds from the heralds and the immos will very quickly catch up
@@dm9910 yeah I meant 5k gold lead per player... thats a 1 good item for each at the start of gm... so 25k gold lead. As u said I'm not sure heralds would win... wonder how much gold lead herald team could win with
just give full slooted to all heralds. Still immortal team will win 100%
This a stupid idea
@@klashlaker1905 common no way 6 slotted min 1... just 5 man mid and u win. I don't believe it
@@klashlaker1905 I think full slotted heralds would win actually. What do you do when there's 150k networth of carries barreling down a lane from min 0? Level 1 heroes can't kill that
Herald games are fun unluke nerdy divine or immortal
damn that LC got us all real good
My man been changing the thumbnails n titles back and forth lately.
trying things here
Finally Heralds Win ,however that's a Mercy Win so far Immo 2-1 Herald
From minute 5:20 I think Rubik is Immortal.
If all heralds afk, they win! The immortal has to do objectives before game end so its gonna be obvious
then views will also be afk
o shit ur right
HOW IS IT NOT SHARING REGEN???
Very entertaining content.
This why I hate herald games. T3 too tower is down. Enemy team has 3 deaths and my team is back on my side farming jg
That magic stick usage on legion and pushing tower, @bsj in every video, push lanes to win games. Not herald mentality!
WHERE'S JIMIN'S BULGE?!
fart studios hype !
naw, heralds love wk stun
jorpkens
3:04 caught in 4k Jenkins is gay
Can anyone teach me how to place wards just like nyx?
You need to place the first ward, then select that ward, then place the next ward by clicking on the placed wards portrait
@@RusselGosu ohh just like how you place the techies bombs on previous patch?
No
dr poop
WK = BSJ
You guys are getting paid?
Or want to coach me? I will do whatever you tell me I’m 10 mmr normally
The wraith king was fucking obvious, odd item choices
WK was too obvious. No herald is capable of winning by just pushing towers. There is a reason why heralds games last 180+ minutes. They hate pushing. And everybody knows BSJ loves pushing.
he also bought assault quirass to push better with his skeletons
that item build alone was so sus
no herald read and know how each item work on creep
Rat doto is the best. Finding teammates who agree is a challenge. 😅
@@gumarkuk yea there is no way herald will pick carry and buy aura items lol it was so obvious..
yeah, I 100% knew wk was bsj
It would be fun if you could gather 10 immortals and tell each one that the rest are heralds and they have to blend in.
Would be funny if they have no idea and all play like heralds😂
Edit: The condition to win the prize would be win without getting caught. So that they will all progressively play better.
And you don't tell ANYONE while they find reasons why they're heralds or immortals.
i would assume they should be able to realise what's going on... like i think after less than 10 minutes they would've figured it out from the laning?
Definitely hide one Herold on each team
Please this would be top tier content
And since a bunch of comments are asking; Sandbagging is purposefully playing down to the level of your lesser opponent(s) for the purposes of making the competition seem equal (i.e. purposefully not playing to your full potential)
Thank you
@@choi-r7108 because race horse owners used to literally put sandbags on their race horses to make them perform worse so they could get good betting odds later when the bags came off. ^^
You can always tell which one is BSJ by where he puts boots in his item slots - upper left always
next level analysis
thats where i always put my boots as well
@@rfhsrzh2064 me too
I’m super cosplay so they go bot mid
BSJ has a tell?
WK is too obvious, literally sandbagging building weird item yet have the best last hit. He probably sandbag that aswell but didnt expect its actually impossible for herald to last hit that well
I know he is bsj because he always just ignores heroes, he was trying to prove that point again
no wk actually was obvious because all he did was push enemy safelane and he actually bought correct items for that
thats a bsj play 100
I have no idea how to catch legion tho
only obvious to us tho, he did a really good job not being spotted by heralds
Item build wasn't even weird when you look at it as a whole. No Herald is buying drums AC, they're going to do something like rush deso.
the enchantress did one thing i NEVER see herald, nor guardian enchantresses do, enchant a creep.
one day he really needs to do the get 10 immortals idea
Reminds me of a time where a friend "mastering" The Werewolves only put villagers (some with abilities, like hunter etc.) but did not put any werewolves in the game. We were like 8 to play, took us 3-4 rounds to realize and probably because players killed couldn't stop laughing. Was a fun a game!
Even the ingame quests counts arcane ring as sharing regen (mana). so it should count imo.
It can't really count as sharing regen if it does not even give mana regen. It gives a 75 mana in 0 sec even if it took a second it does not effect your mana regen number so should not count.
It's more about the concious action of buying regen for the team, not just giving regen. By buying a support item, you out yourself, everybody can randomly find a neutral item and use it while they look for something they want more.
this is actually hard since herald doesnt even buy regen for themself, lol
Finally something where the heralds can win. Kappa
from this video we can learn that Herald doesn't mean a bad player, it's just a way of living
some are just really enjoy playing and trolling without thinking, and some are just bad at dota
@@iqueron8890 Yeah usually the two ranks just above the herald (I think they are guardian and crusader) are the least skilled players. You never know what's in herald.
@@ddenozor not everyone. Some are dumb that they lower their rank so that they could do the battle past quest faster and earn ranks to get the CM persona.
And Now stuck in the hell of crusader and guardians and can't move back up. 😂😂
I'm a dumbass
Wk was obvious, no herald would ever skip stun - you stun - you kill him - you win.
not everyone in the upper bracket skips stun. lvl1 stun is good for playmaking, cancelling tp and chasing.
@@damnhue5915 tell me youre legend without saying youre legend
@@piano3485 tell me you're a herald without saying you're a herald. Hahahah can't even produce a counter argument.
High rank players would even save skill points so they can level the appropriate skills depending on the situation.
@@damnhue5915 I can attest to that. I'm no WK player and only use him sparingly but I do know there are times when you let one skill point unused usually lvl.6 and save it for ult when you get caught and ganked and make an assessment if it's worth using the 3min cd lvl.1 ult and your team is nearby to countergank or you're alone and you just tank the gank and die not wasting ult cd for later.
I was the Ench! Thank you for letting me join!
Damn that Clock and weaver were so good
wk was too good that he literally couldnt get in mind of herald lol
The second i saw WK walking behind a tower without ult i knew it. First herald instinct is, " if i have no ult i'm not going in" 7:18.
There should be a game 5 immortals vs 5 herralds with a twist. Immortal players are not allowed to buy anything but normal boots and rapiers.
I could blend in with Heralds for $1000! ...because I am Herald (well, Guardian, but close enough)
2:49 lmao nice comment from nyx after tipping
You've got to do one where it's actually ten immortals but they think it's just them
And i thought it's just me with this idea
In this concept, why don't just give the price to the winner's team? So all ppl aim to win instead of doing ruining staff and immortals are forced to sandbag less. Ppl will definitely blame each other but the show...
Guests will literally try to win and hide their rank simultaneously and not just make fun stuff and hope others will not found out they're immortals
in all likelihood, most heralds signing up for this series are just people with a second herald account. not many new players in dota anymore, and with so many smurfs in herald games it tends to burn them out quick.
That blademail before duel at 8:30 and then dying on purpose for nimbus did it for me to be almost sure it was legion
Same and if not legion then weaver but no way was I ignoring how bad this legion was playing or how bad his build was 😂😂😂😂😂😂
WK was so obvious, but LC... "Oh, you shot me preety good" :D
How did no one pick WK? The dude went only tank items. He went VLADS ON WK. Do heralds even buy auras? He's holding a mango for when nyx burns his mana. Come on.
It's actually an aura split pushing build and no, heralds do not buy auras. The only ones I've seen do that is the dude who has the golems as his specials and people MAY buy it to buff them then 😂
Ench is not hot compared to others, like Templar.
wk was pretty obvious imo. the item build was designed to look stupid, but it's actually quite strategic. it's not the kind of build a herald would do, they like greed and comfort items (invis). building weird team items that help with pushing is exactly what a smart player would do if they wanted to carry the game without racking up too many kills themselves. in addition to the cunning item build, the single-minded focus on pushing towers is not herald gameplay at all, even if feeding occurs in the process.
i wasn't sure about legion. if it wasn't for the toxicity i actually would've picked out nyx, but i ended up being undecided between legion and rubick.
8:19 "iraq" 💀
I could smell BSJ from a mile away with the way WK was pushing. Heralds don't push lanes. Still hilarious to watch.
wk knew how to push, legion had too stereotypical of a bad build
Storm Spirit = Smelly Hat
Too true Jenkins, too true.
Arcane ring not regen? The whole chat is low prio Herald lol
Gonna bet clock is one. And hood is another
How about a secret immortal but all 10 people are immortals and don't know about it.
I can blend in, alright. My prob is i cant blend out even if i wanted to.
WK was so obvious. idk why he was not voted
This is actually a pretty cool concept and different from everything else - I liked it and hope to see more in the future
me and my friend are immortal (me unnumbered, him top 1000) and we tried boosting my main account (which is stuck in sub 1k MMR for years now to the point I abandoned it). One day we decided to bring it up to at least ancient but we just couldn't. The heralds were too strong. Even all the way to legend 5, it's still herald gameplay and we would lose 3x as many games as we won. Our longest winning streak was 9 games until matchmaking anti-boosting kicked in. This basically proved my theory that dota's matchmaking (at the time at least) enforced a >50% winrate. Overall, the span of 3 months, I gained about 300 MMR, bringing my 900+ MMR to 1200+ MMR. The highest we got it during the run was 2800+MMR.
You just can't win.
switch it around next time.
>1 herald for each team.
>each team knows who is the herald on their side.
>radiant team will have to guess which one from dire is the herald, and then vice versa.
>the winning te gets the chance to guess first.
>the heralds MUST HAVE AT LEAST ONE KILL.
wtf is sandbag
Wk was kinda obvious simply for his pushing. There should be a minimum game duration of something like 60min. It wouldnt seem out of the ordinary for herald to retreat even when they can end the game. U
in every single one of these bsj is just so obvious, i thought its WK right away. unelss wk was actually monkeys kek. when they pushed tower top bsj was hiding woods after it was 1on1 for no reason and no sane herald wouldnt run at the enemy there.
It's funny how Jenkins thinks that heralds are without hands or something.
Dude, I have decent mechanical skills/micro. I'm bad on conceptual level/macro^^
Your skills mean nothing when u have bad decision when to fight , when avoid fight, when escpae, when push, when exchange hits with enemy or when only LH, when pull, when stay with ally etc.. Also low rank players dont know when they hero is strong without luxury items. They think they can be strong only at least with 3-4 items and with lv11+ . And most important cooperate as team. This is the reason being in low rank pool.
@@konradkopiec4193, which falls under the conceptual category. Something that I already said I'm bad at?
Its interesting to psycho analyze the players. They are so willing to believe people who play easy heroes badly belong in herald. When really everyone's crappy attitude is what is mainly keeping them in herald. The polite quiet ones were immortal.
I knew it was Wraith King just based on hero choice. The hero is so easy thats it's impossible to tell if its a herald or an immortal playing so he's the perfect choice for someone who is pretending to be herald.
This is cool and all, but Jenkins840 is better and more handsome than 420jenkins. Unsubbed...
I knew it was wk... the BOBs with vlads and constant pushing and sacrifices for tower kills, it had to be BSJ
clarity,tango, mango, salve, void stone or ring of regen would be sharing regen. mek and arcane dont count rightfully so.
Wk was so obvious. Heralds NEVER buy drums of endurance. Lc was pretty obvious too
WK didnt get stun level 1 and that was so obvious. Herald always pick stun first any hero.. 🤣
i feel like the reason they didnt do these more often is that they didnt want to reuse bsj all the time and noone else was available since american dota scene is non existent and americans only talk with other americans
My advice for BSJ when smurfing against heralds remains the same: never go full re*ard. 🤣
Heralds could win so easily if they wanted to because of the rules lol
The clockwerk is an inmortal, that’s for sure, I haven’t finished the vide yet
dr poop
it's fun because everyone is pretending both to be AND not to be it.