16:03 terrible camille mechanics. Ive watched LCK players play camille, they use the ult to dodge cc, save e for when the enemy flash, weave around while q is active.
@Kate Kuray He may not be the best mid in NA, but he was the only one really trying to make game winning plays in the team and playing aggressive in team fights, he just needs a team to match that to look good most likely
Imagine if a LCS signs nemisis next year? I don't think FNC will keep him after this split. Could you imagine if a team like GG or DIG invest big money into midlaner with tons of experience internationally and against elite mids
Honestly everyones saying Johnsun needs a better team which is true but imo Dardoch deserves praise as well. He's carried so many of their wins in the regular season and honestly looked ok this series. I think irs pretty obvious that the real sandbagger is V1iper. He literally doesn't know how to make himself useful and it seems that his opponent is always a step ahead of him.
6:02 I had to rewind to listen to Flowers, but that is such a genius comment to make about the ‘doesn’t need Control + Alt’, as he also doesn’t need Ult. Flowers is such a punny caster, mad respecc
Treatz has got to be the worst morgana I've ever seen in pro play. I've never seen someone miss so many q's when the enemy isn't even trying to dodge (16:52 and 17:10 were beyond embarrassing) How many black shields is he going to miss? I don't think I've seen him block a slow ass ashe arrow with it once in his career.
he's actually talked about the ashe arrow thing before, you let the arrow land then black shield because it baits the enemy team in then you can just turn the fight if they try to continue to cc that champion hit; whether or not that method of thinking is right thats why he does it
Salt Factory yeah I saw that but sometimes he just misses black shields. Like if it’s just him and AD on sideline getting dove... you don’t want to wait
17:20 i cant believe this is the level of Na pro play. They got aced cause they didnt want to give up karmas life. Thats just insane, what a fucking fiesta.
@@WTFKerFlims actually every single role does more damage than adcs XDD I mean, I'm not an ADC main, but i've played some days ago some adc champs. So cancer and hard to deal damage while there is soo much damage in everyone else
@@TheManticora3 no thats dumb. Adcs do the most consisteny damage (mid to late game). They are just squishy so they need others to defend them. Lcs is trash watch the lck adcs.
Idk man I agree that Johnsun is good but I dont think Dardoch is bad. Look at his solo laners lol how are u supposed to play around that? I swear he looks like he's trying to be proactive but can't because of his solo lanes keep sandbagging
@@GourmetNinj4 V1per and Fenix are really bad for sure, but Dardoch could easily make better plays even with terrible solo laners. DIG's bot lane is actually pretty good and he could easily play around that.
@@abdullaalsuwaidi2407 To be frank dardoch has looked awful in multiple teams and has always left on a very sour note. NA should stop playing second fiddle to these divas who don't have the skill the match the ego.
@@abdullaalsuwaidi2407 Imo Zven was playing well on Tsm as well. He inted sometimes but overall he was solid. Tsm back then just was not as good as C9 is now so obviously he looked worse. Also if you consider that his supports were mithy (who now is a coach) and smoothie (Clg...) his junglers were Mike Yeung and Aakadian its not hard to figure out why he was not set up to succeed as much has he is now with Vulcan and Blabber...
@@rolfdenpinguin3009 if you watch the interview with Kobbe he says TSM are a very vocal team. You need to tell your team everything you're doing. C9 on the other hand use instincts to initiate. If you have skill you don't need to communicate. I mean theshy couldn't speak Chinese the year they won worlds lol
Honestly 8 team playoffs are so stupid, just have the top 4 have "2nd" chances and have a 6 team playoffs. make the top 4 vs each other in the first round then have the winners have a bye
Makes no sense, since they will most likely still face both C9/TL. The only way that they won't face C9 is if C9 loses to FLY and either 100/EG right after that...
WTF is this top lane for dig. Going in and insta dead lmao. At 14:07 he shoulda TP'ed a bit early and if he was about TP Ult already. Game 2 he's always dead lol.
@@TheWalkingTeemo30 I mean this is just how I play but if I was already 0/4 and keeps dying so fast team fights I would build some HP or tanky items. He still went for damage when he can't even last 5 seconds in team fights. That fight 14:08 was a good chance for them to turn around if Zoe and Renek were good.
I don't understand why people see bb and dl in the same page lol. The only mistake he did was dying 1v1 against ornn and the rest of the bo5 was above decent and did more than what he had to do. He and bjergsen was the only ones that staying in game at GG bo5 too...
I really don't understand why DIG didn't even put Lourlo in 1 time. Viper on Ornn? Seriously? Put fucking Lourlo in and watch him do 100X BETTER than Viper
Doublelift should stay on Adcs that have mobility; Ezreal, Lucian, Kai'sa, Xayah, Aphelios and stay the fuck off of Cait, Ashe, Senna. He had some really good games just q pew pew from the back where the adc should be. The GG set they(GG) straight ran clean into TSMs backline to kill Doublelift ez clap.
@@houeah big brain move from TL to pick GG. Now when TL inevitably wins, TSM will face GG and get 3-0'd again, which means no worlds for the third year in a row 🤣
@@xy769 1st and 2nd game vs GG were easy wins for tsm but they threw hard af. if they can fix their late game decision making and botlane play just a little less bad they should win. but sadly i dont expect anything anymore from tsm. bjergsen back is broke
@@houeah 2nd game was a gg throw with hauntzer inting his ass off but then GG did a smart backdoor. Nowhere TSM was ahead until that last minute. 1st game was even mostly. None of these shit was throws. Stop being a delusional tsm fan.
@@yootantonystark2738 how am i delusional when i said that i dont expect them to win rofl. we must have seen different matches btw because first game was 4-5 k lead to tsm at 22 min, second game was never more than 2-3 k for gg wich is nullified by ornn upgrades and 3rd game was litterally doublelift hard trolling+ shit draft from tsm. TSM botlane played like shit in all three games and IF they manage to go even vs fucking huhi and someone forces doublelift to buy a QSS if they are faceing something like morde brejgsen can carry easily. non of this matter anyway ince non of those teams will go to worlds even tho i hope gg makes it so damonte can go 0/6 once again versus competent midlaners
people who dont understand the lower bracket: tsm must have wanted to be in the lower bracket.... people who do: if they win they still have to play the "better" teams in the long run and if they win the lower bracket they still make it to the finals why would they want to throw and make things harder on themselves LMAO
They must want to have that 3 series momentum instead of just win 2 series and make worlds again. Seriously, as much as TSM fans like TSM, they don't even trust themselves to win against good teams.
TSM lost to GG tactically, bcs they want to avoid C9 and TL in early stages, there is still a chance to play in semifinal either with C9 or TL so. It was all planed. Give us GG now 💪🏻 TSM ❤️
Yeah no, even if they met TL/C9 and lost, they would have ended up in the lower bracket and it would basically be the same. Those are just lame excuses, nobody wants to lose, especially DL.
Bruh, Doublelift played like trash in that series. He literally tp'd bot without buying items. Another game he stood in dragon pit and instead of flashing out of the skirmish, he stays and moves foward until he's caught out and then dies while wasting flash and Caitlyn e. He was playing like a gold player, FBI did not have a huge factor in DL's bad performance.
@@passawayla1740 3-0 doesnt mean they didn't struggle to take those wins? if SKT beats dig 3-0 and TSM beats them 3-0 too does that mean they are equal? No. Winning 3 games without clear dominance shows a struggle. This game for a top team should be a walk in the park, which it wasn't.
Cool story? You don’t exist to him so disliking someone who’s done literally nothing to you and has had a pretty shitty life especially recently is wasted energy.
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Thanks for making the video extra long to not spoil the 3-0.
Jack Do But your comment did....
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@@ggspirit4359 never read coments first ;)
@@emanuelvalenciano2196 on your phone its very hard not to look with the new comment layout
This comment is the first thing I saw while the ad was playing lol
Guys, can we just talk about how the hell was DIG allowed to play in playoffs?
Wow they swept a 5-13 team
lol
YEAH TSM TSM. LUL
@@asspounderify its TSM TSM TSM you don't end it with 2 repeats XD
Wow they won the playoffs haha
5:57 F
How the hell?
oh what!
Im just staring at the skuttle crab half of the interview
LOL
Same here it's so god damn cute
16:03 terrible camille mechanics. Ive watched LCK players play camille, they use the ult to dodge cc, save e for when the enemy flash, weave around while q is active.
"LCK" got more mechanics.
Almost like the average korean player is better than the average american
@@connorlee1868 bb isn't american though
Nicholas Hoover playin in lcs tho. Same skill levels
Connor Lee Braindead mentality.
Get Johnsun a real team pls
They just gotta rebuild around him like CLG has to rebuild around POB
Aphro was good
@Kate Kuray He may not be the best mid in NA, but he was the only one really trying to make game winning plays in the team and playing aggressive in team fights, he just needs a team to match that to look good most likely
14:17 Rap God Captain Flowers
its cpt. Flowers lol, not Phreak
@@playtesterhq6872 thanks I'll change it!
can tsm still go to finals or just 3rd seed for worlds
They can make finals but have to beat 3 more teams to do so
They need to win 2 bo5s to get worlds and for finals they need to win the next 3 bo5s
properly no. unfortunately, my friend!!!
Na has only 2 seeds now
@@wilmerayerkrauln2055 tough road ahead.
Imagine if a LCS signs nemisis next year? I don't think FNC will keep him after this split. Could you imagine if a team like GG or DIG invest big money into midlaner with tons of experience internationally and against elite mids
Honestly everyones saying Johnsun needs a better team which is true but imo Dardoch deserves praise as well. He's carried so many of their wins in the regular season and honestly looked ok this series. I think irs pretty obvious that the real sandbagger is V1iper. He literally doesn't know how to make himself useful and it seems that his opponent is always a step ahead of him.
I miss Ovilee
6:02 I had to rewind to listen to Flowers, but that is such a genius comment to make about the ‘doesn’t need Control + Alt’, as he also doesn’t need Ult. Flowers is such a punny caster, mad respecc
That's Captain Flowers
I think he genuinely was just say “Alt” and not even trying to pun with Ult... he was just making a corny control alt delete joke lol
5:52 what ? Braum is gone
Yeah wtf
Syndra oo
Braum is *SIX* level down, do not stack MR, Syndra is full build AND land her skillshot of course he is dead.
Hello coconut
DIG is a “Playoffs Team”... please go back to 6 seeds riot
They eliminate the need for the Gauntlet this way so I think it more streamlined
@@MelniaShadow this is definitely better than gauntlet though.
TSM would've been eliminated already
Chris L not really lmao. Having a 5-13 team in playoff is a joke
Treatz has got to be the worst morgana I've ever seen in pro play. I've never seen someone miss so many q's when the enemy isn't even trying to dodge (16:52 and 17:10 were beyond embarrassing) How many black shields is he going to miss? I don't think I've seen him block a slow ass ashe arrow with it once in his career.
he's actually talked about the ashe arrow thing before, you let the arrow land then black shield because it baits the enemy team in then you can just turn the fight if they try to continue to cc that champion hit; whether or not that method of thinking is right thats why he does it
Salt Factory yeah I saw that but sometimes he just misses black shields. Like if it’s just him and AD on sideline getting dove... you don’t want to wait
True not the best...
17:20 i cant believe this is the level of Na pro play. They got aced cause they didnt want to give up karmas life. Thats just insane, what a fucking fiesta.
Oh that's how you get double lift to do damage, just make everyone else be a tank.
OMEGALUL. Let's be real here. Tanks in season 10 does more damage than ADCs XD
Tank ornn solo killed Camille
Shake Spear yea because the Camille played that like garbage. He didn't even use Hextech Ultimatum to dodge the cc.
@@WTFKerFlims actually every single role does more damage than adcs XDD I mean, I'm not an ADC main, but i've played some days ago some adc champs. So cancer and hard to deal damage while there is soo much damage in everyone else
@@TheManticora3 no thats dumb. Adcs do the most consisteny damage (mid to late game). They are just squishy so they need others to defend them.
Lcs is trash watch the lck adcs.
keep it to 6 teams make playoffs, we don't want to suffer watching Dignitas, a 5-13 team, in playoffs.
17:45 why can't I see TF choosing his cards to stun zoe?!?!?
he double pressed W so it was basically instant bcs he was already in autoattack range
Can we get Johnsun a real team? Or at least rebuild DIG around him? I like Dardoch and Aphromoo, but they both are terrible to be honest.
Idk man I agree that Johnsun is good but I dont think Dardoch is bad. Look at his solo laners lol how are u supposed to play around that? I swear he looks like he's trying to be proactive but can't because of his solo lanes keep sandbagging
@@GourmetNinj4 V1per and Fenix are really bad for sure, but Dardoch could easily make better plays even with terrible solo laners. DIG's bot lane is actually pretty good and he could easily play around that.
Johnsun deserves better :(
Thats why they kicked out dardoch😂
But player have potential in other teams look at zven when he was in tsm he didn’t play like he is now in c9 he is so good and fits that team
@@abdullaalsuwaidi2407 To be frank dardoch has looked awful in multiple teams and has always left on a very sour note. NA should stop playing second fiddle to these divas who don't have the skill the match the ego.
No lol that’s not a good comparison. This was just Johnson vs TSM
@@abdullaalsuwaidi2407 Imo Zven was playing well on Tsm as well. He inted sometimes but overall he was solid. Tsm back then just was not as good as C9 is now so obviously he looked worse. Also if you consider that his supports were mithy (who now is a coach) and smoothie (Clg...) his junglers were Mike Yeung and Aakadian its not hard to figure out why he was not set up to succeed as much has he is now with Vulcan and Blabber...
@@rolfdenpinguin3009 if you watch the interview with Kobbe he says TSM are a very vocal team. You need to tell your team everything you're doing. C9 on the other hand use instincts to initiate. If you have skill you don't need to communicate. I mean theshy couldn't speak Chinese the year they won worlds lol
Honestly 8 team playoffs are so stupid, just have the top 4 have "2nd" chances and have a 6 team playoffs. make the top 4 vs each other in the first round then have the winners have a bye
plot twist : TSM try to give away an upper bracket for GG to stay away from C9 or TL...they will have an easy route on the lower bracket LOL
If you only see bjergs face when dl throws the game hahahahaha
Except that if they won the first series, even if they lost to c9/TL they'd end up in the same place
@@peterboylan8560 yeah it makes sense anyways u a Filipino?
Funny plot twist.
Makes no sense, since they will most likely still face both C9/TL. The only way that they won't face C9 is if C9 loses to FLY and either 100/EG right after that...
Is TSM strat actually to int Broken blade and Spica before the playoffs so that they can deal psychological dmg to the play offs? Hmm
WTF is this top lane for dig. Going in and insta dead lmao. At 14:07 he shoulda TP'ed a bit early and if he was about TP Ult already. Game 2 he's always dead lol.
He is a used to be a Riven otp I think that explains it all
@@TheWalkingTeemo30 I mean this is just how I play but if I was already 0/4 and keeps dying so fast team fights I would build some HP or tanky items. He still went for damage when he can't even last 5 seconds in team fights. That fight 14:08 was a good chance for them to turn around if Zoe and Renek were good.
Are they qualified to worlds?
No, they need to win the next two matches to qualify
Bjergsen actualy is not happy.
Didn't understand a single shit at the interview part, the whole time I'm just staring at the shuttle crab and the duck.
They can’t win if either bb or dl perform like this..spica cant cover top and bottom..but if bjersn pop off its a differnt story
That's kind of what TSM always relied on, Bjerg popping off, the others following in line.
I don't understand why people see bb and dl in the same page lol. The only mistake he did was dying 1v1 against ornn and the rest of the bo5 was above decent and did more than what he had to do. He and bjergsen was the only ones that staying in game at GG bo5 too...
@@sanerk he got smashed by GG botlane wdym?
@@emsa7esm203 did you really understood who I was talking about when I said "he died 1v1 to ornn"
@@sanerk o wops I mis-read ornn with mordekaiser XD.
Wow, a very early 5-game series!
Play the silver scrapes!
No Dignity are just so bad, free barons, no macro and that fight in the 3rd game after takin the soul point was just straight iron
Guy lets me ask 1 question is biofrost still in tsm or not ?
hes in academy roster
@@bolornn4149 will he play at playoffs?
Emman Serv i doubt it since tsm just did well with Treatz
Of course this is a must
Whats with the bracket. Why would c9 and TL meet before the finals. They should only meet in the finals
They’ll meet in the winners finals for a free game in the grand finals, it gives a reason for winning early
TSM big brained the brackets kekw
@@irhuuu1425 think so? If they didnt throw first game the bracket would look more traditional
The loser can fight in the lower bracket for a chance of rematch. Similar to TI8 OG vs TL
it is like the same with dota 2 ti if your still confused watch this new playoff format th-cam.com/video/zkQkIq2MiVk/w-d-xo.html
TSM will win it all this year, Lets go Baby
I really don't understand why DIG didn't even put Lourlo in 1 time. Viper on Ornn? Seriously? Put fucking Lourlo in and watch him do 100X BETTER than Viper
14:09 rap God
Those Renekton skills are hillarious. Viper always ulted 5 sec before he flanked because he knew he would insta die anyway. :)
so if tsm lose another match they're out?
Yea its lower bracket after all.
They're guaranteed to drop out because TL will win vs GG, and then GG will face TSM again. We all know how that went.
Platinum Jungler in LCS2020 > SPICA xddddddddddddddd
There's only two games? Was this a BO3?
Game happened too fast you couldn’t catch all 3?
are u on drugs or something
what's wrong with you?
whatever you are on, i want some of it bro
Can't dignitas find someone from solo queue? Jesus viper is terrible
They got Viper from Solo Queue because he’s actually really highly ranked there. He’s good at league but no in lcs for whatever reason
@@RatWizaard maybe he can't handle the pressure?
Spica looks so terrible when they’re winning...
Tactically gets 3-0d
Doublelift should stay on Adcs that have mobility; Ezreal, Lucian, Kai'sa, Xayah, Aphelios and stay the fuck off of Cait, Ashe, Senna. He had some really good games just q pew pew from the back where the adc should be. The GG set they(GG) straight ran clean into TSMs backline to kill Doublelift ez clap.
Game 3 dig had a chance. Poor aphro
Seriously can tsm hire me as their coach? What the fuck are these drafts
Legit no one
Dom: SpIcA WorSt jUnGlEr NoRtH AmErICA
And he’s wrong? Xd
Is this losers bracket? TSM lost to GG right?
Yes they are gonna face the loser from gg vs tl next time
@@houeah big brain move from TL to pick GG. Now when TL inevitably wins, TSM will face GG and get 3-0'd again, which means no worlds for the third year in a row 🤣
@@xy769 1st and 2nd game vs GG were easy wins for tsm but they threw hard af. if they can fix their late game decision making and botlane play just a little less bad they should win. but sadly i dont expect anything anymore from tsm. bjergsen back is broke
@@houeah 2nd game was a gg throw with hauntzer inting his ass off but then GG did a smart backdoor. Nowhere TSM was ahead until that last minute.
1st game was even mostly.
None of these shit was throws. Stop being a delusional tsm fan.
@@yootantonystark2738 how am i delusional when i said that i dont expect them to win rofl. we must have seen different matches btw because first game was 4-5 k lead to tsm at 22 min, second game was never more than 2-3 k for gg wich is nullified by ornn upgrades and 3rd game was litterally doublelift hard trolling+ shit draft from tsm.
TSM botlane played like shit in all three games and IF they manage to go even vs fucking huhi and someone forces doublelift to buy a QSS if they are faceing something like morde brejgsen can carry easily. non of this matter anyway ince non of those teams will go to worlds even tho i hope gg makes it so damonte can go 0/6 once again versus competent midlaners
Aphromoo needs to get kicked, all 3 games he literally had the least kpa, and more deaths than kpa overall.... yikes.
V1per is just as bad
Whole team is big yikes, at the very least fenix pulled his weight. Free Johnson or give him some help.
V1per? More like D1aper!
He's like a diaper. Throw in the garbage right after you use him.
That was a good ran for dig tho this year, its just that tsm is on a another league from them
You wouldn’t say that if it was the TSM of a couple of days ago lol
That’s not saying a lot since tsm kinda lost to ggs. And ggs is not even that good in NA. Which isn’t anything to be proud of haha
Yet every game was close... talk about delusional
Johnsun needs a team lmao
Have you seen my comment on tsm vs ggs? I gave my critics on bad plays made by tsm. You think im saying this because im tsm fan? Well jokes on you
pick senna a big mistake
people who dont understand the lower bracket: tsm must have wanted to be in the lower bracket....
people who do: if they win they still have to play the "better" teams in the long run and if they win the lower bracket they still make it to the finals
why would they want to throw and make things harder on themselves LMAO
Yea i feel u cause i think they might have a bad time against c9 or tl, but who knows
They must want to have that 3 series momentum instead of just win 2 series and make worlds again.
Seriously, as much as TSM fans like TSM, they don't even trust themselves to win against good teams.
it's the probably same clowns who concluded that (during Worlds group stage), SKT threw the game vs FNC just so they can knock RNG out.
X Y I mean to be fair that one at least could have made sense if it wasn’t skt with faker
Bjergsen real MVP
goodjob tsm and wp also to dig esp johnsun 😍😍🥺
Better today
TSM lost to GG tactically, bcs they want to avoid C9 and TL in early stages, there is still a chance to play in semifinal either with C9 or TL so. It was all planed. Give us GG now 💪🏻
TSM ❤️
Yeah no, even if they met TL/C9 and lost, they would have ended up in the lower bracket and it would basically be the same. Those are just lame excuses, nobody wants to lose, especially DL.
@@bruhhhnah7138 Maybe who knew, I can half agree with you 👍🏻
@@hristijanmanev507 there is a thin line between being delusional and something worse. Change before you get there.
@@yootantonystark2738 hahahaha what are u even trying to say?
Dardoch solo inted
I really do not like this format
morale boost for tsm
hardly
When TSM lost to GG, why people only say Doublelift is trash, not say because FBI playing good. Today we see Doublelift still is Doublelift
they're literally playing against DIG, one of the worst teams.
Bruh, Doublelift played like trash in that series. He literally tp'd bot without buying items. Another game he stood in dragon pit and instead of flashing out of the skirmish, he stays and moves foward until he's caught out and then dies while wasting flash and Caitlyn e. He was playing like a gold player, FBI did not have a huge factor in DL's bad performance.
jungle diff
When one of the teams that are supposed to be top 3 struggle vs a top 8 team.
Where was the struggle?
3-0 where's the struggle?
@@passawayla1740 3-0 doesnt mean they didn't struggle to take those wins? if SKT beats dig 3-0 and TSM beats them 3-0 too does that mean they are equal? No. Winning 3 games without clear dominance shows a struggle. This game for a top team should be a walk in the park, which it wasn't.
Nope
@@passawayla1740 Yes
p
DARDOG KEKW
Dignitas is such a bad team
freeesm freeeesm freeeeesm nice job
Wow dignitas wins
Aphromoo oof moment
First lol
Yikes
I dont like doublelift. He might be the greatest adc na has seen, or not, i don't care. I don't like him as a human being.
Ok?
Cool story? You don’t exist to him so disliking someone who’s done literally nothing to you and has had a pretty shitty life especially recently is wasted energy.
@@mochabearry everybody have a shitty life recently. I don't like the guy, thats it, wanted to say it, so i did. :)
Keep your negativity outta here man🗑️
@@estebancastaneda8908 thats the same man who lost his mother but still won an lcs title